"Age fudging by players is blatant cheating, and is no different from fixing": Rahul Dravid

[moghul]

It embarrassing when people talk more about their age, rather than their talent when cricketers like Naseem Shah suddenly become 16 due to age fudging. Only Majid Khan took serious note and tried to fix this issue but could not do it.

Now ICC should do something about it.

Pakistan is ranked 2nd after the ultimate champion of age fudging Afghanistan.

We have produced some world class age fudgers, the champion being Razzaq,

 

[The Viper]

It shows that age fudging is a problem from the whole subcontinent, not just Pakistan.

Although, it is probably less prevalent in India. The sanctions imposed if found guilt of age fudging should act as a deterrent for other Indian players.

 

[cricketjoshila]

They don't do it for cricket, age fudging happened because of government jobs not because of cricket. I was talking in general not specific to cricket.

Secondly, I was talking about villages where a lot of people still give home births or help of local clinics, the doctor is known throughout the village and isn't reporting to any hospital.

I know it's reduced but I still believe age fudging happens in villages. Again, not for cricket per se.

See

Thing is if you have put a date in your matriculation certificate and birth certificate then thats your official birthdate. It cannot be challenged.

The bone ossification test cannot pin point the exact age, it can only give a range.

As per various judgements of courts in India any doubt in bone ossification test, benefit goes to the accused.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Their is also no evidence to suggest that it is an isolated case in indian cricket if Rahul Dravid is specifically talking about it in a speech at a major forum it surely is not as sporadic as you are trying to make it sound.

Anyways I will see if anything is done against Mavi who is the only indian prospect of the three

First Mavi has to be proven guilty.

 

[tyron_woodley]

There is no evidence to suggest that age-fudging is a major problem for India. Sure every now and then you might have 1-2 players with fake ages, but it is not widespread like Pakistan. You can be assured that 99% of our players have fake ages.

In Pakistan, you had players like Waqar, Saqlain, Razzaq etc. who were on their last legs at an official age of 30, clearly suggesting that they were a lot older than they claimed.

If people want to use this example to feel good or to justify the PCB-facilitated age-fudging, well then it is their choice.

yuvraj dhoni definitely age fudged.

I am pretty sure ishant isn't 31? is he lol. maybe. he does look 31 I guess

shami says 29 rofl. c'mon. Although looking back he did look very young in 2014. Like a 26 year old. I think he is 32. Only 3 or 4 years left for the legend shami. that's sad for Indians.

umesh looks young but apparently 31 as well.

 

[jnaveen1980]

yuvraj dhoni definitely age fudged.

I am pretty sure ishant isn't 31? is he lol. maybe. he does look 31 I guess

shami says 29 rofl. c'mon. Although looking back he did look very young in 2014. Like a 26 year old. I think he is 32. Only 3 or 4 years left for the legend shami. that's sad for Indians.

umesh looks young but apparently 31 as well.

Ishant made debut very early like 18 or 19. He looks 31. But not Shami lol

 

[gazza619]

Silly comment by Dravid.

 

[moghul]

Dhoni had grey beard when he was "31".

 

[Space Cat]

Dhoni had grey beard when he was "31".

I think i might be age fudging too then if thats the case.

 

[MP2011]

Dhoni had grey beard when he was "31".

lol, are you for real? Is this is first time you're seeing a 31-years old guy having a grey beard? Kohli is having grey hairs in his beard since he took over Indian captaincy, if not earlier. He was around 28 then I assume then. Was he fudging his age too?

 

[MP2011]

Well done BCCI though. Should be a big lesson for all our upcoming age cheats...

 

[jnaveen1980]

I think i might be age fudging too then if thats the case.

He worked in Indian Government Railways for 2 years as a ticket collector. They even have the appointment details in a paper with all the personal information. You can't cheat there. He looks older for his age. But i don't think he is actually cheating.

 

[Space Cat]

He worked in Indian Government Railways for 2 years as a ticket collector. They even have the appointment details in a paper with all the personal information. You can't cheat there. He looks older for his age. But i don't think he is actually cheating.

That makes me feel better about my own greys.

 

[Mamoon]

yuvraj dhoni definitely age fudged.

I am pretty sure ishant isn't 31? is he lol. maybe. he does look 31 I guess

shami says 29 rofl. c'mon. Although looking back he did look very young in 2014. Like a 26 year old. I think he is 32. Only 3 or 4 years left for the legend shami. that's sad for Indians.

umesh looks young but apparently 31 as well.

Yuvraj didn’t, his career was derailed because of cancer. Don’t agree with Dhoni and Ishant, but yes Shami is certainly not 29. As I said, there are definitely 1-2 cases every now and then but it is not remotely at the same level as Pakistan cricket.

In Pakistan cricket, you will be hard pressed to find 1-2 players who are not fudgers.

 

[Mainul]

Unfortunately Pakistan is leading this age fudging. Hasan Raja and Naseem are two extreme examples. Bangladesh is also a member in this age fudging too.

 

[MenInG]

Yuvraj didn’t, his career was derailed because of cancer. Don’t agree with Dhoni and Ishant, but yes Shami is certainly not 29. As I said, there are definitely 1-2 cases every now and then but it is not remotely at the same level as Pakistan cricket.

In Pakistan cricket, you will be hard pressed to find 1-2 players who are not fudgers.

I know you say this due to your immense hate for anything Pakistani - however when you make such wonderful blanket statements, make sure you back them up with facts, else all it is diatribe - at the best.

 

[JaDed]

yuvraj dhoni definitely age fudged.

I am pretty sure ishant isn't 31? is he lol. maybe. he does look 31 I guess

shami says 29 rofl. c'mon. Although looking back he did look very young in 2014. Like a 26 year old. I think he is 32. Only 3 or 4 years left for the legend shami. that's sad for Indians.

umesh looks young but apparently 31 as well.

Ishant made debut very early like 18 or 19. He looks 31. But not Shami lol

Ishant I thought was an year older but i know one of his school class mates and she is 31..but he could be 32 is what she said.

shami defn fudged alot

 

[ChennaiFan]

Virat Kohli's real age could be 33 not 31. Some people suspected it in the past.

 

[ChennaiFan]

I remember Bishensingh Bedi once said "Indian under 19 is not under 19!".

 

[JaDed]

Virat Kohli's real age could be 33 not 31. Some people suspected it in the past.

Yeah nope.. his young age pics are there from his west Delhi cricket academy along with records.. Although I don’t trust DDCA but still.

When a talent shines early on in school like Prithvi Shaw, Sachin, Gill they all have school time scores as well ..

 

[big_gamer007]

See

Thing is if you have put a date in your matriculation certificate and birth certificate then thats your official birthdate. It cannot be challenged.

The bone ossification test cannot pin point the exact age, it can only give a range.

As per various judgements of courts in India any doubt in bone ossification test, benefit goes to the accused.

So people from poor families or families in villages who don't attend city schools can have their kids graduate matrics at a higher age, however at that time put a lower age?? That's still happening isn't it?

I guess it will take few decades to completely get over with. Better than the past atleast so we are moving in right direction.

 

[big_gamer007]

Yeah nope.. his young age pics are there from his west Delhi cricket academy along with records.. Although I don’t trust DDCA but still.

When a talent shines early on in school like Prithvi Shaw, Sachin, Gill they all have school time scores as well ..

Virat Kohli's real age could be 33 not 31. Some people suspected it in the past.

Not possible, first Kohli attended city school and was born in hospital, can't be possible to fudge age unless you are very influential which Kohli's family wasn't.

In Delhi private hospitals/schools it's nearly impossible to fudge age without being super influential so even Ishant's ageshould be correct.

 

[JaDed]

Not possible, first Kohli attended city school and was born in hospital, can't be possible to fudge age unless you are very influential which Kohli's family wasn't.

In Delhi private hospitals/schools it's nearly impossible to fudge age without being super influential so even Ishant's ageshould be correct.

Yes but I can guarantee Sangwan’s age was fudged by an year.. he played u-19 with Kohli lol and he was from an influential family..

 

[big_gamer007]

Yeah nope.. his young age pics are there from his west Delhi cricket academy along with records.. Although I don’t trust DDCA but still.

When a talent shines early on in school like Prithvi Shaw, Sachin, Gill they all have school time scores as well ..

Virat Kohli's real age could be 33 not 31. Some people suspected it in the past.

Yes but I can guarantee Sangwan’s age was fudged by an year.. he played u-19 with Kohli lol and he was from an influential family..

Possibly, 1 year can be done I suppose, however, doing 4+ years like Rashid Khan, Iftikar, Afridi etc will be nearly impossible I would imagine.

 

[Saj]

Shoaib Malik?

Famous quote by Graeme Swann during CT17, who said "Shoaib Malik was 19 years old when I was 19, but I'm now 38 and he is 35 years old"

 

[Saj]

This is a problem across Asia and needs clamping down on.

Even nowadays some of the U19s look like they are around 23.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Not possible, first Kohli attended city school and was born in hospital, can't be possible to fudge age unless you are very influential which Kohli's family wasn't.

In Delhi private hospitals/schools it's nearly impossible to fudge age without being super influential so even Ishant's ageshould be correct.

These days it is very very hard to get a certificate with fake date if you were born in a hospital even 30 years back. You need to be super influential.

 

[MenInG]

Manjot Kalra, who struck a match-winning century in the U-19 World Cup final in 2018, has been handed a two-year ban from playing for Delhi for age fraud. The punishment will deprive the Delhi Ranji team, which is desperate to shore up its batting.

DDCA’s outgoing ombudsman, Justice (retd) Badar Durrez Ahmed, whose tenure ended on December 16, issued the order on a complaint by ex-India cricketer Kirti Azad and member Sameer Bahadur.

The order states, “In the case of Mr Manjot Kalra, he shall submit an undertaking that he shall not be playing in age category matches for a period of 2 years from the date of this order. However, he shall be permitted to play in open category matches as well as club matches/tournaments from the second year.”

Kalra, player of the final, could not break into the Ranji side last year. Delhi chief selector, Bantoo Singh, told HT, “We were thinking of including him, but now there is an order, we’ll have to abide by it.”

Delhi will be without India players Shikhar Dhawan and Ishant Sharma, who helped win the previous game against Hyderabad.

However, Delhi will retain the services of batsman Nitish Rana, who too faces an age-fraud enquiry along with Harsh Tyagi, U-19 pacer Shivam Mavi, Prashant Bhandari and Sarang Rawat.

While Tyagi and Mavi have shifted out of Delhi, Bhandari isn’t playing anymore. Rawat has been banned for two years from state matches after he and his father tendered an apology.

Rana will continue to play as Justice Ahmed asked DDCA’s apex council to probe his original age from DAV Centenary Public School, which he left to join Vidya Jain School. The apex council has been asked to investigate the date of birth in the admission register, the basis of the date of birth, whether an application for change of date of birth made and on what basis. The ombudsman had asked them to return and file a reply.

However, since Justice Ahmed was removed at Sunday’s acrimonious AGM, the issue will be placed before new ombudsman, Justice Deepak Verma.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...r-age-fraud/story-2ZRlcoru67ykDTfS1leYbJ.html

 

[Khan12]

Yuvraj didn’t, his career was derailed because of cancer. Don’t agree with Dhoni and Ishant, but yes Shami is certainly not 29. As I said, there are definitely 1-2 cases every now and then but it is not remotely at the same level as Pakistan cricket.

In Pakistan cricket, you will be hard pressed to find 1-2 players who are not fudgers.

Come with facts or stay quiet. We know it's hard for you to resist posting negative about Pakistan but bring facts.

 

[JaDed]

Come with facts or stay quiet. We know it's hard for you to resist posting negative about Pakistan but bring facts.

My assumption is news are facts? So the more India catches and less Pakistan does ,would that mean Indians have more age fudgers?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

yuvraj dhoni definitely age fudged.

I am pretty sure ishant isn't 31? is he lol. maybe. he does look 31 I guess

shami says 29 rofl. c'mon. Although looking back he did look very young in 2014. Like a 26 year old. I think he is 32. Only 3 or 4 years left for the legend shami. that's sad for Indians.

umesh looks young but apparently 31 as well.

Shami is easily mid-30's.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

There is no evidence to suggest that age-fudging is a major problem for India. Sure every now and then you might have 1-2 players with fake ages, but it is not widespread like Pakistan. You can be assured that 99% of our players have fake ages.

In Pakistan, you had players like Waqar, Saqlain, Razzaq etc. who were on their last legs at an official age of 30, clearly suggesting that they were a lot older than they claimed.

If people want to use this example to feel good or to justify the PCB-facilitated age-fudging, well then it is their choice.

Such a hypocritical stance. On one hand you say there is no evidence that this is a problem for India eventhough they have banned one player and are investigating five others. And in the same breath you accuse Pakistani players of age-fudging because they went out of form? They probably did fudge their age but did players in India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh (and perhaps the biggest offender of all) Afghanistan not?

Your selective bias smacks of hypocrisy. Just admit it's a problem for every country in the sub-continent. I mean are you seriously going to tell me that just because Mohammad Shami happens to be performing well he is 29? I have seen 36 year olds who look younger than him.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

The problem in Pakistan is that no one knows their date of births.

If you ask any Pakistani what their age is, more then likely you will get a response saying..oh I'm probably around 25-26. They don't know and the way the laws are set up they aren't hardpressed to make their birth certificates right away.

This concept is unheard of in the west.

It's not about age fudging (and I'm sure this happens as well) but the majority there just don't know/don't care.

 

[Khan12]

My assumption is news are facts? So the more India catches and less Pakistan does ,would that mean Indians have more age fudgers?

You assume work there is no denying that we have s lot of age fudgers. My response is more in relation to the rubbish posted in his last sentence. He needs to prove 13 out of 15 in our last series were age fudgers. If he can't then should stop posting rubbish.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This has got to stop! We had a left arm leg spinner Noor Ahmad from Afghanistan who said in his application for IPL auction that he was 14yo!!! Like come on guys .. 18 yes.. but 14 ??!! <a href="https://t.co/nce0EKDEsq">https://t.co/nce0EKDEsq</a></p>— Dean Jones AM (@ProfDeano) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProfDeano/status/1213169627036930049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[jnaveen1980]

The problem in Pakistan is that no one knows their date of births.

If you ask any Pakistani what their age is, more then likely you will get a response saying..oh I'm probably around 25-26. They don't know and the way the laws are set up they aren't hardpressed to make their birth certificates right away.

This concept is unheard of in the west.

It's not about age fudging (and I'm sure this happens as well) but the majority there just don't know/don't care.

seriously? How about school? There are cases when the kids are unmanageable at home they send the kids earlier lol. If the boy is 5. they say he is 6 and send him to school. Although you lose more than you gain there, it is still considered illegal.

 

[JaDed]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This has got to stop! We had a left arm leg spinner Noor Ahmad from Afghanistan who said in his application for IPL auction that he was 14yo!!! Like come on guys .. 18 yes.. but 14 ??!! <a href="https://t.co/nce0EKDEsq">https://t.co/nce0EKDEsq</a></p>— Dean Jones AM (@ProfDeano) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProfDeano/status/1213169627036930049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I wonder if Dean Jones follows PP as well

 

[jnaveen1980]

I wonder if Dean Jones follows PP as well

Many cricketers commentators do-follow. Just like us they also want to see the direct reaction of fans. They are also thrilled to see good comments about them in the youtube comments section.

 

[Saj]

I wonder if Dean Jones follows PP as well

I keep in touch with Dean Jones and I'm pretty sure he has a browse of PakPassion from time to time.

In fact PP assisted with some of the Karachi Kings picks for PSL5.

 

[Aman]

Asian teams are the biggest cheats when it comes to this.

Thought India had become more professional and stamped it out, I was wrong.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Asian teams are the biggest cheats when it comes to this.

Thought India had become more professional and stamped it out, I was wrong.

I am surprised there are more than a couple given that your DOB is recorded at the time of joining your elementary school. You simply cannot get away with fake age. I would attach the blame to Delhi cricketing board who are notorious for incompetency at all levels. The board has to be extremely incompetent to overlook this.

 

[Indiafan]

This seems to be the chief reason why Asian u19 teams dominate the u19 and u16 scenes. Even bangla and afganistan dominate SENA countries at that level. All age cheats making entire thing unfair and useless

 

[Saj]

I think there are a few 'youngsters' in international cricket who must be at least 4 or 5 years older. You know who you are

 

[tyron_woodley]

Asian teams are the biggest cheats when it comes to this.

Thought India had become more professional and stamped it out, I was wrong.

mate they do it here in australia too. in our grade system it's pretty common. Not sure about the Australian A and senior teams though.

 

[JaDed]

I keep in touch with Dean Jones and I'm pretty sure he has a browse of PakPassion from time to time.

In fact PP assisted with some of the Karachi Kings picks for PSL5.

lol what really.. that’s amazing to know about KK.. did those picks work out?

 

[Aman]

mate they do it here in australia too. in our grade system it's pretty common. Not sure about the Australian A and senior teams though.

IDK how you can cheat the system there with birth certificates and all. Pretty sure it's considered fraud and the repercussions are far more severe than it is in Asia where record keeping is still behind the West and it isn't seen as harshly.

 

[Aman]

India should be stripped of their World Championship.

Don't expect the ICC to do a thing, we all know useless and incompetent they are.

 

[jnaveen1980]

India should be stripped of their World Championship.

Don't expect the ICC to do a thing, we all know useless and incompetent they are.

Who will do these checking for other countries? This is purely an internal exercise. This i believe is an effort on the part of Rahul Dravid who is a straightforward and honest man.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Agree with Dravid. By lying about there age these cheaters are denying another kid the chance to make the team. They play against much younger competition at the junior level, and that lets them perform better than they would have had they played against people there own age.

If you are caught lying about age it should be an automatic suspension.

 

[Darkrai]

This is a major issue in Pakistan.

A few years back, I went to Pakistan and learned that most of my cousins are also guilty of age-fudging. The extent of this issue in an Islamic country like Pakistan is surprising, as this is a lie that remains with you your whole life, no matter the reason for this act.

I hope Pakistan and PCB take this issue seriously and take appropriate measures.

 

[tyron_woodley]

IDK how you can cheat the system there with birth certificates and all. Pretty sure it's considered fraud and the repercussions are far more severe than it is in Asia where record keeping is still behind the West and it isn't seen as harshly.

probably. But seniors fill in for reserve games quite often in australia though? in grade cricket.
but yea definitely not as much as Asian countries unless these boys get a forged certificate. Not impossible but difficult in australia.

judging by the national team players, most look their age to be honest.

 

[par]

In villages, parents can still do it, can't they?

Not in Tamil Nadu. Here, it is mandatory to register your pregnancy, nowadays. Otherwise you wouldn't get a hospital for the delivery and wouldn't get the birth certificate. Without a birth certificate, it is impossible to get a school admission.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

seriously? How about school? There are cases when the kids are unmanageable at home they send the kids earlier lol. If the boy is 5. they say he is 6 and send him to school. Although you lose more than you gain there, it is still considered illegal.

They just guesstimate.

 

[pratiktc]

In U-19 cricket it should be clamped down upon very firmly.
Do bone density tests and if there is any doubt err on side of caution and exclude player unless he/she can provide proof

 

[Nikhil_cric]

I think both manjot and mavi are probably over by a year. This has been quite an issue and there was a lot of talk about it even during the last under 19 world cup. The ages of most players from south and probably western India are accurate . Its less of an issue now than it was earlier. There was a time when the likes of Munaf, Praveen Kumar etc were masquerading as youngsters lol. The only doubtful case now is shami who is supposedly 29, my age, but looks like he is around 5 years older.

 

[Mobashir]

The point is that BCCI is a professional body with credibility unlike PCB. Hence, it is futile to accuse without evidence.

PCB not only facilities age-fudging, it facilities chucking and bends over backwards to support fixers. It does not have a shred of credibility.

It is a joke, right?
PCB is unprofessional, that we agree, but BCCI is professional?

They have just come to know that they won last world cup because of overage players?

The world cup should rightfully be taken back, or if BCCI is so professional they should give it back themselves.

 

[Mobashir]

Dhoni had grey beard when he was "31".

It's not about Grey beard but the way his game went down and his hitting ability gone to zero. He was probably 2-3 years older at least.

 

[Saj]

lol what really.. that’s amazing to know about KK.. did those picks work out?

They picked some of the guys that were suggested to them.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So people from poor families or families in villages who don't attend city schools can have their kids graduate matrics at a higher age, however at that time put a lower age?? That's still happening isn't it?

I guess it will take few decades to completely get over with. Better than the past atleast so we are moving in right direction.

They will still have to admit their child in a school from the start and put a DOB. If that child is born after 2000, then they have to produce the birth certificate. Thats mandatory.

 

[Sidilicious]

It is a joke, right?
PCB is unprofessional, that we agree, but BCCI is professional?

They have just come to know that they won last world cup because of overage players?

The world cup should rightfully be taken back, or if BCCI is so professional they should give it back themselves.

That would mean PCB would have to return all of their u19 WCs.

The positive thing to come out of this is that immediate action is being taken. Naseem Shah, who has been 16 for the last 3 years on the other hand is breaking youngster bowling records and there hasn’t been a word from PCB.

 

[Bewal Express]

In the u15 WC in 96 there was an Ind player who won the match, in a court case later it transpired that he was 19.

 

[Saj]

In the u15 WC in 96 there was an Ind player who won the match, in a court case later it transpired that he was 19.

I remember watching that final and thinking some of those lads on both sides looked too old for a Under 19 match never mind a Under 15 match.

 

[Bewal Express]

I remember watching that final and thinking some of those lads on both sides looked too old for a Under 19 match never mind a Under 15 match.

I think Bazid was the only player on either side that was actually u15

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pakistan Under-19 all-rounder Mohammad Shahzad:<br><br>In January 2019 in a video he said his Date of Birth was 5 February 2004.<br><br>Today in a video he says he is 14 years old & his Date of Birth is now 10 October 2005.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1213765838161039361?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2020</a></blockquote>
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[Donal Cozzie]

Only way to really crack down on this is to strip teams of titles won due to overage players and fine the boards responsible.

If India are being caught despite clamping down you can only imagine whats going on in Afghanistan and Nepal and so on.

A guy scoring a matchwinning hundred being overage is in the same bracket as doping for me. Very cruel on the opposition, some of whom may never make it, being denied a fair battle for the title.

 

[Slog]

Only way to really crack down on this is to strip teams of titles won due to overage players and fine the boards responsible.

If India are being caught despite clamping down you can only imagine whats going on in Afghanistan and Nepal and so on.

A guy scoring a matchwinning hundred being overage is in the same bracket as doping for me. Very cruel on the opposition, some of whom may never make it, being denied a fair battle for the title.

What do you achieve by stripping an under 19 World Cup title though? Nothing at all.

Because by the time it is retrospectively stripped the age fudgers have already benefitted.

Keep in mind the point of good performances here is to be hailed as an upcoming talent and get early opportunities in senior first class and domestic cricket over other players of similar ability but officially older. So from that respect for the individual he has succeeded in his aim. It matters little if the title is stripped as long as his career got a push

 

[Saj]

I think Bazid was the only player on either side that was actually u15

Grown men pretending to be Under 15.

I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was nothing short of a farce.

 

[Slog]

Grown men pretending to be Under 15.

I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was nothing short of a farce.

Lol I remember in an U17 school tournament in Karachi once my school was playing some other school. Some of the kids on the opposing team had full grown beards and some were even starting to lose hair.

So I commented to a teammate standing next to me. “Yaar yeh 17 saal ke tu nahi lag rahay.”

His reply (due to timing and delivery) had me in fits and whenever I think to this day I still smile. He said “Inn ki age tu nahi pata, laikin inn ke bachay zaroor under 17 honge”

 

[Donal Cozzie]

What do you achieve by stripping an under 19 World Cup title though? Nothing at all.

Because by the time it is retrospectively stripped the age fudgers have already benefitted.

Keep in mind the point of good performances here is to be hailed as an upcoming talent and get early opportunities in senior first class and domestic cricket over other players of similar ability but officially older. So from that respect for the individual he has succeeded in his aim. It matters little if the title is stripped as long as his career got a push

I'm viewing it from the perspective of the young players who finished second getting the winners medal they deserve. Yes its fairly hollow but for some of those guys who'll never make it it'll be a deserved accolade to be an u19 world champ and something to look back on.

Also, the boards that have the best systems deserve to take the titles, not the ones with the worst age verification.

 

[ElRaja]

simple solution.... tie noc's for playing leagues to minimum age, like how brazilians footballers arent allowed to move abroad under 18 i think.

make it so that no cricketer in the pak system under 21 or 24 can play abroad, in any league. lets see guys lopping 3 or 4 years of their age, waiting till they are really 27 or 28 to earn abroad.

it may not be a complete solution, but it would act as some form of disincentivisation to age cheating. also it should not be called age fudging, call it age cheating.

 

[Waleed93]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This has got to stop! We had a left arm leg spinner Noor Ahmad from Afghanistan who said in his application for IPL auction that he was 14yo!!! Like come on guys .. 18 yes.. but 14 ??!! <a href="https://t.co/nce0EKDEsq">https://t.co/nce0EKDEsq</a></p>— Dean Jones AM (@ProfDeano) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProfDeano/status/1213169627036930049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Afghans are on a different level when it comes to age fudging.

Rashid Khan being 19-20 years old makes me laugh everytime I think about it.

 

[orthodox_spin]

Fudging is tantamount to cheating. It should be dealt with strictly as it denies another individual of an opportunity.

So called Naya Pakistan.

 

[Cric_lover4487]

I am sure Kohli didn't fudged his age. A cousin of mine played school cricket U15 with him. I still believe Shami and Dhoni fudged their ages. Don't know how the system in Pakistan is. Naseem Shah looks 21 year old to me.

 

[MenInG]

[REPORT] Faisal Iqbal pulled up by PIA for providing wrong name and incorrect year of birth

Report in media suggests that following 3 players have been issued show cause notices for fake degrees and providing incorrect personal data to the PIA.

Players and their charges:

1. Faisal Iqbal, for providing the wrong name and incorrect year of birth.

2. Zahid Ahmed for fake degrees

3. Azeem Hafeez for fake degrees

 

[Mamoon]

PCB:

Faisal Iqbal should be punished for faking his age.

Also PCB:

Naseem Shah was 16 in 2016 and 16 in 2019.

 

[Bewal Express]

PCB:

Faisal Iqbal should be punished for faking his age.

Also PCB:

Naseem Shah was 16 in 2016 and 16 in 2019.

This was done so that Rameez has something to talk about because I could swear that bar talking about his age, he has nothing intelligent to talk about.

 

[Hasan123]

So when will Ifitkhar be punished?

 

[Fantasy]

I read that it wasn’t PCB but PIA of whom they are employees.

 

[MenInG]

Please note its PIA who have issued show cause.

 

[The cricket enthusiast]

Report in media suggests that following 3 players have been issued show cause notices for fake degrees and providing incorrect personal data to the PIA.

Players and their charges:

1. Faisal Iqbal, for providing the wrong name and incorrect year of birth.

2. Zahid Ahmed for fake degrees

3. Azeem Hafeez for fake degrees

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