The point is there is evidence, if we follow your (or in general, Indian logic, from the past). They have a treaty obligation to not release it. Beating the 'no evidence' drum will not change that.
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If we go back even Harper had multiple Canadians of Indian descent (including Sikhs) in his cabinet. Trudeau took it to the next level across the board let alone only Punjabis. If you look at his original cabinet (it's been shuffled now) it was heavy on minorities and women.
I think his intention was more to look inclusive rather than to purposely play up specific communities. It was also a pre-emptive move to further reduce any potential for Jagmeet to win over the community. Of course, little did Trudeau know that Jagmeet isn't good enough to influence anyone.
Yeah, this is just a guess from my end.
The reason I'm assuming Canada was back-channeling pressure on its allies was due to them doing the same with India before going public. Of course, India denies everything (rightly so) but this all depends on the evidence Canada has. If it believes the evidence is strong enough, I guess they would feel confident in applying pressure publicly.
Even I agree it's a useless strategy from Canada if true.
It's possible.
But Trudeau's government has also been the most receptive to India when it comes to immigration. Too much so if you ask the locals. Plus, Trudeau has a minority government and is already on flimsy ground when it comes to the next elections. Picking a fight like this without reason isn't worth it politically.
We will see how this plays out.
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Disagree. It has been described from the horse's mouth, not as evidence.
It is described as "potential" "alleged" "credible" link by Canada and as intelligence by US.
US also had intelligence on WMD in Iraq
Not sure what your definition of evidence is. If the evidence is not released, Its up to Canada to take the next step.
World is waiting and watching.
Evidence only needs to be released if they are asking a neutral third party to be an arbitrator. Of course giving the evidence to India is idiotic, since India is the claimed perpetrator here and it will reveal their intelligence gathering tactics. It's like a perpetrator asking evidence for their wrongdoing. They will never admit to it no matter what. US was also asking India to assist in the investigation.
As for your last sentence of "world is doing xyz", I am sorry but I have to discard that. Indians tend to overuse those kinds of phrases when only Indians are doing xyz, they pretend the whole world is with them.
As for US having intelligence on WMD, weren't you guys on record that every time some random US government official accused Pakistan of supporting Taliban, that the accusations from the west carry more weight and must be believed because it's coming from the US, that US is somehow inherently more reliable and trustworthy? You guys used that argument countless times.
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Yup. US was able to take action with information available to them.
ended badly in Iraq. Was able to get Pakistan to act
Its Canada's turn. lets see what they can do.
How did they get Pakistan to act? But my point is Indians were parroting those same accusations that they are now denying.
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Ok.. Then Canada should stop begging for cooperation.
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And India has no obligation to co-operate without evidence.
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Do you want me list the number of incidences where Pakistan handed over it citizens to US? Drone attacks etc etc?
Pakistan's Zardari even took credit for locating OBL
What the Indians were saying was that it was within NZ right to act. And the same thing is being said now. It is within Canada's right to act.
Not sure this is so confusing for you.
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So no evidence yet other than whispers like 'alleged' links etc.
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Intelligence gained by the “Five Eyes” network led to Canada’s public accusation that the Indian government may have played a role in the assassination of a Sikh separatist activist on Canadian soil, the US Ambassador to Canada said Sunday.
I’m “confirming that there was shared intelligence among Five Eyes partners that helped lead Canada to making the statements that the prime minister made,” US Ambassador to Canada, David Cohen, told CTV’s Question Period with Vassy Kapelos in a Sunday interview.
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Are people expecting the 5 Eyes to release classified intelligence to the public and risk their sources? Of course that will not happen. Canada and the US would not have put out these statements if they did not know for sure as the US has been looking to improve relationship with India.
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I like to think outside the square and say things ppl don't usually think of, so here:
What if all this is a setup, what if PM Modi and Trudeau are working together on this ?
Elections are coming for 2024 and you don't hear much noise from the opposition in India now as all the limelight is on Canada/Khalistan, matter of fact I get the feeling the Indian Congress has supported BJP on this Empty Lander issue in certain areas...
If this is a strategic chess move to mute the Indian opposition by letting the Empty lander assassination take limelight for a good period till the 2024 election while the opposition has no uproars or issue to bring up then PM Modi's election victory is even easier than what it is now....
Not saying what I am saying is true but just another angle to look from.
What if all this is a setup, what if PM Modi and Trudeau are working together on this ?
Elections are coming for 2024 and you don't hear much noise from the opposition in India now as all the limelight is on Canada/Khalistan, matter of fact I get the feeling the Indian Congress has supported BJP on this Empty Lander issue in certain areas...
If this is a strategic chess move to mute the Indian opposition by letting the Empty lander assassination take limelight for a good period till the 2024 election while the opposition has no uproars or issue to bring up then PM Modi's election victory is even easier than what it is now....
Not saying what I am saying is true but just another angle to look from.
But none of this is new or surprising.
Indian government will never admit it. Half the Indian public will play stupid in-front of everyone but know that India was involved, and other half will have their heads buried in the sand that India is always a victim.
Indian government will never admit it. Half the Indian public will play stupid in-front of everyone but know that India was involved, and other half will have their heads buried in the sand that India is always a victim.
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Canada-based Khalistani terrorist Arshdeep ***** has links with Pakistan-based terror outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba and wanted to target Hindu leaders in Punjab, Delhi Police have found.
This assumes significance against the backdrop of the massive diplomatic row between India and Canada. Ties between New Delhi and Ottawa have strained after Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau alleged that Indian agents were behind the murder of Khalistani terrorist Hardeep Singh Nijjar in June this year.
India responded strongly, calling the allegations "absurd" and "motivated". What followed was a series of ***-for-tat moves and advisories, as India and Canada expelled envoys and warned their citizens against visits.
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Canada-based Khalistani terrorist Arshdeep ***** has links with Pakistan-based terror outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba and wanted to target Hindu leaders in Punjab, Delhi Police have found.
This assumes significance against the backdrop of the massive diplomatic row between India and Canada. Ties between New Delhi and Ottawa have strained after Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau alleged that Indian agents were behind the murder of Khalistani terrorist Hardeep Singh Nijjar in June this year.
India responded strongly, calling the allegations "absurd" and "motivated". What followed was a series of ***-for-tat moves and advisories, as India and Canada expelled envoys and warned their citizens against visits.
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Lol at Delhi Police findings of Pakistan connection. Here comes another Bollywood flick, atleast they found a new villain other than usual evil Pakistani across the border.
The whole episode is extremely humiliating for India as a progressive nation like Canada has nationally called out India for it's terrorism in their soil. Canada wouldn't risk making such comment about another country without doing due deligence as Canada doesn't even have political vendetta, rather let's thousands of Indians in daily and giving them space to live a much better life than in a third world poverty filled country. Good to see others calling out as this been a usual for India causing terrorism in Pakistan. Only if Canada could learn from Pakistan and repeat a Abhinandan style episode, they were showed their place by getting humiliated at a global level (commander bloodied face and destroyed jet with Indian flag plastered all over international news outlet), been 5 years and no illegal venture to cause terrorism so a good lesson taught. But being called out internationally by a PM of a big first world country is equally extremely humiliating so good on Canada for taking the step.
The whole episode is extremely humiliating for India as a progressive nation like Canada has nationally called out India for it's terrorism in their soil. Canada wouldn't risk making such comment about another country without doing due deligence as Canada doesn't even have political vendetta, rather let's thousands of Indians in daily and giving them space to live a much better life than in a third world poverty filled country. Good to see others calling out as this been a usual for India causing terrorism in Pakistan. Only if Canada could learn from Pakistan and repeat a Abhinandan style episode, they were showed their place by getting humiliated at a global level (commander bloodied face and destroyed jet with Indian flag plastered all over international news outlet), been 5 years and no illegal venture to cause terrorism so a good lesson taught. But being called out internationally by a PM of a big first world country is equally extremely humiliating so good on Canada for taking the step.
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Why the Modi regime provided second highest security cover to a recently retired chief of India's external intelligence agency just a few days before Trudeau publicly accused Indian agency's involvement in the killing of Sikh separatist leader in Canada?
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If Pakistan is involved, I will have to deem ISI as numero uno spy agency. Very slickly done 
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I love it! Modi and his minions now trying to make the Pakistan connection, this is brilliant because this time the West will know that India is lying!
Exposed by the day!
Open mouth - insert foot.
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Exposed by the day!
Open mouth - insert foot.
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So this chap was training in Pakistan but India decided to wait until he was back in Canada for assasination. Does this mean India is scared of Pakistan but not of Canada.
The Yanks are now backing Canada.
www.theguardian.com
It was only weeks ago Modi was in USA, smiling like a chesire cat thinking India is highly respected by USA. This happens when you see a race/culture superiour to yours.
So this chap was training in Pakistan but India decided to wait until he was back in Canada for assasination. Does this mean India is scared of Pakistan but not of Canada.
The Yanks are now backing Canada.
India-Canada row: Blinken calls on Delhi to cooperate in push for ‘accountability’ over killing
Secretary of state says US takes ‘very, very seriously’ incidents of transnational repression amid dispute over killing of Sikh separatist in British Columbia
It was only weeks ago Modi was in USA, smiling like a chesire cat thinking India is highly respected by USA. This happens when you see a race/culture superiour to yours.
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Punjab Police raids 48 places linked to Khalistani terrorist Lakhbir Singh Landa
In a major crackdown against Khalistani terrorists on Monday, Punjab Police conducted search operations to at places linked to Lakhbir Singh Landa and his associates.
48 places raided by India.
Reward for a chap called Lakhbir Singh Landa.
India instead of defusing the situation is only escalating it.
The divide of Sikhs and Hindus is increasing, the Khalistan movement is only growing.
Hindutva extremists started off against Muslims, then Christians and now Sikhs too.
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If it's proven that Indian government did it. The support for the government will be massive in India.
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Indians will be happy their country is committing acts of state terrorism and murder?
How can you then be upset if a foreign state does the same within India?
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Punjab Police raids 48 places linked to Khalistani terrorist Lakhbir Singh Landa
In a major crackdown against Khalistani terrorists on Monday, Punjab Police conducted search operations to at places linked to Lakhbir Singh Landa and his associates.www.indiatoday.in
48 places raided by India.
Reward for a chap called Lakhbir Singh Landa.
India instead of defusing the situation is only escalating it.
The divide of Sikhs and Hindus is increasing, the Khalistan movement is only growing.
Hindutva extremists started off against Muslims, then Christians and now Sikhs too.
India needs permission from anyone to conduct raids inside Indian territory?
Lol. Khalistan movement is dead in India. That's why the terrorists are in Canada.
Killing a terrorist who has killed many innocent civilians is not act of terrorism itself. When America killed Laden or India killed Burhan Wani, no one called those as acts of terrorism.
No terrorists resides in India, so why would any foreign state do same in India?
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Then why are they raiding nearly 50 sites? Why is India assassinating people abroad? It doesnt seem dead by Indias actions?
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Killing a terrorist who was involved in killings of Indians is not murder.
If anyone thinks he can run away from India using fake documents and then use political links to get passport of another country and then plan and fund killings in India, he needs to think again.
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Its illegal under Int law. America is a war criminal, the world knows it. Plenty have called them out inc leaders of nations over the years.
Acc to Canada no terrorist resides there. Its an opinion and I have yet to read when this man was convicted of being a terrorist or what he has done.
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Why is India raiding 50 places in India is no one's concern.
You have proof of assassination?
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You are happy to cite the UN when it comes to groups in Pakistan but are ignorant of the Int law they have set.
The world isnt going to accept India's definition esp from a Hindutva government lol.
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Why doesnt India target the terrorists it claims are in Pak then, as USA did?
I have no concerns of India, its an update on the news on the relevant thread. You're in the wrong place if you think you can dictate what is posted lol.
He has planned and executed multiple terror attacks in state of Punjab. So much so that Canadian authorities rejected his visa twice in mid 2000s due to his connection with banned Khalistani organizations. Then prime minister Manmohan Singh (sikh himself) asked Canada to act on Nijjar in 2014.
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Please post a link to his conviction(s).
Modi was also banned from various nations before he became PM.
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Canadian Sikhs stage protests against Indian government over murder
TORONTO/OTTAWA, Sept 25 (Reuters) - Canadian Sikhs staged small protests outside India's diplomatic missions on Monday, a week after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said there may be a link between New Delhi and the murder of a Sikh separatist advocate in British Columbia.
Trudeau a week ago stood in parliament to say that domestic intelligence agencies were actively pursuing credible allegations tying New Delhi's agents to the shooting of Canadian citizen Hardeep Singh Nijjar, 45, in June.
About 100 protesters in Toronto burned an Indian flag and struck a cardboard cut-out of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi with a shoe. About 200 protesters also gathered outside the Vancouver consulate.
In Ottawa, fewer than 100 people gathered in front of the Indian High Commissioner's office (embassy) in the capital. They waved yellow flags marked with the world "Khalistan", a reference to their support for making India's Punjab region an independent state for Sikhs, a cause Nijjar campaigned for.
"We are really thankful to Justin Trudeau... We want no stone left unturned to get to the bottom of this cowardly act," protester Reshma Singh Bolinas said in Ottawa. Canada should put pressure on India to "stop the killing of innocent people in future."
Canada is home to about 770,000 Sikhs - the highest population of Sikhs outside their home state of Punjab - and in recent years there have been many demonstrations that have irked India.
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TORONTO/OTTAWA, Sept 25 (Reuters) - Canadian Sikhs staged small protests outside India's diplomatic missions on Monday, a week after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said there may be a link between New Delhi and the murder of a Sikh separatist advocate in British Columbia.
Trudeau a week ago stood in parliament to say that domestic intelligence agencies were actively pursuing credible allegations tying New Delhi's agents to the shooting of Canadian citizen Hardeep Singh Nijjar, 45, in June.
About 100 protesters in Toronto burned an Indian flag and struck a cardboard cut-out of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi with a shoe. About 200 protesters also gathered outside the Vancouver consulate.
In Ottawa, fewer than 100 people gathered in front of the Indian High Commissioner's office (embassy) in the capital. They waved yellow flags marked with the world "Khalistan", a reference to their support for making India's Punjab region an independent state for Sikhs, a cause Nijjar campaigned for.
"We are really thankful to Justin Trudeau... We want no stone left unturned to get to the bottom of this cowardly act," protester Reshma Singh Bolinas said in Ottawa. Canada should put pressure on India to "stop the killing of innocent people in future."
Canada is home to about 770,000 Sikhs - the highest population of Sikhs outside their home state of Punjab - and in recent years there have been many demonstrations that have irked India.
Canadian Sikhs stage protests against Indian government over murder
Canadian Sikhs staged small protests outside India's diplomatic missions on Monday.
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It is shocking to see Indians think that everyone in the world is naive enough to fall for the bile pushed by RSS social media silos.
The evidence of so called terrorists held on a PDF file under the 'default' folder hierarchy.
Pull the other one.
The evidence of so called terrorists held on a PDF file under the 'default' folder hierarchy.
Pull the other one.
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No terrorist resides there eh?
Attacking the Indian High Commission, naming and threatening Indian diplomats, beating up innocent Indians on the streets etc are acts of love and brotherhood , then?
Amusing how you lot change the goalposts to push your anti-India narrative.
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It is shocking to see Indians think that everyone in the world is naive enough to fall for the bile pushed by RSS social media silos.
The evidence of so called terrorists held on a PDF file under the 'default' folder hierarchy.
Pull the other one.
yes, the same PDF evidence in the default folder that got Pakistan in the FATF grey list.
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Don't change the subject.yes, the same PDF evidence in the default folder that got Pakistan in the FATF grey list.
The PDF was created in Sept 2023.
Thank god for meta data.
So some Hindus are beaten up in Canada, while Muslims are lynched for transporting cows in India, which one is worse?
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There is no anti-India narrative. It is hindutva which dictates a hostile and permanent enmity with Pakistan, this is reflected in your state politics which won't even contemplate sporting or artistic ties with Pakistan.
You know it, we know it and so does the rest of the world. I can show you posts from your own members who crow about the Indian desire to keep Pakistan as weak as possible. The only policy of hatred stems from the hindutva brigade, many of whom are active on here.
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Sikh activist calls for support in UK as tensions rise amid India-Canada row.
Amid a diplomatic row between Canada and India over the killing of a Canadian Sikh in British Columbia, a Scottish Sikh councillor has called for support as he revealed the concerns of activists in the UK.
Gurpreet Johal, a lawyer and councillor in West Durbartonshire, said his friend Avtar Singh Khanda, a Sikh activist, died in June after becoming the target of a media campaign against him in India.
Mr Johal, whose brother has allegedly been tortured while arbitrarily detained in India, said he was left “heartbroken” at the sudden death of Mr Khanda in Birmingham.
Mr Khanda, 35, was known for his work campaigning for a breakaway Sikh homeland and his family said he died of acute myeloid leukaemia.
However, since his sudden death, rumours of foul play have arisen. His mother, Charanjeet Kaur, said: “My son was killed by poisoning. I mean, who develops and succumbs to cancer within just four days? Cancer doesn’t manifest within such a short span.”
The last time Mr Johal saw him in person was on 4 June in London. On 11 June, Mr Khanda was taken to hospital in Birmingham and he died early in the morning on 15 June.
Mr Johal said: “That’s a very short space of time for somebody who was healthy. To very quickly find out that he was unwell and then that he passed away that quickly was heartbreaking and very suspicious,” Mr Johal said, before adding: “Personally I do feel there is some malicious activity taking place.”
However, Sikhs in the UK say they are increasingly coming under pressure as India calls on the UK to do more to stamp out “extremism” in the community.
It comes after the Canadian Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, a week ago said there were “serious” allegations that may link Indian government agents to the killing of a Sikh in British Columbia. India’s foreign ministry dismissed the allegation as “absurd and motivated”.
The UK said it was in “close touch with Canadian partners” regarding the claims, according to a spokesman for the Prime Minister, Rishi Sunak, but that it would not have an impact on trade talks with India.
Amid a diplomatic row between Canada and India over the killing of a Canadian Sikh in British Columbia, a Scottish Sikh councillor has called for support as he revealed the concerns of activists in the UK.
Gurpreet Johal, a lawyer and councillor in West Durbartonshire, said his friend Avtar Singh Khanda, a Sikh activist, died in June after becoming the target of a media campaign against him in India.
Mr Johal, whose brother has allegedly been tortured while arbitrarily detained in India, said he was left “heartbroken” at the sudden death of Mr Khanda in Birmingham.
Mr Khanda, 35, was known for his work campaigning for a breakaway Sikh homeland and his family said he died of acute myeloid leukaemia.
However, since his sudden death, rumours of foul play have arisen. His mother, Charanjeet Kaur, said: “My son was killed by poisoning. I mean, who develops and succumbs to cancer within just four days? Cancer doesn’t manifest within such a short span.”
The last time Mr Johal saw him in person was on 4 June in London. On 11 June, Mr Khanda was taken to hospital in Birmingham and he died early in the morning on 15 June.
Mr Johal said: “That’s a very short space of time for somebody who was healthy. To very quickly find out that he was unwell and then that he passed away that quickly was heartbreaking and very suspicious,” Mr Johal said, before adding: “Personally I do feel there is some malicious activity taking place.”
However, Sikhs in the UK say they are increasingly coming under pressure as India calls on the UK to do more to stamp out “extremism” in the community.
It comes after the Canadian Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, a week ago said there were “serious” allegations that may link Indian government agents to the killing of a Sikh in British Columbia. India’s foreign ministry dismissed the allegation as “absurd and motivated”.
The UK said it was in “close touch with Canadian partners” regarding the claims, according to a spokesman for the Prime Minister, Rishi Sunak, but that it would not have an impact on trade talks with India.
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Maybe the Sikhs in the UK should have a stronger political presence in the country to be able to convince the UK government about such issues like the Canadian Sikhs did. They seem to be much strongly placed in Canada.
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(Reuters) -India's foreign minister, Subrahmanyam Jaishankar, said on Tuesday that India has told Canada it was open to looking into any "specific" or "relevant" information it provides on the killing of Sikh separatist Hardeep Singh Nijjar.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said last week that Ottawa had credible intelligence linking Indian agents to the murder, prompting an angry initial reaction from New Delhi, which denies the allegation.
Asked about the allegations at a Council on Foreign Relations event in New York, Jaishankar detailed India's response in diplomatic engagements.
"One, we told the Canadians that this is not the government of India's policy," he said. "Two, we told the Canadians saying that look, if you have something specific, if you have something relevant, you know, let us know - we are open to looking at it."
India last week suspended new visas for Canadians and asked Ottawa to reduce its diplomatic presence in the country, citing what it called a deteriorating security environment.
India had been "badgering the Canadians" about its claims that organized criminals are based there, a reference to separatists like Nijjar, he said, adding that India had made "a large number of extradition requests."
"The picture is not complete without the context," he added. "You also have to appreciate that in the last few years, Canada actually has seen a lot of organized crime, you know, relating to, you know, the secessionist forces, organized-crime, violence, extremism, they're all very, very deeply mixed up."
Allies of Canada, including the United States, have cautiously expressed concern over the claims and urged India to cooperate with Canada's investigation.
The U.S. ambassador to Canada told Canadian television that some information on the case had been gathered by the Five Eyes intelligence alliance, which includes the U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said last week that Ottawa had credible intelligence linking Indian agents to the murder, prompting an angry initial reaction from New Delhi, which denies the allegation.
Asked about the allegations at a Council on Foreign Relations event in New York, Jaishankar detailed India's response in diplomatic engagements.
"One, we told the Canadians that this is not the government of India's policy," he said. "Two, we told the Canadians saying that look, if you have something specific, if you have something relevant, you know, let us know - we are open to looking at it."
India last week suspended new visas for Canadians and asked Ottawa to reduce its diplomatic presence in the country, citing what it called a deteriorating security environment.
India had been "badgering the Canadians" about its claims that organized criminals are based there, a reference to separatists like Nijjar, he said, adding that India had made "a large number of extradition requests."
"The picture is not complete without the context," he added. "You also have to appreciate that in the last few years, Canada actually has seen a lot of organized crime, you know, relating to, you know, the secessionist forces, organized-crime, violence, extremism, they're all very, very deeply mixed up."
Allies of Canada, including the United States, have cautiously expressed concern over the claims and urged India to cooperate with Canada's investigation.
The U.S. ambassador to Canada told Canadian television that some information on the case had been gathered by the Five Eyes intelligence alliance, which includes the U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK.
Khalistani designated terrorist Gurpatwant Singh Pannu issues fresh threat from Canada against ICC Cricket World Cup on 5th Oct at Narendra Modi Stadium, Gujarat, says 5th Oct won’t be World Cricket Cup, it will be beginning of World Terror Cup.
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There we have it. India now open to talks with Canada to look into specifics and relevant information.
This is the same India that denied the clear cut evidence outright.
Boy the 5 Eyes must have sent the evidence to India!
Talk about a U-Turn!
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So there you have it, Indians still have not been given any credible evidence yet but Indians are open to look into it, if Canada can provide it..
Sounds fair to me..
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Amit puts' it together brilliantly once again..
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19:31 onwards OMG lol That is Raul Puppu level intellect right there
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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau triggered a diplomatic crisis with India last week when he claimed the June murder of a Sikh activist in Canada was likely ordered by New Delhi and carried out by India's foreign intelligence service. If true, it would be the first time that Indian intelligence has been directly linked to a targeted assassination.
A week after Canadian Prime Minister's bombshell allegations linking India to the June killing of a Canadian Sikh activist, the diplomatic crisis shows no signs of petering out.
Sikh separatist leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar was shot and killed June 18 by two masked men outside a Gurdwara, a Sikh place of worship, in British Columbia in what has been described as a coordinated attack.
In his parliamentary address last week, Trudeau said that Canadian security services were investigating credible allegations of a potential link between Indian government agents and the death of Nijjar, a Canadian citizen, prompting indignation in India.
Hundreds of Sikh protesters rallied Monday outside Indian diplomatic missions in Canada to denounce Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government. The FBI has warned prominent Sikhs in the United States that they, too, may be in danger.
The Modi administration, which labelled Nijjar a terrorist in 2020, has rejected Canada’s allegations as absurd.
The scandal surrounding the assassination has also turned the spotlight on India’s external intelligence agency, the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), a relatively discreet spy agency that has, in the past, avoided international media attention.
Source: France24
A week after Canadian Prime Minister's bombshell allegations linking India to the June killing of a Canadian Sikh activist, the diplomatic crisis shows no signs of petering out.
Sikh separatist leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar was shot and killed June 18 by two masked men outside a Gurdwara, a Sikh place of worship, in British Columbia in what has been described as a coordinated attack.
In his parliamentary address last week, Trudeau said that Canadian security services were investigating credible allegations of a potential link between Indian government agents and the death of Nijjar, a Canadian citizen, prompting indignation in India.
Hundreds of Sikh protesters rallied Monday outside Indian diplomatic missions in Canada to denounce Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government. The FBI has warned prominent Sikhs in the United States that they, too, may be in danger.
The Modi administration, which labelled Nijjar a terrorist in 2020, has rejected Canada’s allegations as absurd.
The scandal surrounding the assassination has also turned the spotlight on India’s external intelligence agency, the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), a relatively discreet spy agency that has, in the past, avoided international media attention.
Source: France24
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But you killed a person in Canada and that ain't going away. Its called terrorism and the myth that you guys are victims has been smashed forever.
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Don't get carried away. You are the need of the hour. You have an economy that is minute compared to China, per capita smaller than Albania and over 500mn in poverty.
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'Putting up posters that call for assassination of Indian diplomats is not necessarily a crime in Canada,' says Former Director, Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Ward Elcock.
Interesting. Calls for assasination of foreign diplomats is apparently not a crime Canada according to Candian intelligence.
Interesting. Calls for assasination of foreign diplomats is apparently not a crime Canada according to Candian intelligence.
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He probaby misspoke here. Incitement to violence is not an offence in Canada ? Maybe Canadian posters here can chime in.
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So you are carrying the water for the former head of intelligence who was also part of the 5 eyes?
He had plenty of opportunity to clarify and he did not.
Its plain language.
So what do the Canadians have wrt Nijjar? Actionable evidence or vague intercepts?
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Indian government now targeting Sikhs in USA!
Oh deary deary me, this is utter humiliation for India!
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The FBI warned at least three prominent figures in the US Sikh community that their lives may be in danger, The Guardian reported on Tuesday.
One of the activists claimed the authorities advised him against traveling due to a threat presumably coming from the Indian government, according to the outlet.
Canada recently alleged that New Delhi could be behind the killing of a Sikh leader, Hardeep Singh Nijjar, in the country this summer – a claim which Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government has strongly denied.
Oh deary deary me, this is utter humiliation for India!
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The FBI warned at least three prominent figures in the US Sikh community that their lives may be in danger, The Guardian reported on Tuesday.
One of the activists claimed the authorities advised him against traveling due to a threat presumably coming from the Indian government, according to the outlet.
Canada recently alleged that New Delhi could be behind the killing of a Sikh leader, Hardeep Singh Nijjar, in the country this summer – a claim which Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government has strongly denied.
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India's foreign minister, Subrahmanyam Jaishankar, said on Tuesday that India has told Canada it was open to looking into any "specific" or "relevant" information it provides on the killing of Sikh separatist Hardeep Singh Nijjar.
Asked about the allegations at a Council on Foreign Relations event in New York, Jaishankar detailed India's response in diplomatic engagements.
"One, we told the Canadians that this is not the government of India's policy," he said. "Two, we told the Canadians saying that look, if you have something specific, if you have something relevant, you know, let us know - we are open to looking at it."
India had been "badgering the Canadians" about its claims that organized criminals are based there, a reference to separatists like Nijjar, he said, adding that India had made "a large number of extradition requests."
"The picture is not complete without the context," he added. "You also have to appreciate that in the last few years, Canada actually has seen a lot of organized crime, you know, relating to, you know, the secessionist forces, organized-crime, violence, extremism, they're all very, very deeply mixed up."
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Asked about the allegations at a Council on Foreign Relations event in New York, Jaishankar detailed India's response in diplomatic engagements.
"One, we told the Canadians that this is not the government of India's policy," he said. "Two, we told the Canadians saying that look, if you have something specific, if you have something relevant, you know, let us know - we are open to looking at it."
India had been "badgering the Canadians" about its claims that organized criminals are based there, a reference to separatists like Nijjar, he said, adding that India had made "a large number of extradition requests."
"The picture is not complete without the context," he added. "You also have to appreciate that in the last few years, Canada actually has seen a lot of organized crime, you know, relating to, you know, the secessionist forces, organized-crime, violence, extremism, they're all very, very deeply mixed up."
India to examine 'specifics' on Sikh separatist killing in Canada | The Express Tribune
India tells Canada it's open to examining relevant information on the Nijjar murder case, denying involvement
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Sure. no fake title here.India's foreign minister, Subrahmanyam Jaishankar, said on Tuesday that India has told Canada it was open to looking into any "specific" or "relevant" information it provides on the killing of Sikh separatist Hardeep Singh Nijjar.
Asked about the allegations at a Council on Foreign Relations event in New York, Jaishankar detailed India's response in diplomatic engagements.
"One, we told the Canadians that this is not the government of India's policy," he said. "Two, we told the Canadians saying that look, if you have something specific, if you have something relevant, you know, let us know - we are open to looking at it."
India had been "badgering the Canadians" about its claims that organized criminals are based there, a reference to separatists like Nijjar, he said, adding that India had made "a large number of extradition requests."
"The picture is not complete without the context," he added. "You also have to appreciate that in the last few years, Canada actually has seen a lot of organized crime, you know, relating to, you know, the secessionist forces, organized-crime, violence, extremism, they're all very, very deeply mixed up."
India to examine 'specifics' on Sikh separatist killing in Canada | The Express Tribune
India tells Canada it's open to examining relevant information on the Nijjar murder case, denying involvement
Link to the entire.
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Canada Institute Experts React to the India-Canada Tensions
Money quote is here
>>>>Trudeau has made a dramatic accusation, but it is not yet clear whether it, coming out of the secret world of intelligence, can lead to criminal charges being laid. If they cannot, the issue will likely die a natural death, and Canada and India will slowly repair their frayed relations.<<<<
It has been a week+ since JT talked about alleged, credible, possible link. When is Canada bring something meaningful?
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Ok. What else?
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Really ? Do you have any source for this claim ? Meanwhile as per latest world bank data (2021) India's poverty rate is just 11.9% i.e. 167 million of 1407.6 million population
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Was against it but over time my opinion has changed and feel Sikhs should have their own country.
I don't really connect with others outside Punjabis in India and it feels weird to be associated with a country which often calls itself hindustan. Let's not forget what happened at the Golden Temple either.
That and the fact Indians are practically crapped on heavily overseas (far more than Pakistanis), Sikhs are generally really respected for the work they do for local communities and are known to be tough. Rather have a fresh start and be associated with that group than the typical Indian meme for being weak, nerdy and perverted.
Odds are nothing is going to happen but that's my stance on the matter.
I don't really connect with others outside Punjabis in India and it feels weird to be associated with a country which often calls itself hindustan. Let's not forget what happened at the Golden Temple either.
That and the fact Indians are practically crapped on heavily overseas (far more than Pakistanis), Sikhs are generally really respected for the work they do for local communities and are known to be tough. Rather have a fresh start and be associated with that group than the typical Indian meme for being weak, nerdy and perverted.
Odds are nothing is going to happen but that's my stance on the matter.
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Before Indians get offended, it's true. Indians are crapped on heavily overseas because of idiots who travel overseas and behave rudely with locals.
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Absolutely.
Khalistan is exactly what the Sikhs need, an independent country landlocked between India and Pakistan with so sea routes or air space accessibility without getting prior permission from India or Pakistan.
Now it is just a matter of putting Emptyland together and all will be well...
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Not a matter of economics. It's about identity.
Most Punjabis do not identify with India and probably do not want to either with the reputation that has been built.
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I want any Indian here to justify why anyone would want to stay and be associated with a nation like India which is basically viewed as second class overseas.
I dare the NRIs who have lived and seen this to justify it.
I dare the NRIs who have lived and seen this to justify it.
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The country and citizens are heavily memed. And as much as Indians try to feel superior to Pakistanis they are not viewed as negatively as they have positive characteristics which bump them up.
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Yeah lets get an identity but its all good if we cant survive being squeezed in between 2 hostile neighbors at their mercy.
You are making all kinds of sense today, credit where it is due..
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HaHa .... that is the most hilarious thing I have heard in a long time. I wonder where do these posters get their data from.
"Most Punjabis do not identify with India"
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Coming from someone who actually interacts with Punjabis on a daily basis.
New generation have the same thinking and don't call themselves Indian, they call themselves Punjabis.
The ones on the fence are indifferent or aren't in favor as they do not want conflict and see it is futile battle (in the same group but am for seperation if given a choice).
India will not let go for geopolitical reasons and a referendum won't get anything done. Even if the referendum shows Punjabis want out, India is not going to validate it. Only way for it is war but that's pointless bloodshed so what we have is what we have no with both sides barking until things shimmer down and it falls into the background. The attack in Canada will be forgotten and this movement will disappear again.
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So you know and speak to all the Punjabi Sikhs that live in India ?
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