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How is Babar Azam the solution to Pakistan’s middle order spin issue in T20?

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The main issue in the middle overs is intent. Pakistan often slows down too much against spin, and Babar’s natural game is about control and timing, not forcing the pace. When he is in the middle overs, the run rate can drop, which puts pressure on the batters around him.

Against quality spin in T20s, Babar tends to play safely. He rotates strike, but he doesn’t consistently dominate spinners or clear the boundary. His struggles against spin are well documented and in modern T20 cricket, middle-order players are expected to attack spin, not just survive it.

Pakistan still needs someone who can take risks against spin. Babar’s presence actually delays that aggression because the team ends up protecting his wicket instead of pushing the game forward.
 
Imagine a young player was batting like Babar. What would happen to him?

He would get sent home.

There is no reason for a player to come in and always play the same way regardless of the match situation. The #4 position can't have a batsman that's a liability like this in T20 cricket.
 
Where the hell is Hasan Nawaz, such a good find for Pakistani standards. Can at least hit a few sixes against spin.
 
Where the hell is Mohammed Rizwan, such a good find for Pakistani standards. Can at least hit a few singles and fours against spin on his day.
 
Deewana Mastana said:
The main issue in the middle overs is intent. Pakistan often slows down too much against spin, and Babar’s natural game is about control and timing, not forcing the pace. When he is in the middle overs, the run rate can drop, which puts pressure on the batters around him.

Against quality spin in T20s, Babar tends to play safely. He rotates strike, but he doesn’t consistently dominate spinners or clear the boundary. His struggles against spin are well documented and in modern T20 cricket, middle-order players are expected to attack spin, not just survive it.

Pakistan still needs someone who can take risks against spin. Babar’s presence actually delays that aggression because the team ends up protecting his wicket instead of pushing the game forward.
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Deewana Mastana said:
The main issue in the middle overs is intent. Pakistan often slows down too much against spin, and Babar’s natural game is about control and timing, not forcing the pace. When he is in the middle overs, the run rate can drop, which puts pressure on the batters around him.

Against quality spin in T20s, Babar tends to play safely. He rotates strike, but he doesn’t consistently dominate spinners or clear the boundary. His struggles against spin are well documented and in modern T20 cricket, middle-order players are expected to attack spin, not just survive it.

Pakistan still needs someone who can take risks against spin. Babar’s presence actually delays that aggression because the team ends up protecting his wicket instead of pushing the game forward.
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Babar is a nothing player. He cant force the issue and he is also not able to play ''long'' and take the game deep and finish it. He kind of got lucky opening the batting scoring useless 50s and letting the middle order with the burden of scoring 10 an over when he got out during the business end.
 
Babar is never the solution against spin... He himself is the issue when it comes to facing spinners...
 
Bench him man. He costed Pakistan Cricket in the last game. If it were not for Faheem Pakistan Cricket would've been done in this WT20.

Babar is not bigger than the country. Drop him!
 
Never write off anyone until the tournament is finished. Let’s discuss about Babar after the tournament.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
Never write off anyone until the tournament is finished. Let’s discuss about Babar after the tournament.
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you really think he'll be the top scorer for Pakistan by the end of tournament
I hope he doesn't top the record neeche se
 
Ricky Ponting said "If you're 15 off 18 balls, you're not just putting pressure on yourself, you're putting pressure on the guy at the other endzl, The guy at the other end then knows that he's got to be the one to take up the boundary scoring. Babar needs to hit boundaries early on"
 
RidiculousMan said:
Ricky Ponting said "If you're 15 off 18 balls, you're not just putting pressure on yourself, you're putting pressure on the guy at the other endzl, The guy at the other end then knows that he's got to be the one to take up the boundary scoring. Babar needs to hit boundaries early on"
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But but saar McGrath, Lee, Gillespie sarr????!!!


@Kianig89
 
I thought Babar turned a corner especially after pummeling of Aus in the 3rd T20 but it seems he is not comfortable at number 4. It's not fair that he had to give away not only his opening slot but also his number 3 to a mediocre tulla like Agha who averages 25 at a SR of 120 lol. Babar should either open or bat 3, tulla Agha is messing up the team balance. Watch him brick it in important games as usual. I detest Agha, worst captain to ever wear the green shirt.

Let's not be too quick to write Babar off just yet. My gut says he has a big innings in a big match at this WC something like the T20 WC 2021 vs India or the T20 WC semi 2022 vs NZ.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
I thought Babar turned a corner especially after pummeling of Aus in the 3rd T20 but it seems he is not comfortable at number 4. It's not fair that he had to give away not only his opening slot but also his number 3 to a mediocre tulla like Agha who averages 25 at a SR of 120 lol. Babar should either open or bat 3, tulla Agha is messing up the team balance. Watch him brick it in important games as usual. I detest Agha, worst captain to ever wear the green shirt.

Let's not be too quick to write Babar off just yet. My gut says he has a big innings in a big match at this WC something like the T20 WC 2021 vs India or the T20 WC semi 2022 vs NZ.
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I agree Babar shouldn’t be batting at number 4.

Babar’s ideal position right now should be in bed back in Lahore munching on Biryani.
 
The most media hyped player tonhave ever played the game. The only reason him and his chamchas play is they are involved with betting companies. Wont be surprised ifna spot.fixing allegation comes up against them eventually
 
ayemgilani86 said:
The most media hyped player tonhave ever played the game. The only reason him and his chamchas play is they are involved with betting companies. Wont be surprised ifna spot.fixing allegation comes up against them eventually
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Bruv from a fixer’s pov, this guy is too dumb and too incompetent to be relied on for these kinds of things. I doubt he is doing anything like that because that would just be a risk of serious financial loss even for a crook to bet on him.


What I would like though is a thorough investigation into his and Rizwan’s accounts/emails/whatsapps from 2020-2024. I think there has been a lot of national team selection, franchise favouritism picks that need to be explained.

The whole 2023 central contracts drama etc.

I suspect Pakistan cricket meritocracy has been seriously compromised
 
HAR CAPTAIN BABAR AZAM NAHI HOTA JO INDIA KO WORLD CUP MAIN HARA SAKY! PERIOD.
 
HOW IS SALMAN HAGGA THE SOLUTION TO PAKISTAN T20Is? THE GUY ISN'T FIT FOR T20s TO START WITH.
 
heddie19 said:
AND WHERE WOULD YOU SEND YOUR CAPTAIN AND THE TOP ORDER DUE TO WHICH BABAR IS NOT BEING PLAYED ON HIS NATURAL NUMBER?
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Its not about that, is it?

Babar cannot hit and that won change with position.

He is bad at hitting pacers and outright horrendous against spinners.

Needs to work with a coach.
 
The only solution he is now is for the opposition against Pakistan
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Its not about that, is it?

Babar cannot hit and that won change with position.

He is bad at hitting pacers and outright horrendous against spinners.

Needs to work with a coach.
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Yep agreed but he is a far better batter than Farhan, Saim and Salman and shouldn't be batting at a number not suited to him. He has won us countless matches from top 3.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Its not about that, is it?

Babar cannot hit and that won change with position.

He is bad at hitting pacers and outright horrendous against spinners.

Needs to work with a coach.
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Babar is 32 years old and has been playing for ten years. No one can teach him anything now, he is to set in his ways
 
Babar is the only captain in the history of Pakistan to beat India in a world cup match.
 
heddie19 said:
AND WHERE WOULD YOU SEND YOUR CAPTAIN AND THE TOP ORDER DUE TO WHICH BABAR IS NOT BEING PLAYED ON HIS NATURAL NUMBER?
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Yes cause at his natural position we need his 110 SR. He is like 33 years old and will only decline. Should never play for Pak again!
 
chinaman00 said:
This sort of cult worship of fake stars is why Pakistan cricket is dead. What has Babar achieved in contrast to the hype people like you generate?
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It is not cult worship. Babar is the only captain to win a WC match against India in the history of the game. What has the rest of the folks achieved? Ghanta?
 
Babar Azam - The only captain in the history of cricket to defeat India in a world cup match. Try to this history haters instead of getting personal.
 
It's apparent there are bigger problems in Pakistan cricket than Babar Azam , starting right from Chairman to T20 skipper.

They called for Rizwan to be axed it happened , whats the result we are still in gutter. So sanity must prevail
 
Kianig89 said:
It's apparent there are bigger problems in Pakistan cricket than Babar Azam , starting right from Chairman to T20 skipper.

They called for Rizwan to be axed it happened , whats the result we are still in gutter. So sanity must prevail
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Chup kar Choos li!

The biggest problem is this fraud who unsettles this team massively! Get out of here!
 
Rana said:
Chup kar Choos li!

The biggest problem is this fraud who unsettles this team massively! Get out of here!
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Oye bas kar. This classic tactic of yours to focus the blame on babar/rizwan to divert attention from the rest of the players is no longer going to work.

This is pretty much the squad you guys wanted (minus Babar) so what's been the outcome? Still the whipping boys of India

About time the likes of you are held accountable on this site. I now have a radar which detects posters who are behind the downfall of Pakistan cricket and you are dead at the centre of it .

I am going to be on your case now and monitor your every post.
 
Kianig89 said:
It's apparent there are bigger problems in Pakistan cricket than Babar Azam , starting right from Chairman to T20 skipper.

They called for Rizwan to be axed it happened , whats the result we are still in gutter. So sanity must prevail
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its not that bad 5 wins in a row before this match.... Make the batting stronger bat first and let your spinners defend.... Still a chance of making the final.
 
Raja Ishtiaq said:
Oye bas kar. This classic tactic of yours to focus the blame on babar/rizwan to divert attention from the rest of the players is no longer going to work.

This is pretty much the squad you guys wanted (minus Babar) so what's been the outcome? Still the whipping boys of India

About time the likes of you are held accountable on this site. I now have a radar which detects posters who are behind the downfall of Pakistan cricket and you are dead at the centre of it .

I am going to be on your case now and monitor your every post.
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LOL

BABAR
SSA
SHADAB

This lot needs to leave Pak cricket ASAP.
 
Raja Ishtiaq said:
Oye bas kar. This classic tactic of yours to focus the blame on babar/rizwan to divert attention from the rest of the players is no longer going to work.

This is pretty much the squad you guys wanted (minus Babar) so what's been the outcome? Still the whipping boys of India

About time the likes of you are held accountable on this site. I now have a radar which detects posters who are behind the downfall of Pakistan cricket and you are dead at the centre of it .

I am going to be on your case now and monitor your every post.
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You are on his case because a Pakistan side with Babar inevitably failed once more?

What’s this logic?
 
Kianig89 said:
It's apparent there are bigger problems in Pakistan cricket than Babar Azam , starting right from Chairman to T20 skipper.

They called for Rizwan to be axed it happened , whats the result we are still in gutter. So sanity must prevail
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Babar, SSA and Shadab are some of our biggest liabilities, if you cannot see it or want to divert attention away from your so called superstars, I can confidently conclude that you do not care about Pakistan cricket...
 
heddie19 said:
Babar Azam - The only captain in the history of cricket to defeat India in a world cup match. Try to this history haters instead of getting personal.
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Babe Azam has not played an innings of substance for a long long time now, if he has any dignity left, he should retire from T20s first, and then from ODIs and test matches as he cannot play any format now apparently... he is a big liability...
 
heddie19 said:
AND WHERE WOULD YOU SEND YOUR CAPTAIN AND THE TOP ORDER DUE TO WHICH BABAR IS NOT BEING PLAYED ON HIS NATURAL NUMBER?
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This is a lame excuse. Babar faced the new ball today and still had plenty of overs left ,this was a good platform for any match-winner to take the game deep and win it.
Kohli has a good record as an opener in T20Is, but that doesn’t mean he can only play as an opener. He has performed well in the middle order and at the death as well.
 
heddie19 said:
Babar Azam. The prince that was promised instead. But he will have to be ressurected. Wheres Mellisandre?
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Good one lol.

No seriously, I wonder what happened to him, he is just not there mentally. Also why making him bat at a position he is clearly not comfortable at? He was at his best as an opener in this format. Either play him where could be useful or don't play him at all.
 
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