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https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/un-says-evaluating-afghanistan-security-hourly-no-staff-evacuation-2021-08-13/

U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres on Friday called on the Taliban to immediately halt their offensive in Afghanistan, and warned that "Afghanistan is spinning out of control."

"This is the moment to halt the offensive. This is the moment to start serious negotiation. This is the moment to avoid a prolonged civil war, or the isolation of Afghanistan," Guterres told reporters in New York.

Taliban insurgents have seized Afghanistan's second- and third-biggest cities as resistance from government forces crumbled, stoking fears that an assault on the capital Kabul could be just days away.

Guterres called on all parties to do more to protect civilians.

He also said he was "deeply disturbed by early indications that the Taliban are imposing severe restrictions on human rights in the areas under their control, particularly targeting women and journalists."

"It is particularly horrifying and heartbreaking to see reports of the hard-won rights of Afghan girls and women being ripped away from them," he said.

Under Taliban rule between 1996 and 2001, women could not work, girls were not allowed to attend school and women had to cover their face and be accompanied by a male relative if they wanted to venture out of their homes.

The United Nations is evaluating the security situation in Afghanistan on "an hour-by-hour basis" and moving some staff to the capital Kabul, but is not evacuating anyone from the country, the U.N. spokesman said earlier on Friday.

The world body had "a very light footprint" in some areas taken by the Taliban, spokesman Stephane Dujarric told reporters. It has about 3,000 national staff and about 300 international staff on the ground in Afghanistan.

The United States is sending in about 3,000 extra troops to help evacuate U.S. Embassy staff and Britain is deploying about 600 troops to help its citizens leave. Other embassies, including those of the Netherlands, Germany and Norway, and aid groups said they were also getting their people out.

Since the start of the year nearly 400,000 people have been newly displaced by conflict across Afghanistan, the United Nations has said. Dujarric said 10,350 internally displaced people arrived in Kabul between July 1 and Aug. 12.
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Major said:
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Did you know the people of Swat also surrendered to TTP back in 2008s?

When people with arms come everyone will surrender. Very easy to go macho talk behind your computer screen.
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Yes, was a wrong move by then PPP govt to actually recognize them. But Pakistan is not ruled by puppets. Govt make mistakes and rectify them. Thank goodness we have an army that is not an Indian puppet. They defeated ttp in swat, and now look where we are, ALHAMDULILLAH. Swat once again is hustling and bustling, and the ski resort is quite popular in winter.
 
Napa said:
The Ugyhurs disagree
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China isn't making Afghanistan a province - China does not care about what other Muslim countries do with their Muslim population, it's like saying Saudi Arabia shouldn't trade with India just because India has an Islamophobic government and they treat Kashmiri Muslims like prisoners, when in reality India probably doesn't care how Islamic other Muslim countries are and more focused on neutralizing their own Muslim minority.
 
guna said:
When the barbarians come to power, there will not be peace. It will be chaos and people will be scared of these animals. Expect brutal sharia punishments and women will be treated worse than animals.

Democracy is the only solution for Afghanistan. It will have its drawbacks in a nation with corrupt politicians and illiterate citizens. But it still beats the heck out of Taliban rule.
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Okay and how does that matter to America or India, there are several authoritarian regimes in the world and some even have strict Sharia law such as Saudi Arabia and Iran - two countries India has had close ties with. Whatever form of governance and domestic policy the people of Afghanistan choose or whichever Afghan power decides for them shouldn't be of any concern to outsiders, if the worlds job is to impose democracy and human rights on a country then the free world would've invaded Eritrea by now.
 
ahmedzee said:
Yes, was a wrong move by then PPP govt to actually recognize them. But Pakistan is not ruled by puppets. Govt make mistakes and rectify them. Thank goodness we have an army that is not an Indian puppet. They defeated ttp in swat, and now look where we are, ALHAMDULILLAH. Swat once again is hustling and bustling, and the ski resort is quite popular in winter.
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Not only that, they defeated the TTP in FATA and now Pakistan is almost entirely free of them.
 
Giannis said:
Not only that, they defeated the TTP in FATA and now Pakistan is almost entirely free of them.
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yes and ttp was able to conduct the aps attack.............

Before taking shots at Afghanistan, better to look at your own country first.
 
Major said:
yes and ttp was able to conduct the aps attack.............

Before taking shots at Afghanistan, better to look at your own country first.
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Are you dumb? The APS attack happened 7 years ago in December 2014 - As of right now, 08/13/2021 Pakistan has been victorious over the Taliban for the past 4-5 years now. The APS school attack also happened in the early months of Operation Zarb-e-Azb and before the National Action Plan was formulated which led to the TTP being routed from the tribal areas and their sleepers from across the country. Moreover you're so outdated and out of touch that the operation was latter succeeded by another one in 2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Radd-ul-Fasaad which has resulted in a ~ 90% decline in terrorism in Pakistan. .

Also since you're still stuck in 2014, I'll also inform you that since then not only has Pakistan experienced a sharp reduction in terrorist attacks but Pakistan has also been able to establish their writ and rule of law in the former tribal areas which have since been fully integrated into the Province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa thus officially merging it constitutionally with the Pakistan federation and repelling the colonial-era FCR.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/5/24/pakistan-parliament-passes-landmark-tribal-areas-reform
 
Major said:
yes and ttp was able to conduct the aps attack.............

Before taking shots at Afghanistan, better to look at your own country first.
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You need to do some research on what TTP (indian proxies against Pakistan) is and what Afghan Taliban, who made govt in the 90s is. It is like I am schooling a little kid to remind him the difference. Remember, many Pakistani politicians and leaders 10 years back used to differentiate between the two. So please do some research on who TTP is, and who Afghan Taliban is, and kindly use ur anti-Pakistan rhetoric somewhere else as there are people who won’t tolerate it here.
 
Hope Pakistan have learnt from the 20th century and doesn't repeat its mistakes into the 21st.

Back then it was doing the US bidding, now it may be doing China's.
 
The first US troops are arriving in Afghanistan to help diplomatic staff and others leave, as many countries scramble to evacuate workers and citizens amid a rapid Taliban advance.

On Friday, militants captured Pul-e-Alam, capital of Loghar province, just 80km (50 miles) from the capital Kabul.

The UN chief said the situation was spinning out of control with devastating consequences for civilians.

More than 250,000 people have been forced to leave their homes so far.

The Taliban advance comes as US and other foreign troops withdraw after 20 years of military operations. The fighting has raised fears that gains in human rights made since the militants were ousted from power in 2001 could be swiftly reversed.

Life under the Taliban in the 1990s saw women forced to wear the all-covering burka, education restricted for girls over 10, and brutal punishments including public executions.

Also on Friday, the Taliban seized the country's second-largest city Kandahar and the nearby city of Lashkar Gah, as well as Herat in the west. They now control about a third of Afghanistan's provincial capitals.

Pentagon spokesman John Kirby called the recent advances "deeply concerning", but downplayed any suggestion that Kabul was under imminent threat from the group.

Most of the 3,000 troops being sent to help evacuate US diplomatic staff will arrive by the end of the weekend. The US intends to airlift thousands of people a day out of Kabul.

The latest US intelligence assessment suggests the militants could try to advance on the national capital within 30 days.

The US embassy there informed staff that an incinerator and other tools were available to destroy sensitive material, including documents and equipment such as flags that could be used in propaganda.

The UK, which is sending 600 troops to aid the evacuation of British nationals and former Afghan staff, said staffing at its embassy would be reduced to an absolute minimum - as did Germany.

Denmark and Norway are closing their embassies altogether.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58206400
 
Afghan President Ghani says 'remobilisation of armed forces top priority'

Afghan President Ashraf Ghani said on Saturday the remobilisation of the country's armed forces was a “top priority”, as Taliban fighters inched closer to the capital after routing the country's defences over the past week.

The Taliban pushed closer to Kabul, capturing a key city near Afghanistan's capital as American troops flew in to help evacuate embassy personnel and other civilians.

“In the current situation, the remobilisation of our security and defence forces is our top priority, and serious steps are being taken in this regard,” he said in a televised speech.

He gave no hint he would resign or take responsibility for the current situation, but said “consultations” were taking place to try and end the war.

“As a historic mission, I will not let the imposed war on people cause more deaths,” he said, appearing sombre and sitting before an Afghan flag.

With the country's second and third-largest cities having fallen into Taliban hands, Kabul has effectively become a besieged last stand for government forces who have offered little or no resistance elsewhere.

But Ghani praised the forces “that have defended the nation courageously and showed strong determination”.

With the country's second- and third-largest cities having fallen into Taliban hands, Kabul has effectively become the besieged, last stand for government forces who have offered little or no resistance elsewhere.

Taliban advance
Insurgent fighters are now camped just 50 kilometres (30 miles) away, leaving the United States and other countries scrambling to airlift their nationals out of Kabul ahead of a feared all-out assault.

Heaving fighting was also reported around Mazar-i-Sharif, an isolated holdout in the north where warlord and former vice president Abdul Rashid Dostum had gathered his virulently anti-Taliban militia.

The only other cities of any significance not to be taken yet were Jalalabad, Gardez and Khost — Pashtun-dominated and unlikely to offer much resistance now.

In Kabul, US embassy staff were ordered to begin shredding and burning sensitive material, as the first American troops from a planned 3,000-strong re-deployment started arriving to secure the airport and oversee evacuations.

A host of European countries — including Britain, Germany, Denmark and Spain — all announced the withdrawal of personnel from their respective embassies on Friday.

For Kabul residents and the tens of thousands who have sought refuge there in recent weeks, the overwhelming mood was one of confusion and fear.

Muzhda, 35, a single woman who arrived in the capital with her two sisters after fleeing nearby Parwan, said she was terrified for the future.

“I am crying day and night,” she told AFP “I have turned down marriage proposals in the past... If the Taliban come and force me to marry, I will commit suicide.”

UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said he was “deeply disturbed” by accounts of poor treatment of women in areas seized by the Taliban.

The scale and speed of the Taliban advance have shocked Afghans and the US-led alliance that poured billions into the country after toppling the insurgents in the wake of the September 11 attacks nearly 20 years ago.

Days before a final US withdrawal ordered by President Joe Biden, individual Afghan soldiers, units and even whole divisions have surrendered — handing the Taliban even more vehicles and military hardware to fuel their lightning advance.

'No imminent threat to Kabul'
Despite the frantic evacuation efforts, the Biden administration continues to insist that a complete Taliban takeover is not inevitable.

“Kabul is not right now in an imminent threat environment,” Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said on Friday, while acknowledging that Taliban fighters were “trying to isolate” the city.

The Taliban offensive has accelerated in recent days, with the capture of Herat in the north and, just hours later, the seizure of Kandahar — the group's spiritual heartland in the south.

Pul-e-Alam, capital of Logar province, was the latest city to fall on Friday, putting the Taliban within striking distance of Kabul.

Helicopters flitted back and forth between Kabul's airport and the sprawling US diplomatic compound in the heavily fortified Green Zone — 46 years after choppers evacuated Americans from Saigon, signalling the end of the Vietnam War.

The US-led evacuation is focused on thousands of people, including embassy employees, and Afghans and their families who fear retribution for working as interpreters or in other support roles for the United States.

Pentagon spokesman Kirby said that most of the troops shepherding the evacuation would be in place by Sunday and “will be able to move thousands per day” out of Afghanistan.

In his speech on Saturday, Ghani said he wanted to end the fighting.

“I have started extensive consultations inside the government with the elders, political leaders, representatives of people, and international partners on achieving a reasonable and certain political solution in which the peace and stability of the people of Afghanistan are envisaged,” he said.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1640607/afghan-president-ghani-says-remobilisation-of-armed-forces-top-priority
 
The way its looking right now Kabul will fall no later then middle of September.

Instead of blaming Pakistan, the people of Afghanistan should do some introspection. How do people in sandals and motorbikes, and using weapons from 50 years ago, humiliate a professional army like this? The Afghan Army outnumbers the Taliban, is better equipped than the Taliban, has an Air Force, and yet they have surrendered the majority of the country.
 
Gharib Aadmi said:
The way its looking right now Kabul will fall no later then middle of September.

Instead of blaming Pakistan, the people of Afghanistan should do some introspection. How do people in sandals and motorbikes, and using weapons from 50 years ago, humiliate a professional army like this? The Afghan Army outnumbers the Taliban, is better equipped than the Taliban, has an Air Force, and yet they have surrendered the majority of the country.
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Religious fanaticism helps motivate soldiers and Taliban have plenty of that. The Afghan government doesn't have much to motivate its soldiers, hence they are unwilling to fight.

The Taliban will win the war, but due to their religious fanaticism they will push their country back to the medieval times, with zero development of modern industries. After a few decades, if they are still in power they will be cutting each others throats as they struggle for power internally. That is the inescapable lesson from history.

Unfortunately for Pakistan, it has chosen to be Taliban's ally which will reinforce its image of a terrorist harboring country in the minds of Western nations, and will hold back the development of modern industries. Whatever Pakistan has gained from the Taliban victory will be far lesser than the costs.

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Afghanistan’s commercial hub, Mazar-i-Sharif, falls to the insurgents.

KABUL, Afghanistan — The last major city in northern Afghanistan fell to the Taliban on Saturday night, marking the complete loss of the country’s north to the Taliban as the insurgents appear on the verge of a full military takeover.

The collapse of Mazar-i-Sharif, the capital of Balkh Province and one of the last three major cities that had remained under government control, comes just a day after two key cities in southern and western Afghanistan were lost to the Taliban.

The Taliban seized the last northern holdout city barely an hour after breaking through the front lines at the city’s edge. Soon after, government security forces and militias fled — including those led by the infamous warlords Marshal Abdul Rashid Dostum and Atta Muhammad Noor — effectively handing control to the insurgents.

“Government forces and popular uprisings all left the city,” said Hashim Ahmadzai, a pro-government militia commander. “The Taliban seized government and military buildings. There was no resistance.”

The insurgents now effectively control the southern, western and northern regions of the country — just about encircling country’s capital, Kabul, as they press on in their rapid military offensive. The Taliban blitz began in May, but the insurgents have managed to seize more than half of Afghanistan’s provincial capitals in just over a week.

With the fall of Mazar-i-Sharif, the only two major cities left under government control are Kabul and Jalalabad, the capital of Nangarhar Province in the eastern part of the country.

The loss of the north — once the heart of resistance to the insurgents’ rise to power in 1996 — to the Taliban offered a devastating blow to morale for a country gripped with panic.

In the late 1990s, Mazar-i-Sharif was the site of pitched battles between the Taliban and northern militia groups that managed to push back the hard-line insurgents before the group took over the city in 1998. The victory followed infighting and defections among the militias and culminated with the Taliban’s ethnically charged massacre of hundreds of militia fighters who had surrendered.

During the current Taliban military campaign, Mazar’s defense was almost completely reliant on the reincarnations of some of those very same militias that have all but failed to hold their territory elsewhere in the north. Some are led by Mr. Dostum, an infamous warlord and a former Afghan vice president who has survived the past 40 years of war by cutting deals and switching sides.

Others were behind Mr. Noor, a longtime power broker and warlord in Balkh Province who fought the Soviets in the 1980s and the Taliban in the 1990s. During the civil war, he was a commander in Jamiat-i-Islami, an Islamist party in the country’s north, and he was a leading figure in the Northern Alliance that supported the American invasion in 2001. Shortly afterward, he became Balkh’s governor, deeply entrenched as the singular authority in the province. He refused to leave his position after President Ashraf Ghani fired him in 2017.

“The army is not fighting — it is only Atta Noor and Dostum’s militias defending the city,” said Mohammad Ibrahim Khairandesh, a former provincial council member who now lives in the city. “The situation is critical, and it’s getting worse.”

Following the U.S. invasion in 2001, which more or less began with the capture of Mazar-i-Sharif by the Northern Alliance on the heels of a heavy American bombing campaign, Balkh Province became one of the most stable provinces in the country.

Its position along the border with Uzbekistan and on a key trade route from Turkmenistan lifted the local economy. But in recent years, stability there has steadily declined as the government in Kabul has struggled with controlling provincial leadership and supplying the north with a sufficient number of security forces.

By Saturday night, the Taliban controlled around 20 of Afghanistan’s 34 provinces after Asadabad, the capital of Kunar Province in the country’s east, fell to the insurgents. The province was the site of some of the heaviest battles of the U.S. war, and its unforgiving terrain has long been home to foreign fighters who came across the nearby Pakistani border.

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In his dreamworld, Ghani
 
Below is not my material but from an online source, and its because of all this such a barbaric regime is about to be imposed on the people:

''Karzai's brother was a drug trafficker.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/world/asia/05afghan.html

They even suspected Karzai was a junkie.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...apr/07/hamid-karzai-galbraith-substance-abuse

He himself admitted how corrupt they were.

https://apnews.com/article/hamid-ka...-ap-top-news-1419420df4e2e7186222c38db3be707d

The Afghan army was fond of raping boys. The US military was told to ignore it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/24/us-military-sexual-abuse-children-afghanistan-allies

The military and police was also corrupt and incompent.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...ghanistan-papers/afghanistan-war-army-police/

Govt officials regularly smuggled cash abroad.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...c57b80-43b3-11e2-8061-253bccfc7532_story.html

They all have palaces. As well as places in Dubai (world's dirty money capital).

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.c...-officials-families-with-luxury-pads-in-dubai

The govt robbed its own banks.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/afghan-bank-scandal-shows-extent-of-corruption/a-16429096

NATO paid the Taliban not to attack them.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2009/oct/16/france-italy-taliban-afghanistan''


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No Talib ever forced me to pay bribes in exchange for not arresting me.<br><br>No Talib ever falsely arrested me in order to extort sex from me.<br><br>No Talib ever solicited sexual favors from me in exchange for granting me a business license.</p>— bibi janey (@janeygak) <a href="https://twitter.com/janeygak/status/1425757511181901830?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In all my time of living and working in Afghanistan, I didn't worry about the Talib Boogieman. My day to day was suffering at the hands of the Kabul government. Everything I wanted to do required bribes or connections. After Farkhunda's murder, I left Kabul with my broken heart.</p>— bibi janey (@janeygak) <a href="https://twitter.com/janeygak/status/1425759601195110406?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From the top to bottom, corruption and degeneracy plague the people. I know so many young people who made riches from scamming aid/grant money with fake NGOs, projects, living the life right now. Other women who LAUGHED in my face for wanting to work honestly in the free market.</p>— bibi janey (@janeygak) <a href="https://twitter.com/janeygak/status/1425766211716100100?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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Instead of blaming Pakistan maybe the Afghan government should have some self-awareness of why things have turned up so wrong that a stone age organisation is getting so much local support.
 
Varun said:
Hope Pakistan have learnt from the 20th century and doesn't repeat its mistakes into the 21st.

Back then it was doing the US bidding, now it may be doing China's.
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So India is now being a mercenary for the Quad
 
Tensions are rising in the Afghan capital, Kabul, as the Taliban continue their rapid advance towards the city.

The militants seized the eastern city of Jalalabad early on Sunday, leaving Kabul as the only major city still under government control.

It followed the capture on Saturday of the government's northern bastion of Mazar-i-Sharif.

The collapse of government forces has left President Ashraf Ghani under growing pressure to resign.

He appears to face a stark choice between surrender or a fight to hold the capital.

Meanwhile, the US said it was deploying 5,000 troops to help evacuate its nationals from the beleaguered country.

President Joe Biden has defended his decision to escalate the US withdrawal from Afghanistan, saying he could not justify an "endless American presence in the middle of another country's civil conflict".

What happened in Jalalabad?
Reports on Sunday morning said the Taliban took control of the city without a shot being fired.

"There are no clashes taking place right now in Jalalabad because the governor has surrendered to the Taliban," an Afghan official based in the city told Reuters news agency.

"Allowing passage to the Taliban was the only way to save civilian lives."

The capture of Jalalabad means the Taliban have secured the roads connecting the country with Pakistan.

It came hours after Mazar-i-Sharif - the capital of Balkh province and fourth-largest city in Afghanistan - also fell largely without a fight.

Abas Ebrahimzada, a lawmaker from Balkh, told the Associated Press news agency that the national army were the first to surrender, which then prompted pro-government forces and other militia to give up.

The insurgents now control 23 of 34 provincial capitals

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Varun said:
The Quad is a glorified climate change conference. Tell me otherwise when Australia is fighting for us in Ladakh.
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They ain't gonna fight for you but India will be cannon fodder for any conflict between the Quad and PRC.
 
Pakpak said:
Below is not my material but from an online source, and its because of all this such a barbaric regime is about to be imposed on the people:

''Karzai's brother was a drug trafficker.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/world/asia/05afghan.html

They even suspected Karzai was a junkie.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...apr/07/hamid-karzai-galbraith-substance-abuse

He himself admitted how corrupt they were.

https://apnews.com/article/hamid-ka...-ap-top-news-1419420df4e2e7186222c38db3be707d

The Afghan army was fond of raping boys. The US military was told to ignore it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/24/us-military-sexual-abuse-children-afghanistan-allies

The military and police was also corrupt and incompent.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...ghanistan-papers/afghanistan-war-army-police/

Govt officials regularly smuggled cash abroad.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...c57b80-43b3-11e2-8061-253bccfc7532_story.html

They all have palaces. As well as places in Dubai (world's dirty money capital).

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.c...-officials-families-with-luxury-pads-in-dubai

The govt robbed its own banks.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/afghan-bank-scandal-shows-extent-of-corruption/a-16429096

NATO paid the Taliban not to attack them.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2009/oct/16/france-italy-taliban-afghanistan''


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No Talib ever forced me to pay bribes in exchange for not arresting me.<br><br>No Talib ever falsely arrested me in order to extort sex from me.<br><br>No Talib ever solicited sexual favors from me in exchange for granting me a business license.</p>— bibi janey (@janeygak) <a href="https://twitter.com/janeygak/status/1425757511181901830?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In all my time of living and working in Afghanistan, I didn't worry about the Talib Boogieman. My day to day was suffering at the hands of the Kabul government. Everything I wanted to do required bribes or connections. After Farkhunda's murder, I left Kabul with my broken heart.</p>— bibi janey (@janeygak) <a href="https://twitter.com/janeygak/status/1425759601195110406?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From the top to bottom, corruption and degeneracy plague the people. I know so many young people who made riches from scamming aid/grant money with fake NGOs, projects, living the life right now. Other women who LAUGHED in my face for wanting to work honestly in the free market.</p>— bibi janey (@janeygak) <a href="https://twitter.com/janeygak/status/1425766211716100100?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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Instead of blaming Pakistan maybe the Afghan government should have some self-awareness of why things have turned up so wrong that a stone age organisation is getting so much local support.
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Amazing bloody post with quite some evidence. POTW for me! RSS extremists and afghans should take a look at this post.
 
End Game:

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Taliban orders its fighters to refrain from violence in Kabul

A Taliban leader in Doha has told fighters not to create violent scenes in the capital and allow safe passage to anyone who chooses to exit, according to Reuters news agency.

Kabul airport remains the only route out of Afghanistan.

However, women have also been told to move to protected areas - which seems in contradiction with orders to move in peacefully.

Taliban have started entering Kabul from all sides - Afghan interior ministry

Three Afghan officials have also confirmed Taliban militants have entered the outskirts of the city.

Kabul is the last major city that has not yet fallen to the Taliban.

SKY
 
KABUL, Aug 15 (Reuters) - Taliban insurgents captured the key eastern Afghanistan city of Jalalabad without a fight on Sunday, leaving the territory controlled by the crumbling government to little more than the capital Kabul.

The United States started evacuating its diplomats and was sending more troops to help secure Kabul airport and the embassy after the Taliban's lightning advances brought the Islamist group to the door of the capital in a matter of days.

Just last week, a U.S. intelligence estimate said Kabul could hold out for at least three months.

"We have a small batch of people leaving now as we speak, a majority of the staff are ready to leave," a U.S. official told Reuters on Sunday. "The embassy continues to function."

The fall of Jalalabad gives the insurgents control of a road leading to the Pakistan city of Peshawar, one of the main highways into landlocked Afghanistan.

It followed the Taliban's seizure of the northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif late on Saturday, also with little fighting.

"There are no clashes taking place right now in Jalalabad because the governor has surrendered to the Taliban," a Jalalabad-based Afghan official told Reuters. "Allowing passage to the Taliban was the only way to save civilian lives."

A second security official in the city said the Taliban had agreed to give safe passage to government officials and security forces while they leave Jalalabad. The decision to surrender was taken to avoid "casualties and destruction", the official said.

After U.S.-led forces withdrew the bulk of the their remaining troops in the last month, the Taliban campaign accelerated as the Afghan military's defences appeared to collapse.

President Joe Biden on Saturday authorised the deployment of 5,000 U.S. troops to help evacuate citizens and ensure an "orderly and safe" drawdown of military personnel. A U.S. defence official said that included 1,000 newly approved troops from the 82nd Airborne Division.

Taliban fighters entered Mazar-i-Sharif virtually unopposed as security forces escaped up the highway to Uzbekistan, about 80 km (50 miles) to the north, provincial officials said. Unverified video on social media showed Afghan army vehicles and men in uniforms crowding the iron bridge between the Afghan town of Hairatan and Uzbekistan.

Two influential militia leaders supporting the government - Atta Mohammad Noor and Abdul Rashid Dostum - also fled. Noor said on social media that the Taliban had been handed control of Balkh province, where Mazar-i-Sharif is located, due to a "conspiracy." read more

POPULARLY ACCEPTED

In a statement late on Saturday, the Taliban said its rapid gains showed it was popularly accepted by the Afghan people and reassured both Afghans and foreigners that they would be safe.

The Islamic Emirate, as the Taliban calls itself, "will, as always, protect their life, property and honour, and create a peaceful and secure environment for its beloved nation," it said, adding that diplomats and aid workers would also face no problems.

As the capital looked increasingly isolated as a government stronghold, Afghans streamed into Kabul, fleeing the provinces and fearing a return to hardline Islamist rule.

Early on Sunday, refugees from Taliban-controlled provinces were seen unloading belongings from taxis and families stood outside embassy gates, while the city's downtown was packed with people stocking up on supplies.

Hundreds of people slept huddled in tents or in the open in the city, by roadsides or in car parks, a resident said on Saturday night. "You can see the fear in their faces," he said.

Western governments were accelerating plans to evacuate their embassy staff, citizens and Afghans who had worked for them. The British ambassador will leave the country by Sunday evening, UK media reported.

An Iranian official said the embassy in Kabul would be evacuated by Monday.

The State Department was contacting advocates to request names of Afghans in Kabul who have worked with the Americans and needed to be evacuated, two sources familiar with the matter said. The list of names could include journalists and human rights activists.

Biden said his administration had told Taliban officials in talks in Qatar that any action that put U.S. personnel at risk "will be met with a swift and strong U.S. military response."

CLOSING IN ON KABUL

The Taliban, facing little resistance, took Pul-e-Alam, capital of Logar province and 70 km (40 miles) south of Kabul on Saturday, said a local provincial council member, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Police officials, however, denied reports that the Taliban had advanced closer to Kabul from Pul-e-Alam, which is a staging post for a potential assault on the capital.

Kandahar, the biggest city in the south and the heartland of the Taliban, fell to the militants' control on Friday. Herat, the biggest city in the west and near the border with Iran, also fell on Friday.

Biden has faced rising domestic criticism as the Taliban have taken city after city far more quickly than predicted. The president has stuck to a plan, initiated by his Republican predecessor, Donald Trump, to end the U.S. military mission in Afghanistan by Aug. 31.

Biden said it is up to the Afghan military to hold its own territory. "An endless American presence in the middle of another country's civil conflict was not acceptable to me," Biden said on Saturday.

Afghan President Ashraf Ghani on Saturday held talks with local leaders and international partners, including U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken. Ghani and Blinken discussed urgent efforts to reduce violence in Afghanistan, the State Department said.

Qatar, which has been hosting so-far inconclusive peace talks between the Afghan government and the Taliban, said it had urged the insurgents to cease fire. Ghani has given no sign of responding to a Taliban demand that he resign as a condition for any ceasefire.
 
'Absolute chaos at embassies as people try to get visas to leave Afghanistan'

By Stuart Ramsay, chief correspondent, in Kabul

We're getting unconfirmed reports that the presidential palace is now under lockdown, but that is unconfirmed. It all plays into the tension here, it is pretty bad.

Rumours are constant that the Taliban have had orders to attack, people hoping that British and American forces are on base and are preparing to perhaps move out from the airport to add some protection to the city.

Will the Taliban try to take on those British and American forces? Will those British and American forces be able to secure the airport while thousands of people are attempting to be evacuated.
We know British nationals are being rung and being offered places on military planes. So far, we know they're filled, there was one yesterday and there'll be another and they're probably going at night.

The Taliban has moved incredibly quickly, the fall of these towns initially was a shock but by yesterday we could see the movement on the maps getting nearer as province after province and town after town fell, or rather was handed over to the Taliban.
So it was inevitable that Jalalabad would go.

The only way out is the airport and, as you can imagine, there are large queues there of people trying to get on commercial flights.

And there is absolute chaos at some of the embassies, particularly Turkey and Iran, where people are gathering in their thousands trying to get visas to go to those countries.

A lot of people are very scared, trying to get out.

And there are a lot of people who accept they don't have the wherewithal and the contacts to get out and won't be getting visas to go anywhere.

Lots of people saying they just want peace and if the Taliban take over peacefully then will it be any different to the current government, so it's an interesting dynamic.
 
Joe Biden has vowed not to pass on the Afghanistan war to a fifth US president - and has announced he is sending 5,000 more troops to Kabul.

His administration has warned Taliban officials any actions that put American personnel at risk "will be met with a swift and strong US military response".

Mr Biden has defended his decision to withdraw US troops from the country, and says the task of fighting back against Taliban insurgents must fall to Afghan forces.

Warning that an indefinite US military presence in Afghanistan is not an option, the president added: "One more year, or five more years, of US military presence would not have made a difference if the Afghan military cannot or will not hold its own country. And an endless American presence in the middle of another country's civil conflict was not acceptable to me."

Of the 5,000 soldiers that Mr Biden announced, about 1,000 are newly approved.

Mr Biden said: "When I came to office, I inherited a deal cut by my predecessor - which he invited the Taliban to discuss at Camp David on the eve of 9/11 of 2019 - that left the Taliban in the strongest position militarily since 2001 and imposed a 1 May 2021 deadline on US forces.

"Shortly before he left office, he also drew US forces down to a bare minimum of 2,500.

"Therefore, when I became president, I faced a choice - follow through on the deal, with a brief extension to get our forces and our allies' forces out safely, or ramp up our presence and send more American troops to fight once again in another country's civil conflict.

"I was the fourth president to preside over an American troop presence in Afghanistan - two Republicans, two Democrats. I would not, and will not, pass this war onto a fifth."

The deployment comes as Afghanistan's government clings on to Kabul and Jalalabad, the only remaining big cities in its control as the Taliban advances.

The hardline Islamist militant group has swept through the country in recent weeks. Yesterday, fighters entered Mazar-e-Sharif virtually unopposed, with security forces escaping to neighbouring Uzbekistan.

Late last night, the Taliban said that its rapid gains show that it has been popularly accepted - and attempted to reassure Afghans and foreigners, including diplomats and aid workers, that they would be sage.

"The Islamic Emirate will, as always, protest their life, property and honour and create a peaceful and secure environment for its beloved nation," it said.

Hundreds of people have been sleeping in tents or in the open air in Kabul, with one resident saying: "You can see the fear in their faces."

The UK is among the countries that is currently evacuating British nationals and local translators - and this weekend, 600 troops are being sent to assist with this effort.

According to The Sunday Telegraph, Britain's ambassador to Afghanistan Sir Laurie Bristow is going to be flown out of the country by tonight.

Ben Wallace, the UK's defence secretary, has warned it is "arrogant" to think the UK could unilaterally prevent Afghanistan falling back into the grip of the Taliban.

Afghanistan's president, Ashraf Ghani, gave a televised speech yesterday in which he vowed not to give up on the "achievements" of the last 20 years, when US soldiers first toppled the Taliban.

Peace talks between the Taliban and the US have continued in Doha, Qatar, with warnings that a regime installed by force will not be recognised - all the while militants continue to seize control of Afghanistan.

Tweeting about Mr Biden's latest statement, Conservative MP, former soldier and chair of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee Tom Tugendhat wrote: "President Biden isn't handing over a smouldering conflict, he's seeding a new conflagration."
 
Pakpak said:
Below is not my material but from an online source, and its because of all this such a barbaric regime is about to be imposed on the people:

''Karzai's brother was a drug trafficker.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/world/asia/05afghan.html

They even suspected Karzai was a junkie.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...apr/07/hamid-karzai-galbraith-substance-abuse

He himself admitted how corrupt they were.

https://apnews.com/article/hamid-ka...-ap-top-news-1419420df4e2e7186222c38db3be707d

The Afghan army was fond of raping boys. The US military was told to ignore it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/24/us-military-sexual-abuse-children-afghanistan-allies

The military and police was also corrupt and incompent.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...ghanistan-papers/afghanistan-war-army-police/

Govt officials regularly smuggled cash abroad.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...c57b80-43b3-11e2-8061-253bccfc7532_story.html

They all have palaces. As well as places in Dubai (world's dirty money capital).

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.c...-officials-families-with-luxury-pads-in-dubai

The govt robbed its own banks.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/afghan-bank-scandal-shows-extent-of-corruption/a-16429096

NATO paid the Taliban not to attack them.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2009/oct/16/france-italy-taliban-afghanistan''


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No Talib ever forced me to pay bribes in exchange for not arresting me.<br><br>No Talib ever falsely arrested me in order to extort sex from me.<br><br>No Talib ever solicited sexual favors from me in exchange for granting me a business license.</p>— bibi janey (@janeygak) <a href="https://twitter.com/janeygak/status/1425757511181901830?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In all my time of living and working in Afghanistan, I didn't worry about the Talib Boogieman. My day to day was suffering at the hands of the Kabul government. Everything I wanted to do required bribes or connections. After Farkhunda's murder, I left Kabul with my broken heart.</p>— bibi janey (@janeygak) <a href="https://twitter.com/janeygak/status/1425759601195110406?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From the top to bottom, corruption and degeneracy plague the people. I know so many young people who made riches from scamming aid/grant money with fake NGOs, projects, living the life right now. Other women who LAUGHED in my face for wanting to work honestly in the free market.</p>— bibi janey (@janeygak) <a href="https://twitter.com/janeygak/status/1425766211716100100?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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Instead of blaming Pakistan maybe the Afghan government should have some self-awareness of why things have turned up so wrong that a stone age organisation is getting so much local support.
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Taliban are not some standard of good governance....

Taliban is equally involved in human rights violation as they have done so last time they were in control of the govt.

Afghanistan govt in place was always known to be a puppet, especially considering the fact that dostum and gulbaddin hekmatyer who themselves were warlords and always alligned with anyone who benefitted them.

The country is doomed and i really feel sorry for the Afghanis who want a better life.

Pakistan has played its part in supporting the taliban in the past which is why the resentment from afghanis for Pakistan could be understandable.

Just went on Snapchat and it was just sad what the situation is in kabul as everyone is approaching towards the airport.

Reminds me of a scene of sierre leone from the movie blood diamond, where the capital that once had normal life was eventually turned into a hell
 
There goes billions of dollars of investment of India in Afghanistan. It was Indian taxpayers money and they must hold accountable to those who gave them this idea to give their money to puppets in Afghanistan. Now everything in in control of Taliban.
 
The Afghan president Ghani is relinquishing power and an interim government led by Taliban is formed — Al Arabiya
 
Taliban negotiators heading to presidential palace to prepare for 'transfer' of power

An Afghan official has told Associated Press that Taliban negotiators are going to the presidential palace now to prepare for a "transfer" of power to them.

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Afghan government says it will hand over Kabul to the Taliban peacefully

Acting Afghan Interior Minister Abdul Sattar Mirzakwal has said Kabul will not be attacked and the transfer of power to the Taliban will take place peacefully.

He said the security of Kabul is the responsibility of the security forces.
 
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Hamid Mir has just tweeted this

Afghan National Army is not ready to fight for Ashraf Ghani they ran away from Asadabad city in Kunar province of Eastren Afghanistan yesterday and fired bullets in the air just for the self-defence from some stone pelters
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Giannis said:
Are you dumb? The APS attack happened 7 years ago in December 2014 - As of right now, 08/13/2021 Pakistan has been victorious over the Taliban for the past 4-5 years now. The APS school attack also happened in the early months of Operation Zarb-e-Azb and before the National Action Plan was formulated which led to the TTP being routed from the tribal areas and their sleepers from across the country. Moreover you're so outdated and out of touch that the operation was latter succeeded by another one in 2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Radd-ul-Fasaad which has resulted in a ~ 90% decline in terrorism in Pakistan. .

Also since you're still stuck in 2014, I'll also inform you that since then not only has Pakistan experienced a sharp reduction in terrorist attacks but Pakistan has also been able to establish their writ and rule of law in the former tribal areas which have since been fully integrated into the Province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa thus officially merging it constitutionally with the Pakistan federation and repelling the colonial-era FCR.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/5/24/pakistan-parliament-passes-landmark-tribal-areas-reform
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In hindsight all that happened, but when people here blame that Afghanistan are not standing up, Pakistan was no different as they allowed the ttp to takeover Swat. Anyone who stood up against them are still being bashed and insulted and being labelled as American stooge.

For operations like Zarb e Azab to happen, it only took place after we allowed the deaths of APS children take place.
Yes we can all now rejoice that we were able to remove TTP, but we did it after we allowed them to continuously bomb the country and it was only in 2014 the century woke up.

Removing the TTP was never an achievement considering the fact that we literally allowed them to do anything they wanted for years. Establishing law and order isn't an achievement but the duty that should had been fulfilled long before.

Thus, as i initially posted, before bashing the Afghanis for not standing up to the Afghan Taliban, we need to look at our ownselves at how we just laid infront of our TTP and allowed them to not only kill the locals but even released the Ehsanullah
 
The great Afghan army trained by the American's couldn't last a week without their masters. Kabul can fall anytime to the Taliban. We are back to where we are before 9/11, only difference is America has wasted $2 trillion. Ashraf Ghani either have to move abroad or he will be killed by the Taliban for being in cahoots with the enemy. Northern Alliance who once challenged the Taliban have now ceased to exist it seems just like Vajpayee who was celebrating after the American's invaded Afghanistan.

All these people are going or gone, the Taliban are still here. The only reason I support the Taliban is because the will not allow India or America to cause terrorism in Pakistan. I do not at all support their culture or brand of Islam let that be made clear.
 
Its done. The transfer of power will now commence "smoothly" as per their interior minister. Atleast Kabul is spared for now
 
Gharib Aadmi said:
The way its looking right now Kabul will fall no later then middle of September.

Instead of blaming Pakistan, the people of Afghanistan should do some introspection. How do people in sandals and motorbikes, and using weapons from 50 years ago, humiliate a professional army like this? The Afghan Army outnumbers the Taliban, is better equipped than the Taliban, has an Air Force, and yet they have surrendered the majority of the country.
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Many people here under estimate the Afghanistan here.

Its strategically very impossible to control whole of Afghanistan due to many factors.

One of the issues is the Land of Afghanistan itself. Its very rugged and full of mountains. Thus, the locals of those areas will always have a strategic advantage when defending these lands. Locals know the land better and whenever they have to defend they will enter the mountain trails and hold the advantage. The war there is basically fought in a way that you try to reduce the resources of the enemy by prolonging the fight. Thats what they were doing with USA that was costing the Americans alot of dollars. Even last year, alot of the land was under the Taliban.

The country is the size of France, yet they have 34 provinces. Before the 60s they had 7-8 provinces and that allowed somewhat of a control over it. The Kandahar region which is bit flat and desert liked compared to the rest of the country, yet it is divided in 3 provinces.

Another issue is the literacy. Now here i would assume that most of the Taliban ideology is supported by those who live in the far flung areas. You won't see Taliban support that much at Kabul as its bit more developed compared to the rest of the country and people know the value of living in modern day life. The rest of the country is more backward and is probably against adopting modern day life.

Thus, to fight the Taliban, you need money, time and good leadership. Due tot he corruption that exists, the army there doesnt trust the govt. Dostum a Warload had gold plates and tables at his palace while the country isnt able to feed its people. Corruption is also riffed at Kabul, thus the mistrsut exists between the army and the top leadership which is why decisions arent being followed or trusted.

Plus, money is needed to keep on fighting the talibans who will retreat to their regions and than prolong the war and make you spend mroe on resouces. Thus, economically crippling the enemy.

It is rumored that Taliban gets its support from the neighboring countries like Iran and Pakistan. The problem with the neighboring countries is that they dont act up which that leads to the civil war spilling into our lands. Eventually to win the hearts of the Afghanis we will be taking in refugees. But Pakistan and Iran dont understand the threat that will now exists or that spills over to these regions.

The Taliban ideology that gets supported from Pakistan is very dangerous for us. The ideology itself spills over here. Pakistani people think that by having our own favorite govt in Afghanistan we will lead to better ties with Pakistan.
Well guise what, the Afghani population will further hate Pakistan more. And if TTP decides to rise up or the ideology gets spilled over here, India could easily support or rally behind that ideology which could create more problems for us. In coming years, we might again be labelled as a country that supports terrorism.

Thus, stability in Afghanistan does not lye only on the local Afghans, but also on its neighbors aswell
 
Major said:
Taliban are not some standard of good governance....

Taliban is equally involved in human rights violation as they have done so last time they were in control of the govt.

Afghanistan govt in place was always known to be a puppet, especially considering the fact that dostum and gulbaddin hekmatyer who themselves were warlords and always alligned with anyone who benefitted them.

The country is doomed and i really feel sorry for the Afghanis who want a better life.

Pakistan has played its part in supporting the taliban in the past which is why the resentment from afghanis for Pakistan could be understandable.

Just went on Snapchat and it was just sad what the situation is in kabul as everyone is approaching towards the airport.

Reminds me of a scene of sierre leone from the movie blood diamond, where the capital that once had normal life was eventually turned into a hell
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Yes, Taliban are a barbaric regime. I said that twice in my post.

My point was the Afghan government should admit they are the reason why Taliban have had so much success.
 
Pakpak said:
Yes, Taliban are a barbaric regime. I said that twice in my post.

My point was the Afghan government should admit they are the reason why Taliban have had so much success.
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bro, we also have corruption in our country. But that doesnt justify a TLP taking over.

I am really sad about Taliban taking over Afghanistan. Although they will be able to control the whole country, but i really hope that this time they are much more reformed and believe in modern day life.

But looking at their warriors and Ak47 blazing jahils, i doubt they will be any different from lastime.
 
Major said:
bro, we also have corruption in our country. But that doesnt justify a TLP taking over.

I am really sad about Taliban taking over Afghanistan. Although they will be able to control the whole country, but i really hope that this time they are much more reformed and believe in modern day life.

But looking at their warriors and Ak47 blazing jahils, i doubt they will be any different from lastime.
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Our corruption in our country is nothing like Afghanistan. Afghanistans ruling elite in Kabul was funded by the US. And depended on the US. Their loyalty was to the US and their dollars. Once those dollars finished they crumbled in a week.

Noone wanted to fight the Taliban against the government. That should tell us enough about how horrid their government has done that they chose an organisation like Taliban.
 
Reports coming out on Ghani leaving the country.
 
Afghanistan is desperate need of peace after years of war. Whether the Taliban can bring peace is highly doubtful, they are not good people as they lack the spirit of Islam. The only thing I am happy about is that the Ind proxies will get a good kicking but would i want to live under them, no chance.
 
Taliban spokesperson says they will respect the rights of women and allow them access to education

Concerns have been raised that the Taliban's takeover will result in women being shut off from work and education.

We know from experience that women previously had few rights under Taliban rule.

But the group has claimed it has changed and it will allow women to work, go to school, leave their homes alone and wear the hijab.

Critics will be, understandably, unconvinced.


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Former interior minister likely to head up interim administration in Kabul - Reuters

Ali Ahmad Jalali, a US-based academic and former Afghan interior minister, is likely to head up an interim administration in the capital, three diplomatic sources have told Reuters news agency.

Earlier, acting interior minister Abdul Sattar Mirzakwal told the nation in a televised address that a peaceful transition would take place.

No details have been confirmed yet and it's not immediately clear whether the Taliban have given their approval to Mr Jalali's appointment.

However, he has been seen as a potentially acceptable compromise to oversee the transition of power.
 
Conservative MP hits out at 'shameful' decision to withdraw

Johnny Mercer, who himself served three tours in Afghanistan, has heavily criticised the UK's withdrawal of troops.

"We have politically decided to be defeated by the Taliban and we have to accept that," he told Sky News.

"Personally I think it's shameful. It's out of keeping with our values and our principles.

"I never thought I'd see the day either as a serviceman or as a member of the Conservative Party where we would essentially surrender to the Taliban and leave these people to their fate."

The Tory MP called the situation in Afghanistan "appalling" and issued a warning to those in his own party.

"UK ministers and the prime minister will be very careful about underplaying the impacts this will have in Afghanistan but also on the service community and also on this country," he said.

"I think they should be very careful before underplaying that." Conservative MP hits out at 'shameful' decision to withdraw

Johnny Mercer, who himself served three tours in Afghanistan, has heavily criticised the UK's withdrawal of troops.

"We have politically decided to be defeated by the Taliban and we have to accept that," he told Sky News.

"Personally I think it's shameful. It's out of keeping with our values and our principles.

"I never thought I'd see the day either as a serviceman or as a member of the Conservative Party where we would essentially surrender to the Taliban and leave these people to their fate."

The Tory MP called the situation in Afghanistan "appalling" and issued a warning to those in his own party.

"UK ministers and the prime minister will be very careful about underplaying the impacts this will have in Afghanistan but also on the service community and also on this country," he said.

"I think they should be very careful before underplaying that."
 
Conservative MP hits out at 'shameful' decision to withdraw

Johnny Mercer, who himself served three tours in Afghanistan, has heavily criticised the UK's withdrawal of troops.

"We have politically decided to be defeated by the Taliban and we have to accept that," he told Sky News.

"Personally I think it's shameful. It's out of keeping with our values and our principles.

"I never thought I'd see the day either as a serviceman or as a member of the Conservative Party where we would essentially surrender to the Taliban and leave these people to their fate."

The Tory MP called the situation in Afghanistan "appalling" and issued a warning to those in his own party.

"UK ministers and the prime minister will be very careful about underplaying the impacts this will have in Afghanistan but also on the service community and also on this country," he said.

"I think they should be very careful before underplaying that." Conservative MP hits out at 'shameful' decision to withdraw

Johnny Mercer, who himself served three tours in Afghanistan, has heavily criticised the UK's withdrawal of troops.

"We have politically decided to be defeated by the Taliban and we have to accept that," he told Sky News.

"Personally I think it's shameful. It's out of keeping with our values and our principles.

"I never thought I'd see the day either as a serviceman or as a member of the Conservative Party where we would essentially surrender to the Taliban and leave these people to their fate."

The Tory MP called the situation in Afghanistan "appalling" and issued a warning to those in his own party.

"UK ministers and the prime minister will be very careful about underplaying the impacts this will have in Afghanistan but also on the service community and also on this country," he said.

"I think they should be very careful before underplaying that."
 
Pakistan\s Ambassador to Afghanistan, Mansoor Ahmed Khan announced via Twitter Sunday that Pakistan will be facilitating visas for Afghan journalists and families.

As the crisis within Afghanistan unfolds and the Taliban prepare to take over the Afghan capital, Kabul-based embassies and consulates of international countries are closing and telling their nationals to leave the country.

Mansoor Ahmed Khan on Twitter wrote that the Pakistan Embassy is specially facilitating visas for Afghan journalists and their families in this period of uncertainty.

He added that media people requiring visas may contact the Press Counsellor and they will be facilitated.
 
Taliban seize Bagram military prison 25 km north of Kabul, free inmates

The Taliban have taken control of Bagram Prison, located on Bagram air base, and set free the inmates, mostly Taliban fighters, who were imprisoned there.

The Bagram air base, which used to be the largest US military base in the country, is now under the Taliban's control.

The Bagram Prison was controlled by the US forces who were stationed in Afghanistan. Following the decision to withdraw American troops from the country, control of the prison was passed on to the Afghan Armed Forces on July 1.

Afghan forces at Bagram air base, home to a prison housing 5,000 inmates, surrendered to the Taliban, according to Bagram district chief Darwaish Raufi. The prison at the former US base held both Taliban and Islamic State group fighters, news agency AP reported.

In a nationwide offensive that has taken just over a week, the Taliban have defeated, co-opted or sent Afghan security forces fleeing from wide swaths of the country, even though they had some air support from the U.S. military.

On Sunday, they reached Kabul. Three Afghan officials told The Associated Press that the Taliban were in the districts of Kalakan, Qarabagh and Paghman in the capital and awaiting a "peaceful transfer" of the city after promising not to take it by force.

Taliban spokesman Suhail Shaheen told Qatar's Al-Jazeera English satellite news channel that the insurgents were in the process of negotiating with the government.

But when pressed on what kind of agreement the Taliban wanted, Shaheen acknowledged that they were seeking an unconditional surrender by the central government.

Taliban negotiators headed to the presidential palace Sunday to discuss the transfer, said an Afghan official who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals. It remained unclear when that transfer would take place.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/taliban-seize-bagram-military-prison-25-km-north-of-kabul-free-inmates/ar-AANlbWe?ocid=ob-tw-enin-476
 
Afghanistan will have 'peaceful transfer of power' to 'transitional government': interior minister

KABUL:
Afghanistan Minister of Interior General Abdul Satar Mirzakwal announced on Sunday that there will be a 'peaceful transfer of power' to a 'transitional government' hours after the Taliban began entering Kabul.

The AFP further reported that Russia said that an emergency UN Security Council meeting on Afghanistan was planned.

Soon after an Afghanistan interior ministry official confirmed reports of Taliban entering Kabul from all sides earlier in the day, a spokesperson for the Taliban stated that the fighters have been ordered to remain at the city’s gates, and not enter it.

The Taliban's announcement signalled the insurgents were confident of taking power imminently, as the United States and other nations rushed to evacuate their citizens from the capital.

"The Islamic Emirate instructs all its forces to stand at the gates of Kabul, not to try to enter the city," a spokesperson for the Taliban tweeted.

"Until the completion of the transition process, the responsibility for the security of Kabul is with the other side (the Afghan government)".

The order came as residents reported seeing insurgents peacefully enter some of Kabul's outer suburbs, triggering panic and fear.

"I saw police taking off their uniforms and putting on shalwar kameez," said one resident, referring to traditional South Asian clothing.

The capture of Kabul would cap an astonishing rout of government forces and warlord militias across all of Afghanistan's major cities achieved in just 10 days.

It would also see the hardline militant group take back power two decades after US-led forces toppled it in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks.

The scale and speed of the insurgents advance have shocked Afghans and the US-led alliance that poured billions into the country over the past two decades.

Peaceful transfer

While speaking to the local media, acting Afghan Interior Minister Abdul Sattar Mirzkwal said that Kabul will not be attacked and the transfer will take place peacefully.

"The security of Kabul is the responsibility of the security forces," he said.

President Ashraf Ghani's government was left completely isolated on Sunday after the Taliban claimed the anti-Taliban northern stronghold of Mazar-i-Sharif and the eastern city of Jalalabad.

Like with most of the other captured cities, the seizure of power came after government forces surrendered or retreated.

It left the Taliban holding all the cards in any negotiated surrender of the capital.

On Saturday Ghani sought to project authority with a national address in which he spoke of "re-mobilising" the military while seeking a "political solution" to the crisis.

Ghani offered no public comments on Sunday.

Evacuations

President Joe Biden ordered the deployment of an additional 1,000 US troops to help secure the emergency evacuation from Kabul of embassy employees and thousands of Afghans who worked for American forces and now fear Taliban reprisals.

That was on top of the 3,000 American soldiers deployed in recent days, and 1,000 left in-country after Biden announced in May that the final withdrawal of the 20-year military presence in Afghanistan would be completed by September 11.

That decision has come under increased scrutiny given the collapse of the Afghan armed forces, but he insisted Saturday there was no choice.

"I was the fourth president to preside over an American troop presence in Afghanistan - two Republicans, two Democrats. I would not, and will not, pass this war onto a fifth," Biden said.

Taliban celebration

Videos posted on pro-Taliban social media accounts showed the group's heavily armed fighters in cities across the country, waving white flags and greeting locals.

Most of the fighters appeared young, suggesting they were most likely infants or unborn when the Taliban was toppled from power in 2001.

In Mazar-i-Sharif, Taliban fighters quickly took charge on Sunday.

"They are parading on their vehicles and motorbikes, firing into the air in celebration," said Atiqullah Ghayor, who lives near the city's famed blue mosque.

Warlords Abdul Rashid Dostum and Atta Mohammad Noor, who had led a militia resistance in the city to support government forces, had fled to Uzbekistan, about 30 kilometres to the north, an aide to Noor said.

Panic

As the Taliban closed in on the capital, panicked residents swarmed banks for a second-straight day, hoping to withdraw their savings.

Many were already resigned to the Taliban taking power.

"My only wish is that their return leads to peace. That is all we want," said Kabul shopkeeper Tariq Nezami.

For the tens of thousands who have sought refuge in Kabul in recent weeks, the overwhelming mood was one of apprehension and fear.

One doctor who arrived in the capital with his 35-strong family from Kunduz said he planned to return today.

"I am worried there will be a lot of fighting here. I would rather return home, where I know it has stopped," he told AFP, asking not to be named.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2315747/afghanistan-will-have-peaceful-transfer-of-power-to-transitional-government-interior-minister
 
Afghanistan News LIVE Updates: President Ghani Resigns, V-P Saleh to Leave Country; 'Complete Anarchy' in Kabul

Afghan Interior Minister Abdul Sattar Mirzakwal said Sunday there would be a “peaceful transfer of power” to a transitional government, after the Taliban ordered its fighters to hold back from entering Kabul.

“The Afghan people should not worry… There will be no attack on the city and there will be a peaceful transfer of power to the transitional government,” he said in a recorded speech.

Taliban fighters entered the outskirts of Kabul on Sunday as panicked workers fled government offices and helicopters began landing at the U.S. Embassy in the Afghan capital, further tightening the militants’ grip on the country. Three Afghan officials told The Associated Press that the fighters were in the districts of Kalakan, Qarabagh and Paghman in the capital. The militants themselves didn’t acknowledge the advance, though they earlier took Jalalabad, near a major border crossing with Pakistan, the last major city other than Kabul not under their control.

The insurgents took control of the key eastern city of Jalalabad on Sunday, just hours after the seizing the northern anti-Taliban bastion of Mazar-i-Sharif — furthering an astonishing rout of government forces and warlord militias achieved in just 10 days.

Taliban fighters on Saturday had captured the key northern Afghan city of Mazar-i-Sharif and closed in on Kabul, as US President Joe Biden sent more troops to evacuate American personnel and their allies. Just before residents confirmed the fall of Mazar-i-Sharif, once an anti-Taliban bastion, beleaguered Afghan President Ashraf Ghani addressed the nation, vowing to prevent further bloodshed, despite the rout suffered by Afghan forces over the last 10 days.

But Ghani — who went to Mazar-i-Sharif just days ago to rally his faltering troops — gave no hint in his speech that he would take responsibility for the calamitous military collapse or resign. Kabul has effectively become the besieged last stand for government forces, who have offered little or no resistance elsewhere.

News18 had earlier reported that Taliban have reached a district of Kabul, 10 kms away from the main city, with the United States and other countries scrambling to airlift their nationals to safety ahead of a feared all-out assault.

As a new wave of US military personnel landed to oversee the evacuation of embassy employees and thousands of Afghans who worked for US forces and now fear Taliban reprisals, Biden said more soldiers would follow.

“I have authorized the deployment of approximately 5,000 US troops” to oversee both the evacuations and the final withdrawal of US forces after 20 years on the ground, Biden said after meeting with his national security team. That represented an influx of 1,000 troops, from the roughly 1,000 already on the ground, and 3,000 soldiers ordered in a few days ago, a US defense official said.

In his first address to the nation since the Taliban launched their sweeping offensive, which was recorded, Ghani said he wanted to stop the violence. “I will not let the imposed war on people cause more deaths,” he said, appearing sombre and sitting before an Afghan flag.

Ghani said the armed forces could be “remobilized” and consultations were taking place to try to help end the fighting, but offered few specifics on what his administration was planning. The presidential palace later said “a delegation with authority should soon be appointed by the government and be ready for negotiation”. Further details were not immediately available.

https://www.news18.com/news/world/afghanistan-news-taliban-kabul-mazar-i-sharif-ashraf-ghani-india-us-herat-4087322.html#gotobody
 
King_Kohli said:
Afghanistan News LIVE Updates: President Ghani Resigns, V-P Saleh to Leave Country; 'Complete Anarchy' in Kabul

Afghan Interior Minister Abdul Sattar Mirzakwal said Sunday there would be a “peaceful transfer of power” to a transitional government, after the Taliban ordered its fighters to hold back from entering Kabul.

“The Afghan people should not worry… There will be no attack on the city and there will be a peaceful transfer of power to the transitional government,” he said in a recorded speech.

Taliban fighters entered the outskirts of Kabul on Sunday as panicked workers fled government offices and helicopters began landing at the U.S. Embassy in the Afghan capital, further tightening the militants’ grip on the country. Three Afghan officials told The Associated Press that the fighters were in the districts of Kalakan, Qarabagh and Paghman in the capital. The militants themselves didn’t acknowledge the advance, though they earlier took Jalalabad, near a major border crossing with Pakistan, the last major city other than Kabul not under their control.

The insurgents took control of the key eastern city of Jalalabad on Sunday, just hours after the seizing the northern anti-Taliban bastion of Mazar-i-Sharif — furthering an astonishing rout of government forces and warlord militias achieved in just 10 days.

Taliban fighters on Saturday had captured the key northern Afghan city of Mazar-i-Sharif and closed in on Kabul, as US President Joe Biden sent more troops to evacuate American personnel and their allies. Just before residents confirmed the fall of Mazar-i-Sharif, once an anti-Taliban bastion, beleaguered Afghan President Ashraf Ghani addressed the nation, vowing to prevent further bloodshed, despite the rout suffered by Afghan forces over the last 10 days.

But Ghani — who went to Mazar-i-Sharif just days ago to rally his faltering troops — gave no hint in his speech that he would take responsibility for the calamitous military collapse or resign. Kabul has effectively become the besieged last stand for government forces, who have offered little or no resistance elsewhere.

News18 had earlier reported that Taliban have reached a district of Kabul, 10 kms away from the main city, with the United States and other countries scrambling to airlift their nationals to safety ahead of a feared all-out assault.

As a new wave of US military personnel landed to oversee the evacuation of embassy employees and thousands of Afghans who worked for US forces and now fear Taliban reprisals, Biden said more soldiers would follow.

“I have authorized the deployment of approximately 5,000 US troops” to oversee both the evacuations and the final withdrawal of US forces after 20 years on the ground, Biden said after meeting with his national security team. That represented an influx of 1,000 troops, from the roughly 1,000 already on the ground, and 3,000 soldiers ordered in a few days ago, a US defense official said.

In his first address to the nation since the Taliban launched their sweeping offensive, which was recorded, Ghani said he wanted to stop the violence. “I will not let the imposed war on people cause more deaths,” he said, appearing sombre and sitting before an Afghan flag.

Ghani said the armed forces could be “remobilized” and consultations were taking place to try to help end the fighting, but offered few specifics on what his administration was planning. The presidential palace later said “a delegation with authority should soon be appointed by the government and be ready for negotiation”. Further details were not immediately available.

https://www.news18.com/news/world/afghanistan-news-taliban-kabul-mazar-i-sharif-ashraf-ghani-india-us-herat-4087322.html#gotobody
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Amarullah Saleh should be handed over to Pakistan.
 
Afghan media saying that President Ghani has already left the country. He is in Tajikistan as per news.
 
Malala: 'Refugees and civilians must be protected'

Malala Yousafzai says she is "deeply worried about women, minorities and human rights advocates" as the Taliban takes control in Afghanistan.

The women's rights and education activist urged global powers to call for "an immediate ceasefire" and to protect refugees and civilians.

There is concern that under Taliban rule, women's rights could deteriorate in Afghanistan. When the militants previously ruled the country, girls over the age of 12 did not receive an education and women could not leave their house without a face covering and a male relative chaperoning them.
 
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Blame game starts. This is their Defence Minister

دست ما را از پشت بستند و وطن را فروختند لعنت به غنی و دار دسته اش.

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They tied our hands behind our backs and sold the homeland, damn the rich man and his gang.
 
Former President Ashraf Ghani has left the people in a bad condition, video message of Dr. Abdullah Abdullah
 
Not surprised. I hope Gani the drug smuggler and his band of pedophiles get convicted for their crimes against Afghans.
 
Does anyone think Pakistan Army/ISI has a role in Afghan Taliban takeover of Afghanistan? I want a well analysed and properly researched answer please.
 
#Taliban fighters have entered the Presidential Palace in #Kabul and taken over the control.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/15/a-tale-of-two-armies-why-afghan-forces-proved-no-match-for-the-taliban

The Taliban have 80,000 troops in comparison with a nominal 300,699 serving the Afghan government, yet the whole country has been effectively overrun in a matter of weeks as military commanders surrendered without a fight in a matter of hours.

It is a tale of two armies, one poorly equipped but highly motivated ideologically, and the other nominally well-equipped, but dependent on Nato support, poorly led and riddled with corruption.

The US aid spending watchdog for Afghanistan warned last month that the US military had little or no means of knowing the capability of the Afghan National Defense and Security forces (ANDSF) when required to operate independently of the US forces, despite spending $88.3bn on security-related reconstruction in Afghanistan up to March 2021.

It found the US military to be persistently overoptimistic about Afghan military capability, even though it had no reliable evidence to make that assessment, and said the departure of thousands of US contractors, agreed by the US with the Taliban in 2020, “could significantly impact the sustainability of the ANDSF, in particular their ability to maintain aircraft and vehicles”.

The watchdog had, it said, repeatedly warned about “the corrosive effects of corruption” within the force. With its reliance on advanced equipment, and with widespread illiteracy in its ranks, the force could not reliably maintain its strength and combat readiness.

Of the $88.3bn spent, the watchdog said: “The question of whether that money was well spent will ultimately be answered by the outcome of the fighting on the ground, perhaps the purest monitoring and evaluation exercise.”

The report’s clear warnings are likely to be reviewed by US Congress as it seeks to understand why such vast spending on training the Afghan military has led to a collapse to the Taliban in a matter of weeks, leaving western politicians shocked and bemused.

It also raises the question of why the Biden administration ever thought it was safe to leave Afghan forces on their own after a decades of dependence on the US for key skills, including air cover, logistics, maintenance, and training support for ANDSF ground vehicles and aircraft; security; base support; and transportation services. The US president said as recently as 8 July that there was no likelihood of Afghanistan being overrun.

At the same time, the level of Taliban attacks were increasing. In each three-month period since 29 February 2020, the date of the US-Taliban agreement, there were significantly more enemy-initiated attacks than in their corresponding quarters the previous year.

Yet a week before Biden said Afghanistan would not be overrun, it was reported by the independent Afghan Analysts Network that the Taliban had captured 127 of the 420 district centres, about 25% of the total, and by 21 July, Gen Mark Milley, the chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff, said the figure was more than half. In June, he said, it had been only 81. It was noticeable that some of the districts falling were in traditionally anti-Taliban areas.

The additional problem was a central government facing a severe fiscal crisis precipitated by the loss of customs revenues and declining aid flows. Many officials complained that they had not been paid for months.

Fear was a further factor. As momentum swung towards the Taliban, fostered by Taliban social media, the speed of events became fuelled by fear of revenge and personal scores being settled under cover of a takeover, particularly in a large city like Kabul.

The Afghan government provided no counter-narrative.

By then the US retreat was well under way and near irreversible; its withdrawal was more than 90% complete by 5 July. The process included 984 C-17 aircraft loads being transported out of Afghanistan, more than 17,000 pieces of equipment being turned over, and 10 facilities, including Bagram airfield, being handed over to Afghanistan’s Ministry of Defence.

Sigar said $88.3bn had been allocated up to March for security-related reconstruction, compared with $36bn for governance and development, yet it discovered the Pentagon had always always found it “extremely challenging” to evaluate the fighting and administrative capacity of the ANDSF.

It started its multibillion-dollar training of Afghan forces in 2002 and three years later took control of training both the police and military, so US military trainers have had nearly two decades to ready the Afghan forces for a Taliban insurgency.

At the outset, the US began transforming the Afghan National Army from a light-infantry force to a combined-arms service with army, air force, and special forces element.

The Sigar report found that from 2005 the US military had been seeking to evaluate the battle-readiness of the troops they had been training, but by 2010 acknowledged that its monitoring and evaluation procedures “failed to measure more intangible readiness factors, such as leadership, corruption and motivation – all factors that could affect a unit’s ability to put its staffing and equipment to use during actual war-fighting”.

The assessment mechanism changed again in 2013, but in 2014, with few signs of progress emerging, it was decided that the assessment reports should become classified. The focus shifted from battalions to command headquarters.

The report also found a disjunction between what generals told Congress and what lower level officers reported. Sigar reports, for instance, that in March 2011 testimony to Congress, Gen David Petraeus – then the commander of the International Security Assistance Force – claimed that “investments in leader development, literacy and institutions have yielded significant dividends” for the ANDSF, that Afghan forces were taking on significant combat roles against the Taliban, and that Afghan local police units were increasingly limiting the Taliban’s ability to intimidate communities”.

Many other US generals made similarly optimistic claims. But other reports indicated “the absence of success on virtually every level”.

In a 2012 Armed Forces Journal article, Lt Col Daniel Davis, who spent a year in Afghanistan speaking with US troops and their Afghan counterparts, wrote that his observations “bore no resemblance to rosy official statements by US military leaders about conditions on the ground”.

The Sigar report also lambasted the tendency for politicians and senior military to look for good news. It says there is a “natural desire for good news to pass on up the chain of command”.

“In the words of one former senior military official: ‘As intelligence makes its way up higher, it gets consolidated and watered down; it gets politicised. It gets politicked because once policymakers get their hands on it, and frankly, once operational commanders get their hands on it, they put their twist on it. Operational commanders, state department policymakers and Department of Defense policymakers are going to be inherently rosy in their assessments. They will be unaccepting of hard-hitting intelligence.”
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Via the news tickers:

Reports are coming out from US embassy staff in Afghanistan that the Kabul airport is taking fire. The embassy has instructed US citizens the “shelter in place”, ie stay put wherever you are right now and try to find a safe place to wait.

The security situation in Kabul is “changing quickly, including at the airport”, according to a report from Reuters.

Meanwhile, the Taliban has taken control of Afghanistan’s presidential palace, two senior Taliban commanders present in Kabul told Reuters a little earlier, after the Afghan president, Ashraf Ghani left the country.

There was no confirmation from the Afghan government about the Taliban’s claim. Government officials were not immediately contactable.
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Mercurial said:
Does anyone think Pakistan Army/ISI has a role in Afghan Taliban takeover of Afghanistan? I want a well analysed and properly researched answer please.
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The army and the government led by Imran were the Mediator between the USA and the Taliban. The yanks were desperate for this to end so they could get out. Once that was agreed the puppet government in place in Afghanistan were sitting ducks and it's now concluded what was inevitable. What we will see now is China and Pakistan Governments going from strength to strength economically, strategically, with no foreign influence in Afganistan to stabalise Pakistan.
 
I’m in shock and disbelief

Afghanistan’s Minister of Education Rangina Hamidi

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I’m in shock and disbelief”<br><br>Afghanistan’s Minister of Education Rangina Hamidi says she didn’t expect the president to leave the country as she “trusted him fully”<a href="https://t.co/hHMv4FptLI">https://t.co/hHMv4FptLI</a> <a href="https://t.co/JlS9Ics6JW">pic.twitter.com/JlS9Ics6JW</a></p>— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1426939633863172100?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Runner Up said:
I’m in shock and disbelief

Afghanistan’s Minister of Education Rangina Hamidi

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I’m in shock and disbelief”<br><br>Afghanistan’s Minister of Education Rangina Hamidi says she didn’t expect the president to leave the country as she “trusted him fully”<a href="https://t.co/hHMv4FptLI">https://t.co/hHMv4FptLI</a> <a href="https://t.co/JlS9Ics6JW">pic.twitter.com/JlS9Ics6JW</a></p>— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1426939633863172100?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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I genuinely feel for people who bought into these psychopaths' deceit and lies. This poor lady actually believed the lies.

Americans/NATO were looting the western taxpayers and weapons manufacturers were getting rich; Indians were spreading evil with their continuous terrorism; the puppet government was only focused on the most eficient corruption methods; the pedophile warlords were doing whatever they wanted behind this Satanic veil lifted by invaders...


What a mess!
 
WhenSultansBowled said:
I genuinely feel for people who bought into these psychopaths' deceit and lies. This poor lady actually believed the lies.

Americans/NATO were looting the western taxpayers and weapons manufacturers were getting rich; Indians were spreading evil with their continuous terrorism; the puppet government was only focused on the most eficient corruption methods; the pedophile warlords were doing whatever they wanted behind this Satanic veil lifted by invaders...


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I hope this lady is safe. The way she is speaking looks like she came from some western country to serve. Praying for her safety.
 
dont care about ashraf ghani, need to find the barking dog amrullah saleh, even if he is in tajikstan , some day someone will find him for sure ..... :)
 
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disorderly evacuation
 
President Ashraf Ghani, along with his close aides, flew out of Afghanistan on Sunday, paving way for Taliban to regain power 20 years after a US-led military invasion ousted them.

A senior Afghan Interior Ministry official confirmed the development to Reuters. Asked for comment, the president's office said it "cannot say anything about Ashraf Ghani's movement for security reasons".

Shortly after President Ghani flew out of the country, Taliban commanders claimed that they "took control" of the presidential palace in Kabul, Russia's RT reported.

The report quoted the group as saying that it expected a total handover of power.

Two officials from the militant group told Reuters there would be no transitional government following their lighting sweep across Afghanistan.

Ghani's destination was uncertain: a senior Interior Ministry official said he had left for Tajikistan, while a Foreign Ministry official said his location was unknown and the Taliban said it was checking his whereabouts.

Some local social media users branded him a "coward" for leaving them in chaos.

Meanwhile, the US Embassy in Kabul said in a security alert that the security situation in the Afghan capital was changing quickly, including at the airport, where there were reports of gunfire as US troops aid an evacuation of most US personnel.

"There are reports of the airport taking fire; therefore we are instructing US citizens to shelter in place," the embassy said.

According to a statement issued by the insurgent group, the Taliban ordered its fighters to enter the city because "now there are reports that districts in Kabul have been evacuated, police have left their job of providing security, ministries have been evacuated, and security personnel from the Kabul administration have fled".

"So that God forbid the common thieves and robbers in Kabul do not mix, the abusers do not harm the people, the Islamic Emirate (Taliban) ordered its forces to enter the areas of Kabul from which the enemy went and areas there is a risk of theft and robbery," the statement continued.

The Taliban assured Kabul residents that they should not fear the troops and that none would enter anyone's homes or harass anyone.

Afghan Vice President Amrullah Saleh, who is said to have accompanied Ghani and the others who left, in a tweet vowed not to bow to the Taliban, but he did not respond in the message to reports of him leaving the country.

Acting defence minister Bismillah Mohammadi, earlier in the day, said that the president had handed the authority of solving the crisis in the country to political leaders. Mohammadi, according to ToloNews said that a delegation will travel to Doha on Monday for talks on the country’s situation.

Meanwhile, sources close to the Taliban said that it has been agreed that Ghani will resign after a political agreement and hand the power to a transitional government.

Soon after an Afghanistan interior ministry official confirmed reports of Taliban entering Kabul from all sides earlier in the day, a spokesperson for the Taliban stated that the fighters have been ordered to remain at the city’s gates, and not enter it.

The Taliban's announcement signalled the insurgents were confident of taking power imminently, as the United States and other nations rushed to evacuate their citizens from the capital.

"The Islamic Emirate instructs all its forces to stand at the gates of Kabul, not to try to enter the city," a spokesperson for the Taliban tweeted.

Earlier in the day, Afghanistan Minister of Interior General Abdul Satar Mirzakwal announced that there will be a 'peaceful transfer of power' to a 'transitional government' hours after the Taliban began entering Kabul.

"The security of Kabul is the responsibility of the security forces," he said.

President Ghani's government was left completely isolated on Sunday after the Taliban claimed the anti-Taliban northern stronghold of Mazar-i-Sharif and the eastern city of Jalalabad.

Like with most of the other captured cities, the seizure of power came after government forces surrendered or retreated.

It left the Taliban holding all the cards in any negotiated surrender of the capital.

On Saturday, Ghani sought to project authority with a national address in which he spoke of "re-mobilising" the military while seeking a "political solution" to the crisis.

Read more: High-level delegation arrives in Islamabad

A high-level delegation of Afghan political leadership including Speaker Wolesi Jirga Mir Rehman Rehamni also arrived in Islamabad on Sunday evening.

"Just received a high level Afghan political leadership delegation including Speaker Ulusi Jirga Mir Rehman Rehmani, Salah-ud-din Rabbani, Mohammad Yunus Qanooni, Ustad Mohammad Karim Khalili, Ahmad Zia Massoud, Ahmad Wali Massoud, Abdul Latif Pedram, and Khalid Noor," Pakistan’s Special Representative for Afghanistan Mohammad Sadiq wrote on his Twitter handle.

He said that matters of mutual interest will be discussed during the Afghan political leadership's visit.

Taliban enter Kabul

Taliban insurgents entered Kabul earlier today and said they expected to take power within days, promising to moderate their earlier hardline Islamic rule even as foreign diplomats and many locals tried to leave.

American diplomats were evacuated from their embassy by chopper after a lightning advance by the militants, who were poised to run Afghanistan again 20 years after they were toppled by US-led forces following the Sept 11 attacks on the United States.

Taliban fighters were reaching the capital "from all sides", a senior Afghan interior ministry official told Reuters.

However, there were no reports of fighting.

The group was in talks with the Western-backed government for a peaceful surrender, Taliban spokesperson Zabihullah Mujahid said.

"Taliban fighters are to be on standby on all entrances of Kabul until a peaceful and satisfactory transfer of power is agreed," he said in a statement.

Ali Ahmad Jalali, a US-based academic and former Afghan interior minister, could be named head of an interim administration in Kabul, three diplomatic sources said, though it was unclear whether the Taliban had agreed.

Known during their past rule for keeping girls out of school and their hardline practice of Islamic law, including punishments of amputation, stoning and hanging, the Taliban appear to be trying to project a more modern face.

Another spokesperson Suhail Shaheen said the group would protect the rights of women, as well as freedoms for media workers and diplomats.

"We assure the people, particularly in the city of Kabul, that their properties, their lives are safe," Shaheen told the BBC, saying a transfer of power was expected in days.

The ease of the Taliban's advance, despite billions of dollars spent by the United States and others to build up local Afghan government forces, has stunned the world.

Choppers at embassy

US officials said diplomats were being ferried by helicopters to the airport from its embassy in the fortified Wazir Akbar Khan district. More American troops were being sent to help in the evacuations after the Taliban's surge brought the Islamist group to Kabul in a matter of days.

"Core" US team members were working from the airport, a US official said, while a NATO official said several European Union staff had moved to a safer location in the capital.

Earlier on Sunday, the insurgents captured the eastern city of Jalalabad without a fight, giving them control of one of the main highways into landlocked Afghanistan. They also took over the nearby Torkham border post with Pakistan, leaving Kabul airport the only way out of Afghanistan still in government hands.

"The governor has surrendered to the Taliban," a Jalalabad-based Afghan official told Reuters. "Allowing passage to the Taliban was the only way to save civilian lives."

A video clip distributed by the Taliban showed people cheering and shouting "Allahu Akbar" - God is greatest - as a convoy of pickup trucks entered Jalalabad with fighters brandishing machine guns and the white Taliban flag.

After US-led forces withdrew the bulk of their remaining troops in the last month, the Taliban campaign accelerated as the Afghan military's defences appeared to collapse.

President Joe Biden on Saturday authorised the deployment of 5,000 US troops to help evacuate citizens and ensure an "orderly and safe" drawdown of military personnel. A US defence official said that included 1,000 newly approved troops from the 82nd Airborne Division.

The Taliban said its rapid gains showed it was popularly accepted by the Afghan people.

Biden said his administration had told Taliban officials in talks in Qatar that any action that put US personnel at risk "will be met with a swift and strong US military response".

He has faced rising domestic criticism after sticking to a plan, initiated by his Republican predecessor Donald Trump, to end the US military mission in Afghanistan by Aug 31.

"An endless American presence in the middle of another country's civil conflict was not acceptable to me," Biden said on Saturday.

(With input from agencies)
 
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Former Afghanistan president Hamid Karzai on Sunday announced that a 'coordination council' was formed "in order to prevent chaos, reduce sufferings of the people and oversee a peaceful transition of power."

"In order to prevent chaos and reduce the suffering of the people, and to better manage the affairs related to peace and peaceful transfer of power, a coordination council was formed by Chairman of the Supreme Council National Reconciliation Abdullah Abdullah, leader of Hezb-e-Islami, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and himself," he wrote in a tweet.

Karzai said that the council called on the government security forces and the Taliban fighters to resolutely curb the chaos while maintaining restraint.

Karzai also appeared in a video along with his three daughters in Kabul, where he urged residents to remain patient after the Taliban take control of the heart of Afghanistan.

However, two Taliban officials told Reuters that there would be no transitional government in Afghanistan and that the group expects a complete handover of power.

The development came after President Ashraf Ghani left the country amid growing pressure from the Taliban who returned to the Afghan capital earlier in the day after a US-led military invasion ousted them 20 years ago.

A senior Afghan Interior Ministry official confirmed the development to Reuters. Asked for comment, the president's office said it "cannot say anything about Ashraf Ghani's movement for security reasons".

Acting defence minister Bismillah Mohammadi, earlier in the day, said that the president had handed the authority of solving the crisis in the country to political leaders. Mohammadi, according to ToloNews said that a delegation will travel to Doha on Monday for talks on the country’s situation.

Meanwhile, sources close to the Taliban said that it has been agreed that Ghani will resign after a political agreement and hand the power to a transitional government.

Gulbuddin Hekmatyar also slammed the government for not refusing to "give up" the war with the Taliban.

According to ToloNews, he said that the government has refused the transfer of power to a government acceptable to all, adding that it has failed to secure Kabul.

He said that the Taliban had decided not to enter Kabul, but warned that "now some may take advantage of the situation."

Hekmatyar said that the people can ensure their security on their own.

President Ghani's government was left completely isolated on Sunday after the Taliban claimed the anti-Taliban northern stronghold of Mazar-i-Sharif and the eastern city of Jalalabad.

Like with most of the other captured cities, the seizure of power came after government forces surrendered or retreated.

It left the Taliban holding all the cards in any negotiated surrender of the capital.

On Saturday, Ghani sought to project authority with a national address in which he spoke of "re-mobilising" the military while seeking a "political solution" to the crisis.
 
From the official account of Taliban Spokesman

We assure all embassies, diplomatic missions, institutions and residences of foreign nationals in Kabul that no danger is posed to them. All should be in Kabul with full confidence. The forces of the Islamic Emirate are tasked with maintaining security in Kabul and other cities of the country.
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I’m in shock and disbelief

Afghanistan’s Minister of Education Rangina Hamidi

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I’m in shock and disbelief”<br><br>Afghanistan’s Minister of Education Rangina Hamidi says she didn’t expect the president to leave the country as she “trusted him fully”<a href="https://t.co/hHMv4FptLI">https://t.co/hHMv4FptLI</a> <a href="https://t.co/JlS9Ics6JW">pic.twitter.com/JlS9Ics6JW</a></p>— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1426939633863172100?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Ashraf Ghani is a COWARD!
He is part of the coward Afghan ruling elite, and don’t represent the people. This pedophile along with his cronies looted American taxpayer wealth and now left the country. Even india didn’t help him and he had to go to Tajikistan, where they are actually from.
So how can such ruling elite who are used to free power, money, and little boys be brave enough to fight ?
As per one of my Afghan friends, “people were sick of them due to such disgusting behaviors. We only see their (ruling elite) pov is western media.”
 
When reality is stranger than fiction.

Invaders are flying their helicopters non stop to evacuate:



They will make movies on it in some decades.
 
Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, Leader of Hezb-e-Islami of Afghanistan and former prime minister, on Sunday said that the Afghan government refused to give up the war with the Taliban, ToloNews reported.

Hekmatyar said that the government has refused the transfer of power to an interim government acceptable to all, adding that it has failed to secure Kabul.

He said that the Taliban had decided not to enter Kabul, but warned that "now some may take advantage of the situation."

Hekmatyar said that the people can ensure their security on their own.

The development comes as President Ashraf Ghani left Afghanistan, capping the militant group's lightning push for power.

A senior Afghan Interior Ministry official said Ghani had left for Tajikistan. Asked for comment, the president's office it "cannot say anything about Ashraf Ghani's movement for security reasons".

A representative of the Taliban said the group was checking on Ghani's whereabouts.

Acting defence minister Bismillah Mohammadi, earlier in the day, said that the president had handed the authority of solving the crisis in the country to political leaders. Mohammadi, according to ToloNews said that a delegation will travel to Doha on Monday for talks on the country’s situation.

Meanwhile, sources close to the Taliban said that it has been agreed that Ghani will resign after a political agreement and hand the power to a transitional government.

Soon after an Afghanistan interior ministry official confirmed reports of Taliban entering Kabul from all sides earlier in the day, a spokesperson for the Taliban stated that the fighters have been ordered to remain at the city’s gates, and not enter it.

President Ghani's government was left completely isolated on Sunday after the Taliban claimed the anti-Taliban northern stronghold of Mazar-i-Sharif and the eastern city of Jalalabad.

Like with most of the other captured cities, the seizure of power came after government forces surrendered or retreated.

It left the Taliban holding all the cards in any negotiated surrender of the capital.

On Saturday, Ghani sought to project authority with a national address in which he spoke of "re-mobilising" the military while seeking a "political solution" to the crisis.
 
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