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A simple recipe to expose team India in the ODI format!

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Team India has been brilliant in past two ICC ODI events, they managed to win one while lost the other to Aussies after remaining unbeaten through out the tournament. But like any team, they have Achilles Heels too. Indian team mostly manages to pressure the opposition through their batter's great rotation of strike technique. The guys like Virat Kohli, Shreyas Iyer, Axar Patel are masters of it. So if any team wish to beat India bad they really need to choke the runs for them through a Test style attacking field even after 1st Power play. Indian players barring Rohit Sharma are too poor in playing aerial shots and in the process of releasing pressure will end up throwing their wickets by playing skier and getting caught.

And in bowling they are even more vulnerable, if someone starts to attack their bowlers as dominos effect will come in place then. A thrashing in middle overs unlike death overs is more lethal to Indian team.
 
Thread should have about T20 as we have T20 world cup in next 7 month's

And thread titel should be like - How to Stop the india for winning 2026 World T20 .

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India are well ahead in T20s at the moment but false pride and doctoring can cause their demise....any team can beat them on big day if they didn't forsake cheating
 
What likes of Devdal, Rajdeep, Bhaag Viru need to understand is that pitch doctoring whether Mirpur or Dehli only gets you so far. Likes of Rohit and Mushi gone they will struggle big time
 
We already moved ahead and preparing for next test while you already started crying about 2026 World T20 😂😂😂 :kp
Lol read the thread title again....I bet any decent team could embarrass your side by following the recipe in OP.
 
Lol read the thread title again....I bet any decent team could embarrass your side by following the recipe in OP.
Don't know about others but Pakistan hasn't defeated india since 2017 in ODI cricket but first a match them talk about it. :kp
 
India lost 2017 final, 2023 final and 2003 final because of the same reason....They nearly choked on CT 2025 final too when NZ applied pressure but Rohit Sharma's early dash made the chase easy for them.
 
Stop giving them home pitches that are rigged beyond belief.

However to india's credit they are the best t20 team in the world.

A very fradulent odi team that'll get exposed in 2027
 
I wish your Indian brothers happiness. Don't want them exposed. Win and lose is part of the game but exposed Indians is something no human wants to see.
 
The last time Pakistan won an ODI game against India was in 2017. So if this was so easy as highlighted by OP, why couldn't they do it?

:yawn
 
The last time Pakistan won an ODI game against India was in 2017. So if this was so easy as highlighted by OP, why couldn't they do it?

:yawn
Same format forces Pakistani poster's to changed the team support and becomes the wannabe supporter after 2023 Asia Cup and World Cup 2023 humiliation defeat against India.

:kp
 
Lol read the thread title again....I bet any decent team could embarrass your side by following the recipe in OP.
If you know it, the coaches know it. If the coaches know it, teams know it.

Then why are they not following the recipe?
 
Stop giving them home pitches that are rigged beyond belief.

However to india's credit they are the best t20 team in the world.

A very fradulent odi team that'll get exposed in 2027
The blame is entirely on the hosts. They should be taken to task.
 
I don't understand why op went about advantages of pitch, travel, rest period, flight cost, air pollution etc for india during ct25.
 
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by rigging tosses
India always lose tosses
So yea that’s the perfect way

India t20 and odi team is too good

Test is developing
New team. Transition phase but potential is there.
 
India won 2 events back to back... There is nothing much to expose here... they are pretty good in white ball, especially.
 
India won 2 events back to back... There is nothing much to expose here... they are pretty good in white ball, especially.
They won t20 fairly. CT was rigged. They are not as good as 2023 rigging and 2025 rigging entailed this to be.

Sadly they will win 2026 because of rigging but they will lose 2027 wc. SA pitches wont save this rubbish lot.

No bumrah to bail out. No kohli who is their ace, no rohit who deapite being out of form is extremely dangerous nonetheless.

Likely an ageing Pandya.
 
They won t20 fairly. CT was rigged. They are not as good as 2023 rigging and 2025 rigging entailed this to be.

Sadly they will win 2026 because of rigging but they will lose 2027 wc. SA pitches wont save this rubbish lot.

No bumrah to bail out. No kohli who is their ace, no rohit who deapite being out of form is extremely dangerous nonetheless.

Likely an ageing Pandya.
What rigging India do in CT?
 
India won 2 events back to back... There is nothing much to expose here... they are pretty good in white ball, especially.
3 recent ICC events laid out on silver platter and they won 2. Sure we can congratulate them but as objective and neutral analysts we must also acknowledge the factors behind the two wins.
 
3 recent ICC events laid out on silver platter and they won 2. Sure we can congratulate them but as objective and neutral analysts we must also acknowledge the factors behind the two wins.
What were those factors?

I know 2023 WC one where special swinging balls were given to Indian side but we didnt win it eventually.

What were the factors for WT20 2024 and CT 2025 wins? Sorry been long I have watched Har Lamha Purjosh

:kp
 
What rigging India do in CT?
We won fair and square.
There was no team on par with us.
We have beaten the second best team twice especially chasing in finals. We have lost tosses in all the important matches and batted in far tougher conditions.
Yes the only team playing on one pitch, of which they tailored their conditions by picking 4 specialist spinners in the squad and never had to travel back and forth getting use to conditons and getting the same advantages that a home side typically acquires in a a home test series except this time they get it for an icc event 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡.

No advantage at all.

This is why the biased 🤡 gang should never be taken seriously.

Now will state that in 2023 india was the most travelled team.

Apprantly being the most travelled home team at your own home curating every single pitch to your liking per event with the biggest complaint being that they didnt rig the pitch properly for the final is equivalent to being unfair :misbah .


Never seen bigger liars in my life.
 
Yes the only team playing on one pitch, of which they tailored their conditions by picking 4 specialist spinners in the squad and never had to travel back and forth getting use to conditons and getting the same advantages that a home side typically acquires in a a home test series except this time they get it for an icc event 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡.

No advantage at all.

This is why the biased 🤡 gang should never be taken seriously.

Now will state that in 2023 india was the most travelled team.

Apprantly being the most travelled home team at your own home curating every single pitch to your liking per event with the biggest complaint being that they didnt rig the pitch properly for the final is equivalent to being unfair :misbah .


Never seen bigger liars in my life.
The arrangement for the Champions Trophy was always meant to have India play at a single venue due to security concerns. The only question was whether that venue would be in Dubai or Pakistan. The PCB wanted India to play all their matches in Lahore. So, even if India had agreed to the PCB’s demands, all their matches would still have been in one venue.

In the 2023 World Cup, India was indeed the most traveled team—and yet they topped the chart. Pakistan, on the other hand, was restricted to a few venues for similar security concerns and still languished at the bottom. This only proves one thing: losers complain, whereas good teams adapt.

When a team travels, they not only have to adjust to pitch conditions but also deal with jet lag and travel fatigue. Traveling from one city to another in India is more exhausting than moving between Lahore and Dubai.

Oh and I forgot bunch of smileys - 🤡 :misbah

:kp
 
Why this is being discussed now? ICC events and rigging?
Don't you think its time we look at Umpire Baises, Toss-rigging (I suspect the coin used against Indian Matches), Ball-rigging (Different balls being supplied to English & Indian Bowlers) in the ongoing Test Series?
We become crybabies if we do this! But our neighbors still can't get away with Indian Wins which Indians themselves have forgotten (we are at the moment anxious about the ongoing test series and want to win it against all odds, challenges & disadvantages!)
 
The arrangement for the Champions Trophy was always meant to have India play at a single venue due to security concerns. The only question was whether that venue would be in Dubai or Pakistan. The PCB wanted India to play all their matches in Lahore. So, even if India had agreed to the PCB’s demands, all their matches would still have been in one venue.

In the 2023 World Cup, India was indeed the most traveled team—and yet they topped the chart. Pakistan, on the other hand, was restricted to a few venues for similar security concerns and still languished at the bottom. This only proves one thing: losers complain, whereas good teams adapt.

When a team travels, they not only have to adjust to pitch conditions but also deal with jet lag and travel fatigue. Traveling from one city to another in India is more exhausting than moving between Lahore and Dubai.

Oh and I forgot bunch of smileys - 🤡 :misbah

:kp
1000024004.png Rajdeep when he realises he's British
 
What were those factors?

I know 2023 WC one where special swinging balls were given to Indian side but we didnt win it eventually.

What were the factors for WT20 2024 and CT 2025 wins? Sorry been long I have watched Har Lamha Purjosh

:kp
There were very clear advantages acknowledged by the global cricketing fraternity at the time brother. You won't accept it anyway what's the point in me taking the time to detail it to you?
 
What were those factors?

I know 2023 WC one where special swinging balls were given to Indian side but we didnt win it eventually.

What were the factors for WT20 2024 and CT 2025 wins? Sorry been long I have watched Har Lamha Purjosh

:kp


India played all their CT 2025 games in Dubai. That was a clear advantage because they didn't have to move at all.

Other teams had to travel to Pakistan and UAE back and forth. NZ traveled from Pakistan to UAE to Pakistan to UAE, for example.

As far as I am concerned, NZ were the real winner of CT 2025.
 
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India played all their CT 2025 games in Dubai. That was a clear advantage because they didn't have to move at all.

Other teams had to travel to Pakistan and UAE back and forth. NZ traveled from Pakistan to UAE to Pakistan to UAE, for example.

As far as I am concerned, NZ were the real winner of CT 2025.
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Yes the only team playing on one pitch, of which they tailored their conditions by picking 4 specialist spinners in the squad and never had to travel back and forth getting use to conditons and getting the same advantages that a home side typically acquires in a a home test series except this time they get it for an icc event 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡.

No advantage at all.

This is why the biased 🤡 gang should never be taken seriously.

Now will state that in 2023 india was the most travelled team.

Apprantly being the most travelled home team at your own home curating every single pitch to your liking per event with the biggest complaint being that they didnt rig the pitch properly for the final is equivalent to being unfair :misbah .


Never seen bigger liars in my life.

India was given one venue because they couldn't travel to Pakistan, Pakistan lost matches both at home and in UAE.

Pitches were prepared by ICC, UAE is known for spinners, Pakistan was the host so India had no say in the pitch preparation.

This was a special case where due to India Pak politics a separate arrangement was made by ICC.

Aren't you the one who says WTC final is not advantageous to SENA teams?
 
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India was given one venue because they couldn't travel to Pakistan, Pakistan lost matches both at home and in UAE.

Pitches were prepared by ICC, UAE is known for spinners, Pakistan was the host so India had no say in the pitch preparation.

This was a special case where due to India Pak politics a separate arrangement was made by ICC.

Aren't you the one who says WTC final is not advantageous to SENA teams?
I said WTC is only an advantage of England plays final. Otherwise it is not.

What have I said that is wrong. Special case my foot.

Be a man to admit that a team playing all its games in a single venue and tailoring a squad with 4 spinners and never travelling has a massive advantage over teams that are.
 
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The only thing that matters at last is that CT 25 was another addition to our ICC titles.

No one can deny that as that's what ICC says.

We eliminated the host Pakistani team and won a tournament they organised, that's definitely gonna hurt them. I can understand.
 
I said WTC is only an advantage of England plays final. Otherwise it is not.

What have I said that is wrong. Special case my foot.

Be a man to admit that a team playing all its games in a single venue and tailoring a squad with 4 spinners and never travelling has a massive advantage over teams that are.
Tailoring a squad?
What the hell is that?

Picking spinners is tailoring the squad.

Be a man and accept that we entered your tournament, kicked you out and came out on top
 
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Tailoring a squad?
What the hell is that?

Picking spinners is tailoring the squad.

Be a man and accept that we entered your tournament, kicked you out and came out on top
Because other sides cannot pick that many spinners for obvious reasons as they have to play in Pakistan.

Secondly playing on a single venue throughout the tournament gives you a huge advantage.

We saw in the india vs Aus game that Australia clearly struggled adapting to the pitch which india had adapted to.

Travis head scored his slowest 30 on said pitch. Hate head all you want but he is not a slow batsmen, he is the opposite but obviously struggled initially since he is completly unfamiliar on such a venue.
 
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The problem with indians has always been their ego and compulsive lying behaviours.

I remember watching one kabadi game vs Pakistan and india.

Indian team was losing so bad that rather then finishing the game, they walked off the field.
 
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Because other sides cannot pick that many spinners for obvious reasons as they have to play in Pakistan.

Secondly playing on a single venue throughout the tournament gives you a huge advantage.

We saw in the india vs Aus game that Australia clearly struggled adapting to the pitch which india had adapted to.

Travis head scored his slowest 30 on said pitch. Hate head all you want but he is not a slow batsmen, he is the opposite but obviously struggled initially since he is completly unfamiliar on such a venue.
No worries, ifs and buts don't matter.

Winners winners regardless of these factors, your team didn't have what it takes
 
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No worries, ifs and buts don't matter.

Winners winners regardless of these factors, your team didn't have what it takes
Not surprised when arguments such as Brydon Carse won the 3rd test vs India pop up

Winners my foot. What winners? What has india done in its 5000 year old history that speaks of winning?
 
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So basically what you are saying is -

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no thats not what I am saying and I am not discrediting India either. Despite some advantages they still had to perform and win.

CT they had a clear advantage regarding where they played.

And ICC T20 they had a similar advantage.

Both advantages were acknowledged by non Pakistanis. I am reluctant to post the statements as last time I did @kron became a bit deranged for some reason :ROFLMAO:

Now does this completely belittle India's achievement. Of course not...but we must also acknowledge that world cricket is stacked in their favour.
 
No worries, ifs and buts don't matter.

Winners winners regardless of these factors, your team didn't have what it takes
It is too separate topics but Indians like to conflate it to dodge the issue at hand.

Both should be discussed separately.

Does India have massive advantages in recent ICC tournaments? - Yes

Is Pakistan a poor side that is performing very poorly across formats? - Yes

There is no need to try and link them both.
 
There were very clear advantages acknowledged by the global cricketing fraternity at the time brother. You won't accept it anyway what's the point in me taking the time to detail it to you?
Definitely an advantage but we were unbeaten though. So some credit is deserved. And we won without bumrah, Arshdeep and pant.
 
Definitely an advantage but we were unbeaten though. So some credit is deserved. And we won without bumrah, Arshdeep and pant.
Of course, despite having an advantage the players have to go and win the games. If you give Zimbabwe and Bangladesh advantages it doesn't mean they will win a world cup. India's performance cannot be completely discredited and that's not my intention either.

And if the shoe was on the other foot and say England or Aus was given a major advantage to win we wouldn't hear the end of it from Indians either. We hear it during the WTC which India has failed to win for example.
 
Will still require a quality team to expose the Indian white ball side.

Australia in 2023 had a bunch of high ceiling players to do this.

But even they don't seem to have the players anymore.

It seems to be beyond PAK, NZ, SA and ENG to expose this Indian side, no matter what .

We'll have to wait for the next generational Aussie side to do it .
 
Of course, despite having an advantage the players have to go and win the games. If you give Zimbabwe and Bangladesh advantages it doesn't mean they will win a world cup. India's performance cannot be completely discredited and that's not my intention either.
Aus have arranged slow pitches for 22 t20 wc semis to make India pak final at mcg.but eng beat the crap out of India on sluggish pitch and they won against pak's far better strong pace unit on a spicy pitch in finals.As u said champions will find a way to win but its not only due to some random factors. In ct, India lost all the tosses and were batting in tougher conditions.
 
Will still require a quality team to expose the Indian white ball side.

Australia in 2023 had a bunch of high ceiling players to do this.

But even they don't seem to have the players anymore.

It seems to be beyond PAK, NZ, SA and ENG to expose this Indian side, no matter what .

We'll have to wait for the next generational Aussie side to do it .
The last 3 ICC LOI trophies have been in low slow subcontinent style conditions.

Do you have the same confidence that NZ, SA or Eng can't expose this Indian side in different conditions like the 2027 world cup in South Africa?
 
The last 3 ICC LOI trophies have been in low slow subcontinent style conditions.

Do you have the same confidence that NZ, SA or Eng can't expose this Indian side in different conditions like the 2027 world cup in South Africa?

The Caribbean pitches weren't all slow and low. We played Australia on a pretty fast pitch - St. lucia and defeated them .

If we get our selection right , pretty confident we will hold our own against all 3 of those sides.

We beat SA in SA not long ago.
 
Will still require a quality team to expose the Indian white ball side.

Australia in 2023 had a bunch of high ceiling players to do this.

But even they don't seem to have the players anymore.

It seems to be beyond PAK, NZ, SA and ENG to expose this Indian side, no matter what .

We'll have to wait for the next generational Aussie side to do it .
This is agree. But dont worry. By 2031, we will see a return to classic Australia or 2015 Aus atleast.
 
Wish we have an Asia cup right nwo where we can send the T20 team minus SKY and see hwo they do.
I think we are having it.sony is putting lots of pressure on bcci through icc .Icc decided to take matters in to its hands and have a private discussion with India and pak in Singapore .Even pcb and bcb discussion in Dhaka is moved to uae .

 
Now does this completely belittle India's achievement. Of course not...but we must also acknowledge that world cricket is stacked in their favour.

I completely discredit and belittle India's cricket achievements until they stop hijacking world cricket (i.e., until ICC stops being BCCICC). :inti
 
India is not doing well in red ball atm but they have been good in LOIs... Not sure why the whole fuss is going on?
 
Irrelevant of simplicity of plan , if no one is doing it then plan should delusional or the person.
 
India is not doing well in red ball atm but they have been good in LOIs... Not sure why the whole fuss is going on?
INdia has a lost a lot of people oflate. SOme in their twilight of their career. India never had a chance to groom a no.4 batsman as Kohli was needlessly occupying the spot for 4 years. Same with Rohit taking up openers spot preventing KL Rahul from opening. Pujara and Rahane phased out. Because of Kohli's presence everyone was batting out of position. Shami almost phased out. Ashwin retired. Inspite of all that with a bit of luck INdia could have won a lot more recently in Australia and England. Absolutely no excuse for home series loss though. But for the first time in the 10 years Ashwin and Jadeja failed to step up with bat in home series. They were the corner stones of many home series wins. with their batting. Transition would have been smoother if only KOhli and ROhit had retired 2 or 3 years back.
 
It was great that India lost the test series against New Zealand, that led to retirements of Kohli and Rohit.

Series like these help taking tough decisions.
 
Thread should have about T20 as we have T20 world cup in next 7 month's

And thread titel should be like - How to Stop the india for winning 2026 World T20 .

:kp
they really need to push the T20 worldc cup to every 4 years. The last WC is still fresh in many people's mind.
 
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INdia has a lost a lot of people oflate. SOme in their twilight of their career. India never had a chance to groom a no.4 batsman as Kohli was needlessly occupying the spot for 4 years. Same with Rohit taking up openers spot preventing KL Rahul from opening. Pujara and Rahane phased out. Because of Kohli's presence everyone was batting out of position. Shami almost phased out. Ashwin retired. Inspite of all that with a bit of luck INdia could have won a lot more recently in Australia and England. Absolutely no excuse for home series loss though. But for the first time in the 10 years Ashwin and Jadeja failed to step up with bat in home series. They were the corner stones of many home series wins. with their batting. Transition would have been smoother if only KOhli and ROhit had retired 2 or 3 years back.
Teams and players are groomed if you carry your youngsters in the presence of senior and experienced players, not when they are retired.

Look at Pakistan. The same happened here. Still early days but route is same.
 
Stop giving them home pitches that are rigged beyond belief.

However to india's credit they are the best t20 team in the world.

A very fradulent odi team that'll get exposed in 2027
I hope Kohli and Rohit are gone by then. Then the ODI team won't be so bad.
 
I hope Kohli and Rohit are gone by then. Then the ODI team won't be so bad.
The odi team is good but overrated. They have consistently been given pitches tailor made for kohli and rohit and get exposed every time a pitch isn't to their liking.

They will get butchered in south Africa if rohit and kohli persist till 2027
 
There were very clear advantages acknowledged by the global cricketing fraternity at the time brother. You won't accept it anyway what's the point in me taking the time to detail it to you?
Isn't this true for every team which won any cup? 1983 world cup final pitch suited indias slow bowlers, 1992 suited Pakistans then fast bowlers. England's only win in 2019 was on a flat track which suited their players. And so on

Why is it singled out only when india wins?
 
Isn't this true for every team which won any cup? 1983 world cup final pitch suited indias slow bowlers, 1992 suited Pakistans then fast bowlers. England's only win in 2019 was on a flat track which suited their players. And so on

Why is it singled out only when india wins?
2023 and 2025 only.

Not 2024. I disagree with all claims about 2024 world cup. They won that fair and square despite being given certain pitches such as New York.
 
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Teams and players are groomed if you carry your youngsters in the presence of senior and experienced players, not when they are retired.

Look at Pakistan. The same happened here. Still early days but route is same.
THere is a difference between playing with declining seniors and completely off the boil seniors. It put youngsters under more pressure.
 
Isn't this true for every team which won any cup? 1983 world cup final pitch suited indias slow bowlers, 1992 suited Pakistans then fast bowlers. England's only win in 2019 was on a flat track which suited their players. And so on

Why is it singled out only when india wins?
Those were coincidence. None of those world cup schedules were Tailor made for specific teams.

We haven't had any world cup or tournaments in history prior to past few years where only 1 team knows beforehand exactly where it's matches will be and other teams are in state of limbo.
 
2023 and 2025 only.

Not 2024. I disagree with all claims about 2024 world cup. They won that fair and square despite being given certain pitches such as New York.
India in 2024 were given the advantage of not playing any night matches, and knowing beforehand where their semi final would be held.

No other team had these advantages, even Indian pundits admitted at the time.
 
India in 2024 were given the advantage of not playing any night matches, and knowing beforehand where their semi final would be held.

No other team had these advantages, even Indian pundits admitted at the time.
What exactly pak have done knowing in wc 23 they will be playing at kolkata in day and night semis no matter what.they had 2 fixtures at kolkata too where rest every one had at max 1 match. Pak were supposed to beat eng by 500 runs to qualify for semis.Loosers find excuses champions deal with it .
 
Their new batsmen coming up are good st playing aerial shots, only matter of time before virat kohli retires
 
What exactly pak have done knowing in wc 23 they will be playing at kolkata in day and night semis no matter what.they had 2 fixtures at kolkata too where rest every one had at max 1 match. Pak were supposed to beat eng by 500 runs to qualify for semis.Loosers find excuses champions deal with it .
As I said earlier having an advantage doesn't necessarily make a bad team good. If a world cup is held in Mirpur or Harare it won't make Bangladesh or Zimbabwe favourites. Same case for Pakistan.

When teams are evenly matched it can give an advantage.

Its interesting to say "loosers" find excuses...well I've seen Indians make similar excuses and whine and cry when they lost WTC final and complain about the disadvantage they have v Australia or New Zealand.

You guys must be losers under your definition too.
 
What exactly pak have done knowing in wc 23 they will be playing at kolkata in day and night semis no matter what.they had 2 fixtures at kolkata too where rest every one had at max 1 match. Pak were supposed to beat eng by 500 runs to qualify for semis.Loosers find excuses champions deal with it .
I typically ignore you, and you will ignore this anyway as you are literally the coward reporting hypocrite but I find it funny how many SS I have of you

A) Complaining about wc 2023 final
B) Complaining about wtc 2023 final
C) Complaining about wtc 2021 final
D) Complaining about wc 2019 semi final
E) Complaining about wc 2021 matches as a whole, the classic indians were tired of playing ipl excuse
F) Complained about wc 2022 semi final

List goes on and on. Yeah dude you clearly took it like a man. I am so proud of you. Now get this comment deleted
 
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