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Ahmed Shehzad - A star in the making

speed said:
do you think he is more talented than u akmal?
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Doesn't matter what I think; both are extremely talented, but 'll fade out unless nurtured properly.

Fundamental difference between Batsman & Bowler is that, bowling is more about natural ability & instinctive, while batting is more technical, methodical & process oriented. Bowling is more of a physical effort, while batting is mostly mental aspects. I think, you are born as a great bowler, but developed into a great batsman. Whenever a talented young batsman starts his career, often he starts with a bang; great shots, sparkling strokes, eye catching flairs. But after few matches, opposition starts to work on the youngster, study him & exploits the weaknesses, when the real test starts.

I was fortunate to see almost ball by ball Faisal Iqbal's debut Test & can safely say, in 16 years career, NO ENGLISHMAN had ever played Shane that confidently like him. But, from next innings Shane had him confused & caught off-guard. Same story goes for most PAK young batsmen - Md. Wasim, Imran Nazir & Taufique Umar, had brilliant career starts for first 1/2 years, but never could improve their game or work on weaknesses through the "Kiss & Hug" style novices appointed by PCB as "Coach". Since 90s, when ECB restricted foreigners quota in English County, apart from naturally gifted Inzi (who was fortunate to have the greatest motivator as guide at the start) only 2 world class batsmen came from PAK, YK & MoYo, who were lucky that they had Bob for a considerable period.

Having said that, both Shehzad & Umar are extremely talented (Actually Amin as well, trust me), but it depends how much they can take their game to next level, with the help of a Pro coach & how much discipline & hungry they are. Dav can take all three to highest level (At NCA Bangalore, Virat, Rohit, Puzara, Raina & Rahne worked with him for few years & Sakib was almost hand picked by him at 17), if they become a good cricket students. Keep MHK for 2 more years Shehzad 'll hardly get the chance, Amin 'll be gone in wilderness & Umar 'll become a cross-breed between Nazir & Afridi.

If you ask me to pick in orders, mine 'll be Shehzad, Umar & then Amin.
 
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MR__KHAN__JI said:
Saeed Anwars scores read like telephone numbers...
Inzamam started off with low scores....
Younis Khan started off with low scores....
Even MoYo's record before 2006 is not overly impressive.
And that is just the greats... our average players started with even worse scores.

the list is endless.

Being a success domestically is no guarantee of success in international cricket - the standard of domestic cricket is not good enough.

Like you said - Farhat scored so many runs and cant do anything internationally.... hence why training in international team is needed.
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Saeed Anwar was dropped because of inconsistency after scoring 2 centuries. He was out of the team for almost 2 years. He did not feature in the 1992 World cup for Pakistan.

Inzimam first few scores 20,60,48,60,101,117 before World Cup. Avg of 67 before contributing a part in the World Cup win. Are these low scores to you

Mohammad Yousuf 59*,66,15,0,39,92,0,100,55*,24. Avg of 56.25 in the first 10 games is not a low start.

Younus Khan has never been a great player in ODIs so not to be considered for comparison.

As I said Farhat selection is parchi and the selector had a valid reason to get him selected because of that domestic performance so he will be out very soon.
 
youboy said:
Saeed Anwar was dropped because of inconsistency after scoring 2 centuries. He was out of the team for almost 2 years. He did not feature in the 1992 World cup for Pakistan.

Inzimam first few scores 20,60,48,60,101,117 before World Cup. Avg of 67 before contributing a part in the World Cup win. Are these low scores to you

Mohammad Yousuf 59*,66,15,0,39,92,0,100,55*,24. Avg of 56.25 in the first 10 games is not a low start.

Younus Khan has never been a great player in ODIs so not to be considered for comparison.

As I said Farhat selection is parchi and the selector had a valid reason to get him selected because of that domestic performance so he will be out very soon.
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exactly.

And besides an example of younis khan (yousuf's actually been pretty consistent throughout his test career), a player who dramatically improved after a point of time to vault that average over 50, younis is and has been one of the best players in the domestic scene.

Sometimes players from the domestic scene will take longer to adapt to internationals. But they'll get there. If you can't cut it in domestic, chances are you won't cut it in internationals. And you almost certainly won't be great batsman averaging 50 or so (or more).

What the past tells us is that you have to persist with your top scoring domestic batsmen. Don't discard them so readily. As if they've piled on runs in domestic and shown their class they've earned it. Those with lowish averages drafted into internationals are often not ready, they haven't dominated domestic yet. Let them do that before we pick them for internationals. And if they can't do that, then what hope do they have of dominating in international matches?
 
Shahzad is a talented fellow but if PCB want him to get his attitude sorted out, they should just tell him on his face and also in the media. I remember reading his interview few days back where he didnt find anything bad about his attitude.

Its getting worse every day
 
sunnykhan said:
Time for u to stop posting garbage?
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The irony....

I was just joking. Would you have come in this thread and posted if Shehzad had done the same thing to a player not named Shahzaib? You treat Shahzaib like he's a family member. Being a fan is one thin but sometimes you just go OTT. If Shahzaib is related to you then i apologize for my above post as I didn't mean to hurt you.
 
Inswinger said:
The irony....

I was just joking. Would you have come in this thread and posted if Shehzad had done the same thing to a player not named Shahzaib? You treat Shahzaib like he's a family member. Being a fan is one thin but sometimes you just go OTT. If Shahzaib is related to you then i apologize for my above post as I didn't mean to hurt you.
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I would have posted here even if Ahmed had abused any other PAK player other than Shahzaib. That was just not the way to abuse your fellow countrymen after being hit for a boundary. OTT? I find your stupid jokes OTT. This is a cricket forum I guess. Than u should stick to cricket my frd.
 
sunnykhan said:
I would have posted here even if Ahmed had abused any other PAK player other than Shahzaib. That was just not the way to abuse your fellow countrymen after being hit for a boundary. OTT? I find your stupid jokes OTT. This is a cricket forum I guess. Than u should stick to cricket my frd.
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Whatever helps you sleep at night. I feel for your brother.
 
Bro, there's no harm in admitting if he's related to you. I already apologized for my joke.
 
Y are we ruining this thread by talking about a tape ball player. Shahzaib sorry not in a 100 mil light years.
 
iBaig said:
Y are we ruining this thread by talking about a tape ball player. Shahzaib sorry not in a 100 mil light years.
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Yet he scores same amount of runs like ahmad and some times even more in the tournaments and yesterday with SR of 209 :P And still he is 100 light years behind. Great going Shahzaib!
 
NNNNOOOOOO, only Fawad Alam can be the 'star in the making'

Signed,
Fawadians :)))
 
This kid needs to be opening for Pakistan, ffs. He's the only opener in the past few years who has shown the desire to score big once settled, an attribute lacking in many players we currently have in the side.
 
Boi said:
This kid needs to be opening for Pakistan, ffs. He's the only opener in the past few years who has shown the desire to score big once settled, an attribute lacking in many players we currently have in the side.
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It's not rocket science really is it?
 
Just bring him back to the ODI team .. he is better than Farhat and loves to attack .. on his day he can destroy any team .. i like the kid and the spark in him .. he can be the next explosive thing for PAK if given a better chance.
 
I am convinced Shehzad will be selected for the Asia cup.

Really looking forward to seeing him bat.
 
Ahmed Shahzad - International standard

I hate to say this because I never really liked Ahmed Shahzad due to his sheer arrogance and attitude BUT even if he gets our right now in the game, we must admit that he is International Standard player. Maybe someone need to to guide him and be a mentor.
Looking at malik before he got out was a sad affair, he had fear of failing in his eyes and Shahzad was guiding him it looks.

Players such as Latif just lacks the confidence playing International cricket, his sort of players are only good for domestic. One thing goes for Shehzad is his confidence.

What you guys think.
 
Shehzad is one for the future. He was dropped because of his atitude not lack of performance. So if he can behave, I don't see why he should not be in the limited overs team.
 
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He is super confident and I must say junior akmal and shahzad are the most confident young pakistani batsmen.
 
hes still young and is playing better then hafeez , latifs , maliks
 
thelandofthebravepeople said:
Shehzad is one for the future. He was dropped because of his atitude not lack of performance. So if he can behave, I don't see why he should not be in the limited side team.
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What's all this big fuss about attitude?

Do we want all "Yes, bowler sir, please bowl me out" type of players or do we want players who have a bit of an attitude, and who can take the fight to the opposition?
 
shehzad and umar akmal are the only international class batsmen in the t20 side , the rest are ordinary , sad but true.
 
One thing i like about Ahmad Shehzad is his confidence, same with Umar Akmal.

After 2-3 Years these guys will became a great asset for Pakistan Cricket Team.
 
His attitude is what I love.


He isn't afraid. Isn't intimidated. Not another "yes sir"
 
Attitude is what has kept him back.

As a player, he is class. One of the more talented players in Pakistan especially for his age. Technically, he is very sound, you can tell with how he approaches his batting.

Hopefully, he gains maturity and has a successful career of which I am sure he's capable of.
 
Really happy with his performance today. Still very young, I think he's going to be a great player for us.
 
Desi_Joker said:
What's all this big fuss about attitude?

Do we want all "Yes, bowler sir, please bowl me out" type of players or do we want players who have a bit of an attitude, and who can take the fight to the opposition?
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It wasn't that part of his attitude which caused problems.

Unfortunately, he was seen being scolded by Waqar on a few occasions for being late to practices. Just a lack of seriousness towards his game. This is where attitude becomes a serious negative.

I hope that is all in the past now.
 
kingusama92 said:
It wasn't that part of his attitude which caused problems.

Unfortunately, he was seen being scolded by Waqar on a few occasions for being late to practices. Just a lack of seriousness towards his game. This is where attitude becomes a serious negative.

I hope that is all in the past now.
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I hope so.

Lad has something about him...
 
Swore after getting out. That shows he hates getting out and sign of that he'll try to improve. :Virat
 
kungfu90 said:
Swore after getting out. That shows he hates getting out and sign of that he'll try to improve. :Virat
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That's something we need.
I always thought Ahmed Shahzad and Virat were very similar.

Virat has piled up tons of runs which Ahmed needs to catch up on. I want Ahmed to play for RCB next year.
 
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Accumulator said:
exactly!!!:)) it makes me laugh to see people who really believe ahmed is 19. the funniest comment was that about DNA test.. yeh konsa DNA test hora hay jissay 100% correct age pata chal rahi hay? :13: my friends are FC cricketers and God knows how many different birth certificates they have :)))
even Sikander bakht once narrated a short story about a player who got younger and younger with each passing year. He had a younger sister.. and after a few years, she became older than him :)))
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SO funnnnny :))):)))
 
He played a good innings yesterday .. but just when we needed him to fire up .. he lost his wicket ... but for sure he has the talent and the temperament .. he just needs proper guidance from the coach and senior players ... I wish him best of luck!!
 
Massive talent. Big player. Keep him and allow him to develop correctly. Don't ruin another talent. Jamshed & Shehzad future openers.
 
What I found, he has talent but his arrogance could limit his game.

I don't see hunger and motivation to become a big time player. ( I have not seen these two factors in any of the current youngster).
 
zaid65 said:
What I found, he has talent but his arrogance could limit his game.

I don't see hunger and motivation to become a big time player. ( I have not seen these two factors in any of the current youngster).
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It just needs to be channelled correctly....

Ponting was the same.
 
MR__KHAN__JI said:
It just needs to be channelled correctly....

Ponting was the same.
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Top example with Punter.

Definitely very similar. Talented players that came into the side young and were brash and angry young men. Shahzad may not have the ability of a Ponting, but a similar approach should be taken with him. Don't kick him out (unless he completely crosses the line), just have faith.

Ponting was kept in line, but they developed him. They didn't give up on him and move to the next guy despite his attitude.

Worked out fine with him.
 
kingusama92 said:
Top example with Punter.

Definitely very similar. Talented players that came into the side young and were brash and angry young men. Shahzad may not have the ability of a Ponting, but a similar approach should be taken with him. Don't kick him out (unless he completely crosses the line), just have faith.

Ponting was kept in line, but they developed him. They didn't give up on him and move to the next guy despite his attitude.

Worked out fine with him.
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I guess the potential difference is work ethic....

Ponting loved batting and worked hard it... Does Shahzad do the same? ie work hard at his batting?

I certainly hope so.

2 ODI centuries at 19.

Only 17 Pak players have actually made more centuries - EVER.
 
looks talented...definitely one for the future!reminds me of virat in terms of looks...
 
really sucks in sri lanka in the world cup and know in the spl any reason why he struggles in sl?

he needs to perform whenever he gets the chance because hafeez, a ali, farhat are all ahead of him in the eyes of selectors and with kami in the squad we have 4 players that can open.
 
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loves ducks, already has 2 in 5 innings in SLPL, both Farhat and him are tied with 2 each.
 
Over-hyped leg side hack.. when he started off he had all the shots in book.. but I guess he spent too much time with Afridi..
 
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