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Anyone here who eats beef being a Hindu?

Respect for you remaining steadfast to your culture and traditions brother.
Didn’t think I’d see the day Pakistanis praising an Indian for not eating beef and other Indians trying hard to prove the stereotype wrong 😀

In the end though everyone should eat what they choose, provided they respect others’ sentiments.
 
Eat whatever you wish, or choose not to, but do not harm or kill others over what they decide to eat. That is my only beef with those who justify violence against human beings in the name of religion.


Oye Habibi you are back again with your usual nonsense ?

So you want to explain what happens when the highlighted part in your post above involves trampling on extremely sacred beliefs of another religion ?

ohh dont worry I know you will never answer that simple question as you got no guts. Because if you do so you know you will get pwned

So I am going to tag a few of your beloved buddies that might help you out

@The Bald Eagle
@BouncerGuy

Or should I have to tag your minions who are usually found cackling with you ?
 
I'm a Born-Again Christian, and I don't consume beef. I grew up in a Hindu family, hence no beef in our family or our extended families. And my simple policy is I'll never consume any type of meat that I didn't consume growing up. I don't really know though whether beef is prohibited in Hindu scriptures.​
 
I'm a Born-Again Christian, and I don't consume beef. I grew up in a Hindu family, hence no beef in our family or our extended families. And my simple policy is I'll never consume any type of meat that I didn't consume growing up. I don't really know though whether beef is prohibited in Hindu scriptures.​

Even if you wanted to, Himanta has disallowed you where you live (Assam). In other words, he's decided to be the daddy of your tongue.
 
Even if you wanted to, Himanta has disallowed you where you live (Assam). In other words, he's decided to be the daddy of your tongue.
It's available in our neighbouring state, Meghalaya. It's barely 90 kms away from here.
 
I was born around Tibetans, so beef momo used to be something we consumed quite a lot, mostly at their homes. My family used to pretend like they cared but they did not as I was never really forced to change my ways. Any Sanatani who ever did the same need not feel ashamed because Sanatan in much broader sense never really prohibits the choice.

It was only after I grew fond of animals and explored the beauty of Hinduism, I stopped eating most animal meats. Working with Gaushalas, I started seeing cows as companions, and not just food. That's when a new me was born. Very happy to be this way for last 7 years.
 
Oye Habibi you are back again with your usual nonsense ?

So you want to explain what happens when the highlighted part in your post above involves trampling on extremely sacred beliefs of another religion ?

ohh dont worry I know you will never answer that simple question as you got no guts. Because if you do so you know you will get pwned

So I am going to tag a few of your beloved buddies that might help you out

@The Bald Eagle
@BouncerGuy

Or should I have to tag your minions who are usually found cackling with you ?
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I was born around Tibetans, so beef momo used to be something we consumed quite a lot, mostly at their homes. My family used to pretend like they cared but they did not as I was never really forced to change my ways. Any Sanatani who ever did the same need not feel ashamed because Sanatan in much broader sense never really prohibits the choice.

It was only after I grew fond of animals and explored the beauty of Hinduism, I stopped eating most animal meats. Working with Gaushalas, I started seeing cows as companions, and not just food. That's when a new me was born. Very happy to be this way for last 7 years.


Surely if the reason was growing fond of animals, you would stop eating ALL animal meats? :unsure:
 
Surely if the reason was growing fond of animals, you would stop eating ALL animal meats? :unsure:
Sadly it's not the case and I am aware of the hypocrisy here. Cats, dogs, cows and goats are off my menu, I have spent way too long rescuing them and would rather see them live than be on my plate.
 
Sadly it's not the case and I am aware of the hypocrisy here. Cats, dogs, cows and goats are off my menu, I have spent way too long rescuing them and would rather see them live than be on my plate.
thank you for rescuing the latter two so they can end up on our plate and the former two so they can end on Tibetan plates. Not all heroes wear capes, salute to you 😔 🫡
 
thank you for rescuing the latter two so they can end up on our plate and the former two so they can end on Tibetan plates. Not all heroes wear capes, salute to you 😔 🫡
Chill bruh, I really don't get this urge to one-up someone for absolutely no reason. Tibetans don't eat cats or dogs, and our rescues live longer than they would have without our intervention. That's the goal.
 
I for one eat only what I could kill and kill too at times. Mostly chicken, Fish and Goats
 
Chill bruh, I really don't get this urge to one-up someone for absolutely no reason. Tibetans don't eat cats or dogs, and our rescues live longer than they would have without our intervention. That's the goal.
Just joking bro, dil pay na lay. It’s commendable that you’re out there rescuing animals- goes without saying 👍 😊
 
I for one eat only what I could kill and kill too at times. Mostly chicken, Fish and Goats

Not a big fan of goat meat. It kind of smells bad. :inti

If I have to eat goat meat, I prefer it to be super-spicy curry so that it masks the smell.

My favorite meats --> beef, lamb, and chicken. Goat too if it is super-spicy.
 
Oye Habibi you are back again with your usual nonsense ?

So you want to explain what happens when the highlighted part in your post above involves trampling on extremely sacred beliefs of another religion ?

ohh dont worry I know you will never answer that simple question as you got no guts. Because if you do so you know you will get pwned

So I am going to tag a few of your beloved buddies that might help you out

@The Bald Eagle
@BouncerGuy

Or should I have to tag your minions who are usually found cackling with you ?


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I'm a hardcore non vegetarian (just chicken and goat). But I have never, and will never kill an animal or a bird. I don't have to intestinal fortitude to do it.

Hypocritical on my part, but that's the way it is.​
You can eat them but not kill them on your own?
 
That's what makes me a hypocrite. But that's how I was brought up. While I've never killed an animal or bird, I'm a hardcore non vegetarian. I'd rather die than give up meat.​
Wah... Good for you... Everyone has their own way to deal with things... Strange, but as you like...
 
I do. But not regularly or anything. I actually prefer seafood over everything else.

I like beef only when it is made typical Kerala style with coconut and what not. And maybe the odd beef burger

But don't like anything else.
 
I'm a Born-Again Christian, and I don't consume beef. I grew up in a Hindu family, hence no beef in our family or our extended families. And my simple policy is I'll never consume any type of meat that I didn't consume growing up. I don't really know though whether beef is prohibited in Hindu scriptures.​

You are doing good. Since you never had it earlier , it's better to avoid.
 
I do. But not regularly or anything. I actually prefer seafood over everything else.

I like beef only when it is made typical Kerala style with coconut and what not. And maybe the odd beef burger

But don't like anything else.

A real burger is something which can only be made with beef.
 
Interesting to see how this thread has developed. Indian posters in the past seemed more liberal and okay to eating beef. Modi's rule has radicalized secular India.

Nowadays, even in Canada, majority of my Hindus friends, avoid eating at restaurants that serve beef. They're okay eating chicken and mutton but beef seems to a be a no go.
 
Had beef in the past. Not a fan of the buff meat that we usually get in India. Hence , I don't eat it.

The way i see it is that it's always the male of the animal that is preferred in terms of meat. The females are needed for the survivability of the animal and to produce milk. For Hindus, It's the female that's venerated as mother(namely because of the it produces milk etc etc).

I personally can eat the male bovine if i want to. I choose not to though, Not because of the religion, just because I get really good mutton in Telangana and would prefer that to Beef anytime. I don't eat red meat too much nowadays so when I choose to , I'd rather have meat that I like as opposed to the one that i don't like.
 
Well, I am neither a strict Hindu nor a Christian. I follow aspects of both.

I ate a cheeseburger for the first time in the UK, and only after many months did, I come to know that it contained beef. :DSecond time I had beef was at a beachside place in Kochi.

We don’t normally cook beef at home, and I respect the beliefs of other family members.

Personally, I don’t like the smell of beef while it is cooking. Few years back, when I was living in a shared house in the UK, an African guy was using the kitchen and started cooking beef. The smell was so horrible that I felt like vomiting. Most of the African people don’t cook beef properly, and semi cooked beef smell horrible.
 
And the other thing i'd like to say is that there's a logical reason as to why that "religious rule" was made in India.

The Cow in India is needed for giving milk which is a source of sustenance for Indians.

The Bull's are/were used for help in farming etc. Ploughing the fields as well as transportation and Insemination of Cows to produce more.

If the rule had not been kept , then most cattle would have been reared to be slaughtered. Since there are more benefits to keeping the animal alive, this rule was made as a religious order so that people would believe and adopt it easily. Doesn't make the rule stupid or the people who've adopted the order to be stupid. Overtime , this has evolved into a cultural mindset that we see in parts in North India(The Gau rakshak etc etc) whose mindset i deplore totally.

And no where in the world is a female prized for its meat. Females are almost always used for production of milk. The meat of the male is generally regarded as the better choice. That's pretty much what happens in Kerala where a lot of Hindus do eat meat. Bulls are slaughtered.

I'm not from Kerala and I'm a Hindu by virtue of the fact i've born a Hindu. I've read up most of the scriptures and the books and would say I'm agnostic and a Hindu. That's allowed in Hinduism
 
I am a pure vegetarian. I dont think I can digest fact that I killed something and eating it.even if am a born non vegetarian , I think i may have left it after a certain age.
 
Thread comes out of ignorance.

The oldest text to Sanatna, Rig veda, originates in modern day Uzbekistan, not exactly a vegetarian hot bed.

The vegetarian approach was a counter to the spread of Jainism in India, where "hindu" leaders coopted Jainism values.

The secondary reason might more economical, related to he resources needed to produce meet.
 
Interesting to see how this thread has developed. Indian posters in the past seemed more liberal and okay to eating beef. Modi's rule has radicalized secular India.

Nowadays, even in Canada, majority of my Hindus friends, avoid eating at restaurants that serve beef. They're okay eating chicken and mutton but beef seems to a be a no go.

Pretty sure you would be throwing around "Mashallah's" left, right and centre if somebody observed that a community of Muslims became more religiously observant over time with respect to observing "halal" meat or abstaining from alcohol.

And then we are expected to believe that a lot of practising Muslims are not supremacists themselves.
 
That's what makes me a hypocrite. But that's how I was brought up. While I've never killed an animal or bird, I'm a hardcore non vegetarian. I'd rather die than give up meat.​

I think it's so easy to give up meat these days. If you really care for the welfare of animals or birds then there are decent meat alternatives these days, which might not taste quite as good, but they are a decent substitution.

Whether they provide the same nutrition I don't know but presumably with so many well informed vegans and vegetarians around that shouldn't be an issue.
 
Pretty sure you would be throwing around "Mashallah's" left, right and centre if somebody observed that a community of Muslims became more religiously observant over time with respect to observing "halal" meat or abstaining from alcohol.

And then we are expected to believe that a lot of practising Muslims are not supremacists themselves.


A lot wrong with this statements.

1. No practicing Muslim gets a Masha'Allah or a shabaash for observing the bare minimum

2. So you agree that Indian Hindu's have become more radical under Modi era? My case in point is this thread, just read it from the beginning. Indian posters were more tolerant of eating beef compared to now
 
A lot wrong with this statements.

1. No practicing Muslim gets a Masha'Allah or a shabaash for observing the bare minimum

2. So you agree that Indian Hindu's have become more radical under Modi era? My case in point is this thread, just read it from the beginning. Indian posters were more tolerant of eating beef compared to now

What a stupid post. So , Hindus not eating beef is your idea of being radical?

You did not imply lack of tolerance. You literally said that Hindus were only liberal if they consumed beef.

It's like one of us saying that the only good liberal Muslim is one who eats pork and drinks wine.
 
It depends on people's preferences ( talking about food only) . They can eat whatever they want.

But I remember very well when I was 12 years old, my elder brother came home after drinking with his friends and my father slapped him so hard that he never even thought of drinking again till date.

:kp
 
It depends on people's preferences ( talking about food only) . They can eat whatever they want.

But I remember very well when I was 12 years old, my elder brother came home after drinking with his friends and my father slapped him so hard that he never even thought of drinking again till date.

:kp
Bro, this thread is only about beef. Alcohol is a completely different kettle of fish :kp
 
What a stupid post. So , Hindus not eating beef is your idea of being radical?

You did not imply lack of tolerance. You literally said that Hindus were only liberal if they consumed beef.

It's like one of us saying that the only good liberal Muslim is one who eats pork and drinks wine.

Having comprehension issues? Because you're making a hasty generalization that I did not make. Go back and read my post again.

Also not sure what you're so triggered about. Maybe me mentioning Modi hit a nerve?

Indian posters did seem more liberal or maybe the correct word is secular. I didn't see many posts where they are calling out others for eating beef. In fact the discussion dwelled into whether beef is even banned in Hinduism or not!

On the Muslim side ALLHAMDOLILAH we do not have any confusion over whether pork is permissible. And as for considering Muslims liberal... that's a big LOL. Please name me 5 Hindus that genuinely believe practicing Muslims can be liberal.

Under Modi, Indian mentality has regressed (I have made this statement many times in various threads on various topics). You might be thinking Hinduism has rejuvenated under his rule but my observation is that his rule has shattered the concept of secularism that India once portrayed. There's many examples of this such as:
-Increased cow vigilantism
-Building a temple on a mosque site (which I believe has triggered a precedent now and it won't be the only case)
-Modi's fiery election speeches against Muslims and portraying the opposition as those that support Muslims
-Indian Muslims having to prove citizenship whereas Hindus from other countries are openly welcomed
-Waqf bill for more government insight on communal Muslim properties
-changing history books to undermine the Mughal rule

These are just some examples and I'm sure there are many more. Setting the beef aside, Indian Hindus are not liberal anymore. And it's fine not to be but don't try to portray something you're not
 
Interesting to see how this thread has developed. Indian posters in the past seemed more liberal and okay to eating beef. Modi's rule has radicalized secular India.

Nowadays, even in Canada, majority of my Hindus friends, avoid eating at restaurants that serve beef. They're okay eating chicken and mutton but beef seems to a be a no go.

This is what you said. Now don't backtrack and lie and misrepresent.

You clearly equated being liberal with eating beef and radicalisation with not eating beef.

Don't try and false equivalence and hide behind semantics of liberalism and secularism.

Hindus not eating beef in restaurants has got nothing to do with secularism
 
Interesting to see how this thread has developed. Indian posters in the past seemed more liberal and okay to eating beef. Modi's rule has radicalized secular India.

Nowadays, even in Canada, majority of my Hindus friends, avoid eating at restaurants that serve beef. They're okay eating chicken and mutton but beef seems to a be a no go.

Tell them Narendra has no idea they exist.

They'll be back to eating cows no problemo.
 
This is what you said. Now don't backtrack and lie and misrepresent.

You clearly equated being liberal with eating beef and radicalisation with not eating beef.

Don't try and false equivalence and hide behind semantics of liberalism and secularism.

Hindus not eating beef in restaurants has got nothing to do with secularism

Now that you read the post again please tell me where I mentioned eating beef as the 'only' factor in being liberal or not. Because that's what you're arguing, your exact words:

"You did not imply lack of tolerance. You literally said that Hindus were only liberal if they consumed beef."

I read the thread from the beggining and for me it was very insightful (one of the reasons I continue to visit this great forum). I too was under the impression that Hinduism bans eating beef but now I know so much more. About the Vedas differing from later scriptures and how banning cow slaughter was for the greater good.

The impression I got from the older posters is that they were genuinely discussing the topic whereas guys like you get offended.
 
Interesting to see how this thread has developed. Indian posters in the past seemed more liberal and okay to eating beef. Modi's rule has radicalized secular India.

Nowadays, even in Canada, majority of my Hindus friends, avoid eating at restaurants that serve beef. They're okay eating chicken and mutton but beef seems to a be a no go.
I don't think there's any change in Indians who eat beef. There's plenty who do including myself.

However, the thread specifically asks about Hindus. Given the way taboos about beef have grown over the last 100 years, I think it would be rather difficult if not impossible to find folks who claim to be Hindu and still eat beef. At best you might find an agnostic but more likely they'll be atheists.

From my limited experience, the Muslims who eat pork don't care that much about the religion either. I know only 2 folks with Muslim names who do and while I'm not close enough to them to ask direct, I don't think they take their religion too seriously.

Would you agree or do you know a lot of Muslim liberals who eat pork?
 
Hindus not eating beef in restaurants has got nothing to do with secularism

Maybe try reading the thread. Many older posters were sharing their experience that they would eat beef at restaurants but not at home. Now even at restaurants it's a no go.

And I can tell you this by first hand experience. I own a restaurant that caters to the Indian community. We do not serve beef. Many people ask us beforehand if we do
 
I don't think there's any change in Indians who eat beef. There's plenty who do including myself.

However, the thread specifically asks about Hindus. Given the way taboos about beef have grown over the last 100 years, I think it would be rather difficult if not impossible to find folks who claim to be Hindu and still eat beef. At best you might find an agnostic but more likely they'll be atheists.

From my limited experience, the Muslims who eat pork don't care that much about the religion either. I know only 2 folks with Muslim names who do and while I'm not close enough to them to ask direct, I don't think they take their religion too seriously.

Would you agree or do you know a lot of Muslim liberals who eat pork?

There are many people out there that have Muslim names due to the Global reach of Islam. Maybe their previous generations were practicing Muslims and in the west they lost that part. Or they might have had mixed parents with the kid deciding not to follow any particular religion.

The only person I remember who intentionally ate it (A Pepperoni Pizza) was a Bosniak girl. She was a war refugee who appreciated any food and would not waste it.
 
There are many people out there that have Muslim names due to the Global reach of Islam. Maybe their previous generations were practicing Muslims and in the west they lost that part. Or they might have had mixed parents with the kid deciding not to follow any particular religion.

The only person I remember who intentionally ate it (A Pepperoni Pizza) was a Bosniak girl. She was a war refugee who appreciated any food and would not waste it.
Possible I guess. As I said, I don't know either of them well enough to ask if they think of themselves as Muslim. One of them has a very Dawoodi Bohri surname if that makes a difference - 'Upletvala'.

Alcohol, though I know quite a few Muslims who partake occasionally. I don't think it's that much of a taboo and I think most tell themselves they'll be forgiven this minor sin.

To come back to the point of the thread though, I think whether firmly proscribed by the scriptures or not, beef has become such a taboo among Hindus at least for the last 50 years if not longer...say 100 years that it's almost reached the status of pork for Muslims. You can't say you're really Hindu and still eat it except for tiny pockets here and there.
 
I don't think there's any change in Indians who eat beef. There's plenty who do including myself.

However, the thread specifically asks about Hindus. Given the way taboos about beef have grown over the last 100 years, I think it would be rather difficult if not impossible to find folks who claim to be Hindu and still eat beef. At best you might find an agnostic but more likely they'll be atheists.

From my limited experience, the Muslims who eat pork don't care that much about the religion either. I know only 2 folks with Muslim names who do and while I'm not close enough to them to ask direct, I don't think they take their religion too seriously.

Would you agree or do you know a lot of Muslim liberals who eat pork?
I have personally never seen any Muslim who eats pork. Though I do not disagree that they do exist.
 
I have personally never seen any Muslim who eats pork. Though I do not disagree that they do exist.
I think any Muslim eating pork will not even think about it loudly.i have quite a few friends who dont do fasting in Ramzan period.only one of them was vocal pointing his gastric issues .others want to lie down .
 
I think any Muslim eating pork will not even think about it loudly.i have quite a few friends who dont do fasting in Ramzan period.only one of them was vocal pointing his gastric issues .others want to lie down .
Yes that is true.

But still never encountered any Muslim eating pork. I mean should have seen at least one.
 
How do we know many of them don't eat it (or drink alcohol) in private?

Pork is just another meat, if you have grown up not eating it, I would think even lapsed Muslims would not really go out of their way to eat it. Why bother when you can eat beef, chicken, lamb, seafood etc?

Intoxicating substances are another matter. There are plenty of Muslims even in Pakistan who will drink, smoke charas, or hard drugs.
 
How do we know many of them don't eat it (or drink alcohol) in private?
It's theoretically possible I suppose especially since, for eating pork, the Quran doesn't prescribe the frankly bonkers punishments Islamic law does for so many transgressions. Only says it's forbidden.

However, given the insane level of taboo around it and the way Islamic religious scholars seem to treat it as the ultimate sin, I think you'd have to have the kind of loose faith in Islamic injunctions so as to almost be an agnostic or non-Muslim to be able to eat pork.
 
Pork is just another meat, if you have grown up not eating it, I would think even lapsed Muslims would not really go out of their way to eat it. Why bother when you can eat beef, chicken, lamb, seafood etc?

Intoxicating substances are another matter. There are plenty of Muslims even in Pakistan who will drink, smoke charas, or hard drugs.
It's an incredibly delicious meat though. No other meat can offer the utter awesomeness of bacon.

Agreed on the whole however. I think I've had this discussion with someone else on this forum. Many Muslims find the injunctions around alcohol easier to reason themselves around than pork.
 
I know plenty of Muslims who consume pork, though obviously they wouldn’t be considered practicing Muslims.

In the West, the issue of avoiding pork is often exaggerated because Muslims usually need to confirm what they are being served. In Muslim majority countries, people generally don’t have to ask, since pork isn’t commonly part of the food culture. Similarly, Muslims often check whether meat is halal, just as Jews verify whether food is kosher.

No Muslim scholar treats consuming pork as the ultimate sin, it is simply regarded as one sin among others.
 
It's an incredibly delicious meat though. No other meat can offer the utter awesomeness of bacon.

Agreed on the whole however. I think I've had this discussion with someone else on this forum. Many Muslims find the injunctions around alcohol easier to reason themselves around than pork.

It's the same reasoning as most of us would use not to eat cats, dogs or insects. I am sure there are people in east Asia who could tell us just how delicious those are but 95% of us would just say ok but no thanks. In fact in some part of the world there might be folk who would insist human meat is the most delicious of all. How would we know? :unsure:
 
As a clueless freshie, I confidently ordered a pepperoni pizza thinking it meant spicy peppers. Turns out I ordered a religious plot twist instead.
 
It's the same reasoning as most of us would use not to eat cats, dogs or insects. I am sure there are people in east Asia who could tell us just how delicious those are but 95% of us would just say ok but no thanks. In fact in some part of the world there might be folk who would insist human meat is the most delicious of all. How would we know? :unsure:
Personally I have eaten dog and insects (though not cat yet) but I get where you're coming from. Taboos, religious or not, inculcated when very young are extremely difficult to get over for most. Religious prohibitions just add that extra barrier to overcome.
 
Born into a Hindu family. Been atheistic since around 17. Probably full-blown atheist from late-20s. Had gotten into some of the more spiritual Indian aspects in mid-20s. But didn't really stick.

So probably not Hindu anymore except on paper. But yeah, been eating beef for years now. When BJP lost my state elections, I did celebrate with some beef cutlets, but that offended by friend @Rajdeep here :(
 
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