LegendInzi
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Farce. Absolutely disgraceful murder of merit.
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Why is this guy not picked? What did he do? Flirt with the selector's daughter or something?
Whenever the selector Inzimam or team management [Mickey, Sarfraz] come to face media, they should be asked about Fawad Alam and shamed.
Farce. Absolutely disgraceful murder of merit.
He is not the answer. Move on.
Then who is? A guy averaging 58 in his first class career can't make the team but players with averages of half as much like masood and babar r getting in the team and failing consistently. There is no bigger injustice I've ever heard of than fawad not being selected. This team can't even chase 136! UTTER DISGRACE. Pakistan doesn't deserve to win matches while our selectors r this biased.
1. Selecting the playing XI cannot be determined based on previous "wrongs." It has to be based on selecting the current best 11. Whether he should have been selected in the past is neither here nor there. The bottom line is Fawad is nearly 32 and is past his peak. The fact he has only scored four hundreds in the last three years shows this.
2. Fawad would probably succeed in UAE but he will struggle elsewhere, especially if there is bounce/movement.
3. He doesn't fit the requirements of the team- we don't need another accumulator.
4. You talk as if Fawad has never been picked for Pakistan. He has. Everyone forgets how terrible he looked in his last series (ODIs). Couldn't even average 10 against Bangladesh.
5. One poor selection (ie. Masood) doesn't justify another bad selection. Neither of them deserve to be in the team.
6. Babar is 22 and his ceiling is far higher. You can't just pick on spreadsheets. If that is the type of selector you want, then please don't complain when Rasheed returns.
7. These same selectors just won us a CT. These are the same selectors who led Pakistan to #1 ranking in tests. Stop being so reactionary.
Posters need to stop imaging Fawad as the answer to all the batting problems. He isn't.
He will struggle outside of his comfort zone. He should have been given a chance but our fans act like he would have saved our batting line up and that he is significantly better then what we have . In this game he would have batted at the same snail paced most of our batters did . Time to move on from him.
Babar Azam, Asad Shafiq and Shaan Masood are currently struggling IN their comfort zones.
Babar Azam, Asad Shafiq and Shaan Masood are currently struggling IN their comfort zones.
Thought he might get a chance after retirements of Younis and Misbah but his continued exile is baffling.
At least give him a chance, look at all the other dross we've played ahead of him.
Fakhar is yet to establish a LO spot, and here we're discussing giving him a test debut. In case you haven't notice his glaring technical problems I will point them out to you:After today's performance do you agree now or at least see why we need a Fakhar Zaman at 5 or 6?
He will struggle outside of his comfort zone. He should have been given a chance but our fans act like he would have saved our batting line up and that he is significantly better then what we have . In this game he would have batted at the same snail paced most of our batters did . Time to move on from him.
by haris batting wwe have come to know that FC performance matters and yes he has a place..
Your last two lines really make sense.It should be done.It's important to note who he is competing with.
Alam is not an opener.
If the lineup is left as is with Sami/Shan, he has to take a spot from one of the middle order batsmen.
PAK won't drop Azhar or Shafiq. This leaves Babar, Haris, and Usman.
Haris just performed well, Usman topped the domestic charts (beating Fawad too!) and Babar is being groomed for a spot.
In essence, you have to drop Babar and give Fawad a spot. Is this something they wish to do? I'm not sure.
The only other solution is to have Azhar open, drop Shan completely, and bring Fawad into the squad.
1) Sami Aslam
2) Azhar Ali
3) Babar Azam
4) Asad Shafiq
5) Fawad Alam/Usman Salahuddin
6) Haris Sohail
BENCH: Fawad Alam/Usman Salahuddin
Fakhar is yet to establish a LO spot, and here we're discussing giving him a test debut. In case you haven't notice his glaring technical problems I will point them out to you:
1. Weak against the short ball- those top edges will be going straight down the throat of a fielder in test cricket.
2. He likes to free his arms, making him the perfect candidate for the old pitch if up and knick him off on a 5th stump line. When he's cramped for room (Look at Bumrah's spell to Fakhar before the no ball) he looked clueless, not knowing where and how to score.
3. A no.5/6 would likely face the second new ball, and Zaman is untested against international quality seamers who can hoop it around. But going by his dismissals in FC cricket (majority bowled or LBW) early on in his innings suggests he isn't the most accomplished.
Do we require a player that is positive? Yes. Is Fakhar Zaman the answer? No.
Someone like Sahibzada can be an immediate option as his back foot game is strong, and that is required in Asia and the UAE considering the uneven bounce and turn. And on the plus side he isn't totally inept against the moving ball.
Asad doesn't have much of a great technique either, he struggles with anything that comes into him due to falling over onto the off side and he's been out to the in-swinger so many times it's hard to count.Yet to establish a LO spot?!! LOL LOL LOL
He won Pakistan the CT! Goodness sake what a ridiculous statement to make.
His ability to attack spin could have made the difference between the 20 odd runs that Pakistan lost by and I don't believe batting in the late middle order will expose his technical deficiencies against pace in the SC especially in the UAE. In fact I challenge you to name any Pakistan player who is better at attacking spin?
We can agree he's not ready to bat outside SC although it wouldn't be surprising if he performed better than the timid kittens around him in the batting line up.
We can emphasise and analyse the importance of technique and the technical flaws but do we really need more Asad Shafiqs? Technically great but a mental midget who's been hiding behind Younis Khan and Misbah (in UAE).
Fakhar Zaman has the composure, resilience and stamina as well the nerves of steel to handle the big occasion - I'm not just going by his final CT innings, because he actually performed in every game in that tournament.
Fawad can play an anchors role but Inzi has other plans I guess.
Btw
Is Inzi somehow related to Akmals clan?
There is already lot of outrage on the unjust treatment meted out to Fawad Alam, he absolutely deserves to be in the side.
Pakistan is one unfortunate place and politics plays a huge role in the system which is why Pakistan is in such a sad place. Players like Akmals and people related to them (Babar Azam) get consistent chances for years whereas others are dropped even after single bad performance.
It was 2014, if I remember right he was removed from side to make way for Shoaib Malik or Kamran Akmal. The selction cmte. is trying their best to bring in the 'tainted' Salman Butt also.
Asad doesn't have much of a great technique either, he struggles with anything that comes into him due to falling over onto the off side and he's been out to the in-swinger so many times it's hard to count.
Hussain Talat has shown his capability to go big against the spinners in the PSL (albeit one innings) and the pacers in the Pakistan Cup, and on the plus side he can bowl 10-12 overs on a given day if required.
You have to remember Fakhar arrived as an unknown entity in the CT, yet India still managed to work him over after 4 innings- i.e. Don't provide him width. In the recent Independence Cup he was worked over with the same ploy and looked clueless. To say Fakhar has established a LO spot on the basis of a couple of innings is foolish to say the least.
No you are right, we have an amazing team in Test cricket right now and our batting line-up are full of world class talents who haven't just been humiliated by a team that themselves haven't been struggling so bad that they were considered a joke. Also the best way to judge test players is not in first class cricket but in ODI performances because this has always worked so well for us in the past...
Fawad might not be the answer to all Pakistan batting issues but despite the fact all cricketers should retire as soon as they turn 30, he still has an inner steel to his batting and values his wicket while rotating the strike unlike most of our players.
Hussain Talat is one for the future but going by his FC average he is not even close to a Pakistan A call up at present.
I should also mention as a left hander Fakhar could have tamed Herath far more easily as well. The current line up has too many right handers who all bat at the same sedate pace and are abysmal against spin (barring Sarfraz but his avg is coming down fast).
When Talat's department keep refusing to select him for FC matches, then what can he do?
Can't leave his career in the hands of his department, especially with Hafeez as his captain. PCB's responsibility to nurture talent- they can't just rely on spreadsheets.
It seems that Zaman, with two ltd overs matches with lots of luck behind the runs, can already be evaluated as a test match player.
The hardest job in Test cricket should go to a guy who made an ODI century. One with several edges that luckily fell out of range and a dropped catch or two.
Might as well call back Afridi to open.
Rather than rant aimlessly, it would be helpful if you actually responded to what I wrote.
You would also do well to remember that this is the first test post-MisYou. To that end, stop being so reactionary and allow the team to settle.
By the way, Fawad's strike rate suggests he is not as good at rotating the strike as you suggest. I have already mentioned he is another accumulator and so does not fit the needs of the team.
The first qualification of a batsman is that he can score. Scoring quickly is no good if he always falls cheaply. In this lineup, only Ahzar, and possibly Haris, are capable of piling up runs. They are the only automatic selections. Every other spot could be up for grabs, and Fawad should be first in line for one of the vacancies
Nope it isn't just based on his CT it's actually more to do with the fact he averages 42 in FC which is among the best in Pak and better than some first XI players in the team such as Shafiq. He also possesses a SR of well over 60 - that no one in the country can match barring Sharjeel who unfortunately has thrown his career away!
Fakhar is ready to bat in the SC only at present - down at number 5 or 6 when the ball is old where the bowling spells are dominated by spinners presenting him the chance for him to not only score runs but to exert pressure on the opposition.
None of the Pakistan players in the test side are anywhere near as good as dismantling spinners the way he can and I would back him even on that day 5 surface to neutalise Herath to give Pakistan those extra 20 odd runs.
I would absolutely love to see Fakhar come into the team and be our David Warner.
The idea of him playing an innings like he did in the final, is exhilarating. Problem is that he was dropped twice [?] and he just doesn't seem like he'd have the technique to succeed in Tests.
I don't want any player not to succeed, and would love to be proven wrong because that would mean the team is in a better place.
It's a small sample set, but in CT he was just throwing his bat at everything as if he was the second coming of Afridi.
I hope I end up being wrong.
In other words he was playing according to the requirements of an ODI game. If the two sports are different then they require different approaches. Someone who plays ODIs and Tests exactly the same way is precisely what you don't want. Curious to see how Fakhar goes in FC this season.
If Inzi was like that, he'd have already picked Imam ul Haq.
Another century for this guy today. Can't believe he hasn't played a test for so long
In which match he scored century?