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Team India has been brilliant in past two ICC ODI events, they managed to win one while lost the other to Aussies after remaining unbeaten through out the tournament. But like any team, they have Achilles Heels too. Indian team mostly manages to pressure the opposition through their batter's great rotation of strike technique. The guys like Virat Kohli, Shreyas Iyer, Axar Patel are masters of it. So if any team wish to beat India bad they really need to choke the runs for them through a Test style attacking field even after 1st Power play. Indian players barring Rohit Sharma are too poor in playing aerial shots and in the process of releasing pressure will end up throwing their wickets by playing skier and getting caught.

And in bowling they are even more vulnerable, if someone starts to attack their bowlers as dominos effect will come in place then. A thrashing in middle overs unlike death overs is more lethal to Indian team.
 
Thread should have about T20 as we have T20 world cup in next 7 month's

And thread titel should be like - How to Stop the india for winning 2026 World T20 .

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
Thread should have about T20 as we have T20 world cup in next 7 month's

And thread titel should be like - How to Stop the india for winning 2026 World T20 .

:kp
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India are well ahead in T20s at the moment but false pride and doctoring can cause their demise....any team can beat them on big day if they didn't forsake cheating
 
What likes of Devdal, Rajdeep, Bhaag Viru need to understand is that pitch doctoring whether Mirpur or Dehli only gets you so far. Likes of Rohit and Mushi gone they will struggle big time
 
India lost 2017 final, 2023 final and 2003 final because of the same reason....They nearly choked on CT 2025 final too when NZ applied pressure but Rohit Sharma's early dash made the chase easy for them.
 
Stop giving them home pitches that are rigged beyond belief.

However to india's credit they are the best t20 team in the world.

A very fradulent odi team that'll get exposed in 2027
 
I wish your Indian brothers happiness. Don't want them exposed. Win and lose is part of the game but exposed Indians is something no human wants to see.
 
The last time Pakistan won an ODI game against India was in 2017. So if this was so easy as highlighted by OP, why couldn't they do it?

:yawn
 
Rajdeep said:
The last time Pakistan won an ODI game against India was in 2017. So if this was so easy as highlighted by OP, why couldn't they do it?

:yawn
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Same format forces Pakistani poster's to changed the team support and becomes the wannabe supporter after 2023 Asia Cup and World Cup 2023 humiliation defeat against India.

:kp
 
mominsaigol said:
Stop giving them home pitches that are rigged beyond belief.

However to india's credit they are the best t20 team in the world.

A very fradulent odi team that'll get exposed in 2027
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The blame is entirely on the hosts. They should be taken to task.
 
I don't understand why op went nuts about advantages of pitch, travel, rest period, flight cost, air pollution etc for india during ct25.
 
by rigging tosses
India always lose tosses
So yea that’s the perfect way

India t20 and odi team is too good

Test is developing
New team. Transition phase but potential is there.
 
India won 2 events back to back... There is nothing much to expose here... they are pretty good in white ball, especially.
 
BouncerGuy said:
India won 2 events back to back... There is nothing much to expose here... they are pretty good in white ball, especially.
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They won t20 fairly. CT was rigged. They are not as good as 2023 rigging and 2025 rigging entailed this to be.

Sadly they will win 2026 because of rigging but they will lose 2027 wc. SA pitches wont save this rubbish lot.

No bumrah to bail out. No kohli who is their ace, no rohit who deapite being out of form is extremely dangerous nonetheless.

Likely an ageing Pandya.
 
mominsaigol said:
They won t20 fairly. CT was rigged. They are not as good as 2023 rigging and 2025 rigging entailed this to be.

Sadly they will win 2026 because of rigging but they will lose 2027 wc. SA pitches wont save this rubbish lot.

No bumrah to bail out. No kohli who is their ace, no rohit who deapite being out of form is extremely dangerous nonetheless.

Likely an ageing Pandya.
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What rigging India do in CT?
 
BouncerGuy said:
India won 2 events back to back... There is nothing much to expose here... they are pretty good in white ball, especially.
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3 recent ICC events laid out on silver platter and they won 2. Sure we can congratulate them but as objective and neutral analysts we must also acknowledge the factors behind the two wins.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
3 recent ICC events laid out on silver platter and they won 2. Sure we can congratulate them but as objective and neutral analysts we must also acknowledge the factors behind the two wins.
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What were those factors?

I know 2023 WC one where special swinging balls were given to Indian side but we didnt win it eventually.

What were the factors for WT20 2024 and CT 2025 wins? Sorry been long I have watched Har Lamha Purjosh

:kp
 
Rajdeep said:
What rigging India do in CT?
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jeeteshssaxena said:
We won fair and square.
There was no team on par with us.
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Vikram1989 said:
We have beaten the second best team twice especially chasing in finals. We have lost tosses in all the important matches and batted in far tougher conditions.
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Yes the only team playing on one pitch, of which they tailored their conditions by picking 4 specialist spinners in the squad and never had to travel back and forth getting use to conditons and getting the same advantages that a home side typically acquires in a a home test series except this time they get it for an icc event 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡.

No advantage at all.

This is why the biased 🤡 gang should never be taken seriously.

Now will state that in 2023 india was the most travelled team.

Apprantly being the most travelled home team at your own home curating every single pitch to your liking per event with the biggest complaint being that they didnt rig the pitch properly for the final is equivalent to being unfair :misbah .


Never seen bigger liars in my life.
 
mominsaigol said:
Yes the only team playing on one pitch, of which they tailored their conditions by picking 4 specialist spinners in the squad and never had to travel back and forth getting use to conditons and getting the same advantages that a home side typically acquires in a a home test series except this time they get it for an icc event 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡.

No advantage at all.

This is why the biased 🤡 gang should never be taken seriously.

Now will state that in 2023 india was the most travelled team.

Apprantly being the most travelled home team at your own home curating every single pitch to your liking per event with the biggest complaint being that they didnt rig the pitch properly for the final is equivalent to being unfair :misbah .


Never seen bigger liars in my life.
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The arrangement for the Champions Trophy was always meant to have India play at a single venue due to security concerns. The only question was whether that venue would be in Dubai or Pakistan. The PCB wanted India to play all their matches in Lahore. So, even if India had agreed to the PCB’s demands, all their matches would still have been in one venue.

In the 2023 World Cup, India was indeed the most traveled team—and yet they topped the chart. Pakistan, on the other hand, was restricted to a few venues for similar security concerns and still languished at the bottom. This only proves one thing: losers complain, whereas good teams adapt.

When a team travels, they not only have to adjust to pitch conditions but also deal with jet lag and travel fatigue. Traveling from one city to another in India is more exhausting than moving between Lahore and Dubai.

Oh and I forgot bunch of smileys - 🤡 :misbah

:kp
 
Why this is being discussed now? ICC events and rigging?
Don't you think its time we look at Umpire Baises, Toss-rigging (I suspect the coin used against Indian Matches), Ball-rigging (Different balls being supplied to English & Indian Bowlers) in the ongoing Test Series?
We become crybabies if we do this! But our neighbors still can't get away with Indian Wins which Indians themselves have forgotten (we are at the moment anxious about the ongoing test series and want to win it against all odds, challenges & disadvantages!)
 
Rajdeep said:
The arrangement for the Champions Trophy was always meant to have India play at a single venue due to security concerns. The only question was whether that venue would be in Dubai or Pakistan. The PCB wanted India to play all their matches in Lahore. So, even if India had agreed to the PCB’s demands, all their matches would still have been in one venue.

In the 2023 World Cup, India was indeed the most traveled team—and yet they topped the chart. Pakistan, on the other hand, was restricted to a few venues for similar security concerns and still languished at the bottom. This only proves one thing: losers complain, whereas good teams adapt.

When a team travels, they not only have to adjust to pitch conditions but also deal with jet lag and travel fatigue. Traveling from one city to another in India is more exhausting than moving between Lahore and Dubai.

Oh and I forgot bunch of smileys - 🤡 :misbah

:kp
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1000024004.png Rajdeep when he realises he's British
 
Rajdeep said:
What were those factors?

I know 2023 WC one where special swinging balls were given to Indian side but we didnt win it eventually.

What were the factors for WT20 2024 and CT 2025 wins? Sorry been long I have watched Har Lamha Purjosh

:kp
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There were very clear advantages acknowledged by the global cricketing fraternity at the time brother. You won't accept it anyway what's the point in me taking the time to detail it to you?
 
Rajdeep said:
What were those factors?

I know 2023 WC one where special swinging balls were given to Indian side but we didnt win it eventually.

What were the factors for WT20 2024 and CT 2025 wins? Sorry been long I have watched Har Lamha Purjosh

:kp
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India played all their CT 2025 games in Dubai. That was a clear advantage because they didn't have to move at all.

Other teams had to travel to Pakistan and UAE back and forth. NZ traveled from Pakistan to UAE to Pakistan to UAE, for example.

As far as I am concerned, NZ were the real winner of CT 2025.
 
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sweep_shot said:
India played all their CT 2025 games in Dubai. That was a clear advantage because they didn't have to move at all.

Other teams had to travel to Pakistan and UAE back and forth. NZ traveled from Pakistan to UAE to Pakistan to UAE, for example.

As far as I am concerned, NZ were the real winner of CT 2025.
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Read post #27

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mominsaigol said:
Yes the only team playing on one pitch, of which they tailored their conditions by picking 4 specialist spinners in the squad and never had to travel back and forth getting use to conditons and getting the same advantages that a home side typically acquires in a a home test series except this time they get it for an icc event 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡.

No advantage at all.

This is why the biased 🤡 gang should never be taken seriously.

Now will state that in 2023 india was the most travelled team.

Apprantly being the most travelled home team at your own home curating every single pitch to your liking per event with the biggest complaint being that they didnt rig the pitch properly for the final is equivalent to being unfair :misbah .


Never seen bigger liars in my life.
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India was given one venue because they couldn't travel to Pakistan, Pakistan lost matches both at home and in UAE.

Pitches were prepared by ICC, UAE is known for spinners, Pakistan was the host so India had no say in the pitch preparation.

This was a special case where due to India Pak politics a separate arrangement was made by ICC.

Aren't you the one who says WTC final is not advantageous to SENA teams?
 
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jeeteshssaxena said:
India was given one venue because they couldn't travel to Pakistan, Pakistan lost matches both at home and in UAE.

Pitches were prepared by ICC, UAE is known for spinners, Pakistan was the host so India had no say in the pitch preparation.

This was a special case where due to India Pak politics a separate arrangement was made by ICC.

Aren't you the one who says WTC final is not advantageous to SENA teams?
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I said WTC is only an advantage of England plays final. Otherwise it is not.

What have I said that is wrong. Special case my foot.

Be a man to admit that a team playing all its games in a single venue and tailoring a squad with 4 spinners and never travelling has a massive advantage over teams that are.
 
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The only thing that matters at last is that CT 25 was another addition to our ICC titles.

No one can deny that as that's what ICC says.

We eliminated the host Pakistani team and won a tournament they organised, that's definitely gonna hurt them. I can understand.
 
mominsaigol said:
I said WTC is only an advantage of England plays final. Otherwise it is not.

What have I said that is wrong. Special case my foot.

Be a man to admit that a team playing all its games in a single venue and tailoring a squad with 4 spinners and never travelling has a massive advantage over teams that are.
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Tailoring a squad?
What the hell is that?

Picking spinners is tailoring the squad.

Be a man and accept that we entered your tournament, kicked you out and came out on top
 
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jeeteshssaxena said:
Tailoring a squad?
What the hell is that?

Picking spinners is tailoring the squad.

Be a man and accept that we entered your tournament, kicked you out and came out on top
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Because other sides cannot pick that many spinners for obvious reasons as they have to play in Pakistan.

Secondly playing on a single venue throughout the tournament gives you a huge advantage.

We saw in the india vs Aus game that Australia clearly struggled adapting to the pitch which india had adapted to.

Travis head scored his slowest 30 on said pitch. Hate head all you want but he is not a slow batsmen, he is the opposite but obviously struggled initially since he is completly unfamiliar on such a venue.
 
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The problem with indians has always been their ego and compulsive lying behaviours.

I remember watching one kabadi game vs Pakistan and india.

Indian team was losing so bad that rather then finishing the game, they walked off the field.
 
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mominsaigol said:
Because other sides cannot pick that many spinners for obvious reasons as they have to play in Pakistan.

Secondly playing on a single venue throughout the tournament gives you a huge advantage.

We saw in the india vs Aus game that Australia clearly struggled adapting to the pitch which india had adapted to.

Travis head scored his slowest 30 on said pitch. Hate head all you want but he is not a slow batsmen, he is the opposite but obviously struggled initially since he is completly unfamiliar on such a venue.
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No worries, ifs and buts don't matter.

Winners winners regardless of these factors, your team didn't have what it takes
 
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jeeteshssaxena said:
No worries, ifs and buts don't matter.

Winners winners regardless of these factors, your team didn't have what it takes
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Not surprised when arguments such as Brydon Carse won the 3rd test vs India pop up

Winners my foot. What winners? What has india done in its 5000 year old history that speaks of winning?
 
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Rajdeep said:
So basically what you are saying is -

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no thats not what I am saying and I am not discrediting India either. Despite some advantages they still had to perform and win.

CT they had a clear advantage regarding where they played.

And ICC T20 they had a similar advantage.

Both advantages were acknowledged by non Pakistanis. I am reluctant to post the statements as last time I did @kron became a bit deranged for some reason :ROFLMAO:

Now does this completely belittle India's achievement. Of course not...but we must also acknowledge that world cricket is stacked in their favour.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
No worries, ifs and buts don't matter.

Winners winners regardless of these factors, your team didn't have what it takes
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It is too separate topics but Indians like to conflate it to dodge the issue at hand.

Both should be discussed separately.

Does India have massive advantages in recent ICC tournaments? - Yes

Is Pakistan a poor side that is performing very poorly across formats? - Yes

There is no need to try and link them both.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
There were very clear advantages acknowledged by the global cricketing fraternity at the time brother. You won't accept it anyway what's the point in me taking the time to detail it to you?
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Definitely an advantage but we were unbeaten though. So some credit is deserved. And we won without bumrah, Arshdeep and pant.
 
kron said:
Definitely an advantage but we were unbeaten though. So some credit is deserved. And we won without bumrah, Arshdeep and pant.
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Of course, despite having an advantage the players have to go and win the games. If you give Zimbabwe and Bangladesh advantages it doesn't mean they will win a world cup. India's performance cannot be completely discredited and that's not my intention either.

And if the shoe was on the other foot and say England or Aus was given a major advantage to win we wouldn't hear the end of it from Indians either. We hear it during the WTC which India has failed to win for example.
 
Will still require a quality team to expose the Indian white ball side.

Australia in 2023 had a bunch of high ceiling players to do this.

But even they don't seem to have the players anymore.

It seems to be beyond PAK, NZ, SA and ENG to expose this Indian side, no matter what .

We'll have to wait for the next generational Aussie side to do it .
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Of course, despite having an advantage the players have to go and win the games. If you give Zimbabwe and Bangladesh advantages it doesn't mean they will win a world cup. India's performance cannot be completely discredited and that's not my intention either.
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Aus have arranged slow pitches for 22 t20 wc semis to make India pak final at mcg.but eng beat the crap out of India on sluggish pitch and they won against pak's far better strong pace unit on a spicy pitch in finals.As u said champions will find a way to win but its not only due to some random factors. In ct, India lost all the tosses and were batting in tougher conditions.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Will still require a quality team to expose the Indian white ball side.

Australia in 2023 had a bunch of high ceiling players to do this.

But even they don't seem to have the players anymore.

It seems to be beyond PAK, NZ, SA and ENG to expose this Indian side, no matter what .

We'll have to wait for the next generational Aussie side to do it .
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The last 3 ICC LOI trophies have been in low slow subcontinent style conditions.

Do you have the same confidence that NZ, SA or Eng can't expose this Indian side in different conditions like the 2027 world cup in South Africa?
 
DeadlyVenom said:
The last 3 ICC LOI trophies have been in low slow subcontinent style conditions.

Do you have the same confidence that NZ, SA or Eng can't expose this Indian side in different conditions like the 2027 world cup in South Africa?
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The Caribbean pitches weren't all slow and low. We played Australia on a pretty fast pitch - St. lucia and defeated them .

If we get our selection right , pretty confident we will hold our own against all 3 of those sides.

We beat SA in SA not long ago.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Will still require a quality team to expose the Indian white ball side.

Australia in 2023 had a bunch of high ceiling players to do this.

But even they don't seem to have the players anymore.

It seems to be beyond PAK, NZ, SA and ENG to expose this Indian side, no matter what .

We'll have to wait for the next generational Aussie side to do it .
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This is agree. But dont worry. By 2031, we will see a return to classic Australia or 2015 Aus atleast.
 
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