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Afghan suicide bomber ‘arrested’ in South Waziristan​


A suspected Afghan suicide bomber was arrested during an operation carried out by the Frontier Corps (FC) in South Waziristan district of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Geo News reported on Sunday, citing security sources.

This arrest was made amid border tensions between Pakistan and Afghanistan after the neighbours engaged in deadly clashes for days that killed dozens and wounded hundreds before agreeing to a ceasefire.

The escalation was a result of the Afghan Taliban regime's reluctance to act against terrorist groups, including proscribed Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) alias Fitna al-Khawarij, operating from Afghan soil, in the backdrop of rising terror attacks in Pakistan.

The arrested suicide bomber has been identified as 22-year-old Naimatullah, son of Musa Jan, and is a resident of Kandahar province of Afghanistan.

During interrogation, the suspect revealed in a video that his militancy training was supposed to last for three months, but he received only a week of it.

He stated that the training included instructions on how to carry out suicide attacks using vehicles, as well as how to target military checkpoints and security personnel.

The detained suspect also disclosed that he, along with around 40 others, had gathered in Afghanistan's Khost city before entering Pakistan through the Chowar route.

In a separate development, security sources confirmed to Geo News that a "most wanted" Fitna al-Hindustan local commander, Jamil alias Tetak, was killed.

The slain terrorist was a resident of Balochistan's Panjgur district and was involved in several terrorist incidents in the district, Buleda, and its surrounding areas.

The sources also said that Jameel was implicated in the 2022 attack on Panjgur Headquarters.

In the fresh development, Islamabad and Kabul signed a ceasefire agreement, effectively bringing an end to the days of hostility triggered by border clashes following talks in Doha, which was mediated by Qatar and Turkiye.

The two sides will meet again in Istanbul on October 25, with Islamabad and Kabul agreeing to respect each other's territorial sovereignty.

Pakistan has time and again urged the Taliban regime in Afghanistan to prevent the Afghan soil from being used by terrorists to carry out attacks inside Pakistan.

Since Taliban rulers returned to Afghanistan in 2021, Pakistan has witnessed a surge in cross-border terror incidents, particularly in the bordering provinces of KP and Balochistan.

The two nations share a porous border spanning around 2,500 kilometres with several crossing points, which hold significance as a key element of regional trade and relations between the people across both sides of the border.

www.thenews.com.pk

Afghan suicide bomber ‘arrested’ in South Waziristan

A suspected Afghan suicide bomber was arrested during an operation carried out by the Frontier Corps in South Waziristan district of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Geo News reported on Sunday, citing security...
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BouncerGuy said:
Pakistan, Afghanistan agree to immediate ceasefire after Doha talks: defence minister

Pakistan and Afghanistan have agreed to an immediate ceasefire following high-level negotiations in Doha, where both countries pledged to respect each other’s sovereignty and are expected to meet again on October 25 to further discuss matters, Defence Minister Khawaja Asif said on Sunday.

Amid heightened tensions along the Pak-Afghan border, a high-level Pakistani delegation led by Asif travelled to Doha on Saturday for talks with Afghan Taliban officials, aimed at ending cross-border hostilities and addressing Pakistan’s security concerns. Facilitated by Qatar, the talks followed days of clashes and Pakistani strikes on Gul Bahadur group camps in Afghanistan, after a 48-hour ceasefire was extended to allow negotiations.

In a post on X, the minister announced, “A ceasefire agreement has been finalised. The terrorist attacks from Afghanistan on Pakistan’s soil will cease immediately. Both neighbouring countries will respect each other’s territory,” adding that delegations will meet again in Istanbul on October 25 to discuss matters in detail.

“We are sincerely grateful to both brotherly countries, Qatar and Turkiye,” the minister said.

Earlier, a post on the X account of PTV News, citing the Qatar Ministry of Foreign Affairs, had also confirmed the development.

“During the talks, both countries not only agreed on an immediate ceasefire but also decided to establish a permanent mechanism for bilateral peace and stability,” the post said.

The post further noted that both countries will hold follow-up meetings in the coming days to ensure the implementation and sustained continuity of the ceasefire.

“These measures will prove beneficial in promoting security and stability in both Pakistan and Afghanistan,” it said.

According to the post, the negotiations, hosted by the State of Qatar with Turkiye acting as mediator, continued for 13 hours.

On Saturday, as talks were underway between the two sides, Pakistan had reiterated that it did not seek escalation. However, it urged the Afghan Taliban authorities to honour their commitments to the international community and address Pakistan’s legitimate security concerns by taking verifiable action against terrorist entities, a statement from the Foreign Office (FO) had said.

“Pakistan appreciates the mediation efforts of Qatar and hopes these discussions contribute to peace and stability in the region,“ it had added.

Cross-border escalation

On the night of October 11, Afghan forces launched an unprovoked attack on Pakistani border posts, sparking a series of clashes that left 23 Pakistani soldiers martyred and over 200 Taliban and affiliated militants dead, according to the military’s media wing, the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR).

The Pakistan military responded with precision strikes inside Afghanistan’s Kandahar province and Kabul, targeting militant camps and border positions, while urging Kabul to act against terrorist groups operating from its soil.

Afghanistan claimed it carried out the border attack as a “retaliatory” measure, accusing Islamabad of conducting air strikes in its territory last Thursday — a charge Islamabad has neither confirmed nor denied.

Clashes broke out again on Tuesday (Oct.14), with the Afghan Taliban and Fitna al Khawarij exchanging fire with Pakistan troops at the Kurram border. Pakistan followed this on Wednesday by launching “precision strikes” in Afghanistan’s Kandahar province and Kabul.

Fitna al Khawarij is a term the state uses to refer to the terrorists affiliated with the banned Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP).

The FO on Wednesday announced that a temporary ceasefire had been agreed with Afghanistan for the next 48 hours amid the recent border hostilities. Later on Friday, the ceasefire was extended, according to a senior diplomatic source.

Additionally, Pakistan again targeted terrorist hideouts in Afghanistan that same day. Incidents were reported from the Angoor Adda region and across Afghanistan’s Urgun and Barmal districts of Paktika province as strikes were conducted against hideouts of the outlawed Hafiz Gul Bahadur group.

The attacks came on the heels of an audacious gun-and-bomb attack targeting a military installation in North Waziristan, and just hours after Islamabad and Kabul extended the two-day ceasefire.

Deteriorating ties

Relations between Islamabad and Kabul have remained strained since 2023, with Pakistan repeatedly raising concerns over the use of Afghan soil by militants carrying out cross-border attacks. The security situation has deteriorated further in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan following the outlawed TTP’s decision to end its ceasefire with Islamabad in November 2022.

While the two sides have attempted to hold dialogue from time to time, tensions have persisted. Kabul, while insisting that it does not permit its territory to be used against any country, continues to face criticism from Islamabad as TTP-led assaults continue in Pakistan.

www.dawn.com

Pakistan, Afghanistan agree to immediate ceasefire after Doha talks: defence minister

Both countries also agree to establish a permanent mechanism for bilateral peace and stability; delegations to meet again in Istanbul on October 25.
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I believe in reading the situation accurately and dispassionate analysis even when others disagree. TTP is a problem in Pakistan and they do cross the border into Afghanistan so Pakistan does have a problem.

I believe that PAF strikes brought together the Nation of Afghanistan to rally behind Taliban, similar to what happened when Indian breached the border into Pakistan so in the long run these strikes will work to increase support for Taliban.

I believe that it was the closure of border and area denial which brought Taliban to Doha and not PAF strikes, these guys can lose civilians or Talibs and it does not matter to them at all.

Then I believe that TTP has not been part of the agreement in Doha and from what I have seen so far it is not mentioned, I believe that TTP will continue to act against Pakistan and this agreement will be broken.

TTA (Taliban of Afghanistan) does not recognize the Durand Line, therefore Pakistan should not go back to normal otherwise acts of Terrorism will continue and it will be PAF again which will respond and TTA will blame the breaking of agreement on Pakistan and hostilities will start again.

LordJames said:
Pakistan blocked the border in 1961 and in 13 days brought the state of Afghanistan to its knees.​
  1. In less then 2 years the Government of Mohammad Daoud Khan collapsed​
  2. There was no Pushtunistan issue until 1971 (when Pakistan was at its weakest).​
If Pakistan closes the border and controls smuggling, Afghanistan's economy will collapse and there will be widespread shortage of goods, Chabahar (Iran) is not an option because of distance and also due to International sanctions, there is nothing India can do unless Indians want to airlift the entire trade of Afghanistan which is impossible because Indian economy and Air force also cannot handle it.

Why now? Because grapes, apples and onions are ripe and there are thousands of trucks on the border on Afghan side stranded and the produce will likely rot, this will have devastating impact on Afghan economy.

Downside: The economy of KP also relies of Afghanistan so this needs to be done while subsiding Pushtuns in KP which the whole of Pakistan needs to do.

Why Pakistan Army will not do it? Because they earn from smuggling and patronize it like a Mafia and earn money from it.

Pakistan has the Economic Card and holds the Jugular vein of Afghanistan...All the drug money in the world cannot buy food and commodity!​

I don't understand your point half the time so unable to respond.

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  1. Release Imran Khan and let Psuhtuns deal with the issue
  2. Military strikes is not the answer and we will be back to this stalemate in the future. People of Pakistan are filled with Jingoism and believe in military superiority to deliver a solution and it won't

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JaDed said:
I agree on that but there is not point comparing this situation to India.
Do you want to see how many times in last 4 months some leader of Pakistan has visited US? It was insane amount of times for a country so far.
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Probably as often as India carry out the IPL or IPL auction in dubai
All while complaining about Maryam nawaz speaking in fluent arabic
 
LordJames said:
I believe in reading the situation accurately and dispassionate analysis even when others disagree. TTP is a problem in Pakistan and they do cross the border into Afghanistan so Pakistan does have a problem.

I believe that PAF strikes brought together the Nation of Afghanistan to rally behind Taliban, similar to what happened when Indian breached the border into Pakistan so in the long run these strikes will work to increase support for Taliban.

I believe that it was the closure of border and area denial which brought Taliban to Doha and not PAF strikes, these guys can lose civilians or Talibs and it does not matter to them at all.

Then I believe that TTP has not been part of the agreement in Doha and from what I have seen so far it is not mentioned, I believe that TTP will continue to act against Pakistan and this agreement will be broken.

TTA (Taliban of Afghanistan) does not recognize the Durand Line, therefore Pakistan should not go back to normal otherwise acts of Terrorism will continue and it will be PAF again which will respond and TTA will blame the breaking of agreement on Pakistan and hostilities will start again.


  1. Release Imran Khan and let Psuhtuns deal with the issue
  2. Military strikes is not the answer and we will be back to this stalemate in the future. People of Pakistan are filled with Jingoism and believe in military superiority to deliver a solution and it won't

October 19, 2025: Bookmark this post!
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More than anything. I think these strikes are signal to India.

Look at timing - when muttaqi is in Dehli.
 
m.shah said:
So what is the point. Have u forgotten the grand welcome of Trump by Modi in India? My friend Doolan Trump. Every country has its foreign policy no wrong in that.
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The point is as simple as India doesn't allow US to bomb its own country for some $ , great foreign policy to have then..and it wasn’t only Mushraff..
 
JaDed said:
The point is as simple as India doesn't allow US to bomb its own country for some $ , great foreign policy to have then..and it wasn’t only Mushraff..
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The blunder done by Musharraf Pakistan is still paying for it even indirectly Kashmiris(Indian side) are paying for it. Let's hope Munir has some senses and selectively eliminate terrorists and foreign elements without hurting common masses. And India Ajit Doval focuses on improving own country's security instead of looking how to create unrest in Pakistan by supporting TTP and BLA.
 
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Reports of another ambush attack, 5 Pakistani soldiers martyred

There will be action today.
 
We really need to improve the border defence on our western border

Turn the fc into a proper military unit with heavy weapons and air assets , and an air cavalry unit of helicopters

And really improve the defences of these fire bases and posts

Its gonna cost money but this border is more dangerous than the loc and eastern front.
 
What a conspiracy theory

If usa wanted to it could make the taliban go extinct and wipe.out entire bloodlines

You saw what happend in gaza hamas never expected that response when it hid amongst civilians israel never cared they used the dresden method
 
mazkhan said:
What a conspiracy theory

If usa wanted to it could make the taliban go extinct and wipe.out entire bloodlines

You saw what happend in gaza hamas never expected that response when it hid amongst civilians israel never cared they used the dresden method
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This. PTI is being hijacked by Pashtun nationalists.
 
mazkhan said:
What a conspiracy theory

If usa wanted to it could make the taliban go extinct and wipe.out entire bloodlines

You saw what happend in gaza hamas never expected that response when it hid amongst civilians israel never cared they used the dresden method
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There was once a man who convinced everyone that within just 100 days, Pakistan would have skyscrapers taller than the Burj Khalifa, an economy greater than the USA, and a passport stronger than Japan’s. He even promised the nation would become more religious than Makkah and Madina during the time of the Prophet (s.a.w)

Anyone with half a brain knew such fantasies were impossible, yet the delusional few believed every word.
those same delusional people are coming up with these conspiracy theories. nothing to be worried about :D
 
m.shah said:
The blunder done by Musharraf Pakistan is still paying for it even indirectly Kashmiris(Indian side) are paying for it. Let's hope Munir has some senses and selectively eliminate terrorists and foreign elements without hurting common masses. And India Ajit Doval focuses on improving own country's security instead of looking how to create unrest in Pakistan by supporting TTP and BLA.
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Do you know who was caught on camera in Afghanistan when Taliban took over Afghanistan in 2021, hint: wasn’t Ajit Doval
 
JaDed said:
Do you know who was caught on camera in Afghanistan when Taliban took over Afghanistan in 2021, hint: wasn’t Ajit Doval
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No I don't know , what I know is video in which Ajit Doval is planning to support terrorism is Pakistan via TTPS.
 
m.shah said:
No I don't know , what I know is video in which Ajit Doval is planning to support terrorism is Pakistan via TTPS.
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Here.. this is from 2021, I can post multiple articles if you want, he was ISI chief, please tell me Pakistan wasn’t involved in placing Taliban in Afghanistan? So it’s good taliban and bad taliban? Was Raw chief in Kabul or Isi Chief after Taliban took over?

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Spy Chief's Visit With Taliban Underscores Pakistan's Victory In Afghanistan

The recent visit to Afghanistan by Pakistani spy chief Faiz Hameed has renewed interest in Islamabad’s alleged role in sustaining the Taliban and highlights its influence over the group. But Pakistan’s ties to the Taliban are more complicated than many people think.
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www.dawn.com

'Don't worry, everything will be okay': ISI chief during Kabul visit

Gen Faiz seen at Kabul hotel with Pakistan's envoy to Afghanistan Mansoor Ahmad Khan; sources say he's there on a day-long trip.
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cricketfan24 said:
There was once a man who convinced everyone that within just 100 days, Pakistan would have skyscrapers taller than the Burj Khalifa, an economy greater than the USA, and a passport stronger than Japan’s. He even promised the nation would become more religious than Makkah and Madina during the time of the Prophet (s.a.w)

Anyone with half a brain knew such fantasies were impossible, yet the delusional few believed every word.
those same delusional people are coming up with these conspiracy theories. nothing to be worried about :D
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There was a guy that convinced ppl like you thar he had a $100bn in investment lined up from Gulf states and get the economy growing to point where we would be showered with dollars. Today he believes his God is Trump and not Allah.
Aap ki kasam.
 
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There was once a man who convinced everyone that within just 100 days, Pakistan would have skyscrapers taller than the Burj Khalifa, an economy greater than the USA, and a passport stronger than Japan’s. He even promised the nation would become more religious than Makkah and Madina during the time of the Prophet (s.a.w)

Anyone with half a brain knew such fantasies were impossible, yet the delusional few believed every word.
those same delusional people are coming up with these conspiracy theories. nothing to be worried about :D
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Who promised to cut prices and ended up.selling PK to the zionists
 

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Pak-Afghan border likely to reopen within 24 to 48 hours: Sources

According to diplomatic sources, officials from both countries have agreed to reopen the border, which has remained closed amid heightened hostilities. Pakistani officials said that if no new dispute arises, the Torkham crossing will soon be reopened to restore trade and travel between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Hostilities between the two neighbouring nations escalated sharply after Taliban and allied militants launched coordinated attacks on Pakistani border posts overnight on October 11–12, 2025. The Pakistan Army responded with a strong counteroffensive, killing scores of attackers and capturing multiple enemy positions.

According to the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), the Afghan Taliban and Indian-sponsored Fitna al-Khawarij carried out an unprovoked assault along the Pak-Afghan border. The “cowardly action,” which included cross-border fire and limited raids, aimed to destabilize border areas and facilitate terrorism under FAK’s nefarious designs.

Exercising the right to self-defence, Pakistan’s alert armed forces decisively repelled the attack across multiple sectors, inflicting heavy casualties on Taliban fighters and affiliated militants.


arynews.tv

Pak-Afghan border likely to reopen within 24 to 48 hours: Sources

The Pak Afghan border is set to reopen soon as both Pakistan and Afghanistan agree to restore trade and travel after recent hostilities.
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@gazza619
Brother what’s the situation currently.
If peace has resumed. I am considering the retirement as was planned previously.
 
Bhaijaan said:
@gazza619
Brother what’s the situation currently.
If peace has resumed. I am considering the retirement as was planned previously.
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Despite the tumultuous history and ongoing conflicts, I truly believe that there is still a glimmer of hope for peace between Pakistan and India. This optimism stems from the fact that there are, and always will be, sensible and educated individuals on both sides who understand the value of peace and are willing to work towards it.

However, when it comes to the relationship between Afghanistan and Pakistan, I must admit that I am not as hopeful. The deep-rooted issues and the complex background of the Afghan people make it difficult for me to see a path to peace in the near future.
 
gazza619 said:
Despite the tumultuous history and ongoing conflicts, I truly believe that there is still a glimmer of hope for peace between Pakistan and India. This optimism stems from the fact that there are, and always will be, sensible and educated individuals on both sides who understand the value of peace and are willing to work towards it.

However, when it comes to the relationship between Afghanistan and Pakistan, I must admit that I am not as hopeful. The deep-rooted issues and the complex background of the Afghan people make it difficult for me to see a path to peace in the near future.
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As I always say wrt Pakistan, I feel a prosperous and politically stable Afghanistan would be far more beneficial for Pakistan than a destabilised Afghanistan.

Strong institutions are the need of the hour and let no country in the region turn its smaller neighbours into a playground for flexing its geopolitical clout.
 
Bhaijaan said:
As I always say wrt Pakistan, I feel a prosperous and politically stable Afghanistan would be far more beneficial for Pakistan than a destabilised Afghanistan.

Strong institutions are the need of the hour and let no country in the region turn its smaller neighbours into a playground for flexing its geopolitical clout.
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Afghanistan will never be beneficial for pakistan unless they stop exporting terrorists into pakistan on behalf of india
 
A string of videos released by the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has put Pakistan's army chief, Field Marshal Asim Munir, in a spot. The videos feature a top TTP commander threatening Munir, claiming that the Pakistani army should avoid sending soldiers to get killed and instead, top officers should lead themselves to the battlefield.

The videos include battlefield footage of an October 8 ambush in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's Kurram, in which the TTP claims 22 Pakistani soldiers were killed and shows captured ammunition and vehicles. Pakistan's official accounts have so far recorded fewer casualties: the army acknowledged 11 soldiers killed in the attack.

In one clip, a senior TTP figure identified by Pakistani officials as Commander Kazim appears on camera and says, "Face us if you are a man." In the same video, Kazim then goes on to say, "Fight us if you have had your mother's milk." On October 21, Pakistani authorities announced a reward of 10 crore Pakistani rupees (PKR) for information leading to the capture of Kazim.

After days of cross-border shelling, air strikes and ***-for-tat exchanges that cost civilian lives on both sides, Pakistan and the Taliban-led authorities in Kabul agreed to an immediate ceasefire mediated by Qatar and Turkey in mid-October. The ceasefire was announced publicly in Doha and framed as a necessary step to stop the escalation along the porous Durand Line. But Islamabad has been at pains to say the truce will only hold if Afghanistan cracks down on armed groups that operate from Afghan soil in a clear reference to the TTP.

Pakistani media reports warn that the TTP's battlefield successes have emboldened other violent outfits. Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ), the Islamic State Khorasan Province (ISKP), and splinter groups such as Jaish-e-Mohammad all watch the trajectory closely. The LeJ has a history of sectarian terror inside Pakistan, targeting minority communities, while ISKP has previously attracted disgruntled fighters from TTP ranks.

As TTP attacks have escalated in recent weeks, the rising violence exposes the Pakistan Army's failure to keep the insurgency under check and to have a counter-strategy or governance plan in troubled KPK.

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TTP releases a video in which its commander challenges Pakistan Arny Chief Asim Munir to come and personally fight them if he is a man and if had his mothers milk, instead of sending soldiers like sheep and goats [to die]. And that they will show him how to fight a war.

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
TTP releases a video in which its commander challenges Pakistan Arny Chief Asim Munir to come and personally fight them if he is a man and if had his mothers milk, instead of sending soldiers like sheep and goats [to die]. And that they will show him how to fight a war.

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The mother's milk comment is similar to stuff you hear in Pakistani pinds which I guess sums up the sophistication of such outfits. But interesting following the links in the news article which was linked. The piece was written by a Hindu writer, and in the comment section there is another article about the success of the BJP introduction of religious faith into politics.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
The mother's milk comment is similar to stuff you hear in Pakistani pinds which I guess sums up the sophistication of such outfits. But interesting following the links in the news article which was linked. The piece was written by a Hindu writer, and in the comment section there is another article about the success of the BJP introduction of religious faith into politics.
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India has nothing to do here. TTP released a video statement and media's simply reported the actual news unlike Pakistan who never tell the actual reality to Pakistani awam .

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
India has nothing to do here. TTP released a video statement and media's simply reported the actual news unlike Pakistan who never tell the actual reality to Pakistani awam .

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I didn't say any different. I just commented that the writer was a Hindu (fact) and that there is an article in the commentary section discussing the success of the introduction of faith into politics by the BJP. Also fact.
 
Devadwal said:
TTP releases a video in which its commander challenges Pakistan Arny Chief Asim Munir to come and personally fight them if he is a man and if had his mothers milk, instead of sending soldiers like sheep and goats [to die]. And that they will show him how to fight a war.

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FFS, these savages don't even know proper etiquette for battlefield one on one challenge. In the Trojan war, it was Achilles who made the challenge to Hector and not some random warrior. It should be Noor Wali Mehsud making this challenge and not some random commander.

Oh wait... Noor Wali Mehsud is currently injured and grounded, much like the Indian Airforce in May...... :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Sentinels of the Sky: The Persistent Threat Detection System


From afar, it looked like a scene straight out of an H. G. Wells novel. In 2003, a series of blimp-shaped air vehicles began rising, one after another, over the arid terrain of Afghanistan.

The unusual-looking ships—helium-filled aircraft called aerostats—rose to an altitude of 15,000 feet and floated quietly in the sky, each secured to a ground-based mooring system by long tethers.

Insurgents on the ground were perplexed by what they saw. The airships didn’t seem to move, nor did they fire missiles or release bombs.

It was only when insurgents began to notice coalition forces anticipating some of their covert operations that they realized those alien-looking airships had been watching—and recording—their every movement via a new surveillance program called the Persistent Threat Detection System (PTDS).


The Power of Persistence
Using aerostats for surveillance purposes has a long history, from the use of hot-air balloons during the Civil War to the recent deployment of tethered air vehicles to monitor drug-running activity in the Caribbean.

But in 2003, Lockheed Martin engineers began updating the envelopes of existing naval aerostats with new durable materials capable of achieving lift while carrying larger payloads of sensors, cameras and audio equipment. New tethers—lined with a mix of copper wires and fiber-optic cables—transmitted data to a Ground Control Station, which then disseminated near real-time information of hostile activity to operational forces.

The aerostats have proven to be an invaluable reconnaissance tool, gathering intelligence from 100 miles in every direction, 24 hours a day, for weeks on end, thwarting everything from the planting of IEDs in remote locations to rogue Afghan police officers extorting money from civilians at illegal checkpoints.


Many Eyes in the Sky
In all, some 66 PTDS aerostats have been put into action in Iraq and Afghanistan since 2003, as the program has evolved into a multi-mission surveillance platform equally adept at protecting convoys in transit as providing intelligence on enemy troop movements.

Due to the success of the PTDS aerostats, Lockheed-Martin is developing a High Altitude Long Endurance Demonstrator (HALE-D), which seeks to hover, completely untethered, at 60,000 to 70,000 feet. Used in conjunction with satellites and low-flying surveillance aircraft, these aerostats will offer multilayered surveillance capabilities, enhancing situational awareness in theaters of war while guarding U.S. and allied forces across the globe.
 
Aerostats are what our bases need in tribal areas and border areas.

Even if an ied goes you can recheck the film whom planted it and where they travelled from and from which building .

It provides a 24/7 surveilance and gathers intelligence
 
An aerostat could simply relay the information to a team operating fpv drones as we saw in ukraine and gaza these can even fly into small holes
 
Remember we are up against people

Whose retardness knows no bounds

Clinging onto an aeroplane like we saw at bagram

And killing polio and female medical teams on a conspiracy theory of making children and women infertile
 
Hitman said:
A string of videos released by the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has put Pakistan's army chief, Field Marshal Asim Munir, in a spot. The videos feature a top TTP commander threatening Munir, claiming that the Pakistani army should avoid sending soldiers to get killed and instead, top officers should lead themselves to the battlefield.

The videos include battlefield footage of an October 8 ambush in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's Kurram, in which the TTP claims 22 Pakistani soldiers were killed and shows captured ammunition and vehicles. Pakistan's official accounts have so far recorded fewer casualties: the army acknowledged 11 soldiers killed in the attack.

In one clip, a senior TTP figure identified by Pakistani officials as Commander Kazim appears on camera and says, "Face us if you are a man." In the same video, Kazim then goes on to say, "Fight us if you have had your mother's milk." On October 21, Pakistani authorities announced a reward of 10 crore Pakistani rupees (PKR) for information leading to the capture of Kazim.

After days of cross-border shelling, air strikes and ***-for-tat exchanges that cost civilian lives on both sides, Pakistan and the Taliban-led authorities in Kabul agreed to an immediate ceasefire mediated by Qatar and Turkey in mid-October. The ceasefire was announced publicly in Doha and framed as a necessary step to stop the escalation along the porous Durand Line. But Islamabad has been at pains to say the truce will only hold if Afghanistan cracks down on armed groups that operate from Afghan soil in a clear reference to the TTP.

Pakistani media reports warn that the TTP's battlefield successes have emboldened other violent outfits. Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ), the Islamic State Khorasan Province (ISKP), and splinter groups such as Jaish-e-Mohammad all watch the trajectory closely. The LeJ has a history of sectarian terror inside Pakistan, targeting minority communities, while ISKP has previously attracted disgruntled fighters from TTP ranks.

As TTP attacks have escalated in recent weeks, the rising violence exposes the Pakistan Army's failure to keep the insurgency under check and to have a counter-strategy or governance plan in troubled KPK.

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Irony dies a thousand deaths when TTP and Afghan Taliban talk about fighting like men.

Apparently real men send young boys to blow themselves up in crowded marketplaces, airports, hotels, mosques, courthouses, or pack bombs in cars to kill indiscriminately etc. Below is a list of attacks in Kabul alone:

List of terrorist attacks in Kabul - Wikipedia

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What's sickening is how so many Pakistanis celebrated these savages as freedom fighters. Now we're reaping the whirlwind. There's examples throughout world history of insurgencies taking precautions against civilians - the IRA used to publicise warnings and predominantly stuck to military targets. These animals attacked civilians then ran back to their caves and mountains.
 
Pakistan has presented a firm stance on cross-border terrorism during talks in Istanbul, with discussions focusing on threats posed by terrorist groups operating in the region, including Fitna al Khwarij

The second round of talks between Pakistani and Afghanistan concluded in Türkiye on Saturday, however, discussions are expected to continue for another two days. The dialogue, seen as crucial given recent tensions between Islamabad and Kabul, was facilitated by the Turkish government.

According to sources, Pakistan’s delegation comprised seven members, including representatives from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and security agencies. The Afghan Taliban delegation included six officials.

During the talks, Pakistan presented its ‘clear and firm stance’ on the threat posed by the terrorist group Fitna al Khwarij and other terrorist organisations operating in the region, sources added.

The discussions focused on enhancing security coordination, improving border cooperation, and formulating a joint strategy to promote peace and stability in the region.

Sources familiar with the matter said the aim of the negotiations is to establish a consensus on mechanisms that would help address cross-border security challenges and prevent terrorist activities.
Further deliberations are expected to take place over the next two days as both sides seek common ground on key security issues.

Asif warns of 'open war' with Afghanistan if peace talks fail

Meanwhile, Defence Minister Khawaja Asif said on Saturday he believes Afghanistan wants peace but that failure to reach an agreement during talks in Istanbul would mean "open war," days after both sides agreed to a ceasefire following deadly border clashes.

He said there had been no incidents in the four to five days since it was agreed, and both sides were complying with the truce.

"We have the option, if no agreement takes place, we have an open war with them," he said in televised remarks from Pakistan. "But I saw that
they want peace."

Source: The Express Tribune
 
Trump says will get Pak-Afghan conflict ‘solved very quickly’

United States President Donald Trump said on Sunday that he would get the conflict between Pakistan and Afghanistan “solved very quickly”, calling Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and COAS Field Marshal Asim Munir “great people”.

Tensions between Islamabad and Kabul flared up earlier this month over accusations of terrorism, as border clashes killed 23 Pakistani troops as well as 200 Taliban and affiliated terrorists after an attack by Kabul, which it claimed was retaliation for Islamabad conducting air strikes in its territory. A first round of talks in Doha last weekend led to a ceasefire agreement, with both governments seeking to firm up the agreement in more talks yesterday.

Trump, who was previously involved in brokering a ceasefire between Pakistan and India in May of this year as well as a peace deal between Israel and Gaza’s Hamas, arrived today in Malaysia to attend a summit of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) in Kuala Lumpur, while also co-signing a ceasefire agreement between Thailand and Cambodia.

Addressing the border dispute on the sidelines of an Asean summit today, Trump referred to it as “one of eight wars that my administration has ended in just eight months”.

“We’re averaging one a month. There’s only one left,” he said. “Although I heard that Pakistan and Afghanistan have started up, but I’ll get that solved very quickly.”

He added, “I know them both … the Pakistan field marshal and the prime minister are great people, and I know we’re gonna get that done quickly. That one started up a few days ago.”

Referring to his own role in halting wars around the world, the US president said, “I just feel it’s something I can do. I do it nicely.

“I don’t need to do it, I guess,” he added. “But if I can take time and save millions of lives, that’s really a great thing. I can’t think of anything better to do.”

Trump had previously thanked both Shehbaz and “my favourite” Munir for their efforts in securing the ceasefire deal in Gaza, while Shehbaz praised Trump’s “exemplary [and] visionary leadership” and reconfirmed Pakistan’s plan to nominate him for the Nobel Peace Prize 2026.

When the fighting broke out between Pakistan and Afghanistan, the US president was quick to express interest in assisting with establishing peace, although he was at the time occupied with overseeing a hostage exchange between Hamas and Israel.

“I said, ‘I’ll have to wait till I get back. I am doing another one,’” he told reporters at the time. “Because I’m good at solving wars, I’m good at making peace, and it is an honour to do it.”

DAWN NEWS
 
Pakistan warns Afghan Taliban over backing for terrorist groups in Istanbul talks

During the second day of talks between Pakistan and Afghanistan in Istanbul, Pakistan made it clear that any support by the Afghan Taliban for terrorist groups is unacceptable.

According to security sources, the Pakistani delegation presented its final position to the Afghan side, stressing that the Taliban’s patronage of terrorist networks cannot be accepted. Pakistan emphasised that firm and credible steps are necessary to end such support.

Sources said the Taliban’s arguments during the discussions were illogical and detached from ground realities. It appeared, they added, that the Taliban were pursuing a separate agenda, one not aligned with the stability of Afghanistan, Pakistan or the wider region. The continuation of dialogue now depends on a positive attitude from the Afghan side.

Pakistan has linked the improvement of bilateral relations to the prevention of terrorism. Pakistani officials called for verifiable action against all terrorist organisations, including Fitna al-Hindustan and Fitna al-Khawarij.

Security officials stated that operations against these groups form the core of Pakistan’s demands. Clear, verified and effective control over terrorist elements are the three essential components of this requirement. Progress in talks will depend on the Taliban government’s acceptance of this principle.




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Pakistan warns Afghan Taliban over backing for terrorist groups in Istanbul talks

According to security sources, the Pakistani delegation presented its final position to the Afghan side, stressing that the Taliban’s patronage of terrorist networks cannot be accepted.
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Afghan Taliban unwilling to give written assurances, say diplomatic sources

The third round of Pak-Afghan talks between Pakistan and the Afghan Taliban regime continued in Istanbul for over ten hours on Sunday, diplomatic sources told ARY News, marking another difficult day of negotiations with little sign of progress.

According to diplomatic sources, the Pak-Afghan dialogue saw extensive discussions on multiple issues, but the Afghan Taliban representatives have so far refrained from giving any written commitments on key matters despite repeated engagement.

The sources revealed that the Pak-Afghan negotiations have reached a stalemate, with hopes for a tangible breakthrough now “extremely limited.”

However, the Afghan Taliban regime was said to have shown an understanding of Pakistan’s legitimate security concerns, particularly regarding the presence and activities of terrorist networks operating from Afghan soil — a key sticking point in the Pak-Afghan peace process.

Diplomatic insiders noted that elements in Kandahar and Kabul continue to resist efforts to curb support for these militant networks, posing a major hurdle in achieving consensus.

Meanwhile, the mediators and hosts of the Istanbul dialogue reportedly acknowledged and agreed with Pakistan’s security concerns, recognizing their validity and importance for regional stability and the future of Pak-Afghan cooperation.

The ongoing Pak-Afghan Istanbul dialogue — aimed at addressing cross-border security issues and strengthening bilateral cooperation — remains inconclusive as both sides continue to navigate complex political and security differences.

Earlier, Pakistan conveyed its final and firm stance to the Afghan Taliban during high-stakes talks in Istanbul, warning that the continued sheltering or patronage of terrorist groups will not be tolerated, security sources told ARY News.

According to the sources, the Pakistani delegation made it explicitly clear that Afghan soil must not be used for terrorism against Pakistan, identifying it as the core demand of Islamabad. The delegation urged the Taliban to take verifiable and decisive action against the banned Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA), whose members are reportedly operating from Afghan territory.



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Afghan Taliban unwilling to give written assurances, say diplomatic sources

Pak Afghan talks in Istanbul face challenges as both Pakistan and Afghan taliban delegates discuss key issues with limited progress.
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Pakistan-Afghanistan peace talks collapsed in Istanbul. Future of ceasefire is very uncertain now.

The peace process between Pakistan and Afghanistan is mired in uncertainty after the pair reportedly failed to find a breakthrough during three days of negotiations in Istanbul.

State media in each country blamed the other on Tuesday for the lack of agreement on a long-term truce in Turkiye. The talks were spurred after tensions between Pakistan and Afghanistan’s Taliban rulers over armed groups operating in the latter resulted in deadly cross-border hostilities earlier this month.

Dozens have been killed on both sides of the border in the deadliest fighting between the neighbours since the Taliban took power in 2021.

The negotiations followed a ceasefire agreement mediated by Qatar and Turkiye. However, progress towards a long-term peace appears to have stalled.

It was not clear on Tuesday afternoon whether the talks had concluded or would continue into a fourth day. However, it was reported that the delegations from both countries remained in Istanbul.

Quoting unnamed Pakistani security officials, The Associated Press news agency reported that Turkish mediators were continuing efforts to break the deadlock and allow talks to resume.

Pakistan Television reported that a “last-ditch effort” was being made to resolve the issues.

However, the Reuters news agency reported that the talks had ended without a resolution, according to sources from both sides.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025...tan-pakistan-peace-talks-mired-in-uncertainty
 
I don’t see the Pakistan–Taliban talks leading to any real peace, because Pakistan’s problem with Afghanistan isn’t terrorism but control. Its grudges go far beyond security concerns, and that mistrust will keep fuelling friction and bloodshed along the Durand Line. Pakistan will not hold back, and the Taliban will not give in.

:kp
 
Pakistan and Afghanistan are basically fighting a proxy war on behalf of two outside nations. Pakistan will be armed and backed by the USA. The Taliban will be armed and backed by India.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Pakistan and Afghanistan are basically fighting a proxy war on behalf of two outside nations. Pakistan will be armed and backed by the USA. The Taliban will be armed and backed by India.
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Yes no accountability for both the nations involved, spoken like a true Desi analyst.
 
Devadwal said:
Oops, more embarrassment for Pakistan!

Tajik intelligence chief Saimumin Yatimov says he advised Pakistan Army Chief Asim Munir to choose the path of peace and abandon his war-driven agendas in Afghanistan.

:klopp :kp

https://twitter.com/x/status/1983211092219175117
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this seems like a fake quote.

Tajiks expelled Indians from their country today, it seems like some PR boost attempt from Indians to hide thei shame.
 
Both Pakistan and the Afghan Taliban are accusing each other of sabotaging the peace talks in Istanbul. While both parties suffer from credibility deficits, the Taliban’s account of Pakistan being coercive and arrogant appears more plausible.

Islamabad’s demand that the Taliban guarantee an end to TTP attacks on Pakistani soil is highly unrealistic and borders on fantasy. The TTP’s ideological roots lie within Pakistan itself, where its networks remain active, even collecting extortion money in parts of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

By externalising the problem, the Pakistani military (read: Pakistan Army) seeks to mask its inability to fight the TTP domestically. Its frustration with the Taliban is less about cross-border militancy and more about Kabul’s growing assertion of an independent foreign policy, the most notable and unsettling aspect being its outreach to India. Pakistan can’t seem to adjust to a post-patronage equation with its former proxies.

:klopp :kp
 
Afghanistan-Pakistan peace talks 'failed', Pakistan minister says

Talks aimed at securing a long-term truce between Afghanistan and Pakistan concluded in Istanbul without a "workable solution", Pakistan's information minister said on Wednesday, in a blow for peace in the region after deadly clashes this month.

The talks were aimed at reaching lasting peace between the South Asian neighbours after dozens were killed along their border in the worst such violence since the Taliban took power in Kabul in 2021.

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"The Afghan side kept deviating from the core issue, evading the key point upon which the dialogue process was initiated," Pakistan Information Minister Attaullah Tarar said in a statement early on Wednesday.

"Instead of accepting any responsibility, the Afghan Taliban resorted to blame game, deflection and ruses. The dialogue thus failed to bring about any workable solution," Tarar said.

Afghanistan's foreign and defence ministries did not immediately respond to requests from Reuters for comment on Tarar's statement.

Both nations agreed to a ceasefire brokered in Doha on October 19, but could not find common ground in a second round of talks mediated by Turkey and Qatar in Istanbul, Afghan and Pakistani sources briefed on the issue told Reuters on Tuesday, with each blaming the other for the failure.

A Pakistani security source said the Taliban had been unwilling to commit to rein in the Pakistani Taliban, a separate militant group hostile to Pakistan that Islamabad says operates with impunity inside Afghanistan.

An Afghan source familiar with the talks said they had ended after "tense exchanges" over the issue, adding that the Afghan side said it no control over the Pakistani Taliban, which has launched attacks against Pakistani troops in recent weeks.

The sources sought anonymity as they were not authorised to speak publicly.

The October clashes began after Pakistani air strikes this month on Kabul, the Afghan capital, among other locations, targeting the head of the Pakistani Taliban.

The Taliban responded with attacks on Pakistani military posts along the length of the 2,600-km (1,600 miles) border.

On Saturday, Pakistan's defence minister said he believed Afghanistan wanted peace but that failure to reach an agreement in Istanbul would mean "open war".

Despite a ceasefire between Pakistan and the Taliban, weekend clashes killed five Pakistani soldiers and 25 Pakistani Taliban militants near the border with Afghanistan, the military said on Sunday.

www.reuters.com

Afghanistan-Pakistan peace talks 'failed', Pakistan minister says

Talks aimed at securing a long-term truce between Afghanistan and Pakistan concluded in Istanbul without a "workable solution", Pakistan's information minister said on Wednesday, in a blow for peace in the region after deadly clashes this month.
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Always a futile exercise with these guys to find a peaceful solution.

Very dangerous people saw it in Uxbridge yesterday where they stabbed a white man to death on the street .
 
My dream of Eid prayer alongside Pak army in New Delhi has been postponed.

Now we will read in Kabul first.
 
All jokes aside, I do hope financial aid from India for Taliban will lead to appreciation for Hindu civilisation which would be Modi's expectation. Let's see some Hindu temple restoration and appreciation for Hindu culture to reciprocate the welcome from the BJP govt in India. :whistle:
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
All jokes aside, I do hope financial aid from India for Taliban will lead to appreciation for Hindu civilisation which would be Modi's expectation. Let's see some Hindu temple restoration and appreciation for Hindu culture to reciprocate the welcome from the BJP govt in India. :whistle:
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Oh there's going to be more than just cultural ties and financial aid, wait and see. Brace yourselves, Pakistan :alien:
 
RexRex said:
Oh there's going to be more than just cultural ties and financial aid, wait and see. Brace yourselves, Pakistan :alien:
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So are you expecting some appreciation for Hindu civilisation and Hindu temple restoration in Afghanistan as part of the financial package?
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
So are you expecting some appreciation for Hindu civilisation and Hindu temple restoration in Afghanistan as part of the financial package?
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It's not my faith so not interested.

Besides the last thing the islamist Taliban would want is to have polytheistic traditions floating around them. It's a purely military transaction this - to engage in a sandwich formation to straighten out the black sheep in the region. :alien:
 
RexRex said:
It's not my faith so not interested.

Besides the last thing the islamist Taliban would want is to have polytheistic traditions floating around them. It's a purely military transaction this - to engage in a sandwich formation to straighten out the black sheep in the region. :alien:
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The only thing they will end up straightening is the path to Bagram airbase for the good ol' USA. :salute
 
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