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I have been to every Day/Night Test ever played at Adelaide.

The matches have been completely different to the Day/Night Tests at Brisbane and at Dubai and at Birmingham and at Bridgetown and at Kolkata.

The Australian Pink Kookaburra is not a very robust ball. A few days before the inaugural Pink Ball Test at Adelaide, the touring Kiwis played a Pink Ball daytime match against a Cricket Australia XI at Blacktown outside Sydney. The game was abandoned after 121 overs with the Aussies 503-1 wicket.

Three weeks later, just before the first Day/Night Test, a dress rehearsal at Perth saw more huge scores.

The problem was that like all Kookaburras the Pink ball has a pathetic machine-stitched seam, but the ball itself become soft and lifeless like a rag doll and cannot be swung, seamed or spun.

So Cricket Australia and Kookaburra accidentally came upon an emergency plan for the first Adelaide Test that worked so well that it has been repeated twice since. The Emergency Plan was - and is......

1. The curator leaves the outfield lush and green. There is no reverse swing (except one suspicious spell before Sandpapergate in the Ashes) but the ball remains harder and less damaged.

2. The pitch itself is left with a thick covering of grass. Again, this keeps the ball newer and harder.

3. The ball has several additional coats of varnish added to ensure that it stays undamaged for longer.

The consequences have been clear for all to see:

Year 1 match scores
202
224
208
187-7
(Highest match score of 66)

Year 2 match scores
259-9d
383
250
127-3
(3 centuries)

Year 3 match scores
442-8d
227
138
233
(1 century)

In other words, in 12 innings there has been:
1. One single innings score over 390.
2. Eight completed innings lower than 260

The Curator at Australia's other Day/Night ground, in Brisbane, has experimented with removing all the grass, but in doing so he turned Wahab Riaz and Yasir Shah into Sachin Tendulkar and Virat Kohli.

The Adelaide matches have been gripping cricket, but the argument of purists is that they "are not real Test cricket". This is based upon factors such as the most dangerous time to bat being immediately after Dinner against a New Ball.

This famously led FAF Du Plessis to bat on after Dinner on Day 1 when his team was 165-7. They managed to resist the old ball in the difficult period and reached 259-9 by the time he declared, but the damage was done - he allowed Australia to score their runs in daylight the next day. Even when the second new ball came, it was too late - it was halfway through the final session on Day 2 when the danger hour had passed.

The question now is whether the same formula will be used for Pakistan in 2019-20, especially with the New Zealanders playing a Day/Night Test at Perth just a fortnight later.

Ultimately it's true, it is not conventional Test cricket.

But it's very similar to the old 60 over red Dukes Ball ODIs which were played in England until around 1990.

There is a slip cordon like Test cricket.

There is conventional (not reverse) swing and there is seam movement, and there is bounce for the spin bowlers.

There is only on average a single century scored per Test.

But there are specific tactics required. If you start batting when play begins after Lunch you need to score 100 by Tea and 240 by Dinner, and then you need to declare to enable your bowlers to use the New Ball in the Danger Hour after Dinner.

Unlike everywhere else in Australia, quick bowlers don't need to be tall or quick. Just accurate, and able to bowl a full length and hit the seam.

As FAF du Plessis learned, the extra runs from 165-7 at Dinner to 259-9 at the declaration were worthless, because they deprived his bowlers of the conditions straight after Dinner that they required to remove the opposition's top order.

That's a pretty strange lesson for a Test captain. It's counter-intuitive to declare at 165-7 rather than reach 259-9.

But if the grass is still as long at Adelaide this Friday, and if the Pink Kookaburra is still carrying extra levels of varnish, it's exactly what Azhar Ali and Tim Paine need to be prepared to do.
 
I have been to every Day/Night Test ever played at Adelaide.

The matches have been completely different to the Day/Night Tests at Brisbane and at Dubai and at Birmingham and at Bridgetown and at Kolkata.

The Australian Pink Kookaburra is not a very robust ball. A few days before the inaugural Pink Ball Test at Adelaide, the touring Kiwis played a Pink Ball daytime match against a Cricket Australia XI at Blacktown outside Sydney. The game was abandoned after 121 overs with the Aussies 503-1 wicket.

Three weeks later, just before the first Day/Night Test, a dress rehearsal at Perth saw more huge scores.

The problem was that like all Kookaburras the Pink ball has a pathetic machine-stitched seam, but the ball itself become soft and lifeless like a rag doll and cannot be swung, seamed or spun.

So Cricket Australia and Kookaburra accidentally came upon an emergency plan for the first Adelaide Test that worked so well that it has been repeated twice since. The Emergency Plan was - and is......

1. The curator leaves the outfield lush and green. There is no reverse swing (except one suspicious spell before Sandpapergate in the Ashes) but the ball remains harder and less damaged.

2. The pitch itself is left with a thick covering of grass. Again, this keeps the ball newer and harder.

3. The ball has several additional coats of varnish added to ensure that it stays undamaged for longer.

The consequences have been clear for all to see:

Year 1 match scores
202
224
208
187-7
(Highest match score of 66)

Year 2 match scores
259-9d
383
250
127-3
(3 centuries)

Year 3 match scores
442-8d
227
138
233
(1 century)

In other words, in 12 innings there has been:
1. One single innings score over 390.
2. Eight completed innings lower than 260

The Curator at Australia's other Day/Night ground, in Brisbane, has experimented with removing all the grass, but in doing so he turned Wahab Riaz and Yasir Shah into Sachin Tendulkar and Virat Kohli.

The Adelaide matches have been gripping cricket, but the argument of purists is that they "are not real Test cricket". This is based upon factors such as the most dangerous time to bat being immediately after Dinner against a New Ball.

This famously led FAF Du Plessis to bat on after Dinner on Day 1 when his team was 165-7. They managed to resist the old ball in the difficult period and reached 259-9 by the time he declared, but the damage was done - he allowed Australia to score their runs in daylight the next day. Even when the second new ball came, it was too late - it was halfway through the final session on Day 2 when the danger hour had passed.

The question now is whether the same formula will be used for Pakistan in 2019-20, especially with the New Zealanders playing a Day/Night Test at Perth just a fortnight later.

Ultimately it's true, it is not conventional Test cricket.

But it's very similar to the old 60 over red Dukes Ball ODIs which were played in England until around 1990.

There is a slip cordon like Test cricket.

There is conventional (not reverse) swing and there is seam movement, and there is bounce for the spin bowlers.

There is only on average a single century scored per Test.

But there are specific tactics required. If you start batting when play begins after Lunch you need to score 100 by Tea and 240 by Dinner, and then you need to declare to enable your bowlers to use the New Ball in the Danger Hour after Dinner.

Unlike everywhere else in Australia, quick bowlers don't need to be tall or quick. Just accurate, and able to bowl a full length and hit the seam.

As FAF du Plessis learned, the extra runs from 165-7 at Dinner to 259-9 at the declaration were worthless, because they deprived his bowlers of the conditions straight after Dinner that they required to remove the opposition's top order.

That's a pretty strange lesson for a Test captain. It's counter-intuitive to declare at 165-7 rather than reach 259-9.

But if the grass is still as long at Adelaide this Friday, and if the Pink Kookaburra is still carrying extra levels of varnish, it's exactly what Azhar Ali and Tim Paine need to be prepared to do.

A team led by Misbah will never be able to do such a thing.
 
I have been to every Day/Night Test ever played at Adelaide.

The matches have been completely different to the Day/Night Tests at Brisbane and at Dubai and at Birmingham and at Bridgetown and at Kolkata.

The Australian Pink Kookaburra is not a very robust ball. A few days before the inaugural Pink Ball Test at Adelaide, the touring Kiwis played a Pink Ball daytime match against a Cricket Australia XI at Blacktown outside Sydney. The game was abandoned after 121 overs with the Aussies 503-1 wicket.

Three weeks later, just before the first Day/Night Test, a dress rehearsal at Perth saw more huge scores.

The problem was that like all Kookaburras the Pink ball has a pathetic machine-stitched seam, but the ball itself become soft and lifeless like a rag doll and cannot be swung, seamed or spun.

So Cricket Australia and Kookaburra accidentally came upon an emergency plan for the first Adelaide Test that worked so well that it has been repeated twice since. The Emergency Plan was - and is......

1. The curator leaves the outfield lush and green. There is no reverse swing (except one suspicious spell before Sandpapergate in the Ashes) but the ball remains harder and less damaged.

2. The pitch itself is left with a thick covering of grass. Again, this keeps the ball newer and harder.

3. The ball has several additional coats of varnish added to ensure that it stays undamaged for longer.

The consequences have been clear for all to see:

Year 1 match scores
202
224
208
187-7
(Highest match score of 66)

Year 2 match scores
259-9d
383
250
127-3
(3 centuries)

Year 3 match scores
442-8d
227
138
233
(1 century)

In other words, in 12 innings there has been:
1. One single innings score over 390.
2. Eight completed innings lower than 260

The Curator at Australia's other Day/Night ground, in Brisbane, has experimented with removing all the grass, but in doing so he turned Wahab Riaz and Yasir Shah into Sachin Tendulkar and Virat Kohli.

The Adelaide matches have been gripping cricket, but the argument of purists is that they "are not real Test cricket". This is based upon factors such as the most dangerous time to bat being immediately after Dinner against a New Ball.

This famously led FAF Du Plessis to bat on after Dinner on Day 1 when his team was 165-7. They managed to resist the old ball in the difficult period and reached 259-9 by the time he declared, but the damage was done - he allowed Australia to score their runs in daylight the next day. Even when the second new ball came, it was too late - it was halfway through the final session on Day 2 when the danger hour had passed.

The question now is whether the same formula will be used for Pakistan in 2019-20, especially with the New Zealanders playing a Day/Night Test at Perth just a fortnight later.

Ultimately it's true, it is not conventional Test cricket.

But it's very similar to the old 60 over red Dukes Ball ODIs which were played in England until around 1990.

There is a slip cordon like Test cricket.

There is conventional (not reverse) swing and there is seam movement, and there is bounce for the spin bowlers.

There is only on average a single century scored per Test.

But there are specific tactics required. If you start batting when play begins after Lunch you need to score 100 by Tea and 240 by Dinner, and then you need to declare to enable your bowlers to use the New Ball in the Danger Hour after Dinner.

Unlike everywhere else in Australia, quick bowlers don't need to be tall or quick. Just accurate, and able to bowl a full length and hit the seam.

As FAF du Plessis learned, the extra runs from 165-7 at Dinner to 259-9 at the declaration were worthless, because they deprived his bowlers of the conditions straight after Dinner that they required to remove the opposition's top order.

That's a pretty strange lesson for a Test captain. It's counter-intuitive to declare at 165-7 rather than reach 259-9.

But if the grass is still as long at Adelaide this Friday, and if the Pink Kookaburra is still carrying extra levels of varnish, it's exactly what Azhar Ali and Tim Paine need to be prepared to do.

A fantastic response to the recent critics who were dismissing this theory, but as expected they were oblivious to these facts. POTW for me.
 
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Give it a rest champ. Your theory will never be implemented in practice and it never should be. The team batting first should be looking to somehow bat for 5 sessions and then send the other team in under lights with 500+ on the board
 
Give it a rest champ. Your theory will never be implemented in practice and it never should be. The team batting first should be looking to somehow bat for 5 sessions and then send the other team in under lights with 500+ on the board

Mark my words his theory will backfire.
 
Mark my words his theory will backfire.

There will never be an opportunity for it to backfire since no captain will be foolish enough to declare after 60 overs with a first innings score of 250.

The only way we might be able to ever see it tested is if a team happens to be dismissed in 60 overs and is forced to bowl in the 3rd session.
 
This getting repetitive and boring. Pakistan doesn't have the calibre to control a match situation like that least of all in Australia, all of this looks good on paper and that's that. Imagine the backlash if they try this method and it backfires spectacularly, players and coaches will be scarred for life and many careers will end in a disgraceful manner, allegations of fixing will be talk of town especially in Pakistani media. Besides 3 is too small a sample size to draw conclusions or theorize, can we observe a trend (if applicable) based on 3 matches? Come on, be realistic.
 
I will copy paste a part of my post from another thread because it is more relevant here:

There is no doubt that the first half of the post-dinner session is the toughest time to bat in a D/N Test, but you cannot bet on it by settling for a below-par total. If your strategy is only going to work if the opposition lineup collapses in a heap, then it is not a valid strategy.

9/10 times, you will not be reducing the other team to 50/5 no matter how strong your bowling is and how weak their batting is. Besides, Pakistan has a weak bowling attack and its best chance of winning the Test is by batting first and putting a formidable total on the board, which is what we failed to do in Brisbane.

This theory of declaring on day 1 after 50 overs can work for a team like Australia against Pakistan, but what would work even better? Australia declaring after 50 overs on day 2 after putting a formidable total after batting for 140 overs.

It won’t be easier to bat in the twilight on day 2, but in this case, you will have 450 runs on the board instead of 250. If you reduce the opposition to 100/4 in the post-dinner session after scoring 450, you have pretty much won the game.

However, if you reduce them to 100/4 after declaring on 250 on day 1, the game is still in the balance because one partnership in the first session on day 2 can negate your first innings score.

Unless you have the bowling attack than can consistently knock 5 down in the post-dinner session every game - which no team can - this strategy will backfire more often than not.

If we consider the results of all the D/N Tests so far, we can derive the following conclusion: the fundamentals of both red ball and pink ball cricket are actually identical.

A captain who declares after 60 overs on day 1 and goes on to win the match will look like a genius. However, if he goes on to lose the match, while is the more likely outcome, he is going to look like a complete idiot.

Hence, no captain is foolish or reckless enough to try this strategy, and Misbah and Azhar are the last two people on earth who would even contemplate it.
 
I'd say 60 overs is pushing it. I'd go for 75 overs with a 300+ total on the board.

A good opportunity to pick up 3-4 wickets in the last 15 overs with the new ball under the lights against the opposition, who have been out fielding all day.

I agree with the fundamentals of Junaids' theory. There is merit on both sides of this argument. Personally, I think batting for 90 overs on a pitch that is assisting bowlers against the pink ball is a waste.

I think we all need to see the light (pun intended) of a Day/Night test in Adelaide.
 
I'd say 60 overs is pushing it. I'd go for 75 overs with a 300+ total on the board.

A good opportunity to pick up 3-4 wickets in the last 15 overs with the new ball under the lights against the opposition, who have been out fielding all day.

I agree with the fundamentals of Junaids' theory. There is merit on both sides of this argument. Personally, I think batting for 90 overs on a pitch that is assisting bowlers against the pink ball is a waste.

I think we all need to see the light (pun intended) of a Day/Night test in Adelaide.
No offence, my friend, but you have just fallen into the same trap that FAF fell into.

The final hour is pitch black. Batting is easy. Declare after 75 overs and the opposition will close at 35-0 after 13 overs.

The fifth hour is when batting is fiendishly difficult. The sun is setting and the proportion of natural versus artificial light is changing every thirty seconds. The ground has a huge grandstand at one end and is entirely open at the other, and batsmen struggle to adapt to the unstable conditions.

The combination of a new ball and the Danger Hour after dinner can transform mediocre quick bowlers into match winners.

You just don’t want to squander the new ball on good batting conditions.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]
Adelaide and Birmingham are the only two Late Sunset venues to have hosted Pink Ball Tests.

And Adelaide is the only one where the Curator protects the ball by preparing a greentop.

As I said, in both Test and Sheffield Shield Pink Ball Day/Nighters at Adelaide the fundamentals are NOT the same as other Test cricket - they are the same fundamentals as old 60 overs ODI’s.

Just a two innings version of it.

There have been 12 Day/Night Test innings at Adelaide.

And only two lasted long enough to go past 65 overs.

Maybe this year the ball will be less lethal or the pitch will have less grass on it.

But if it’s the same as usual, this is a 60 over per side format.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]
Adelaide and Birmingham are the only two Late Sunset venues to have hosted Pink Ball Tests.

And Adelaide is the only one where the Curator protects the ball by preparing a greentop.

As I said, in both Test and Sheffield Shield Pink Ball Day/Nighters at Adelaide the fundamentals are NOT the same as other Test cricket - they are the same fundamentals as old 60 overs ODI’s.

Just a two innings version of it.

There have been 12 Day/Night Test innings at Adelaide.

And only two lasted long enough to go past 65 overs.

Maybe this year the ball will be less lethal or the pitch will have less grass on it.

But if it’s the same as usual, this is a 60 over per side format.

I repeat - no captain can be foolish enough to declare after 60 overs when he still has 3-4 wickets in hand.

If you are 200/6 in 60 overs and you declare, you can easily lose the game unless you get the opposition 100/7 in the remaining 30 overs, which is extremely risky.

However, if the opposition is even 100-4, they can bat in the sunlight tomorrow and add 150 runs to bat you out of the game.

If you are 200/6 in 60 overs, you would back your lower-order and tail to play their part and stretch the innings as far as possible, to maximize your chances of winning.

Declaring after 60 overs on day 1 doesn’t maximize your chances of winning. On the contrary, it maximizes your chance of losing because if the opposition batting lineup doesn’t fall like a deck of cards in the post-dinner session, you are gone.

Theoretically, this 60 over strategy can only work if you bat ultra-aggressively and try to score 300-350 in 60 overs. Practically it cannot work because it is very hard to score that quickly in Tests.

The opposition captain and bowlers will start deploying negative fields and negative lines, plus it will enhance the chances of collapsing in a heap.

Pink ball Test cricket is not as frenzy and chaotic as you make it to be. It is still Test cricket and the pink ball and the floodlights don’t make it a new format.

The fundamental are still the same. The team that bats first will look to score around 400 runs and hope to bat for about 5 sessions.

Batting in the post-dinner session is tough, but it is even tougher on day 2 when you have to cope with the scoreboard pressure as well.

Any lineup would prefer to bat in the post-dinner session on day 1 when the opposition has 200 on the board, instead of on day 2 when the opposition has 400+.

If it is a green-top then the team batting first would settle for around 300, but they still won’t declare after 60 overs. No one will do that because it is an extremely risky tactic that would backfire more often than not.

Any captain who declares after 60 overs when he has wickets in hand and ends up losing would be worthy of getting sacked.
 
I repeat - no captain can be foolish enough to declare after 60 overs when he still has 3-4 wickets in hand.

If you are 200/6 in 60 overs and you declare, you can easily lose the game unless you get the opposition 100/7 in the remaining 30 overs, which is extremely risky.

However, if the opposition is even 100-4, they can bat in the sunlight tomorrow and add 150 runs to bat you out of the game.

If you are 200/6 in 60 overs, you would back your lower-order and tail to play their part and stretch the innings as far as possible, to maximize your chances of winning.

Declaring after 60 overs on day 1 doesn’t maximize your chances of winning. On the contrary, it maximizes your chance of losing because if the opposition batting lineup doesn’t fall like a deck of cards in the post-dinner session, you are gone.

Theoretically, this 60 over strategy can only work if you bat ultra-aggressively and try to score 300-350 in 60 overs. Practically it cannot work because it is very hard to score that quickly in Tests.

The opposition captain and bowlers will start deploying negative fields and negative lines, plus it will enhance the chances of collapsing in a heap.

Pink ball Test cricket is not as frenzy and chaotic as you make it to be. It is still Test cricket and the pink ball and the floodlights don’t make it a new format.

The fundamental are still the same. The team that bats first will look to score around 400 runs and hope to bat for about 5 sessions.

Batting in the post-dinner session is tough, but it is even tougher on day 2 when you have to cope with the scoreboard pressure as well.

Any lineup would prefer to bat in the post-dinner session on day 1 when the opposition has 200 on the board, instead of on day 2 when the opposition has 400+.

If it is a green-top then the team batting first would settle for around 300, but they still won’t declare after 60 overs. No one will do that because it is an extremely risky tactic that would backfire more often than not.

Any captain who declares after 60 overs when he has wickets in hand and ends up losing would be worthy of getting sacked.

The last pink ball test in Adelaide is testament to your assertion that the fundamentals of test match batting remain the same.

Australia batted first and lost only two wickets in the post-dinner session on Day 1, which allowed them to get more than 400 in the first innings. England proceeded to crumble on Day 3 well before the twilight session.

Only a complete imbecile would bet his house on being able to blow away the opposition batting order in one hour of play i.e. 12-13 overs, given that batting becomes considerably easier once the artificial lights take effect.
 
The last pink ball test in Adelaide is testament to your assertion that the fundamentals of test match batting remain the same.

Australia batted first and lost only two wickets in the post-dinner session on Day 1, which allowed them to get more than 400 in the first innings. England proceeded to crumble on Day 3 well before the twilight session.

Only a complete imbecile would bet his house on being able to blow away the opposition batting order in one hour of play i.e. 12-13 overs, given that batting becomes considerably easier once the artificial lights take effect.

Absolutely. In fact, every D/N Test so far has proved that it is no different to traditional Test cricket. Junaids has firm belief in this theories even whey then are disproved or are not backed by evidence, for example the theory of selecting spinners for their batting in Australia.

Nevertheless, it is always a pleasure to hear his unique take on the game. He is a fountain of knowledge but his mind works in a unique way.
 
You CANNOT pin a 6 and a half hour a day game to 1 hour in the day and that too only with a NEW ball.

Wake up !!!
 
Absolutely. In fact, every D/N Test so far has proved that it is no different to traditional Test cricket. Junaids has firm belief in this theories even whey then are disproved or are not backed by evidence, for example the theory of selecting spinners for their batting in Australia.

Nevertheless, it is always a pleasure to hear his unique take on the game. He is a fountain of knowledge but his mind works in a unique way.

I agree with that. He's one of the best posters here because even when he is trolling, he challenges one to pause and think.
 
Well Australia have put up an ODI score in 60 overs.








But have only lost 1 wicket.
 
Well Australia have put up an ODI score in 60 overs.








But have only lost 1 wicket.

I was thinking the same thing!

Really, a two man attack?
I know that Misbah hates all-rounders, but picking Yasir Shah in Australia plus Musa?
 
I was thinking the same thing!

Really, a two man attack?
I know that Misbah hates all-rounders, but picking Yasir Shah in Australia plus Musa?

Faheem and Shadab would have been humiliated as well. You need to accept something - Pakistan’s bowling is a joke regardless of the combination.
 
Faheem and Shadab would have been humiliated as well. You need to accept something - Pakistan’s bowling is a joke regardless of the combination.

No, Shadab would have been a bigger disaster than Yasir - Shah guy at least took Smith 7 times. Shadab will go at T20 rate on that Adelaide ground with 60 metre boundary. Faheem won’t have done much better than Musa either, but playing both means PAK tail starting from 7.
 
Faheem and Shadab would have been humiliated as well. You need to accept something - Pakistan’s bowling is a joke regardless of the combination.

Why is is that our bowling attack is so bad since 2017? Saw your post on how teams are always 200/1 and I agree, but why has this been a relatively recent problem?
 
Faheem and Shadab would have been humiliated as well. You need to accept something - Pakistan’s bowling is a joke regardless of the combination.

A pace attack led by Faheem Ashraf and supported by Shameen Gul, Ehsan Adil, Taj Wali, and Mohammad Talha would have given the Ozzies a run for their money. Pakistan never loses a game due to lack of talent but loses only due to poor team selection or mindset - e.g. accepting mediocrity or not valuing test cricket.
 
Anyone would think Shadab was as good as shane warne and fahim the next imran khan the way junaids goes on about them.
 
I have been to every Day/Night Test ever played at Adelaide.

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There is only on average a single century scored per Test.

But there are specific tactics required. If you start batting when play begins after Lunch you need to score 100 by Tea and 240 by Dinner, and then you need to declare to enable your bowlers to use the New Ball in the Danger Hour after Dinner.

Looks like Australia missed a huge trick by not declaring at Dinner - they would have had Pakistan all out by now! Tch tch tch.
 
Why is is that our bowling attack is so bad since 2017? Saw your post on how teams are always 200/1 and I agree, but why has this been a relatively recent problem?

It is not a recent problem. Our fast bowling has been below average for many, many years. Things looked temporarily good because of the purple patches of Hasan and Abbas.
 
I was thinking the same thing!

Really, a two man attack?
I know that Misbah hates all-rounders, but picking Yasir Shah in Australia plus Musa?

What would you think of the Captain who wanted to bowl first here.. .. What would happen to him if he put Aus in and the Aussie captain followed your strategy.. . ..
 
Do you realize that what you have said is very realistic?

Could be, but no sane captain will take such a risk on such possibilities - given there are 4 more days, they would like to pile on the misery and given Pakistan's propensity to lose it in the first innings, there is no reason to take chances when a sure-shot result is staring them in the face.
 
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