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A sincere question to Indians, what did your government achieve from "Operation Sindoor"?

Hahahaha...you want me to school you again....Busy a bit. Will surely do next week
From Kargil to the Coup: Events That Shook Pakistan, then-Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was the one who asked US President Bill Clinton for a ceasefire and intervention to end the Kargil War.


@The Bald Eagle go and read the actual truth.

:klopp :kp
 
There are a lot of issues with either side’s claim. The radar image can be made up. It’s just an image with no time stamp. Pakistan presented a picture of all the Mig’s missiles intact so then what missiles did Abhinandan shoot from. It’s been years and yet the US has not leaked an F-16 being shot. Pakistan has enough enemies in the US to leak this info and yet there is nothing. Pakistan’s claim has holes I admit, but they have said that an Indian pilot died in hospital. Maybe an easy opportunity to bury him in an unmarked grave knowing that India will not claim him.
Can you share the picture from official source showing all missiles intact on the plane.. I remember they showing some missiles later not right after the crash.

I am not even bringing indian claims here which you can challenge as you did

My point is essentially three things.

Dgispr claiming two jets down two pilots captured...one taken to hospital and that person dying. So question is which plane and pilot was it.

Why wouldn't India claim it's fallen..we did during Kargil.

Videos showing two parachutes and two jet contrails going down.

Eyewitness videos in pak media saying two planes and two parachutes.

These are all exclusively on your side...
 
If this thread keeps going, Hindutva folks are gonna end up bragging like, well actually, Abdul was lynched by Kumar, just to distract everyone from the May events embarrassment. At this rate, they’ll rewrite the whole encyclopedia before admitting anything.
 
Big statement from top Indian Army leadership:
"Victory will be achieved on the ground. Pakistan will not accept that we have won until we capture the land. So, all domains are important": Chief of Indian Army Western Command which is responsible for conquest of territory in Pakistan's Punjab province.
Adds, Indian Army is preparing for offensives by crossing major rivers (Sutlej, Beas, Chenab etc).

We Said , even 🤡 like @Rana and many claimed victory in Asia cups which was live telecast Just because Farhan hits sole sixes against Bumrah, although Pakistan humiliated on three successive Sunday. This is how they are delusional and clueless.

:klopp :kp
 
Can you share the picture from official source showing all missiles intact on the plane.. I remember they showing some missiles later not right after the crash.

I am not even bringing indian claims here which you can challenge as you did

My point is essentially three things.

Dgispr claiming two jets down two pilots captured...one taken to hospital and that person dying. So question is which plane and pilot was it.

Why wouldn't India claim it's fallen..we did during Kargil.

Videos showing two parachutes and two jet contrails going down.

Eyewitness videos in pak media saying two planes and two parachutes.

These are all exclusively on your side...
Eye witnesses also saying 3 pilots coming down? Who is the 3rd? Pakistan only operates dual-seat trainers for F-16s and JF-17Bs. Why would they use a trainer. Pakistan does not operate any other dual-seat. India does however operate dual-seat SU-30MKIs.

Your own link to the Print Article shows pictures of all intact missiles from the mig.
 

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Big statement from top Indian Army leadership:
"Victory will be achieved on the ground. Pakistan will not accept that we have won until we capture the land. So, all domains are important": Chief of Indian Army Western Command which is responsible for conquest of territory in Pakistan's Punjab province.
Adds, Indian Army is preparing for offensives by crossing major rivers (Sutlej, Beas, Chenab etc).

We Said , even 🤡 like @Rana and many claimed victory in Asia cups which was live telecast Just because Farhan hits sole sixes against Bumrah, although Pakistan humiliated on three successive Sunday. This is how they are delusional and clueless.

:klopp :kp

:kp
 
Please bring your Hindi-Bhindi back to the motherland and wave your jhanda for your Narendra. At the moment, your tax money is going to the Donald.

Right after Urdu-Burdu folks like you and your "mentor" :inti have evacuated to East or West Pakistan.

Here is the good news though: I will sponsor your one-way cattle class tickets. :cigar

You must think in your mind that only you can make obnoxious comments ehh ?
 

Air Chief Marshal Zaheer Ahmad Babar Speech - confirming the amount off indian jets got taken down - he says 8 i believe - same number trump been saying:​


 
@Devadwal I remember you were asking about Kargil, Mujahideens ie Pak army was all over the place until Musharraf and Your favorite NS fooled the nation by calling them all Mujahideens and failing to send air force for their safe repatriation.

You lot just hit Mujahideens ie army personnels when they were heading back without air force cover while you lot breached understanding reached with Bill Clinton and use air force and navy to distract and attack the returning soldiers
 
@Devadwal I remember you were asking about Kargil, Mujahideens ie Pak army was all over the place until Musharraf and Your favorite NS fooled the nation by calling them all Mujahideens and failing to send air force for their safe repatriation.

You lot just hit Mujahideens ie army personnels when they were heading back without air force cover while you lot breached understanding reached with Bill Clinton and use air force and navy to distract and attack the returning soldiers
Lol do you even know entire history of Kargil war ? Please first read it then disscus with me with fact because In one second I can exposed your fake propaganda .

Btw everyone's are talking about Pakistan fake propaganda.

Here just another example


:kopp :kp
 
Pakistan's Defence Minister sharing fake propaganda tells us how deeply Pakistan is involved in spreading fake propaganda. :klopp :kp
 
Dg ispr has totally crapped on your narrative

As for yalda she's a zionist hindutva slave we saw her bias when she went up against khwaja asif and the naked Indian aggression and somehow its pakistans fault .

Who was upset when India got put back in its box yalda and aleema .

Admit bewal you wanted india to overrun the armed forces and get routed didn't you ?

Dg ispr has you lot marked he even went after the kpk government its a warning mate governor rule is coming there and your taliban ashnas are gonna get some hard-core chitar on battlefield and violently tortured when the ones get captured.
Yalda is Afghan..neither Hindu nor Jew. Just because she doesn't buy bs and propaganda doesn't make her a slave. Tell me which part of what she asked is wrong. Pakistan is a terrorist state..it sided with mujhauddins, protected Osama, protects let trp jem hizbool, hafeez masood ilyas and all roam around your country...so no you can buy your military bs but rest of the world knows who you are.

As for Sindoor..the world has seen Pakistani bases destroyed and taking 7 months to repair with videos plastered all over the world and military leaders parading at the funerals of terrorists killed...such a beautiful sight btw...

And what does Pakistan claim..a zero evidence of wreckage claim that they downed 6 jets..number changes from 3 5 7 8..whatever Sharif smokes that day. At least India has staellite images of the 2 out of 12 claimed hits.
 
Yes there is no political agenda behind a Congress Leader. It must be true what he is saying.

:klopp
 

Yes there is no political agenda behind a Congress Leader. It must be true what he is saying.

:klopp
Now reduced to this... :LOL: :LOL:

Please explain why would he make himself a pariah with the deluded Indian masses. This is not a vote winning strategy.

He is just telling the truth mate, at a very heavy political and personal cost to himself.
 
Now reduced to this... :LOL: :LOL:

Please explain why would he make himself a pariah with the deluded Indian masses. This is not a vote winning strategy.

He is just telling the truth mate, at a very heavy political and personal cost to himself.
Congress is India's primary opposition party and has always casted apprehension of any operation by Indian army under this govt. Let it be on Balakot or during Op Sindoor. I am not surprised you are taking a liking of his statement as Congress is known more of a Pakistani party in India and hence fondly called as 'Khangress'. However, what they say must be taken with a pinch of salt and no one in India takes them seriously.

Op Sindoor was a highly successful operation and we have debated about it for ages. It was the first of its kind operation where a country entered another nuclear country and hit them. This operation is also fondly known as Ghar me Ghoos ke. Pakistan on the other hand tried the same with Op Bunyan Marsoos but had to accept the ceasefire within 4 hours. Basically shuru hote hi khatam ho gaya.

Why dont you listen to Ishaq Dar and his statements. You dont have to trust me.

:klopp
 
Congress is India's primary opposition party and has always casted apprehension of any operation by Indian army under this govt. Let it be on Balakot or during Op Sindoor. I am not surprised you are taking a liking of his statement as Congress is known more of a Pakistani party in India and hence fondly called as 'Khangress'. However, what they say must be taken with a pinch of salt and no one in India takes them seriously.

Op Sindoor was a highly successful operation and we have debated about it for ages. It was the first of its kind operation where a country entered another nuclear country and hit them. This operation is also fondly known as Ghar me Ghoos ke. Pakistan on the other hand tried the same with Op Bunyan Marsoos but had to accept the ceasefire within 4 hours. Basically shuru hote hi khatam ho gaya.

Why dont you listen to Ishaq Dar and his statements. You dont have to trust me.

:klopp
Your CDS admitted to the same... jets shot down, airforce was grounded. Is he congress party member too?

 
Your CDS admitted to the same... jets shot down, airforce was grounded. Is he congress party member too?

Every other day you come to this thread for self tasalli and repeat the same gheesa peeta posts. It just shows how much the events of May must have hurted you.

For the umpteenth time, we all know Indian jets did go down. However, that has nothing to do with Op Sindoor's success. In a war, planes go down and solders die. Your 11 air bases were also shattered including the Nur Khan airbase due to which USA & Trump intervened in the first place. All of these are skirmishes. The point remains, India's operation sindoor on 7th May was the successful one. Pakistan had to halt their Op Bunyan Marsoos even before it started on 10th May.

Think about this logically, if Pakistan was really on top and was winning the war, why did they accept the ceasefire? When dushman is down you dont back out. They should have carry on Op Bunyan Marsoos and send the jets inside India like India had done by sending its jets inside Pakistan on 7th May. Why did Ishaq Dar said to Prince Faisal to speak to S.Jaishankar and inform him 'if they stop...we will stop'. Well India had no reason to not stop as the war was over for them on 7th May after successful Operation Sindoor. From then onwards they were simply reciprocating against Pakistan's aggression.

Congressis sell churan and Pakistanis like you lap it up.
 

Prithviraj Chauhan claims India’s first-day defeat in Operation Sindoor​


Prithviraj Chauhan, former Chief Minister of Maharashtra and Congress leader, has admitted that India lost the war on the first day of Operation Sindoor. Speaking at a press conference, he said that on May 7, in just half an hour of aerial combat, Indian aircraft were shot down, and the battle was effectively lost.

Chauhan added that after the initial fight, Indian Air Force planes were grounded to avoid further losses against Pakistan Air Force attacks. He said the conflict during Operation Sandor primarily involved air battles and missile strikes, with minimal ground movement by Indian forces.

The former CM questioned the need for maintaining a 1.2 million-strong army if it does not actively participate in such conflicts. He suggested that the military could be deployed for other tasks instead of being idle during warfare.

Chauhan refused to apologize for his statements, asserting that he stands by his remarks and has said nothing wrong. His comments have sparked a political uproar in India, drawing criticism from several leaders and former ministers.

Political analysts say the admission has reignited debates over India’s military strategy and preparedness during cross-border operations. The statement also fuels public discussion on the effectiveness of India’s armed forces in modern warfare scenarios.
 
Hahaha....wanna try again then...so bad you had one task to free us of incompetents and instead you made them heroes
Post #1778, #1781, #1783, Ishaq Dar, Prince Faisal, Nur Khan Airbase, Ghar me ghoos ke, multiple times repeat...etc etc.

Rest you are sensible person

:kp
 
Dear @Rajdeep.

Real world is not like Bollywood movie. In real world, Indian military can experience casualties and they indeed suffered heavy casualties in the Operation Tandoor. :inti

As a matter of fact, India haven't won a single conflict since your beloved chaiwala Modi came to power. :inti
India effectively won the war on 7 May following the successful execution of Operation Sindoor. What followed were limited skirmishes from both sides, during which India lost some jets, while 11 Pakistani air bases were destroyed. Pakistan attempted to launch Operation Bunyan Marsoos, but accepted a ceasefire before it even began.

So the question remains the same: if Pakistan was winning this war, why did it agree to a ceasefire instead of sending jets to Delhi? India, after all, crossed into Pakistan on 7 May and demonstrated both intent and capability.

India has won every conventional war it has fought against Pakistan. In fact, Pakistan’s current condition is a direct result of its decisive defeat in the 1971 war, where India dismantled Pakistan in less than two weeks. Once both countries acquired nuclear weapons, conventional wars stopped, and Pakistan shifted to sponsoring terrorism through non-state actors to pursue Kashmir—a goal it failed to achieve even after fighting four wars.

India previously had soft prime ministers who chose restraint even after major Pakistan-sponsored terrorist attacks. Incidents such as the IC-814 hijacking, the Parliament attack, and 26/11 were not met with any meaningful military response. And if you don’t fight, you neither win nor lose.

That has changed. India now has a nationalist prime minister with a clear doctrine:
for every Pulwama, there will be Balakot;
for every Pahalgam, there will be Operation Sindoor.


In short, any form of aggression from Pakistan will be met with a military response. And the reality is—there’s absolutely nothing Pakistan can do about it.

Hopefully you will not ask such silly question(s) again in future.

:inti
 
Why Pak & BD posters so much obsessed with Bollywood? Even as an Indian, I find Bollywood cringe and rarely watch any films.

Is this a tactic to change the topic when losing the debate?

:kp
 

Truth is the casualty”: How Indian fact-checkers debunked false claims during the India-Pakistan crisis​







“A month’s worth of misinformation bombarded social media within a few hours,” says fact-checker Uzair Rizvi. Many falsehoods were reported on TV as well.




Many Indian television channels looked like an animated video game, with graphics and crude sounds, from 7 to 10 May, when India and Pakistan dropped air missiles on each other before what looks like a temporary pause in violence now.

On 9 May, Times Now Navbharat, an Indian Hindi news channel which claims to be one of the most widely watched in the country, carried a peculiar piece of news.

The screen showed barbed wire at the bottom, a soldier with a machine gun in his hands, a tank moving ahead menacingly, and Prime Minister Narendra Modi standing tall on the left-hand side. “Indian forces enter into Pakistan,” the Hindi text read on a bold red backdrop. Fighter jets swooshed on the screen and an excited anchor’s voice boomed over it. “Indian forces have entered Pakistan,” he echoed, clapping his hands in excitement. “We have entered Pakistan”

This visual cut to seven panelists, each in an on-screen box. While one female panellist gave a thumbs up, another person opened his arms like an athlete winning a game and the main anchor cheered on with clenched fists. “Now it would be a lot of fun if the Navy set fire to the Karachi port,” the anchor said.

Then the channel showed what they claimed was footage from Pakistan’s port city of Karachi. Several TV channels carried the news of India having “invaded” Karachi. Some even said that the Indian army had invaded Islamabad and bombed the city of Lahore.

All of these reports turned out to be false.

While it is true that India and Pakistan used their respective air forces to launch missiles into each other’s territory, neither crossed the border into another’s territory. Both countries share 70 years of hostilities and have fought four wars. In the past decade alone, they have locked horns at least three times.

The latest escalation of violence came after gunmen killed 26 tourists in a meadow in Indian administered Kashmir. India blames Pakistan for the attacks, an allegation Pakistan denies.

Journalists and neutral observers across the world have noted how dangerous it could be for India and Pakistan to be in a state of war, not only because they possess nuclear weapons but also because it may drag in other regional powers such as China and Turkey.

That did not stop social media, TV channels and YouTubers from spreading false claims during the four days of military action, which the Indian government called Operation Sindoor.

“I have observed misinformation surrounding Gaza, Ukraine and Palestine, but since those were longer conflicts that escalated over months, the misinformation trickled out over several days,” said Uzair Rizvi, a Delhi-based fact-checker and media literacy trainer. “This situation felt as if a month’s worth of misinformation bombarded social media within the first few hours. By the end of 7 May, I had examined about 70 unique posts of misinformation. Considering all these posts were shared thousands of times, the extent of misinformation was immense,” he added.

Unapologetic about spreading fake news​

As fact-checkers began calling out fake news on Indian social media, many Indian accounts began defending themselves on X. “They are delusional and unapologetic,” said Pratik Sinha, co-founder of fact-checking website Alt News.

“In any conflict, the purpose of Information Warfare is clear: to confuse, mislead and break the thinking of the enemy,” said an X account with almost 100,000 followers on the kind of disinformation they were spreading. “We will do this… and do it again and again. So keep these teachings of ‘credibility’, ‘free speech’ and ‘morality’ to yourself.”

Some Indian right-wing accounts even praised each other for wilfully spreading false information. “The crux of the argument here [was] that Pakistani media was running false information, so Indian media shouldn't be blamed for running false information,” said Sinha on X.

Major Gaurav Arya, editor-in-chief of a right-wing think tank, took to X to explain how this is an era of “propaganda” and even referenced Nazi minister Joseph Goebbels.

Fake news was spread with so much impunity that even the government agencies began issuing fact checks on their official X accounts. In a statement, the Network of Women in Media said: “Several media outlets ignored even the Indian government’s official clarifications… that debunked such footage as outdated or manipulated.”

Anatomy of a crisis​

In order to learn what happened during those four days of violence between India and Pakistan, it is important to understand how false claims and misleading narratives were spread the previous time there was such violence between the two countries.

On 14 February 2019, a suicide bomber attacked an Indian army convoy and killed 40 soldiers in Pulwama district of Indian Kashmir. In retaliation, the Indian air force bombed an alleged training camp of Jaish-e-Mohammad, a terrorist group, in Balakot, Pakistan.

At the time the Indian government claimed they had killed 300 alleged terrorists. But the Reuters news agency used satellite images to report that the training camp was exactly as it was. “The images are virtually unchanged from an April 2018 satellite photo of the facility,” the Reuters report said. “There are no discernible holes in the roofs of buildings, no signs of scorching, blown-out walls, displaced trees around the school or other signs of an aerial attack.”

There were no videos from Pakistan of any casualties or damage either.

This time, fact-checkers said, as soon as India launched the attack, Indian authorities held press conferences to show images which detailed the impact of the strikes.

“This somehow satisfied Indian audiences. They didn't feel the need to rapidly generate fake information. Indian social media took a back seat at this point,” said Jency Jacob, Managing Editor of BOOM, a fact-checking website.

However, Jacob told me that misinformation surged on 7 May, in the early hours of the Indian attack, with Pakistani X accounts posting fake videos of air strike sites and damaged buildings. On the next day all hell broke loose on the Indian side as well.

24-hour news thrives on adrenaline-driven stories. So this might be the reason why many TV channels showed some of these false claims. Jacob, who has worked for leading TV channels in the past, said that the channels may have not been happy with the limited flow of information from the government. “They come under pressure from millions of voyeuristic audiences,” he said.

That’s when Indian TV channels began claiming that Indian forces had entered Pakistan.

This time around, Sinha from Alt News said, it became very clear that the news media were primarily addressing audiences in their own country. “Truth is the casualty,” he said, while emphasising that the media is not trying to unearth facts or hold its own governments to account but just trying to cater to the emotions of the masses.

Fake news mainly generated on X, said Rizvi, the Delhi-based fact-checker, “but what originated on X then seeped into TV channels, Facebook, WhatsApp, and Instagram.”

This time, fact-checked news also followed the same path, said Sinha from Alt-News: “Our fact-checks also trickled into WhatsApp and other YouTubers began quoting us.”

Blocking credible sources​

The misinformation problem was exacerbated when some credible news sources were blocked by Indian authorities.

Immediately after the attack on tourists on 22 April, the Indian government blocked about a dozen Pakistani YouTube channels, including those of established news outlets like Dawn.

Then, when air missiles were being launched into each other’s territories, the Indian government ordered X to block local access to about 8,000 accounts belonging to influential Pakistanis, Kashmiris and some Indians too. X reluctantly agreed to comply.

Online censorship was not enough. Indian authorities arrested freelance journalist Hilal Mir calling him a “radical social media user” and accusing him of disseminating “extremist/distorted content with an intention to disturb peace,” according to a report in the Kashmir Times, whose editor-in-chief Anuradha Bhasin also had her X account suspended.

Another Kashmiri journalist, Rejaz M. Sheeba Sydeek, has reportedly also been arrested for an online post criticising India’s moves against Pakistan.

Independent news outlet The Wire, was blocked for about 24-hours. Eventually, the block was lifted after the outlet agreed to take down an article reporting Pakistan’s claim to have shot down a French-made Indian fighter jet. The Wire called the order “unfair.”

The challenges faced by fact-checkers​

According to the Reuters Institute’s Digital News Report, almost half of Indian online users get their news from television. But the medium's true footprint is much bigger, as this survey underrepresents older and rural audiences. So it really matters that television channels made so many false claims in early May with very little apology or retraction.

“It is a matter of lack of checks and balances,” said Boom’s Jacob. Back in the day, news went to a news desk, where editors vetted it before passing it on to the anchor in the studio. “Who knows what the anchor is getting directly on his phone now?” asked Jacob, who stressed many anchors do read information they receive directly on their own devices.

AI-generated imagery has added new challenges for fact-checkers and traditional journalists alike. Deepfakes of Pakistan PM Shehbaz Sharif admitting defeat went viral across social media platforms in India. Similar deepfakes of PM Narendra Modi and Home Minister Amit Shah apologising to Pakistan also went viral.

“These create confusion when a lot of people are still not aware of AI deepfakes,” Jacob told me.

BOOM extracted the audio from the videos of Prime Minister Modi, Indian Home Minister Amit Shah and Indian External Affairs Minister Jaishankar, and ran them through various AI audio detection tools on Deepfake-o-meter, an open source resource by University at Buffalo's Media Forensics Lab. They then published a story explaining how they’ve done this work.

That was not the only challenge AI posed during this turbulent time. When some news organisations claimed that Indian forces had entered Pakistan or destroyed the port of Karachi, people started using Grok AI on X to verify these claims.

“The bot frequently returned hallucinated or outdated responses, giving false credibility to disinformation,” said Rizvi. “AI chatbots can provide accurate information, but they are far from reliable fact-checkers. While these chatbots can offer real-time responses, they often contribute to the chaos, especially in evolving situations,” he added.

The other challenge face-checkers face is speed, said Sinha: “Word spreads in different ways and the question is how soon one can put facts out.”

BOOM has created some standard operating procedures on how to work in such high pressure situations. “We decide how many resources we should put into something like this and how to put stuff out quickly without waiting to publish the entire story,” Jacob said. As a fact-checking organisation, he said, they need to be accurate and fast: “We can’t get it wrong, else we lose our credibility.”





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Operation Tandoor was a resounding defeat for India in many different ways.

Battlefield: They lost in a one-sided manner. I compare the loss to CT 2017 final defeat. :inti

PR: It was also a big PR defeat. India's image got ruined. They made things worse by consistently lying and trying to convince others with those lies. Suffice to say their lies did not work. Nobody believed them.

Financial loss: Tandoor defeat cost India at least $1-Billion. Those Rafale jets cost up to $280-million per jet. They lost 3. You do the math.

Only the low-IQ sanghis believed (and still believe) BJP's narrative. Rest of the world didn't. It was a decisive defeat for India. :inti
 
Operation Tandoor was a resounding defeat for India in many different ways.

Battlefield: They lost in a one-sided manner. I compare the loss to CT 2017 final defeat. :inti

PR: It was also a big PR defeat. India's image got ruined. They made things worse by consistently lying and trying to convince others with those lies. Suffice to say their lies did not work. Nobody believed them.

Financial loss: Tandoor defeat cost India at least $1-Billion. Those Rafale jets cost up to $280-million per jet. They lost 3. You do the math.

Only the low-IQ sanghis believed (and still believe) BJP's narrative. Rest of the world didn't. It was a decisive defeat for India. :inti
Source? Trust me bro!! :srt
 
External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar speaking to students at the Indian Institute of Technology, Madras:

"You can also have bad neighbours. Unfortunately, we do. When you have bad neighbours, if you look to the one to the west, if a country decides that it will deliberately, persistently, and unrepentantly continue with terrorism, we have a right to defend our people against terrorism. We will exercise that right."

"How we exercise that right is up to us. Nobody can tell us what we should or should not do. We will do whatever we have to do to defend ourselves.”

"Many years ago, we agreed to a water-sharing arrangement, but if you had decades of terrorism, there is no good neighbourliness. If there is no good neighbourliness, you don't get the benefits of that good neighbourliness. You can't say, "Please share water with me, but I will continue terrorism with you." That's not reconcilable,.”"

"If you have a neighbour who is good to you or at least who is not harmful to you, your natural instinct is to be kind, to help that neighbour, and that's what we do as a country."
 

Truth is the casualty”: How Indian fact-checkers debunked false claims during the India-Pakistan crisis​







“A month’s worth of misinformation bombarded social media within a few hours,” says fact-checker Uzair Rizvi. Many falsehoods were reported on TV as well.




Many Indian television channels looked like an animated video game, with graphics and crude sounds, from 7 to 10 May, when India and Pakistan dropped air missiles on each other before what looks like a temporary pause in violence now.

On 9 May, Times Now Navbharat, an Indian Hindi news channel which claims to be one of the most widely watched in the country, carried a peculiar piece of news.

The screen showed barbed wire at the bottom, a soldier with a machine gun in his hands, a tank moving ahead menacingly, and Prime Minister Narendra Modi standing tall on the left-hand side. “Indian forces enter into Pakistan,” the Hindi text read on a bold red backdrop. Fighter jets swooshed on the screen and an excited anchor’s voice boomed over it. “Indian forces have entered Pakistan,” he echoed, clapping his hands in excitement. “We have entered Pakistan”

This visual cut to seven panelists, each in an on-screen box. While one female panellist gave a thumbs up, another person opened his arms like an athlete winning a game and the main anchor cheered on with clenched fists. “Now it would be a lot of fun if the Navy set fire to the Karachi port,” the anchor said.

Then the channel showed what they claimed was footage from Pakistan’s port city of Karachi. Several TV channels carried the news of India having “invaded” Karachi. Some even said that the Indian army had invaded Islamabad and bombed the city of Lahore.

All of these reports turned out to be false.

While it is true that India and Pakistan used their respective air forces to launch missiles into each other’s territory, neither crossed the border into another’s territory. Both countries share 70 years of hostilities and have fought four wars. In the past decade alone, they have locked horns at least three times.

The latest escalation of violence came after gunmen killed 26 tourists in a meadow in Indian administered Kashmir. India blames Pakistan for the attacks, an allegation Pakistan denies.

Journalists and neutral observers across the world have noted how dangerous it could be for India and Pakistan to be in a state of war, not only because they possess nuclear weapons but also because it may drag in other regional powers such as China and Turkey.

That did not stop social media, TV channels and YouTubers from spreading false claims during the four days of military action, which the Indian government called Operation Sindoor.

“I have observed misinformation surrounding Gaza, Ukraine and Palestine, but since those were longer conflicts that escalated over months, the misinformation trickled out over several days,” said Uzair Rizvi, a Delhi-based fact-checker and media literacy trainer. “This situation felt as if a month’s worth of misinformation bombarded social media within the first few hours. By the end of 7 May, I had examined about 70 unique posts of misinformation. Considering all these posts were shared thousands of times, the extent of misinformation was immense,” he added.

Unapologetic about spreading fake news​

As fact-checkers began calling out fake news on Indian social media, many Indian accounts began defending themselves on X. “They are delusional and unapologetic,” said Pratik Sinha, co-founder of fact-checking website Alt News.

“In any conflict, the purpose of Information Warfare is clear: to confuse, mislead and break the thinking of the enemy,” said an X account with almost 100,000 followers on the kind of disinformation they were spreading. “We will do this… and do it again and again. So keep these teachings of ‘credibility’, ‘free speech’ and ‘morality’ to yourself.”

Some Indian right-wing accounts even praised each other for wilfully spreading false information. “The crux of the argument here [was] that Pakistani media was running false information, so Indian media shouldn't be blamed for running false information,” said Sinha on X.

Major Gaurav Arya, editor-in-chief of a right-wing think tank, took to X to explain how this is an era of “propaganda” and even referenced Nazi minister Joseph Goebbels.

Fake news was spread with so much impunity that even the government agencies began issuing fact checks on their official X accounts. In a statement, the Network of Women in Media said: “Several media outlets ignored even the Indian government’s official clarifications… that debunked such footage as outdated or manipulated.”

Anatomy of a crisis​

In order to learn what happened during those four days of violence between India and Pakistan, it is important to understand how false claims and misleading narratives were spread the previous time there was such violence between the two countries.

On 14 February 2019, a suicide bomber attacked an Indian army convoy and killed 40 soldiers in Pulwama district of Indian Kashmir. In retaliation, the Indian air force bombed an alleged training camp of Jaish-e-Mohammad, a terrorist group, in Balakot, Pakistan.

At the time the Indian government claimed they had killed 300 alleged terrorists. But the Reuters news agency used satellite images to report that the training camp was exactly as it was. “The images are virtually unchanged from an April 2018 satellite photo of the facility,” the Reuters report said. “There are no discernible holes in the roofs of buildings, no signs of scorching, blown-out walls, displaced trees around the school or other signs of an aerial attack.”

There were no videos from Pakistan of any casualties or damage either.

This time, fact-checkers said, as soon as India launched the attack, Indian authorities held press conferences to show images which detailed the impact of the strikes.

“This somehow satisfied Indian audiences. They didn't feel the need to rapidly generate fake information. Indian social media took a back seat at this point,” said Jency Jacob, Managing Editor of BOOM, a fact-checking website.

However, Jacob told me that misinformation surged on 7 May, in the early hours of the Indian attack, with Pakistani X accounts posting fake videos of air strike sites and damaged buildings. On the next day all hell broke loose on the Indian side as well.

24-hour news thrives on adrenaline-driven stories. So this might be the reason why many TV channels showed some of these false claims. Jacob, who has worked for leading TV channels in the past, said that the channels may have not been happy with the limited flow of information from the government. “They come under pressure from millions of voyeuristic audiences,” he said.

That’s when Indian TV channels began claiming that Indian forces had entered Pakistan.

This time around, Sinha from Alt News said, it became very clear that the news media were primarily addressing audiences in their own country. “Truth is the casualty,” he said, while emphasising that the media is not trying to unearth facts or hold its own governments to account but just trying to cater to the emotions of the masses.

Fake news mainly generated on X, said Rizvi, the Delhi-based fact-checker, “but what originated on X then seeped into TV channels, Facebook, WhatsApp, and Instagram.”

This time, fact-checked news also followed the same path, said Sinha from Alt-News: “Our fact-checks also trickled into WhatsApp and other YouTubers began quoting us.”

Blocking credible sources​

The misinformation problem was exacerbated when some credible news sources were blocked by Indian authorities.

Immediately after the attack on tourists on 22 April, the Indian government blocked about a dozen Pakistani YouTube channels, including those of established news outlets like Dawn.

Then, when air missiles were being launched into each other’s territories, the Indian government ordered X to block local access to about 8,000 accounts belonging to influential Pakistanis, Kashmiris and some Indians too. X reluctantly agreed to comply.

Online censorship was not enough. Indian authorities arrested freelance journalist Hilal Mir calling him a “radical social media user” and accusing him of disseminating “extremist/distorted content with an intention to disturb peace,” according to a report in the Kashmir Times, whose editor-in-chief Anuradha Bhasin also had her X account suspended.

Another Kashmiri journalist, Rejaz M. Sheeba Sydeek, has reportedly also been arrested for an online post criticising India’s moves against Pakistan.

Independent news outlet The Wire, was blocked for about 24-hours. Eventually, the block was lifted after the outlet agreed to take down an article reporting Pakistan’s claim to have shot down a French-made Indian fighter jet. The Wire called the order “unfair.”

The challenges faced by fact-checkers​

According to the Reuters Institute’s Digital News Report, almost half of Indian online users get their news from television. But the medium's true footprint is much bigger, as this survey underrepresents older and rural audiences. So it really matters that television channels made so many false claims in early May with very little apology or retraction.

“It is a matter of lack of checks and balances,” said Boom’s Jacob. Back in the day, news went to a news desk, where editors vetted it before passing it on to the anchor in the studio. “Who knows what the anchor is getting directly on his phone now?” asked Jacob, who stressed many anchors do read information they receive directly on their own devices.

AI-generated imagery has added new challenges for fact-checkers and traditional journalists alike. Deepfakes of Pakistan PM Shehbaz Sharif admitting defeat went viral across social media platforms in India. Similar deepfakes of PM Narendra Modi and Home Minister Amit Shah apologising to Pakistan also went viral.

“These create confusion when a lot of people are still not aware of AI deepfakes,” Jacob told me.

BOOM extracted the audio from the videos of Prime Minister Modi, Indian Home Minister Amit Shah and Indian External Affairs Minister Jaishankar, and ran them through various AI audio detection tools on Deepfake-o-meter, an open source resource by University at Buffalo's Media Forensics Lab. They then published a story explaining how they’ve done this work.

That was not the only challenge AI posed during this turbulent time. When some news organisations claimed that Indian forces had entered Pakistan or destroyed the port of Karachi, people started using Grok AI on X to verify these claims.

“The bot frequently returned hallucinated or outdated responses, giving false credibility to disinformation,” said Rizvi. “AI chatbots can provide accurate information, but they are far from reliable fact-checkers. While these chatbots can offer real-time responses, they often contribute to the chaos, especially in evolving situations,” he added.

The other challenge face-checkers face is speed, said Sinha: “Word spreads in different ways and the question is how soon one can put facts out.”

BOOM has created some standard operating procedures on how to work in such high pressure situations. “We decide how many resources we should put into something like this and how to put stuff out quickly without waiting to publish the entire story,” Jacob said. As a fact-checking organisation, he said, they need to be accurate and fast: “We can’t get it wrong, else we lose our credibility.”





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Indian media is trash..same as Pak media
..no one is denying that. Issue is dgispr is trash too and tries to fool it's population to loot the country...Indian armed forces on the other hand always talks with hard evidence and proof...that's the difference.
 
Indian media is trash..same as Pak media
..no one is denying that. Issue is dgispr is trash too and tries to fool it's population to loot the country...Indian armed forces on the other hand always talks with hard evidence and proof...that's the difference.

‘Hard’ evidence was ‘literally’ placed in your hands.
 
Was China not supplying its military might when Pakistan and india had their recent skirmishes.

My sweet, that’s all they do, sell their crappy weapons which fail anyway like they did during May 2025 resulting in a decisive Indian victory.

The craters Brahmos missiles left on Pakistani airbases are still being repaired as we speak. Pakistani labour is right now having even tea with biscuit at that very site and you know that because you supplied the biscuits this morning. We saw that on our satellite. We have our eyes on you.
 
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My sweet summer child, that’s all they do, sell their crappy weapons which fail anyway like they did during May 2025 resulting in a decisive Indian victory.

The craters Brahmos missiles left on Pakistani airbases are still being repaired as we speak. Pakistani labour is right now having even tea with biscuit at that very site and you know that because you supplied the biscuits this morning. We saw that on our satellite. We have our eyes on you.

Can you see those 6 destroyed jets being glued together in your satellites? And what about the 700 million using your poverty hunger infested filthy third world country's land as an open defecation jameen? You were celebrating with humiliated fantastic chai sipping of your bloodied face wing commander and his destroyed jets so we know your standards :). Sanghis delusions and nationalism always gets served with embarrassment, just a natural course.

And this thread is on Venezuela, let go off India's humiliation within 4 days in this thread
 

Indian Embassy hired Trump aide’s firm for talks on trade, bilateral ties during Operation Sindoor​




According to FARA filings, lobby firm SHW was asked to schedule meetings for Foreign Minister S. Jaishankar, Foreign Secretary, and the Ambassador with U.S. Vice-President J.D. Vance, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, and CIA chief John Ratcliffe


The Indian Embassy in Washington reached out to three senior officials of the Trump administration on May 10, 2025, the day a ceasefire following Operation Sindoor was announced. It approached White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer, and Ricky Gill at the National Security Council to discuss “media coverage” of the conflict, says a filing by a U.S. lobby firm with the U.S. Department of Justice (DoJ). While the filing, including 60 entries made in December 2025 on the DoJ’s Foreign Agent Registration Act (FARA) website, does not divulge whether the calls were made before or after the ceasefire, they indicate close interaction on the day.




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