Alleged Indian government involvement in plots to assassinate Sikh separatists living in the West

[rpant_gabba]

Continue to engage privately? after throwing a unsubsantiated public aliegation in parliment?

Govt of Canada doesn't seem very bright.

 

[Romali_rotti]

So wait here a second. According to you this video somehow proves that he is a violent terrorist and not fighting for a just cause,

Wait a second back to you too, the video shows him supporting a murder but that according to you that doesnt prove the empty lander is violent huh.. Yeah Okk....

but when Canadian and US intel confirms India’s hand in his assassination, that’s not good enough for you? When they make such claims about

Canadian and US intel confirmed that India was behind the assassination ? Please show me, ohh and showing reports which says; 'may have' 'could have' 'would have' etc is not confirmation that Indians were behind it.

So how come it’s not good enough in this case?

And what evidence do you really want? You want classified intel of top intel agencies in the world? You want somehow such sensitive stuff about ongoing investigations to be shared with disgruntled Indians? Haha

If such a big accusation is made, surely your supposed allies can provide better back up than like above, 'may have' 'could have', 'might have' or whatever rubbish...

Perhaps this intel has already been shared with Modi ji. Don’t think he or his government would ever admit to it though.

Another 'may have' scenario with no proof or validity.


Bold...

 

[Romali_rotti]

When they make such claims about Pakistan somehow it’s ok with your “moralistic Indians”, isn’t it?

My friend, Pakistan had Osama Bin Laden living comfortably as a guest of honor,

Qadir Khan has been proven to be a dangerous nuclear proliferator,

Then you have the model citizens like Masood Azhar living comfortably in Pakistan who his listed as a global terrorist.

Whatever mess Pakistan is currently is in is because of Pakistan's own doing, Pakistan has been playing a lot of stupid games since its creation and they keen winning many seriously stupid prizes like mentioned above.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Private talks?

Why?

Your PM wanted to make unsubstantiated allegations on India openly in your parliament and now you want private talks.

I hope India doesn't budge. And next step should be to close down the Canadian consulate in Chandigarh.

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'Talks best when private': Canada after India reportedly asks diplomats to leave

After India reportedly asked Canada to withdraw its 41 diplomats from India, Canada's Foreign Minister, Melanie Joly, stated that the country seeks private talks with New Delhi to resolve the diplomatic crisis.

"We are in contact with the government of India. We take Canadian diplomats' safety very seriously and we will continue to engage privately because we think diplomatic conversations are best when they remain private," the Canadian minister said.

On Tuesday, India reportedly asked Canada to withdraw approximately 40 diplomats by October 10. As per reports, the government has also threatened to strip the diplomatic immunity of any Canadian diplomat who remains in the country after the deadline.

According to a Financial Times report, India has requested Canada to reduce its diplomatic presence in India from 62 to 41 diplomats. However, as of now, neither India nor Canada has officially responded to the report.

In another development on Tuesday, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said that his country is not looking to escalate the situation with India. Canada will continue to "engage responsibly and constructively with New Delhi". Trudeau said his government "want(s) to be on the ground in India to help Canadian families".

Diplomatic relations between the two countries deteriorated recently after Trudeau alleged the "potential" involvement of Indian agents in the killing of Khalistani terrorist Hardeep Singh Nijjar, a Canadian citizen who was shot dead by two masked gunmen on June 18 in British Columbia.

However, India responded firmly, dismissing the allegations as 'absurd' and 'motivated.' In a ***-for-tat response to Canada's expulsion of an Indian official connected to the case, the Indian government also expelled a senior Canadian diplomat.
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'Talks best when private': Canada after India reportedly asks diplomats to leave

Canada is seeking private discussions with India to resolve a diplomatic crisis, as India has reportedly asked for the withdrawal of 41 Canadian diplomats.

www.indiatoday.in

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[Hitman]

Private talks?

Why?

Your PM wanted to make unsubstantiated allegations on India openly in your parliament and now you want private talks.

I hope India doesn't budge. And next step should be to close down the Canadian consulate in Chandigarh.
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'Talks best when private': Canada after India reportedly asks diplomats to leave

After India reportedly asked Canada to withdraw its 41 diplomats from India, Canada's Foreign Minister, Melanie Joly, stated that the country seeks private talks with New Delhi to resolve the diplomatic crisis.

"We are in contact with the government of India. We take Canadian diplomats' safety very seriously and we will continue to engage privately because we think diplomatic conversations are best when they remain private," the Canadian minister said.

On Tuesday, India reportedly asked Canada to withdraw approximately 40 diplomats by October 10. As per reports, the government has also threatened to strip the diplomatic immunity of any Canadian diplomat who remains in the country after the deadline.

According to a Financial Times report, India has requested Canada to reduce its diplomatic presence in India from 62 to 41 diplomats. However, as of now, neither India nor Canada has officially responded to the report.

In another development on Tuesday, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said that his country is not looking to escalate the situation with India. Canada will continue to "engage responsibly and constructively with New Delhi". Trudeau said his government "want(s) to be on the ground in India to help Canadian families".

Diplomatic relations between the two countries deteriorated recently after Trudeau alleged the "potential" involvement of Indian agents in the killing of Khalistani terrorist Hardeep Singh Nijjar, a Canadian citizen who was shot dead by two masked gunmen on June 18 in British Columbia.

However, India responded firmly, dismissing the allegations as 'absurd' and 'motivated.' In a ***-for-tat response to Canada's expulsion of an Indian official connected to the case, the Indian government also expelled a senior Canadian diplomat.

'Talks best when private': Canada after India reportedly asks diplomats to leave

Canada is seeking private discussions with India to resolve a diplomatic crisis, as India has reportedly asked for the withdrawal of 41 Canadian diplomats.

www.indiatoday.in

So he had no problem in accusing India openly in the parliament. But now he wants to talk privately? What a joke!

 

[gani999]

So he had no problem in accusing India openly in the parliament. But now he wants to talk privately? What a joke!

Only one party has benefited from this whole saga - The Khalistanis. Their so-called struggle, long dead in India, has suddenly got itself worldwide publicity. It is also sad that the ties between India and Canada have been affected because of these fools.

 

[Stewie]

My friend, Pakistan had Osama Bin Laden living comfortably as a guest of honor,

Qadir Khan has been proven to be a dangerous nuclear proliferator,

Then you have the model citizens like Masood Azhar living comfortably in Pakistan who his listed as a global terrorist.

Whatever mess Pakistan is currently is in is because of Pakistan's own doing, Pakistan has been playing a lot of stupid games since its creation and they keen winning many seriously stupid prizes like mentioned above.

What proof is good enough? Bin Laden was hiding in Pakistan found guilty of killing ~3k Americans whereas in India someone responsible for the deaths of ~1k Indian is now their leader? Where is the difference in attitude coming from? Lesser loss of life or somehow Indian Muslims lives don’t count?
Apparently at that time the evidence was good enough for western nations to block that murderer from setting foot on their shores.

So once again the question is what evidence is good enough and why these selective attitudes in accepting some evidence when it’s convenient to your cause and rejecting it when it doesn’t.

 

[RexRex]

It is really sad to see how gullibe many Indians can be about their own politicians

None of them will even face the cameras and take questions from journalists because they know their base will blindly believe everything that they say.

 

[FPresidential]

Again, none of the video from Bharati media has minimal requirement for anyone to be declared terrorist.

Separatist, who is happy to see a politician dead because the said politician killed many of their own citizen does not make them terrorist. lol

A rich and influential political aggressors has always and will always declare anyone who stand up for their right to be terrorist. Everyone has seen this played out many times.

 

[FPresidential]

My friend, Pakistan had Osama Bin Laden living comfortably as a guest of honor,

Qadir Khan has been proven to be a dangerous nuclear proliferator,

Then you have the model citizens like Masood Azhar living comfortably in Pakistan who his listed as a global terrorist.

Whatever mess Pakistan is currently is in is because of Pakistan's own doing, Pakistan has been playing a lot of stupid games since its creation and they keen winning many seriously stupid prizes like mentioned above.

So has India but India is rich, that is the difference, had Pakistani army and politician strengthen the economy and build a capability to buy a Gucci belt then just as India, Pakistan would be another 3rd world country harboring terrorist with a Gucci belt with one difference, Pakistani will not be electing terrorist to represent them

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Again, none of the video from Bharati media has minimal requirement for anyone to be declared terrorist.

Separatist, who is happy to see a politician dead because the said politician killed many of their own citizen does not make them terrorist. lol

A rich and influential political aggressors has always and will always declare anyone who stand up for their right to be terrorist. Everyone has seen this played out many times.

Pakistan is also doing the same thing, throwing around the word terrorist to eliminate their enemies (usually on behalf of outside parties) but this is just the way the subcontinent works now. They watch how the western propaganda machine works then try to copy it, usually the end result is quite inferior, a bit like a fake gucci bag you'd find in Dehli or Lahore.

 

[Stewie]

it is appalling to see the indian posters defend their government here over this issue.

At leat man up and admit your government conducted an extra judicial kiling. if you can get away with it, countries do this stuff. the west does it all the time. dont get all hot and bothered under the collar because you are being called out for it. Your PM has already killed thousands. whats one more?

 

[FearlessRoar]

If India ordered a murder in Canada, there must be consequences.

Western countries have for too long acquiesced to the Indian government’s abuses.

For years, India objected to Western strategists lumping it together with its violent and chaotic neighbour in the phrase Indo-Pakistan. Now recognised as a fast-growing giant and a potential bulwark against China, India claims to have been de-hyphenated. Yet the explosive charge aired this week by Justin Trudeau suggests that diplomatic recalibration may have gone too far.

Canada’s prime minister alleges that Indian agents were involved in the murder in Vancouver of a Canadian citizen sympathetic to India’s Sikh separatist movement. India has long been accused of assassinating militants and dissidents in its own region; never previously in the friendly and orderly West. And though India calls the victim, Hardeep Singh Nijjar, a terrorist, and had offered a reward for information leading to his arrest, he had rebuffed Indian allegations linking him to separatist violence.

India denies everything. But Canada is reported to have shared intelligence about the murder with its allies in the Five Eyes pact. None appears to have questioned it. Shortly after Mr Trudeau levelled the charge in Canada’s parliament, America and Britain released cautiously supportive statements, urging India to co-operate with a Canadian probe. The killing, by two unknown gunmen outside a Sikh temple in June, followed a spike in both Sikh separatist activity and at times heavy-handed Indian suppression of it.

Source: The Economist

 

[rpant_gabba]

It is really sad to see how gullibe many Indians can be about their own politicians

None of them will even face the cameras and take questions from journalists because they know their base will blindly believe everything that they say.

What exactly are we gullible about? if any thing you are the gullible one wiling to swallow JT allegation as evidence.

Sad really

 

[rpant_gabba]

Guess not further action from Canada on the Nijjar case.

Plenty from GOI

Canada evacuates diplomats from Delhi to Southeast Asia: Report

With New Delhi asking Canada to withdraw 41 out its 62 diplomats in India by October 10 to achieve a parity in the number of diplomatic staff in each country, Ottawa has reportedly evacuated its staff from its High Commission to Southeast Asia, according to a media report.

www.tribuneindia.com

Canada evacuates diplomats from Delhi to Southeast Asia: Report​

The news comes amid claims by Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Joly on Tuesday that the government was engaged diplomatically with India on the issue of staff reduction​

 

[rpant_gabba]

Canadian govt is coming thro as a bunch of clowns.

*** were they expecting?

 

[Romali_rotti]

This is not really a whole of Canada issue to be fair.

Trudeau is not a bad guy here imo, he just needs Jagmeet Singh's support to win majority and be the PM, he doesnt care about any empty land. Poor guy is in the shi* now, no turning back, it looks like all is going right down the hill for Justin...

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Only one party has benefited from this whole saga - The Khalistanis. Their so-called struggle, long dead in India, has suddenly got itself worldwide publicity. It is also sad that the ties between India and Canada have been affected because of these fools.

You are right they have no support in India. So why assassinate someone living thousands of miles in the diaspora? The Sikhs who left in the 80's, left during a time where they faced persecution, so its not surprising that some of them will not like India and support Khalistan.

However the Sikhs in India have no desire for a independent state, or even autonomy. These people in the diaspora will lose there ties to India anyway in a few generations, so why care what they think.

Ultimately the Khalistanis in the diaspora are not responsible for bad ties between Canada and India, its the person who ordered the assassination of an irrelevant person thousands of miles away.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

So he had no problem in accusing India openly in the parliament. But now he wants to talk privately? What a joke!

Per news they raised it privately with India, and then they learned it was going to leak in media, so that is when Truedau raised the issue in parliment.

A citizen of his country was assassinated. Should he no bring it up? Should they not protest? Ultimately nothing will happen to India, except that Modi will be viewed like a thug

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

What exactly are we gullible about? if any thing you are the gullible one wiling to swallow JT allegation as evidence.

Sad really

Its not only his allegation. Other western intelligence has said the same thing. Why would he ever accuse an important country like India if he did not have rock solid evidence?

Because some Sikhs who left in the 80's support Khalistan? There are plenty of Sikhs, probably majority, in Canada who dont care about it, not to mention the other Indians who dont.

 

[uppercut]

It is really sad to see how gullibe many Indians can be about their own politicians

None of them will even face the cameras and take questions from journalists because they know their base will blindly believe everything that they say.

What do you mean "none of them go on camera" ? S Jaishakar the Minister of External Affairs is one of the most visible and accessible top BJP leaders out there and he has given direct answers on this topic (multiple times and at length). Similarly many other BJP top leaders speak out as and when necessary. Infact their official National Spokesperson is Sudhanshu Trivedi is one awesome debater who just burry's those opposing his views in a lengthy debate with a deluge of facts leaving the scambags arguing against him to indulge in screaming/yelling/shouting. Go search youtube and see for yourselves you will not find a more articulate person armed with encyclopedic knowledge about history and current events.

 

[uppercut]

Its not only his allegation. Other western intelligence has said the same thing. Why would he ever accuse an important country like India if he did not have rock solid evidence?

Because some Sikhs who left in the 80's support Khalistan? There are plenty of Sikhs, probably majority, in Canada who dont care about it, not to mention the other Indians who dont.

So what's stopping Canada from producing the evidence .... its been nearly a month you know.

 

[gani999]

You are right they have no support in India. So why assassinate someone living thousands of miles in the diaspora? The Sikhs who left in the 80's, left during a time where they faced persecution, so its not surprising that some of them will not like India and support Khalistan.

However the Sikhs in India have no desire for a independent state, or even autonomy. These people in the diaspora will lose there ties to India anyway in a few generations, so why care what they think.

Ultimately the Khalistanis in the diaspora are not responsible for bad ties between Canada and India, its the person who ordered the assassination of an irrelevant person thousands of miles away.

How do you know the assassination was ordered by India? The Canadians have made the accusation based on 'evidence that cannot be shared', and India has repeatedly denied all involvement.
Nijjar was apparently a thug who indulged in drug deals and other crimes. How do we know that he was not bumped off by someone he pissed off?
Please don't speculate.

 

[rpant_gabba]

Its not only his allegation. Other western intelligence has said the same thing.

Really? care to produce sources?

Why would he ever accuse an important country like India if he did not have rock solid evidence?

Becos JT didnt want a repeat problem of Chinese interference issue? This has been the message from canadian media including CBC.

Watch this exchange

It is up to Canada to provide evidence. SIGINT is not evidence. If Canada feel the SIGINT is credible they should take it to the court and file a case and further action against indian diplomats instead crying non stop. Canada is powerful western country isn't it?

Here is Bob Fife who forced the issue

His words: JT didn't have to handle the issue the way he did. After the story came out in the media first, they could have said for national security reasons and on going police investigation, we are not going to say anything on this issue. we are talking to India and our allies and leave it at that. By directly accusing India/Modi, they painted them into a corner.

Because some Sikhs who left in the 80's support Khalistan? There are plenty of Sikhs, probably majority, in Canada who dont care about it, not to mention the other Indians who dont.

On this we agree.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

How do you know the assassination was ordered by India? The Canadians have made the accusation based on 'evidence that cannot be shared', and India has repeatedly denied all involvement.
Nijjar was apparently a thug who indulged in drug deals and other crimes. How do we know that he was not bumped off by someone he pissed off?
Please don't speculate.

This is a forum, speculation is only natural.

And Its fair to ask Canada to give proof, however its not only Canadian intelligence making the allegation. Intelligence shared by the 5 eyes (UK, USA, Canada, Austrlia, NZ) helped Canada determine that it was India. And its understandable if a country does not want to give there source and method used to get intelligence.

Why would Trudeau accuse India unless he had rock solid evidence? Does not make sense. He would not damage relations with India because a small % of diaspora Sikhs support Khalistan.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

So what's stopping Canada from producing the evidence .... its been nearly a month you know.

not wanting to give there souces? methods used?

however its fair to ask for evidence, and Canada should release as much as possible, however not realistic to expect 100% details. Per news the smoking gun was communications of Indian diplomats. They should release as soon as safe to do so.

 

[rpant_gabba]

not wanting to give there souces? methods used?

Then there is no obligation on India to do anything is there? Canadian govt can't expect a sovereign nation to act based on vague allegation, while their diplomats are being threatened in their country.

however its fair to ask for evidence, and Canada should release as much as possible,

They have had plenty of time to do this and if not, shouldn't have made such undiplomatic move

Per news the smoking gun was communications of Indian diplomats.

Nothing i have read have stated there is a smoking gun. Please post your news sources

They should release as soon as safe to do so.

And admit to illegal wiretapping on Diplomats? sure. that will go over well

 

[FPresidential]

not wanting to give there souces? methods used?

however its fair to ask for evidence, and Canada should release as much as possible, however not realistic to expect 100% details. Per news the smoking gun was communications of Indian diplomats. They should release as soon as safe to do so.

This point has been highlighted on the first two pages of this thread. Evidence narrative is repeated by bharati because that’s all they’ve left to muddy the water or they are just that naive to repeat whatever they get from Bharati media, politicians and Modi’s WhatsApp group.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This is a forum, speculation is only natural.

And Its fair to ask Canada to give proof, however its not only Canadian intelligence making the allegation. Intelligence shared by the 5 eyes (UK, USA, Canada, Austrlia, NZ) helped Canada determine that it was India. And its understandable if a country does not want to give there source and method used to get intelligence.

Why would Trudeau accuse India unless he had rock solid evidence? Does not make sense. He would not damage relations with India because a small % of diaspora Sikhs support Khalistan.

Has us uk Australia NZ accused India? No.

He was given a cold shoulder in India. He was so embarrassed that even Canadian media made fun of him.

So he tried to pull this trick off. He probably didn't think India's response would be so aggressive and that India would escalate.

 

[cricketjoshila]

not wanting to give there souces? methods used?

however its fair to ask for evidence, and Canada should release as much as possible, however not realistic to expect 100% details. Per news the smoking gun was communications of Indian diplomats. They should release as soon as safe to do so.

Its all media speculation. Nothing else.

No Canadian official has said what this "credible allegations" include.

 

[rpant_gabba]

This point has been highlighted on the first two pages of this thread. Evidence narrative is repeated by bharati because that’s all they’ve left to muddy the water or they are just that naive to repeat whatever they get from Bharati media, politicians and Modi’s WhatsApp group.

So you accept accusations against you without evidence?

If cannot disclose the information they don't have a case in court and have to take whatever action they need to take independently. They are free to to do.

 

[uppercut]

not wanting to give there souces? methods used?

however its fair to ask for evidence, and Canada should release as much as possible, however not realistic to expect 100% details. Per news the smoking gun was communications of Indian diplomats. They should release as soon as safe to do so.

This works both ways .... India's problems with Canada date back to the 80s. If CA can drag their feet and give a run around, then Ind certainly can play the same game and as JT has found out far more effectively.


do you see how there is radio silence when it comes to CA's brazen and attrocious past behavior including sheltering someone like Nijjar who had a interpol arrest warrant ? Thats just plain diregard to international laws and if CA thinks it can get away with that then India is certainly well within its rights to protect its interests at all costs.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Trudeau’s evidence so far is - “Trust me bro”.

 

[Romali_rotti]

So any evidence yet ? Or is the evidence only provided to Pakistanis on this forum by the Canadians and no one else still ?

I am getting tired of this; 'may have' 'could have' 'might have' speculative evidence with zero substance.

 

[FPresidential]

So you accept accusations against you without evidence?

If cannot disclose the information they don't have a case in court and have to take whatever action they need to take independently. They are free to to do.

Dude! It’s understandable that Bharati are getting worked up but Canadian aren’t reacting not retaliating, they’ve done what they needed to, only party acting up and escalating is Bharat, and Bharat has to because they are left with no choice, domestic consumption when election are on the brink makes it hell of drug for the politician and the followers of the cult.

 

[gani999]

Dude! It’s understandable that Bharati are getting worked up but Canadian aren’t reacting not retaliating, they’ve done what they needed to, only party acting up and escalating is Bharat, and Bharat has to because they are left with no choice, domestic consumption when election are on the brink makes it hell of drug for the politician and the followers of the cult.

Modi is still India's most popular leader and doesn't have to resort to cheap gimmicks to win the next election. Trudeau on the other hand, has his popularity at an all time and low and needs the support of Jagmeet Singh the Khalistani to stay in power.
Trudeau has burned his fingers badly, and India isn't giving up just yet.
It is so good to see India standing up to a so-called 'first world' state like Canada. It's something the likes of Pakistan can't even dream of.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Then there is no obligation on India to do anything is there? Canadian govt can't expect a sovereign nation to act based on vague allegation, while their diplomats are being threatened in their country.

They have had plenty of time to do this and if not, shouldn't have made such undiplomatic move

Nothing i have read have stated there is a smoking gun. Please post your news sources

And admit to illegal wiretapping on Diplomats? sure. that will go over well

Here is the source about the smoking gun https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/23/us/politics/canada-sikh-leader-killing-intelligence.html

Yet what appears to be the “smoking gun,” intercepted communications of Indian diplomats in Canada indicating involvement in the plot, was gathered by Canadian officials, allied officials said.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Has us uk Australia NZ accused India? No.

He was given a cold shoulder in India. He was so embarrassed that even Canadian media made fun of him.

So he tried to pull this trick off. He probably didn't think India's response would be so aggressive and that India would escalate.

Because they do not want to damage relations with India, especially since they need India as a hedge against China.


Also he was given the cold shoulder because he brought up the issue privately.

Same way we all know who ordered the hit on jamal khashoggi entire world knows who did this.

 

[rpant_gabba]

Here is the source about the smoking gun https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/23/us/politics/canada-sikh-leader-killing-intelligence.html

>>>Yet what appears to be the “smoking gun,” intercepted communications of Indian diplomats in Canada indicating involvement in the plot, was gathered by Canadian officials, allied officials said.<<

Is that all? appears to be be? unnamed allied officials? you do realize this is same newspaper which said WMD in Iraq is a slam dunk right?

You are way better poster than this.

Canada sure isn't acting like they have a smoking gun. Not a word from govt of canada on what steps they intend take against india with the smoking gun they have. no update from RCMP about the open murder investigation.

In the mean time, India just expelled 41 more diplomats.

Read what you will from that

 

[rpant_gabba]

yup thats I would post if I had nothing.

Dude! It’s understandable that Bharati are getting worked up but Canadian aren’t reacting not retaliating, they’ve done what they needed to,

Which is what throw up an allegation, that they can't prove, in an unresolved murder case? incompetence at its finest. Only those who are equally incompetent will celebrate that

only party acting up and escalating is Bharat, and Bharat has to because they are left with no choice, domestic consumption when election are on the brink makes it hell of drug for the politician and the followers of the cult.

No a peep out of any indian politician so far. Pretty much being handled by MEW professionals.

 

[rpant_gabba]

Also he was given the cold shoulder because he brought up the issue privately.

You haven't been paying attention.

JT has been taking shots at India and current GOI since 2015

About how he has more sikhs in his cabinet than India

The disastrous 2018 trip to india with his bollywood style costume changes

the tweet/interference during farmers protest

Same way we all know who ordered the hit on jamal khashoggi entire world knows who did this.

Turks were gutsy enough to release all SIGINT publically. Until Canada does, they will continue be the weak laughing stock.

 

[FPresidential]

Modi is still India's most popular leader and doesn't have to resort to cheap gimmicks to win the next election. Trudeau on the other hand, has his popularity at an all time and low and needs the support of Jagmeet Singh the Khalistani to stay in power.
Trudeau has burned his fingers badly, and India isn't giving up just yet.
It is so good to see India standing up to a so-called 'first world' state like Canada. It's something the likes of Pakistan can't even dream of.

Y’all keep repeating the same mantra over and over.

Canada isn’t escalating because they don’t need to, Canada presented the case and removed the bharati intelligence officer and that’s about it.

Modi has escalated and continued to escalate because as a 3rd world leader and for domestic consumption to appear strong for y’all he had no choice but to escalate, see the difference, it shouldn’t be hard for any IT professional to understand the meaning of escalation.

Do you understand the meaning of “escalation, escalate, escalated”? Or need further explanation?

 

[FPresidential]

yup thats I would post if I had nothing.

Which is what throw up an allegation, that they can't prove, in an unresolved murder case? incompetence at its finest. Only those who are equally incompetent will celebrate that

No a peep out of any indian politician so far. Pretty much being handled by MEW professionals.

Throw allegation? Again, so because that’s how anyone who isn’t bharati can respond to such comments.

bharat escalating has everything to do for domestic consumption and give y’all false sense of superiority, Canada isn’t missing out on anything

 

[gani999]

Y’all keep repeating the same mantra over and over.

Canada isn’t escalating because they don’t need to, Canada presented the case and removed the bharati intelligence officer and that’s about it.

Modi has escalated and continued to escalate because as a 3rd world leader and for domestic consumption to appear strong for y’all he had no choice but to escalate, see the difference, it shouldn’t be hard for any IT professional to understand the meaning of escalation.

Do you understand the meaning of “escalation, escalate, escalated”? Or need further explanation?

Ah, escalate! You learned a new word today and are flaunting it. Good to see you getting some education. Keep it up.


As for India's response, I already explained it to you. Modi need do nothing for any domestic consumption. He is already going to win the next election. India's response is what it is - a so-called 3rd world country showing its anger and telling the 'first world' to get its diplomats packing. You can call it escalation or whatever word you may learn and flaunt online tomorrow.

 

[rpant_gabba]

>>>>>>So whats your prediction on who and what action is gong to be take action against India? Post it. it will bump worthy later

US?

UK?

Aus?

NZ?

Canada?<<<<<<<<<
I've mentioned not my prediction but reality.

5 eyes despise India, India a cesspit according to them, but they are happy to keep India on a leash towards achieving their goal against China. Once again, India being used by the West. Only this time, its stealth mode and the West get to coin money out of it, again.

Remember, Modi was banned by the USA and UK under religious terrorism charges.

Bump all you want.

Any updates?

@RexRex you want to help this guy out?

 

[Technics 1210]

Any updates?

@RexRex you want to help this guy out?

Which part of 'not a prediction but reality' did you not understand in my post?

Fact is, 5 eyes agree, Indian government was behind the killing.

Ahhhh the joy!

 

[FPresidential]

Ah, escalate! You learned a new word today and are flaunting it. Good to see you getting some education. Keep it up.


As for India's response, I already explained it to you. Modi need do nothing for any domestic consumption. He is already going to win the next election. India's response is what it is - a so-called 3rd world country showing its anger and telling the 'first world' to get its diplomats packing. You can call it escalation or whatever word you may learn and flaunt online tomorrow.

I did, aren’t you proud, now I’m teaching you so pay attention this time and master it, such lessons are hard to come by as y’all have packed yourself in a box name called delusional of a cult

You mean to tell me if Modi didn’t escalated then to y’all he wouldn’t look meek, his chati wouldn’t look smaller, and his critics in Bharat wouldn’t repeat over and over that Modi rolled over to 1st world country, it’s not about this incident would’ve eliminated his chance of winning, no one is claiming that as bigoted politicians are in high demands in bharat

As I said, Canada did what they had to and did not escalate, only Modi did to give y’all false sense of superiority over a first world country

 

[rpant_gabba]

India tells Canada to withdraw dozens of diplomatic staff | Financial Times

Rift between Ottawa and New Delhi deepens over murder of Canadian Sikh separatist

www.ft.com

>>>Thomas and other officials who visited India, including Canadian Security Intelligence Service head David Vigneault, had only been able to present the evidence verbally to their Indian counterparts.<<

In other words Canada was telling india: take our word for it.

Can't make this stuff up.

@Gharib Aadmi

 

[uppercut]

I've mentioned not my prediction but reality.

5 eyes despise India, India a cesspit according to them, but they are happy to keep India on a leash towards achieving their goal against China. Once again, India being used by the West. Only this time, its stealth mode and the West get to coin money out of it, again.

Remember, Modi was banned by the USA and UK under religious terrorism charges.

Bump all you want.

5 Eyes does not release evidence in public, but they do share evidence among its members, and all 5 members agree, Indian government sanctioned the killing.

JT evidence is 5 Eyes evidence, and India do not have a leg to stand on.

India going straight into the FATF blacklist then ? Any predictions on the timeline when that might happen?

 

[gani999]

I did, aren’t you proud, now I’m teaching you so pay attention this time and master it, such lessons are hard to come by as y’all have packed yourself in a box name called delusional of a cult

You mean to tell me if Modi didn’t escalated then to y’all he wouldn’t look meek, his chati wouldn’t look smaller, and his critics in Bharat wouldn’t repeat over and over that Modi rolled over to 1st world country, it’s not about this incident would’ve eliminated his chance of winning, no one is claiming that as bigoted politicians are in high demands in bharat

As I said, Canada did what they had to and did not escalate, only Modi did to give y’all false sense of superiority over a first world country

Dude you really need to improve those reading skills there. Not enough to learn random words and flaunt them.

Let me explain once again.

Modi is India's most popular PM ever. Nothing that he does or does not do will make anyone look strong or meek. He is already winning the next election. The fact of the matter is that India is standing up to Canada on this. India is taking a stand and sticking to it. Full stop. Everything else is a product of your fertile imagination.

 

[FPresidential]

Dude you really need to improve those reading skills there. Not enough to learn random words and flaunt them.

Let me explain once again.

Modi is India's most popular PM ever. Nothing that he does or does not do will make anyone look strong or meek. He is already winning the next election. The fact of the matter is that India is standing up to Canada on this. India is taking a stand and sticking to it. Full stop. Everything else is a product of your fertile imagination.

Read my post again, and read it slowly this time.

And enough on personal insult, not that it matter to me because I understand it is not an easy job to defend a bigot but stick to the content of the post

 

[Saanji]

Y’all keep repeating the same mantra over and over.

Canada isn’t escalating because they don’t need to, Canada presented the case and removed the bharati intelligence officer and that’s about it.

Modi has escalated and continued to escalate because as a 3rd world leader and for domestic consumption to appear strong for y’all he had no choice but to escalate, see the difference, it shouldn’t be hard for any IT professional to understand the meaning of escalation.

Do you understand the meaning of “escalation, escalate, escalated”? Or need further explanation?

You don't follow Canadian news do you?
Apart from the natural belief in their leader, most Canadian experts and news channels are worried about the impact it is having on their economy. They have already understood canada cannot afford to retaliate like india because india is stronger. I can share you links from cbc ctv news if you want .

 

[FPresidential]

You don't follow Canadian news do you?
Apart from the natural belief in their leader, most Canadian experts and news channels are worried about the impact it is having on their economy. They have already understood canada cannot afford to retaliate like india because india is stronger. I can share you links from cbc ctv news if you want .

I thought the comment was self-explanatory but I guess some of y'all want to keep playing, "what does that mean"

Canada did what they had to, the follow the procedure and did not want to escalate it. Any PM of Canada would have had to, as any sitting PM, none of them have had any choice but to be open up to public about it.

It is Modi, who is intending to escalate and continue to do so.

Regarding economy hit, nothing has happened yet and nothing will.

 

[Saanji]

I thought the comment was self-explanatory but I guess some of y'all want to keep playing, "what does that mean"

Canada did what they had to, the follow the procedure and did not want to escalate it. Any PM of Canada would have had to, as any sitting PM, none of them have had any choice but to be open up to public about it.

It is Modi, who is intending to escalate and continue to do so.

Regarding economy hit, nothing has happened yet and nothing will.

No head of government. In their sane mind would have done what trudeau did. It was just a panic reaction to his domestic political turmoil.
Just like Bill Clinton bombed bhagdad during his impeachment, Bush invading Iraq.
It's called "rally behind the leader effect" a a perceived foreign enemy helps bump the popularity of local leader. All the demagogues around the world do it modi , trump, erdogan, Imran, put in.

But never seen someone as inept as trudeau.

 

[Saanji]

I thought the comment was self-explanatory but I guess some of y'all want to keep playing, "what does that mean"

Canada did what they had to, the follow the procedure and did not want to escalate it. Any PM of Canada would have had to, as any sitting PM, none of them have had any choice but to be open up to public about it.

It is Modi, who is intending to escalate and continue to do so.

Regarding economy hit, nothing has happened yet and nothing will.

Adding to the economic impact, as you clearly have no idea about indo Canadian trade and don't bother to read. You won't get it even if facts stare directly at your face. Links can be shared if you have actually an open mind to truth.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Bump..

Any update yet or are we still dealing with, 'may have' 'could have' 'might have' evidences?

 

[Technics 1210]

As expected the UK trade deal with India is in limbo. Thankfully there are some in the UK government that do not negotiate with terrorists.

 

[Romali_rotti]

As expected the UK trade deal with India is in limbo. Thankfully there are some in the UK government that do not negotiate with terrorists.

Finally we agree, UK government do not negotiate with terrorists thats why they are sending military aid to Israel .

Read below.

UK to send navy ships and spy planes to support Israel​

Britain will send surveillance aircraft, two Royal Navy support ships and about 100 Royal Marines to the eastern Mediterranean from Friday to support Israel and help prevent any sudden escalation of fighting in the Middle East.

Patrol flights of Poseidon P-8 aircraft and other planes will begin on Friday, Downing St announced, tasked partly with monitoring any efforts to transfer of weapons from countries such as Iran or Russia to Hezbollah in Lebanon.


Existing UK military units and fighter aircraft, based at RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus, are also on alert as Israel gears up for an expected ground assault on Gaza after last Saturday’s surprise attack by Hamas, which has left more than 1,300 Israeli civilians dead. The death toll in Gaza has risen above 1,400.


Concern remains high that Hezbollah, based in Lebanon, may seek to open a second front from the north with the backing of its ally, Iran. Earlier on Thursday, Syria said that its airports in Damascus and Aleppo were bombed by the Israeli air force, most likely in an effort to disrupt any supplies of weaponry bound for the group.

Rishi Sunak, the prime minister, said the UK’s intention was to “support efforts to ensure regional stability and prevent further escalation”, and to “ensure humanitarian aid reaches the thousands of innocent victims of this barbaric attack from Hamas terrorists”.

Earlier this week, a US aircraft carrier, the Gerald R Ford, arrived in the eastern Mediterranean, with a cruiser and four destroyers in support, aimed also at deterring any actor from “seeking to escalate the situation or widen this war”.

The UK’s naval task group is significantly smaller, consisting of support ships. It is led by the RFA Lyme Bay, a logistics support vessel, and RFA Argus, the Royal Navy’s emergency medical ship, which has a capacity of 100 beds.

The Ministry of Defence said this was “a contingency measure” to support humanitarian efforts, although it was not immediately spelled out who they would be assisting. Gaza is subject to an Israeli blockade.

Britain already has two warships in the region, HMS Duncan, tasked to Nato, in the eastern Mediterranean, and HMS Lancaster, part of the UK’s permanent naval presence in the Persian Gulf.

Downing St also said that Sunak had spoken to Egypt’s president, Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, earlier on Thursday as part of an effort, No 10 said, to “understand the wider regional picture and underscore the importance of supporting civilians to leave Gaza”.

UK to send navy ships and spy planes to support Israel

British PM says aim is to support efforts to ensure regional stability and prevent further escalation’

www.theguardian.com

 

[daytrader]

Justin Trudeau's "Happy Navratri" Message Amid Diplomatic Row With India
Tensions between the two countries escalated after Justin Trudeau publicly levelled suspicions last month that Indian agents were involved in the murder of Khalistani terrorist Hardeep Singh Nijjar

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has wished "happy Navratri" to the Hindu community in his country amid a diplomatic row with India.

"Happy Navratri! I'm sending my warmest wishes to members of the Hindu community and all those who are celebrating this festival," he posted on X, formerly Twitter.

Navaratri is a biannual Hindu festival observed in honour of the goddess Durga. It spans over nine nights, first in the month of Chaitra (March/April), and again in the month of Ashvin (September-October).

Tensions between the two countries escalated after Mr Trudeau publicly levelled suspicions last month that Indian agents were involved in the murder of Khalistani terrorist Hardeep Singh Nijjar, who was shot dead by unidentified gunmen on June 18 in a Vancouver suburb. India dismissed the allegation as absurd and both countries expelled a diplomat.

India also suspended new visas for Canadians and asked Ottawa to reduce its diplomatic presence in India.

Mr Trudeau later said that Canada was not looking to escalate the dispute.

"We're taking this extremely seriously, but we're going to continue to engage responsibly and constructively within with the government of India," he said.

NDTV

 

[CricketCartoons]

If at all India ordered the assassination, it makes Canada look even worse and makes India look strong.

 

[Devadwal]

Oh i forget about this topic after world cup started .has Canada Gave any proof so far ?

 

[happydavy]

As expected the UK trade deal with India is in limbo. Thankfully there are some in the UK government that do not negotiate with terrorists.

India and the UK are expected to sign a free trade agreement (FTA) at the end of this month, marking India's first comprehensive deal with an industrialized nation. The agreement aims to boost bilateral trade beyond the current $20 billion. India has invited UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak to visit India on October 28 to finalize the pact. The agreement will consist of 26 chapters, with discussions still ongoing on issues such as rules of origin and intellectual property rights.

 

[rpant_gabba]

Any updates from the Canada? one would think they will have all this wrapped up by now.

 

[Saanji]

Any updates from the Canada? one would think they will have all this wrapped up by now.

let it die. No one cares. The only thing that has happened is people in their echo chambers heard more echoes of their own voices.
On ground, going to Canada suddenly became more expensive for punjabis .
Punajbi wedding season will be a dull affair with low number of Canadian dollars flowing in, this winter.

Khalistan was hardly an issue in Punjab for our normal lives.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Canada govt is just breathing a sigh of relief the Israeli Hamas conflict has taken over world news to hide them from the embarrassments

 

[rpant_gabba]

the hypocrisy of canadians.

@2:27 Canadian CBC news presenter says:

"Now let's be very careful with this question of BLAME. Because the truth is it's impossible at this point for any news organization to independently verify any claim on either side."

when it comes to Nijjar's death, then accusation can be reported as fact, without any corroboration whatsoever!
But that's just because it's worthless backward India being accused.

When it comes to important countries like Israel, maximum delicacy must be shown in dealing with accusations and controversies.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Canada withdraws 41 diplomats from India

Forty-one Canadian diplomats have recently left India amid a rift over the murder of a Sikh leader on Canadian soil.

India asked Canada two weeks ago to withdraw dozens of its diplomatic staff and threatened to remove their immunity if they remained.

Relations have been tense after Canada said India may have been behind the 18 June killing of Hardeep Singh Nijjar.

India has denied the allegations, calling them "absurd".

On Thursday, Canada's foreign minister, Melanie Joly, confirmed that many Canadian diplomats in India have now left the country.

She said India had said that immunity for "all but 21 diplomats" will be "unilaterally removed" by 20 October.

Ms Joly added that the remaining 21 diplomats are still in India, but the withdrawal means Canada will have to limit its services in the country due to a shortage of staff.

Specifically, the move will put a pause on in-person operations in Bangalore, Mumbai, and Chandigarh, Ms Joly said.

She added services will still be available out of the High Commission of Canada in Delhi.

Canada had many more diplomats in Delhi than India has in Ottawa, and since the row between the two countries erupted, India asked Canada for parity in its diplomatic missions.

India saying it would remove diplomatic immunity for Canadian envoys is a "violation of international law", Ms Joly during a news conference in Ottawa.

She said Ottawa will not be reciprocate.

Officials said they still welcome Indian nationals who want to visit or move to Canada.

Canada withdraws 41 diplomats from India

It is the latest in a row between the two nations over the murder of a Sikh separatist leader on Canadian soil.

www.bbc.com

 

[Champ_Pal]

Trudeau must say that he does not have any evidence and he needs to apologize and move on.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Any updates from the Canada? one would think they will have all this wrapped up by now.

Why? Canada is a backwater western nation, but it's still a western nation. I said pretty early in this affair that this was never going to be a quick resolution, but a marker for the Five Eyes nations who monitor world affairs.

A nation like Bharat which is eyeing superpower status would be seen as a threat if they actually were approaching superpower status. At the moment they are just seen as a giant market to pump hard for profits.

 

[daytrader]

Canada Withdraws 41 Diplomats From India Amid Huge Diplomatic Row
Relations between India and Canada have plunged since Ottawa publicly linked Indian intelligence to the killing of a Khalistani terrorist Hardeep Singh Nijjar, a Canadian citizen.
Montreal:
Canada said Thursday it had withdrawn 41 diplomats from India -- fallout from a bitter row over the killing of a Khalistani terrorist on Canadian soil.

India planned to "unethically" revoke diplomatic immunity for all but 21 of Canada's diplomats and their families by Friday, forcing Ottawa to pull out the others, Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Joly said.

"We have facilitated their safe departure from India," Ms Joly added. "This means that our diplomats and their families have now left."

Relations between India and Canada have plunged since Prime Minister Justin Trudeau last month publicly linked Indian intelligence to the killing of Khalistani terrorist Hardeep Singh Nijjar, which India has denied.

Nijjar, who advocated for a separate Sikh state carved out of India, was wanted by Indian authorities for alleged terrorism and conspiracy to commit murder.

"Revoking the diplomatic immunity of 41 diplomats is not only unprecedented, but also contrary to international law," Ms Joly said Wednesday, but said Canada did not plan to retaliate in kind, so as to not "aggravate the situation."

"Canada will continue to defend international law, which applies to all nations and will continue to engage with India," she said.

"Now more than ever we need diplomats on the ground and we need to talk to one another," Joly added.

Canada Withdraws 41 Diplomats From India Amid Huge Diplomatic Row

Canada announced Thursday it had been forced to repatriate 41 of its 62 diplomats based in India after New Delhi threatened to revoke their diplomatic immunity, as tensions rise between the two countries.

www.ndtv.com

 

[cricketjoshila]

Canada tried to brazen it out. They thought India wouldn't dare to remove 20 diplomats.

 

[Technics 1210]

The head of Australia’s national intelligence agency has said that the Canadian government’s claims of possessing evidence of India’s involvement in the killing of a Sikh separatist leader near Vancouver this past June are credible.

The director of the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO), Mike Burgess, told ABC News that he had “no reason to dispute what the Canadian government has said in this matter.”

-----

Ha ha ha!

Now Australia, a member of the 5 Eyes has sided with Canada and confirms the government of India were behind the attack.

It is clear as daylight that Hindutva terror has now reached Western shores.

 

[daytrader]

Canada Urges Citizens To Be Cautious, "Keep Low Profile" In These Indian Cities
"Exercise a high degree of caution in and around Bengaluru, Chandigarh, and Mumbai," Canada's travel advisory said.
New Delhi: Canada updated the travel advisory for its citizens in India asking them to "exercise a high degree of caution" just hours after the country withdrew 41 diplomats and closed most of its embassies and consulates in India. The move comes amid the bitter row between the two countries over the killing of a Khalistani terrorist on Canadian soil.
"Exercise a high degree of caution in India due to the threat of terrorist attacks throughout the country," the advisory issued by Canada read.

"In the context of recent developments in Canada and India, there are calls for protests and some negative sentiment towards Canada in traditional media and on social media. Demonstrations, including anti-Canada protests, could occur and Canadians may be subjected to intimidation or harassment. In Delhi and the National Capital Region, you should keep a low profile with strangers, and not share your personal information with them," the advisory added.

Canada Urges Citizens To Be Cautious, "Keep Low Profile" In These Indian Cities

Canada updated the travel advisory for its citizens in India asking them to "exercise a high degree of caution" just hours after the country withdrew 41 diplomats and closed most of its embassies and consulates in India.

www.ndtv.com

 

[FearlessRoar]

India is not planning to impose any measures to curb imports or investments from Canada, despite simmering diplomatic tensions between the two countries, two senior government sources in New Delhi said.

Ties between New Delhi and Ottawa deteriorated sharply after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said in September his intelligence agencies were pursuing credible allegations tying Indian agents to the shooting of a Sikh separatist leader in Canada.

Source: Reuters

 

[rpant_gabba]

 

[Saanji]

Expect some Canadian universities to shut shop and lowering of rent in canada.

 

[Romali_rotti]

So has Canada provided any proof yet? Or are we still dealing with the, they have 'credible' evidence that Indians 'could have' 'may have' been part of the empty lander killing..



How many years will I have to wait for this evidence ?

 

[rpant_gabba]

wonder she is doing tap dance over a simple question?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1715225278711292238

 

[Saanji]

wonder she is doing tap dance over a simple question?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1715225278711292238

RAW has really upgraded it seems. Still no evidence ?? Canada should talk to ISI, they find evidence against india every next day.

 

[Romali_rotti]

wonder she is doing tap dance over a simple question?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1715225278711292238

All for Empty land, what a humiliation...