This is the danger of relying exclusively on ChatGPT. Anyone can define the term as they want. I haven't talked about or passed judgement on whether it is good or bad. ChatGPT has this issue where it makes up things. It is called AI garbage so I understand the gaps in your understanding and reasoning.
I’m saying very clearly you don’t even need to go as far as Godse, Pragya Sadhvi is a terrorist and she mentioned Hinduism.. Godse if anything is a random but Pragya sadvi is as religious as it gets…
Better to be a second class citizen than a third class citizen in a country..
This 2nd wife is probably a gold digger who only married Rashid for his money.
I know what you said about Pragya Sadhvi
I don't know or care about what you are debating but be warned that "Lord" uses only ChatGPT for his posts.
dont think you know the extent of the atrocities committed by the Spanish empire. It is a very sad read, even though mongol empire was barbaric as well
All those words are written by his brother’s saying that was his brother’s (Godse’s) defense..there is no original document of the 1948 case available online…
Trust me no one is better here but only one empire killed so many that global warming got reduced and that is Mongols, Spanish were definitely more torturous..Portuguese equally bad
yes so its his brother’s books being used to quote him..is what I’m saying but on the important point I do think there are folks that use Hinduism to create terror..
My argument is simply this:
How primitive is stone and fire worship???
ChatGpt or Copilot bro?
Aren't you a Muslim?
The practice of sati is primitive, polygamy in Hinduism is primitive..
My religion is none of your business, and also has nothing to do with the opinions I'm expressing which are based on common sense and having a working brain.
Society need to be progressive and yes constitution and politics plays a part in it.. religion overall will remain regressive because it was made years ago(any religion) for a society in that time.
If it’s legal to stone a woman to death or burn her with her dead husband will there be no point to talk about it?
Thanks. I take it you are not one.
Let's assume I am. What does that change?Thanks. I take it you are not one.
Go and listen to Engineer Mirza and a number of other scholars. All have talked about it. Depends on sunnay and smjhne wala now
Stoning is not same as taking 2nd wife. Apples and Oranges. You can talk about both. But both are not same when it comes to wrongfulness.
Posters need to read up about multiple wives is Islam.
Well, it means you are not in agreement with Islam allowing multiple(4) wives.
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Yes because Taliban is known to uphold human rights for women.As long as all parties involved are fine and the law of the nation they reside is also okay, it should not be a problem.
True , Taliban will definitely implement transparency in Afghan society
That's not the point I'm making. I can't believe an international player like Rashid would coerce anyone into such a partnership.
Any law left to interpretation esp one as big as this will lead humans to mis utilise it esp under societies or rulers that don't uphold even basic women rights for this century.
What is the point of this post of yours?
I can try to be hopeful but will be the worst role model for his country men if he got a second wife within 18 months
This may come as a shock to you, but some people are not religious. There is some pretty considerable room between being a devout Muslim and being an atheist. Not saying I'm either.Well, it means you are not in agreement with Islam allowing multiple(4) wives.
You cannot compare Hinduism with Islam.
Please post evidence that the woman was coerced into a partnership?
I said there's no evidence that anyone was coerced. I was supporting Rashid.
My man, you are in the same boat as me then. You choose the life you want to live.
@LordJames cannot believe Indians are supporting Rashid's 2nd marriage. He jumped the gun in a hurry
Amen brotherMy man, you are in the same boat as me then. You choose the life you want to live.
I’m not comparing I’m equating them , you can choose to think the ones who implement laws based on Hinduism, Islam are different just like Pakistanis or other Muslims do but to me end of the day they are men making patriarchal and regressive societies for them to control.
Where to put hands while praying is not same as marrying multiple wives. I believe all schools of thought consider polygamy legal in Sunni Islam.Absolutely incorrect.
Islam has lots of room for interpretation and that's there are different schools of Jurisprudence e.g. Hanafi, Shaf'ae, Maliki, Hanbali, Dhahiri and they are nothing but differences in interpretations, to give you an example here are the rough differences on where to tie hands during prayer (Namaz) in Islam.
Just where to place hands in prayer...
Polygamy is a matter which is permissible in Islam, not forced, not required, not mandatory, just like it is permissible in many other regions and beliefs and the status will remain the same forever.
President Zuma with his wives:
Let me put it this way.. I’m condemning the practice of it ,would for Polyandry as well.
Where to put hands while praying is not same as marrying multiple wives. I believe all schools of thought consider polygamy legal in Sunni Islam.
ps - Jacob Zuma is a handsome beast. He can pull any number of women he wants.
Government shouldn’t allow polygamy or polyandry.
Sorry but what does Bill Clinton have to do with this?
Some poster implied if Bill clinton could marry Lewinski ..he wouldn't be a cheater but just polygamous
OK I don't know about that. That's not my line of argument at all.
I think you are based in Texas and it is prevalent in your own backyard and openly practiced. Polygamy is more common in everyday American Muslims (of all ethnicities) then Middle East but as I said not only you guy don't understand Islam you also have no desire to understand it.
Because I’ll not use a sample size to create a law, second if they are polygamous in Texas , it’s against the law.
I’ll not try to understand tax evasion like I’ll not try to understand any religious practice that is regressive for a society, just like you don’t want to understand other side of it.
No!
Exactly!
I have said it before I’ll say it again: J have nothing against Islam, I’ll not try to understand regressive practices of Hinduism/Sikhism or Indian Culture either..No!
Tax evasion is illegal and will land you in prison.
Having multiple relationships isn't illegal and will not land you in any prison in America, might you get a divorce if you are hiding it
You know that but you will keep on arguing because your mission is to not accept that it is a matter which is permissible in Islam and you will hide behind Liberal/Secular arguments to take digs at Islam.
As I have said, not only do you not understand Islam, you actively go out of your way to block any attempt to even understand what is being said to you.
Exactly!
These people have no concept of Islam or Polygamy, never sat in front of a potential spouse who already knows you are married to someone she also knows you are meeting someone for a relationship and then:
- You discuss your children and her children
- Living Arrangement and Transport to State X and State Y
- Days, Money
As I said, a Muslim Brother married a Cancer patient twice his age and they are probably not sexually active, this woman cannot even sit in comfort properly let alone provide any physical comfort to a man at all, he simply did this due to his Islam and its his wife who forced him to marry her!
I do not expect "Non-Muslims" or even "Muslims" to understand any of this as to why aWould go through this when they have a perfectly well settled home and family and children and careers (both)
This brother has taken on additional work, effort and responsibility with no apparent gain whatsoever from a Liberal/Secular point of view.
In summary, Polygamy is permissible even when someone is marrying someone just for mindboggling sexual pleasure its still permissible. In America, many do not have polygamous relationship due to mindboggling sexual pleasure, it is expensive to maintain multiple families and to commit to look after children who are not your own and there is no motivation except Islam.
I understand your perspective.
Just remembered due to this topic since he always asks everyone...
Request for Prayers: A well known Muslim American Scholar
All are requested to pray for him and his children (from both wives, his biological and non-biological) and to ease his pain and make his passing easier and without pain (Ameen).
- His second wife recently passed away in Cancer
- He also has stage 4 cancer and not long to live
He can no longer sustain conversations on a phone so usually replies via Texts, really nice and down to earth guy
@JaDed @The Bald Eagle @KingKhanWC @sweep_shot @Suleiman @DeadlyVenom @Bhaijaan @Nikhil_cric @Major @RizwanT20Champ
Now logging off, because I just remembered this
#gameisgameI don’t know where you’re getting your “very common” information from. I have plenty of Pakistani friends and acquaintances but none of them has multiple wives. Polygamy is illegal - enforcement may vary between states.
Legal Overview of Polygamy in the U.S.
Enforcement and Exceptions
Pretty much sums up why you guys have your current reputation in the civilized world.
