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A sincere question to Indians, what did your government achieve from "Operation Sindoor"?

“India took 14 days to respond to Pahalgam. We are in no hurry either.

Let the skies remain silent-for now. Let 21 airports stay closed for 21 days.

Let 21 cities be veiled in darkness.

Let millions feel the weight of uncertainty. Let our jets roar through the skies, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week-not to strike yet, but to strike terror and to remind.

This is not hesitation. This is calculation. This is not fear. This is control.

We will respond-when we choose. And when we do, the silence before the storm will seem like mercy.

Until then, let panic be their punishment.

Pakistan Zindabad”

 
HalBass9 said:
You are a terrorist when you suggest that your beliefs allow you to slaughter humans as a last option while you shop at an American grocery stores that sells beef.
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what is the Progress on the homework assignment ? Still stuck ? Need to repeat classes ? Don't be shy to ask
 
I hate commenting on this on a forum where everyone is so extreme but I'm back after a few drinks so my inhibitions are a bit lowered.

Whoever these 3-4 animals are that committed this Pahalgam atrocity have set the subcontinent back massively.

- Indian Kashmir is set back by atleast a 5 years possibly as much as a decade. Kashmiris may or may not have accepted life as part of India but from my personal experience had begun to see the futility of this struggle and begun to look beyond it. The loss of income from the collapse of tourism is going to hit hard. As an illustration, the houseboat guy I stayed with last year had just invested in a big renovation. I whatsapped with him and he's terrified for his living.

- Pakistan is set back 2-3 years. Massive costs from this war plus whatever minimal foreign investment there is has been scared away. I can't imagine anybody - even Chinese investors willing to risk such a volatile situation

- India is set back a year at minimum. There's a new nervousness among investors who were looking at India as an opportunity to diversify from China. I had a group who were looking at setting up a large GCC ($100m+ investment) in Pune indefinitely postpone their travel. Maybe they'll be back in 6 months. Maybe they won't.
 
Red-Indian said:
I hate commenting on this on a forum where everyone is so extreme but I'm back after a few drinks so my inhibitions are a bit lowered.

Whoever these 3-4 animals are that committed this Pahalgam atrocity have set the subcontinent back massively.

- Indian Kashmir is set back by atleast a 5 years possibly as much as a decade. Kashmiris may or may not have accepted life as part of India but from my personal experience had begun to see the futility of this struggle and begun to look beyond it. The loss of income from the collapse of tourism is going to hit hard. As an illustration, the houseboat guy I stayed with last year had just invested in a big renovation. I whatsapped with him and he's terrified for his living.

- Pakistan is set back 2-3 years. Massive costs from this war plus whatever minimal foreign investment there is has been scared away. I can't imagine anybody - even Chinese investors willing to risk such a volatile situation

- India is set back a year at minimum. There's a new nervousness among investors who were looking at India as an opportunity to diversify from China. I had a group who were looking at setting up a large GCC ($100m+ investment) in Pune indefinitely postpone their travel. Maybe they'll be back in 6 months. Maybe they won't.
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Psychological trauma for Kashmiris must be unbearable. They are constantly justifying their existence and have been subjected to considerable trauma.

I really feel for them.

It will take generations to recover. They deserve to be able to live with dignity.
 
Red-Indian said:
I hate commenting on this on a forum where everyone is so extreme but I'm back after a few drinks so my inhibitions are a bit lowered.

Whoever these 3-4 animals are that committed this Pahalgam atrocity have set the subcontinent back massively.

- Indian Kashmir is set back by atleast a 5 years possibly as much as a decade. Kashmiris may or may not have accepted life as part of India but from my personal experience had begun to see the futility of this struggle and begun to look beyond it. The loss of income from the collapse of tourism is going to hit hard. As an illustration, the houseboat guy I stayed with last year had just invested in a big renovation. I whatsapped with him and he's terrified for his living.

- Pakistan is set back 2-3 years. Massive costs from this war plus whatever minimal foreign investment there is has been scared away. I can't imagine anybody - even Chinese investors willing to risk such a volatile situation

- India is set back a year at minimum. There's a new nervousness among investors who were looking at India as an opportunity to diversify from China. I had a group who were looking at setting up a large GCC ($100m+ investment) in Pune indefinitely postpone their travel. Maybe they'll be back in 6 months. Maybe they won't.
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Who do you fault for this sad situation ? Where does the buck stop ? GHQ or Dilli or elsewhere ?
 
Red-Indian said:
I hate commenting on this on a forum where everyone is so extreme but I'm back after a few drinks so my inhibitions are a bit lowered.

Whoever these 3-4 animals are that committed this Pahalgam atrocity have set the subcontinent back massively.
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Its just not sensible to mount conventional responses to terrorist attacks against a nation state. First its just not very effective, the opponent is not an army to have their own Air defense assets , high value targets, high ranking generals etc

These are rag tag groups that operate out of civilian areas in makeshift camps. Unless you are taking out a few high value targets, most people there would be small fry low ranking militants or civilians. They just need very basic ammo and weaponry for carrying out attacks so not like you are crippling their ammo stocks

It can be argued that India wanted to send a message, but that message could be sent with one missile strike, something the other side can complain but has an off ramp. But with a large set of strikes, the pressure on Pakistan to retaliate was immense too. And now both sides are caught in an escalation cycle. there is no doubt Pakistan has more to lose in a conflict , but they also need to impose a high cost on India to prevent attacks like this in the future
 
Red-Indian said:
I hate commenting on this on a forum where everyone is so extreme but I'm back after a few drinks so my inhibitions are a bit lowered.

Whoever these 3-4 animals are that committed this Pahalgam atrocity have set the subcontinent back massively.

- Indian Kashmir is set back by atleast a 5 years possibly as much as a decade. Kashmiris may or may not have accepted life as part of India but from my personal experience had begun to see the futility of this struggle and begun to look beyond it. The loss of income from the collapse of tourism is going to hit hard. As an illustration, the houseboat guy I stayed with last year had just invested in a big renovation. I whatsapped with him and he's terrified for his living.

- Pakistan is set back 2-3 years. Massive costs from this war plus whatever minimal foreign investment there is has been scared away. I can't imagine anybody - even Chinese investors willing to risk such a volatile situation

- India is set back a year at minimum. There's a new nervousness among investors who were looking at India as an opportunity to diversify from China. I had a group who were looking at setting up a large GCC ($100m+ investment) in Pune indefinitely postpone their travel. Maybe they'll be back in 6 months. Maybe they won't.
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It's too late to go back to 47, 65, 71, obl, terrorist attacks it's now live war . India chose this by an act of war any nation would regard as. The deterrent has to match the seriousness of the attack . Both nations will remain in an active/dormant state of war now for a while . Pakistan had little investment and those will continue but india was on the verge of amassing huge amounts.

Indias attack in such a manner will go down in history as one of the most strategic failures of a developing nation . Let us know how it pans out in 6 months...
 
uppercut said:
Who do you fault for this sad situation ? Where does the buck stop ? GHQ or Dilli or elsewhere ?
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The fault lies in India's intelligence failure. The second fault lies in trying to claim Kashmir as an Indian territory and trying to change the demographic.

Kashmir is a disputed territory yet you want to promote tourism there. India's been building hotels there but not hospitals.

This is blatant disregard for the local indigenous population.
 
ElRaja said:
there is no war objective here, india wanted a quick win, a pr story to spin at home, instead their airforce brought them global embarrassment and now they are desperate to save face.
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Dont you know about the Pakistani F16 pilot India captured.

His name is Captain Adabuddin Janabuddin.
 
uppercut said:
Who do you fault for this sad situation ? Where does the buck stop ? GHQ or Dilli or elsewhere ?
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I don't know.

I suppose I am suspicious that Asim Munir seems to have gotten what he wanted from this. I noticed yesterday that for the first time in forever, Imran Khan seems to have slipped off the front page of Dawn. Even on this forum, he's an afterthought. Pakistan seems united behind it's military again.

However, suspicion is not proof and I would've chosen other methods of retaliation if we wanted to put the squeeze on Pakistan to cut off all support to these vile creatures irrespective of whether they directed this specific atrocity or not.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Psychological trauma for Kashmiris must be unbearable. They are constantly justifying their existence and have been subjected to considerable trauma.

I really feel for them.

It will take generations to recover. They deserve to be able to live with dignity.
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True. I talked to a lot of Kashmiris during my visit there last year. I had travelled in 2005 so I was returning after 20 years and I could see the difference.

I wouldn't say things were hunky dory - regular intrusive police checkpoints, a hugely visible army presence, massive numbers of non-locals and a lot of young Kashmiris looking to leave the Valley...for overseas preferably or at the very least for other Indian cities.

However, there was a sense they'd accepted the yoke so to speak. There's no sense in throwing yourself bloody against a wall endlessly. Similarly I suppose to other such areas like Northern Ireland, the Basques territories, the young guys I met had begun to look beyond.

Now...who knows? Not only will they be subject to harsher vigilance from the Indian State, they're facing artillery barrages from across the border. Plus they're faced with huge loss of livelihood.
 
Lol at the American thought process of bigging up India as a counter weight to China. After seeing India's military performance in 2019 and 2025, i think they will need to re-think.
 
Lets hope the vermilion is intact as Pakistan has vowed further escalation will lead to attacks in Bengaluru & Mumbai
 
Kianig89 said:
Lets hope the vermilion is intact as Pakistan has vowed further escalation will lead to attacks in Bengaluru & Mumbai
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Lol..first get those air bases repaired in Pakistan.. only 2 remain anyhow in pakistan
 
Modi boasted that the Raffale planes will be a game changes against Pakistan in a future air to air combat. France deep down will be feeling towards the country of India like "Naak Katwa dee tum logoan ne humari sab ke samne". Real winner in this conflict is China and their millitary technology.

As the movie top gun said, its not the plane alone, its the pilot.
 
Red-Indian said:
I hate commenting on this on a forum where everyone is so extreme but I'm back after a few drinks so my inhibitions are a bit lowered.

Whoever these 3-4 animals are that committed this Pahalgam atrocity have set the subcontinent back massively.

- Indian Kashmir is set back by atleast a 5 years possibly as much as a decade. Kashmiris may or may not have accepted life as part of India but from my personal experience had begun to see the futility of this struggle and begun to look beyond it. The loss of income from the collapse of tourism is going to hit hard. As an illustration, the houseboat guy I stayed with last year had just invested in a big renovation. I whatsapped with him and he's terrified for his living.

- Pakistan is set back 2-3 years. Massive costs from this war plus whatever minimal foreign investment there is has been scared away. I can't imagine anybody - even Chinese investors willing to risk such a volatile situation

- India is set back a year at minimum. There's a new nervousness among investors who were looking at India as an opportunity to diversify from China. I had a group who were looking at setting up a large GCC ($100m+ investment) in Pune indefinitely postpone their travel. Maybe they'll be back in 6 months. Maybe they won't.
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Have To agree. The barbarians who did Pahalgam caused this mess and have set subcontinent back.

Didn’t expect this much sense from someone who has drank some before speaking. Drive safe.
 
Pakistanis should watch this and understand the nature of the people that rule your country. The average pakistani lives in ignorance of these topics.

 
Robbie said:
Lol..first get those air bases repaired in Pakistan.. only 2 remain anyhow in pakistan
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Did you get those numbers from Godi media? And are you forgetting that our entire motorway system is built to be like a back up airbase?
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Oh, this can't possibly be true, after all, geniuses like @Robbie haven't confirmed it yet from outside India. :facepalm
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If you had kept up with the latest reports, you would have known that the cross border shellings and drone attacks at the border can cause this..
There are no fire clouds in the sky for India at this moment..
Do you even know where this is??
Just posting for brown nosing pakistanis at this point..disgusting
 
Robbie said:
If you had kept up with the latest reports, you would have known that the cross border shellings and drone attacks at the border can cause this..
There are no fire clouds in the sky for India at this moment..
Do you even know where this is??
Just posting for brown nosing pakistanis at this point..disgusting
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Do you even know where you are right now? What brown-nosing are you talking about? Just because I don't blindly believe everything Godi media says like you do, I am brown-nosing?
 
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Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Do you even know where you are right now? What brown-nosing are you talking about? Just because I don't blindly believe everything Godi media says like you do, I am brown-nosing?
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I don't believe in Godi media or any media.. I am as affected as any Indian or Pakistani as I am in India currently..
 
uppercut said:
I most certainly do but considering how you blindly trust your bum buddies its better you hear from the proverbial horses mouth who actually started it ... lol
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I started it? Not only do you lack comprehension skills but you also have a short term memory loss.You replied to my post in a conversation that didn't involve you.

Anyways this topic has brought out all sorts of Indian riff raff posters. Take off your saffron glasses and look at the reality. PAF just attacked your air bases today, even your army has admitted that. And now India is giving statements about de-escalating. Your government is starting to realize the deep hole it has dug and is now trying any measure to save face and get out of this somehow
 
RexRex said:
Pakistanis should watch this and understand the nature of the people that rule your country. The average pakistani lives in ignorance of these topics.

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Oh yea we're obsessed with India while it's India trying to blame Pakistan for everything that goes wrong there. Even started this war without any evidence of Pakistani links.

I wouldnt put too much weight on what these people say. Our public is very aware.

Not too long ago these very people were asking Pakistan to 'do more' in the war against terror.
 
MP2011 said:
Just like 9/11 was an inside job by CIA and 26/11 by RAW, right?
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After all the fake news Indian media has been exposed for disseminating I am surprised you are one of the few diehards still swallowing it wholesale to be honest. At least CIA know how to spin a realistic narrative. Indian attempts are pure comedy gold.
 
They achieved nothing. I hope once the dust is settled some tough questions are asked of Modi and Jaishankars. Why did you plunge us to the brink of nuclear war?
 
DeadlyVenom said:
They achieved nothing. I hope once the dust is settled some tough questions are asked of Modi and Jaishankars. Why did you plunge us to the brink of nuclear war?
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They managed to make Pakistan military and governance look semi competent. I am not sure that is a good thing from a Pakistan POV, but if it brings SHINING Indians down to earth a bit then at least some good will have come of it.
 
daytrader said:
I started it? Not only do you lack comprehension skills but you also have a short term memory loss.You replied to my post in a conversation that didn't involve you.
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And where did I say anything otherwise ? Go look at my responses to Captain bribery to get the context.

daytrader said:
Anyways this topic has brought out all sorts of Indian riff raff posters. Take off your saffron glasses and look at the reality. PAF just attacked your air bases today, even your army has admitted that. And now India is giving statements about de-escalating. Your government is starting to realize the deep hole it has dug and is now trying any measure to save face and get out of this somehow
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You might want to get your eyes and brains checked if they are in working order ... because as it stands India announced It would unilaterally strike Pak on the day Pehalgam happened and gave 2 weeks of time for your fauj to prep yet here you are counting Casualties and losses. Let that sink in.
 
uppercut said:
And where did I say anything otherwise ? Go look at my responses to Captain bribery to get the context.



You might want to get your eyes and brains checked if they are in working order ... because as it stands India announced It would unilaterally strike Pak on the day Pehalgam happened and gave 2 weeks of time for your fauj to prep yet here you are counting Casualties and losses. Let that sink in.
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Your only response was no response. You posted an essay on random historical complaints against Pakistan, when I asked you what any of it had to do with Pahalgam you had no answer. I can quote you again if you like, you can have another shot at it.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Yes, they have failed to respond appropriately to attack on mainland...otherwise ahead of Indians...may be we could see some response in coming days
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Bro, what do you think now? You mentioned an appropriate retaliation would happen in the coming days, but your army backed down just hours after naming the operation "Bunyan" :LOL:.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
Bro, what do you think now? You mentioned an appropriate retaliation would happen in the coming days, but your army backed down just hours after naming the operation "Bunyan" :LOL:.
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Have some shame. Sofiya admitted that much in the press conference yesterday. You can live in another parallel universe though.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
Bro, what do you think now? You mentioned an appropriate retaliation would happen in the coming days, but your army backed down just hours after naming the operation "Bunyan" :LOL:.
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Tbh, I was just thinking about reverting to this post...been so busy today...in short attack at 26 locations and mostly on mainland so issue resolved. Finally message conveyed...status quo restored.
 
OP sindoor was purely for domestic consumption and a shot across the bow to warn Pakistan . The actual perpetrators would have long gone by then hiding in some cave till the heat dies down.

Pakistan also attacked back and the subcontinent was a few days away from a full blown war. So I don't think the objectives were achieved. It just showed the risks of escalation
 
DeadlyVenom said:
They achieved nothing. I hope once the dust is settled some tough questions are asked of Modi and Jaishankars. Why did you plunge us to the brink of nuclear war?
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We destroyed pakistani terror infra and destroyed pakistani army assets including airbases and air defences of Pakistan..
Mission achieved😌
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Tbh, I was just thinking about reverting to this post...been so busy today...in short attack at 26 locations and mostly on mainland so issue resolved. Finally message conveyed...status quo restored.
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What are those 26 mainland attacks, and what damage did they actually cause? LOL. :yahoo
Even your Defence Minister admitted that nothing significant has been done in the past few days, and that you were still planning a response as of yesterday. Suddenly, the war is over. Where exactly did you guys attack those 26 mainland locations, and what are the casualties?


On the other hand, we killed around 30 people, including members of the Azhar terrorist family—as confirmed by your own government sources and even people who attended the funeral.


So, could you please provide a list of those 26 mainland targets and the actual damage done? Please dont provide trust.me.bro sources :ROFLMAO:
 
ahsan17 said:
Have some shame. Sofiya admitted that much in the press conference yesterday. You can live in another parallel universe though.
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We successfully launched a series of strikes inside your territory and killed as many as people. What you done?
Merely trying to defend and retaliate using Chinese made TikTok weapons and hundreds of turkish drones, most of which were intercepted, with debris found in cities near the border, causing little or no damage so far.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
We successfully launched a series of strikes inside your territory and killed as many as people. What you done?
Merely trying to defend and retaliate using Chinese made TikTok weapons and hundreds of turkish drones, most of which were intercepted, with debris found in cities near the border, causing little or no damage so far.
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Sofiya admitted what Pakistan did.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
We successfully launched a series of strikes inside your territory and killed as many as people. What you done?
Merely trying to defend and retaliate using Chinese made TikTok weapons and hundreds of turkish drones, most of which were intercepted, with debris found in cities near the border, causing little or no damage so far.
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Lol...don't know where you have been all day

https://twitter.com/x/status/1921084297638781294
 
Cover Drive Six said:
We successfully launched a series of strikes inside your territory and killed as many as people. What you done?
Merely trying to defend and retaliate using Chinese made TikTok weapons and hundreds of turkish drones, most of which were intercepted, with debris found in cities near the border, causing little or no damage so far.
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We have not seen any images of Turkish drones anywhere because your media are being controlled by your government, meanwhile Israeli junk is strewn all over Pakistan unfortunately. Your leader is an illiterate extremist, the sooner you accept it the more human you’ll become.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Lol...don't know where you have been all day

https://twitter.com/x/status/1921084297638781294
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LOL. All those so-called "targets" are in border areas, and most are in J&K, easily accessible for both India and Pakistan.
So are you seriously calling attacks on border states a huge victory?


On the other hand, we struck deep inside your territory, far from the border, and eliminated terrorist families. What significant damage have you caused, apart from dumping drones and getting them intercepted?
 
Cover Drive Six said:
LOL. All those so-called "targets" are in border areas, and most are in J&K, easily accessible for both India and Pakistan.
So are you seriously calling attacks on border states a huge victory?


On the other hand, we struck deep inside your territory, far from the border, and eliminated terrorist families. What significant damage have you caused, apart from dumping drones and getting them intercepted?
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Maybe Pak didn’t want to go that deep inside India to avoid little Pakistani running around in India.
 
Boyka said:
We have not seen any images of Turkish drones anywhere because your media are being controlled by your government, meanwhile Israeli junk is strewn all over Pakistan unfortunately. Your leader is an illiterate extremist, the sooner you accept it the more human you’ll become.
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Turkish junk debris is scattered all over the border areas, go see for yourself :ROFLMAO:
 
Cover Drive Six said:
Turkish junk debris is scattered all over the border areas, go see for yourself :ROFLMAO:
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I thought you to be a guy with open mind...please go visit what your own media and national officials keep reporting today...If you did then you won't ask for any further proofs. Above video included...
 
The Bald Eagle said:
I thought you to be a guy with open mind...please go visit what your own media and national officials keep reporting today...If you did then you won't ask for any further proofs. Above video included...
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I am an open-minded person and I don’t blindly believe the news outlets from either side, especially all the claims like "we shot down this missile or that drone." But I do believe your own government’s admission that the Indian Army entered your territory and killed around 40 people.


What I don’t understand is why that’s being celebrated as a victory?
 
Cover Drive Six said:
I am an open-minded person and I don’t blindly believe the news outlets from either side, especially all the claims like "we shot down this missile or that drone." But I do believe your own government’s admission that the Indian Army entered your territory and killed around 40 people.


What I don’t understand is why that’s being celebrated as a victory?
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Huh? Indian Army entered territory?
 
Cover Drive Six said:
I am an open-minded person and I don’t blindly believe the news outlets from either side, especially all the claims like "we shot down this missile or that drone." But I do believe your own government’s admission that the Indian Army entered your territory and killed around 40 people.


What I don’t understand is why that’s being celebrated as a victory?
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No one celebrating that and actually this time no indian crossed the border...atleast after rafale incident and don't want to mention losses at LOC. Although some non updated stats in post 2 of this thread
 
The biggest question is where are the men that started all of this?

They need to be brought to justice.

If you can't catch them then an operation (successful or not) looks like it's for domestic consumption more than anything else.
 
I genuinely don’t understand why any Pakistani still feels the need to engage with Pajeets. India has spiraled into delusion. Their media was always a circus, but now it’s a full blown national security threat.

They treat every piece of propaganda like it came from Arnab Goswami, but the world isn’t buying it. International media demands evidence, something neither their government, their press, nor even their loudest nationalists have ever been able to provide.

Pakistan didn’t just withstand the Hindutva onslaught, it exposed it. In real time, Pakistanis dismantled Indian propaganda with facts, and globally, not a single serious government or outlet endorsed India’s narrative.

It’s one thing when a fanatical government lies, but when the people start lying to themselves, that’s when the nation begins to rot from within.

India isn’t run by BJP or Congress. It’s run by the Hindutva. And for that choice, India will pay the price, not just in headlines today, but in history books for centuries to come.
 
kingusama92 said:
The biggest question is where are the men that started all of this?

They need to be brought to justice.

If you can't catch them then an operation (successful or not) looks like it's for domestic consumption more than anything else.
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A fear they may not do fake encounter of some innocents now disguising them as perpetrators
 
kingusama92 said:
The biggest question is where are the men that started all of this?

They need to be brought to justice.

If you can't catch them then an operation (successful or not) looks like it's for domestic consumption more than anything else.
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People who do the actual ops are usually small fry and expendable. They would be long gone if not caught by then.

Terror orgs are broken up by surveillance, targeting financing and going after the ring leaders. But those are not glamorous showy ops. The Indian government treats everything like a showy PR campaign. It works for domestic political issue but fell flat this time
 
Cover Drive Six said:
Turkish junk debris is scattered all over the border areas, go see for yourself :ROFLMAO:
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Is that right? Hasn’t your government told you to stay home and turn off the lights 😭. Meanwhile Pakistanis are in the open near airbases asking to fight and shooting down drones with their own guns. Keep crying
 
kingusama92 said:
The biggest question is where are the men that started all of this?

They need to be brought to justice.

If you can't catch them then an operation (successful or not) looks like it's for domestic consumption more than anything else.
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An even bigger question is why India didn't wait until they had some viable evidence that the terror attack stemmed from Pakistan. They have not presented anything, not even privately with other world leaders whom they trust to be impartial. That can be the only conclusion why they got no international support for their crazy adventures.
 
HalBass9 said:
I genuinely don’t understand why any Pakistani still feels the need to engage with Pajeets. India has spiraled into delusion. Their media was always a circus, but now it’s a full blown national security threat.

They treat every piece of propaganda like it came from Arnab Goswami, but the world isn’t buying it. International media demands evidence, something neither their government, their press, nor even their loudest nationalists have ever been able to provide.

Pakistan didn’t just withstand the Hindutva onslaught, it exposed it. In real time, Pakistanis dismantled Indian propaganda with facts, and globally, not a single serious government or outlet endorsed India’s narrative.

It’s one thing when a fanatical government lies, but when the people start lying to themselves, that’s when the nation begins to rot from within.

India isn’t run by BJP or Congress. It’s run by the Hindutva. And for that choice, India will pay the price, not just in headlines today, but in history books for centuries to come.
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Well said.

India is now an extremist country. It is like ISIS running a country. If this trajectory continues, India's decline and balkanization is a possibility in the long run.

I also feel it is a complete waste of time to engage with majority of the Indian posters here (bhakts particularly).

You can have meaningful debates with white supremacists and Christian apologists. But, debate with bhakts is simply not possible. They are disrespectful; they are stupid; they are misinformed; they are thick; they are brainwashed.

:inti:inti
 
Brilliant and cunning master plan by Pak Fauj to get the love of Pakistani awaam again :LOL:

India fell for it.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
An even bigger question is why India didn't wait until they had some viable evidence that the terror attack stemmed from Pakistan.
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Yeah because Pakistan is such a innocent "as pure and pristine as a snow-white dove" that would not even think of harming a fly as can be seen by its "Glorious" past track record from Day1 ? (lets not even think of hurting a Nuclear armed nation ... I suppose. )

Thats the only logical deduction that one can deduce based on your posts.

As I said these are all issues of mad people with a Moral compass wired completely upside down. Absolute lunacy.
 
One must also ask what their 'surgical strikes' have ever achieved?

2016 drama where they did nothing, led to 2019 where they attempted to do something and got humiliated, led to 2025.

In all 3 cases Indians will claim they attack 'camps' and 'terror infastructure'. As if hundreds of thousands of right-wing organisation members or militant groups live in 2 houses to be destroyed. What do these pointless 'raids' achieve? And how has it stopped anything? Even if we believe their cock and bull story, it didn't stop 'terrorists' all 3 times. So what does this pointless drama achieve?
 
gazza619 said:
Brilliant and cunning master plan by Pak Fauj to get the love of Pakistani awaam again :LOL:
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If that's true, it is disturbing how easily the pakistani awaam are fooled into supporting their army.

The same rogue army that's thrown all of Pak's civilian leaders into jail, one time or another. Everybody's forgotten about poor Imran Khan. Bizarre.
 
Aang_The_last_airbender said:
We got out of IWT, what did the Pak awaam get?
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IWT is not an easy treaty to get out of. Building new dams takes many years. There are some measures like desilting but all have limited effect.

You can't just stop or reroute rivers without building new infrastructure. Maybe India will start construction now but they cant just do if overnight
 
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