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Anyone suffered or suffering from Jadoo/Sihr/Taveez?

medical science doesnt have the cure for everything, but that does not mean that these jadoo ghars have the solution. These ppl prey on the desperate...

That's where the whole point of debate is. There are so, so many liars and imposters out there that it's extremely difficult to find the real ones and then there are so many cases out there that actually need medical and psychiatric help rather then spiritual healing so it's not easy to identify the real jaadoofied ones. All in all it's all a big tangled up mess where u simply cant connect the dots as 1 2 3.
I think there are VERY FEW healers and there are very few actual cases of possessed ones, rest is all BS.

And for those calling it paindu talk, I am not sure how can you call it paindu belief otherwise the last two suhras of the holy book may be meaningless to you. Read and understand the meaning and detailed explanation of these ayaats and ask yourself if these ayaats are revealed for paindus ??(astaghfirullah)
 
rhussain,
Why do u think anyone would target you for whatever u think has been done to you? Do u owe anyone some huge amount of money? Have u hurt someone really bad? Is someone super jealous of you? Has someone picked you an experimental target for his/her magic practice? Did some girl love u WAY TOO MUCH and couldn't get married to you?

Jeolousy is so rife nowadays & that's the main reason for ppl making jadoo. They can't see others happy or with more wealth than them or if they can't have children or sometimes even jeolous of the other's spouses. In most cases it's done by the 1 you least expect. Therefore it's not advisable to keep too close to friends/outsiders & disclose everything to any1 other than your spouse or parents(to a certain extent). But then again sometimes it's family members & it's duty to maintain family ties. It's not only rife in Asian countries, here in South Africa it's also quite hectic,i know. There are many 'pirs' here also,many from subcontinent & some local,but it's v complicated, if you're badly affected then some are not 'strong enough' & will tell you that whilst other's will tell you that they can cure you-after a while,no diff. Almost impossible to find 1 who will refuse to take money(you have to offer),only the v pious i suppose. Some won't tell you who's it as they say it'll create problems. People who do do this type of work,it affects their family also when they try help you. If you have to hear what ppl go through or what happens to them due to jadoo,it'll make your hair stand. Doctors won't be able to detect it, they'll either say everything's fine or find a problem which isn't correct. I would suggest OP don't necessarily look/turn to pir, instead turn to Allah everyday. Read salaatul haajat & ask Allah to guide you to some1 through who's hands Allah will cure you. It's a testing time for you. Also read 3x daily morning & night 'fa lamma alqaw qaala musa ma ji'tum bihis sihr innallaha sa yubtilu innallaha laa yuslihu amalal mufsideen wa yu hiqullahul haqqa bi kalimatihi wa law karihal mujrimeen'
insha'allah it'll help
 
@rhussain33

This might sound weird but this is a genuine question I am not trying to be funny or insensitive. I am doing a case study on this subject and I would really appreciate if you answer this question.

Did you or do you smoke weed by any chance?

Naa I dont dude... sorry. Dont smoke, dont drink, dont do drugs... That Master Blasting from Razzaq for Leicester got me high though :razzaq
 
Also those who suffer from jadoo, usually it gets worst if they attend funerals & partake of the meals. So some can not eat at mayyet houses & others attending it may also affect them.
 
I would suggest OP don't necessarily look/turn to pir, instead turn to Allah everyday. Read salaatul haajat & ask Allah to guide you to some1 through who's hands Allah will cure you. It's a testing time for you. Also read 3x daily morning & night 'fa lamma alqaw qaala musa ma ji'tum bihis sihr innallaha sa yubtilu innallaha laa yuslihu amalal mufsideen wa yu hiqullahul haqqa bi kalimatihi wa law karihal mujrimeen'
insha'allah it'll help

Brother I have been reading that ayah alot, over water as well and drinking it, I have been listening to that Ayah amongst others as well, in the Ruqya I listen to, I read the four quls and ayatul Qursi every night many times and blow it upon myself... nothing seems to be working, I need this stuff removed from the root.

The following are some of the ayahs which are recited in Ruqya

وَأَوْحَيْنَا إِلَى مُوسَى أَنْ أَلْقِ عَصَاكَ فَإِذَا هِيَ تَلْقَفُ مَا يَأْفِكُونَ (7:117) فَوَقَعَ الْحَقُّ وَبَطَلَ مَا كَانُوا يَعْمَلُونَ (7:118) فَغُلِبُوا هُنَالِكَ وَانْقَلَبُوا صَاغِرِينَ (7:119) وَأُلْقِيَ السَّحَرَةُ سَاجِدِينَ (7:120) قَالُوا آَمَنَّا بِرَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ (7:121) رَبِّ مُوسَى وَهَارُونَ (7:122)

And We inspired Mûsa (Moses) (saying): "Throw your stick," and behold! It swallowed up straight away all the falsehoods which they showed. Thus truth was confirmed, and all that they did was made of no effect. So they were defeated there and then, and were returned disgraced. And the sorcerers fell down prostrate. They said: "We believe in the Lord of the 'Alamîn (mankind, jinns and all that exists). "The Lord of Mûsa (Moses) and Hârûn (Aaron)


فَلَمَّا أَلْقَوْا قَالَ مُوسَى مَا جِئْتُمْ بِهِ السِّحْرُ إِنَّ اللَّهَ سَيُبْطِلُهُ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُصْلِحُ عَمَلَ الْمُفْسِدِينَ (10:81) وَيُحِقُّ اللَّهُ الْحَقَّ بِكَلِمَاتِهِ وَلَوْ كَرِهَ الْمُجْرِمُونَ (10:82)

Then when they had cast down, Mûsa (Moses) said: "What you have brought is sorcery, Allâh will surely make it of no effect. Verily, Allâh does not set right the work of Al-Mufsidûn (the evil-doers, corrupts, etc.). "And Allâh will establish and make apparent the truth by His Words, however much the Mujrimûn (criminals, disbelievers, polytheists, sinners, etc.) may hate it."



وَأَلْقِ مَا فِي يَمِينِكَ تَلْقَفْ مَا صَنَعُوا إِنَّمَا صَنَعُوا كَيْدُ سَاحِرٍ وَلَا يُفْلِحُ السَّاحِرُ حَيْثُ أَتَى (20: 69)

"And throw that which is in your right hand! It will swallow up that which they have made. That which they have made is only a magician's trick, and the magician will never be successful, no matter whatever amount (of skill) he may attain."


وَاتَّبَعُوا مَا تَتْلُو الشَّيَاطِينُ عَلَى مُلْكِ سُلَيْمَانَ وَمَا كَفَرَ سُلَيْمَانُ وَلَكِنَّ الشَّيَاطِينَ كَفَرُوا يُعَلِّمُونَ النَّاسَ السِّحْرَ وَمَا أُنْزِلَ عَلَى الْمَلَكَيْنِ بِبَابِلَ هَارُوتَ وَمَارُوتَ وَمَا يُعَلِّمَانِ مِنْ أَحَدٍ حَتَّى يَقُولَا إِنَّمَا نَحْنُ فِتْنَةٌ فَلَا تَكْفُرْ فَيَتَعَلَّمُونَ مِنْهُمَا مَا يُفَرِّقُونَ بِهِ بَيْنَ الْمَرْءِ وَزَوْجِهِ وَمَا هُمْ بِضَارِّينَ بِهِ مِنْ أَحَدٍ إِلَّا بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ وَيَتَعَلَّمُونَ مَا يَضُرُّهُمْ وَلَا يَنْفَعُهُمْ وَلَقَدْ عَلِمُوا لَمَنِ اشْتَرَاهُ مَا لَهُ فِي الْآَخِرَةِ مِنْ خَلَاقٍ وَلَبِئْسَ مَا شَرَوْا بِهِ أَنْفُسَهُمْ لَوْ كَانُوا يَعْلَمُونَ (2:102)

They followed what the Shayâtin (devils) gave out (falsely of the magic) in the lifetime of Sulaimân (Solomon). Sulaimân did not disbelieve, but the Shayâtin (devils) disbelieved, teaching men magic and such things that came down at Babylon to the two angels, Hârût and Mârût, but neither of these two (angels) taught anyone (such things) till they had said, "We are only for trial, so disbelieve not (by learning this magic from us)." And from these (angels) people learn that by which they cause separation between man and his wife, but they could not thus harm anyone except by Allâh's Leave. And they learn that which harms them and profits them not. And indeed they knew that the buyers of it (magic) would have no share in the Hereafter. And how bad indeed was that for which they sold their ownselves, if they but knew.
 
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Please don't lose hope in Allah's mercy & continue reading with more conviction. Also makes lots of dua as it's always accepted either immediately, you'll be saved from a calamity that was to befall you or it will be accepted in the Hereafter i.e your stage elevated,insha'allah. Some ppl are affected for over 20years whilst others aren't even aware that they're affected. Every1 goes through different things some may have marital problems,sever migraines or pains which recur regularly, bedridden,strokes & some even go mad & do things unimaginable and extremely embarrasing & aren't able to control themselves. Make lots of sabr,i know it's difficult but it's a test from Allah & always remember that Allah only tests those whom He LOVES. Try to do the islamic work you used to do 4 years ago and try to make an extra effort with reagards to zikr,durood,salaat,sadkah,quraan - let it be a motivation for you to make more amal(not less) & insha'allah after difficulty comes ease but plz don't give up & don't lose hope.
 
Such a sad story. May Allah guide you to a full recovery to normality brother.
 
Jadoo ka ilaj

Dear rhussain33,

I have suffered Black Magic and i will tell you here why you is not being fresh. The reason is because you tell to others what you is reading. Never tell to others even your wife, mother or brothers what you are reading. Because when you tell to other peoples what you are reading so Jadoogar will know it and you will not be fresh. Then you will not get rid of Black magic. I will not tell you how jadoogar know it.

Make a dua for me if you have been fresh and healthy.
 
Why only people from the subcontinent?

Because its mainly people in the subcontinent who are very superstitious about these things. To be fair, Africa and Latin America too.
 
No disrespect to the OP, but believing in this stuff just makes the patient prone to making excuses and not tackling the root of their problems, which in this case are clearly repressed and deep-seated.

Avoid quackery, and seek psychological and existential therapy with a trained professional.
 
Good question, James.

Because of lack of education and Emaan mostly in villages. Our families have suffered at the hand of magic big times. It's practice is out there now, and the situation is a lot worse in term of family relationship.

Because of lack of education institution, they don't get to learn to understand Holy Qur'an either. People with poor Emaan, don't fear God to commit haraam activities, for instance, corruption, black magic,...etc. You will find mostly in villages, and that's where our families live. Plus, marrying outside family invites wrath from families within through the magic unfortunately. We have suffered due to lack of family unity. I can't believe in my eyes that magic can be easily practice despite of living in Muslim nation. We are in trouble now. The dark magic is slowly taking over cities after villages. May Allaah protects Muslim from the haraam activities, Ameen!
 
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No disrespect to the OP, but believing in this stuff just makes the patient prone to making excuses and not tackling the root of their problems, which in this case are clearly repressed and deep-seated.

Avoid quackery, and seek psychological and existential therapy with a trained professional.

Personally, you haven't experienced it. To believe magic, you have to see it - to go out there especially in places where dark magic is practiced widely. I am speaking from the ground reality. These medicines can't be helpful because we are already told in Holy Qur'aan that only solution to dark magic is prayer to obtain positive spiritual feeling to encounter dark magic.

You are lucky that you don't have enemy who is expert of magic. Unfortunately, we can't say the same about our in Pakistan. ;(
 
No disrespect to the OP, but believing in this stuff just makes the patient prone to making excuses and not tackling the root of their problems, which in this case are clearly repressed and deep-seated.

Avoid quackery, and seek psychological and existential therapy with a trained professional.

In many cases (not saying it's the case for the OP) people look to blame magic/being possessed etc because it means the problem is external and easier to accept to the individual and their families. Mental illness is still a massive taboo within the Asian community and rather than accepting one is bi-polar or schizophrenic etc, they will blame something supernatural.
 
In many cases (not saying it's the case for the OP) people look to blame magic/being possessed etc because it means the problem is external and easier to accept to the individual and their families. Mental illness is still a massive taboo within the Asian community and rather than accepting one is bi-polar or schizophrenic etc, they will blame something supernatural.

It's easier for you to say, and yet, you are doing the same thing.

Have you ever been exposed to places where dark magic is practiced?

I don't know what will serve for blaming magic/being possessed rather than accept the fault? You make it sound like we are talking about unsuccessful people. Usually, it's people with wealth, or something they have, gets targeted by people who gives contract to person in expert of magic. People who are involved, are mostly unpar gawar with backward mentality taught - needed to be introduced to 21st century. However, dark magic is another weapon to utilize, and that being said, each person will always have enemy as much as friend.

Whether it's successful person, rich, and much more, are likely to be targeted big time, and also, exposed to the physical threats, for instance, kidnapping, bhatta...etc, you name it, are quite equivalent in the backward society.

I come from village where people who are derived of necessities and aren't content with world, in our case, in content with Allaah's grace, retort to tactics that are spiritually and physically harmful.

The solution is education to eradicate poverty, that being said, people with poor Emaan, for instance, jealousy, insecurities..etc, are likely to be exposed to weapon to utilize to meet their needs. Unfortunately, there is always bad apple in every nation, community, and in every family.

Look like you haven't been exposed to villages where dark magic is openly practiced. Perhaps, you have no clue what is happening. Dark magic is very powerful weapon, but can be negated only by positive spirituality obtained through prayers - to seek help from Allaah. That's why today's science has no clue to mental illness, depression and what not. There is solution to physical medical condition, but spiritually medical condition is in dire need - can be easily resolved by prayers, in our case, Islamic prayer - seeking help from Allaah (SWT).
 
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In many cases (not saying it's the case for the OP) people look to blame magic/being possessed etc because it means the problem is external and easier to accept to the individual and their families. Mental illness is still a massive taboo within the Asian community and rather than accepting one is bi-polar or schizophrenic etc, they will blame something supernatural.

Or it could be the other way round..maybe science has no explanation of some conditions and they assume mental illness/bi-polar etc? Who knows?
 
today's science has no clue to mental illness, depression and what not.

You are welcome to your religious beliefs, but don't make statements (like the above) which are simply not true.

I wouldn't have got involved in this thread, but my semi-decent understanding of the topic meant that I had to share something: that making excuses about superstitions and magic is but one symptom of the mental illness at hand. It is a known habit of schizophrenics in particular to attach any possible explanation or otherworldly delusion to the hallucinogenic worlds they occupy, short of actually coming to terms with their rupture.

Denial and lack of awareness have a significant part to play in any mental illness. That why I wouldn't wish for the OP to go on believing in witchcraft at his own expense.
 
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Or it could be the other way round..maybe science has no explanation of some conditions and they assume mental illness/bi-polar etc? Who knows?

Well Said.

I don't understand how can one person assume all this without having been exposed to ground reality. Seeing is believing is what will comfort them, and judging from sitting at home is not gonna help at all.
 
Or it could be the other way round..maybe science has no explanation of some conditions and they assume mental illness/bi-polar etc? Who knows?

Except there is an abundance of credible, objective, collated, academic, researched and empirical evidence for one, and anecdotal folk superstitions underlining the other.
 
You are welcome to your religious beliefs, but don't make statements (like the above) which are simply not true.

I wouldn't have got involved in this thread, but my semi-decent understanding of the topic meant that I had to share something: that making excuses about superstitions and magic is but one symptom of the mental illness at hand.[/I]

Denial and lack of awareness have a significant part to play in any mental illness. That why I wouldn't wish for the OP to go on believing in witchcraft at his own expense.


I have been exposed to those places, but have you? On what bases, you can assume all these? Those who have been to places, can easily testify that the dark magic is there. You need your eyes to see it there. Sitting at home is never gonna help at all.
 
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Well Said.

I don't understand how can one person assume all this without having been exposed to ground reality. Seeing is believing is what will comfort them, and judging from sitting at home is not gonna help at all.

'Ground reality'. That's a good one.

How much do you really know about psychology and mental illness? Any work experience, any relevant Qualifications, any charitable experience, any family members who have suffered? How many mental health wards, social care homes and unwell people have you entered, or invested time in?

It's disappointing to see in you a complete lack of knowledge and appreciation for what you are debating against.
 
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I have been exposed to those places, but have you? On what bases, you can assume all these? Those who have been to places, can easily testify that the dark magic is there. You need your eyes to see it there. Sitting at home is never gonna help at all.

Your poor assumptions and myopic views are making me feel quite personally insulted at this stage, given the events of my own professional, personal and family life, so I am withdrawing from this debate.
 
If black magic is such a potent force why does it only play out in family and social circles and only among believers. Why not in international politics. Why couldn't Bush or Obama or the head of CIA be made its victims. Will save lot of problems and avoid all the bloodshed.
 
Your poor assumptions and myopic views are making me feel quite personally insulted at this stage, given the events of my own professional, personal and family life, so I am withdrawing from this debate.

I have been exposed to those places where magic does practice, and apparently, that's definition of assumption. I am guessing it's better to assume without having been exposed to those places. You are not making any sense so far, and please, feel free to take off from the debate, and stick to assumption without ground reality experience. :facepalm:
 
If black magic is such a potent force why does it only play out in family and social circles and only among believers. Why not in international politics. Why couldn't Bush or Obama or the head of CIA be made its victims. Will save lot of problems and avoid all the bloodshed.

International wise, it's very popular now. Remember, secret society?
sacrifice of baby bloods,...etc? It is there in front of us, and yet, we can't do anything about it.
 
Mental illness and ailment is common in human beings and so occurs in every community. In the case of cash-poor or developing village and folk communities, the adequate healthcare, counselling and supervision is not available to sufferers and so their conditions deteriorate further. What is believed to be the effects of black magic to the untrained eye is therefore severe mental illness.
 
International wise, it's very popular now. Remember, secret society?
sacrifice of baby bloods,...etc? It is there in front of us, and yet, we can't do anything about it.

What drivel is this?
 
Except there is an abundance of credible, objective, collated, academic, researched and empirical evidence for one, and anecdotal folk superstitions underlining the other.

Mate, I have seen depressed, bi-polar, schizophrenic individuals...but also someone very close to me who was under the influence of posession/magic- believe me, there is a big difference in behaviour. Doctors could not figure out what was wrong- so much that they had to place this person in a mental hospital for a whole week without any diagnosis. I am born & bred in the UK- this view has nothing to do with lack of education or understanding, but from being a witness. However, I still respect your views.
 
International wise, it's very popular now. Remember, secret society?
sacrifice of baby bloods,...etc? It is there in front of us, and yet, we can't do anything about it.

Cute! Poor victims wouldn't even know what hit them. Which world events do you think have been the result of black magic.
 
Hussain I hope you can take this honest advice on board, by the way. I do feel slightly guilty about the patronising tone but blaming your problems on black magic will be unlikely to open the door to a solution. My family operates within this sector in the UK and we have various vested business interests, so if you would like some help getting in touch with genuine organisations, psychotherapists or counsellors let me know.
 
If black magic is such a potent force why does it only play out in family and social circles and only among believers. Why not in international politics. Why couldn't Bush or Obama or the head of CIA be made its victims. Will save lot of problems and avoid all the bloodshed.

Unfortunately, black magic is very commom in afghanistan. It is the easiest way to destroy another person's life without using violence or force. For black magic to work on someone, the person who is doing the magic needs access to the other person's belongings.

How many people have direct access to Obama, bush etc?

Alhumdulela i have never been affected but i have seen many people who have experienced it. Mental cases are different to jadoo etc but some people confuse that to being jadoo aswel. I have seen such case too (my close cousin).
 
What drivel is this?

There was documentary about it especially it was practiced secretly, and in many activities that are hugely disturbing. Google it. You are going to learn a lot about dark magic.

Cute! Poor victims wouldn't even know what hit them. Which world events do you think have been the result of black magic.

From magic to world event? You sure know how to stick to the topic.
 
That era will come unfortunately. It's not that far. Before that era comes, dark magic will be destroyed once and for all once the original source is taken care off, Allahu Alim! - Don't know how that will happen, but it is mentioned in Islamic Hadith that it will be destroyed after the return of Prophet Isa (PBUH) and Imam Mahdi (A.S). That's for another topic to debate on.

Perhaps, some are using and we will never know, and perhaps, that's why we don't understand what is happening in the world. Whether that practice is being utilized or not, but that practice does exist.
 
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Can I ask all those people who have claimed to suffer from or experienced black magic if they can share more details ( only if you are comfortable).

I find it a fascinating topic BUT I feel in our Asian culture people are very quick to blame things on jinn and nazr etc.
 
Unfortunately, black magic is very commom in afghanistan. It is the easiest way to destroy another person's life without using violence or force. For black magic to work on someone, the person who is doing the magic needs access to the other person's belongings.

How do you know this my friend? I ask not in a patronising way but out of general curiosity.
 
I have heard many cases of Black Magic being performed/done on a person,and often it is a jealous member of the family who does it.
 
Its most likely a mental illness.

I would strongly advise medical attention.


I have seen people go through the whole Jadoo loop before then going to the medical profession.

Medication then alleviates the symptoms. Different type of medicines work for different types of illnesses.
 
I would recommend an inspection by David Blaine. He is a very nice guy and will show you how "Jaddu" is really done :)
 
Its most likely a mental illness.

I would strongly advise medical attention.


I have seen people go through the whole Jadoo loop before then going to the medical profession.

Medication then alleviates the symptoms. Different type of medicines work for different types of illnesses.

This.
this whole jadoo stuff is BS ...no truth in it..
 
‘A Jew by the name of Labid ibn Asim who outwardly posed to be a believer (Munafiq) carried out black magic on the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace). He took the hair of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and made eleven knots and placed it under a rock in a well called Zarwan.

The effect of this was that it created uncertainty in the mind of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) as to whether he had done or not done certain things (although this had no effect on his religious and prophetic obligations)

At times the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) felt he had accomplished something yet he had not done so and vice versa. The angel Jibra’il informed the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) as to what had occurred and came down with the two Surahs, namely Surah al-Falaq and Surah an-Nas. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) together with the Companions (Allah be pleased with them all) went to the well and removed the knotted hair. As each verse was recited, the knots untied miraculously.

At the eleventh knot, the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) was relieved from the effects of this black magic.
 
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sorry mate but I simply refuse to believe in these things..I mean this is 21st century and we are still stuck in dark ages ..this jadoo wadoo is a way of tantriks to loot innocent people.

Fair enough, thats your opinion.
 
It's very believable that uneducated villagers and superstitious folkspeople would interpret a grand mal seizure as a religious or supernatural interpolation. Those things are frightening to witness even with prior knowledge. But ultimately they do have a rational explanation. Epilepsy is a disorder of the brain.
 
Originally Posted by James
Why only people from the subcontinent?

I know the main reason behind this. People from the subcontinent are suffering from a disease which is called "Jealousy". That's why they resort to such black magic stuff.
It is really strange...They can't show happiness for others.
 
I know the main reason behind this. People from the subcontinent are suffering from a disease which is called "Jealousy". That's why they resort to such black magic stuff.
It is really strange...They can't show happiness for others.

lol so true .
 
I know the main reason behind this. People from the subcontinent are suffering from a disease which is called "Jealousy". That's why they resort to such black magic stuff.
It is really strange...They can't show happiness for others.

From what I hear, everybody in the West adores each other and nobody ever gets ill due to things like insecurity, loneliness and social anxiety.
 
I know the main reason behind this. People from the subcontinent are suffering from a disease which is called "Jealousy". That's why they resort to such black magic stuff.
It is really strange...They can't show happiness for others.

Its got nothing to do with jealousy.

It's to do with how civilised u are.

The more backwards a nation the more frequent such stories are.

Just look at voodoo. (Do a Google search)

When people can't explain something, they resort to alternative explanations.

If this Jadoo stuff was do true how comes it only happens between families in villages?

Why hasnt (as some one put it) this Jadoo been done on the drone strikers?
 
‘A Jew by the name of Labid ibn Asim who outwardly posed to be a believer (Munafiq) carried out black magic on the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace). He took the hair of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and made eleven knots and placed it under a rock in a well called Zarwan.

The effect of this was that it created uncertainty in the mind of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) as to whether he had done or not done certain things (although this had no effect on his religious and prophetic obligations)

At times the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) felt he had accomplished something yet he had not done so and vice versa. The angel Jibra’il informed the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) as to what had occurred and came down with the two Surahs, namely Surah al-Falaq and Surah an-Nas. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) together with the Companions (Allah be pleased with them all) went to the well and removed the knotted hair. As each verse was recited, the knots untied miraculously.

At the eleventh knot, the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) was relieved from the effects of this black magic.

Source and proof?

He was utterly confused but it had no effect on his prophetic obligations?

Really?
 
How do you know this my friend? I ask not in a patronising way but out of general curiosity.

This has happened to few people i know. As someone else mentioned people who are jelouse of someone else and want to teach the other person a lesson or want the other person to suffer do such things.

Once they have got hold of anything that belongs to the other person, they perform black magic and either they keep it in secure location or hide it back in that person's place of residence.


Once the magic has been found out and is canceled , people must make sure not to tell anyone ( anyone i mean anyone, not even your close friend or family members) as if that person who did it finds out can renew it again!

if anyone has not experienced it, they wouldn't believe it and that is fair enough.
 
I find it a fascinating topic BUT I feel in our Asian culture people are very quick to blame things on jinn and nazr etc.

Exactly ! Some elders in a family say things like 'nazar na lag ja ay' and you laugh it off until your car breaks down or something...

It is a fascinating topic but I don't particularly believe in it. One explanation could be that a person who is supposed to jinx somehow foresee the event (via a 'sixth sense' for example) that is going to affect the victim of jinxing. The victim would assume that it was because the person jinxed him/her when infact its a coincidence. Some women and male elders go over the top with this stuff, they think some event has got to be jaadu or nazar.

Some people go to great lengths attempting to reverse the effects of these things by going to sayeen babas who are fraudsters and lose time, money, and their own peace of mind consequently.

These things like jaadu or nazar can't harm as much the harm you can do to yourself by trying to counter them in stupid ways like drinking potions or what have you. It may be a desi thing. If you go to Turkey for example they have these blue eyes in amulets because apparently it wards off evil eye. This happens in India too, a remnant of old customs.

There are a number of ways to avoid 'nazar'. Apparently other ways to break it is to dedicate some money on behalf of a child for example if he has it or sacrifice an animal such as a lamb and distribute it towards the needy and poor that it will aid or ward off any evil eye (nazar).

I once fell sick in Pakistan and my aunt banged on about nazar and insisted on rotating a piece of string around my head, then reciting Quranic verses and then burned the string outside to remove the 'nazar'. I agreed to this to give her peace of mind.

However when I went to the doctors there, there was a perfectly rational medical explanation, just a bad bout of food poisoning, no biggie, no evil spirits involved.

Like I said - people go to these clerics and soothsayers and end up losing a heck of a lot of money, and peace of mind as a result of all of it.

Gabbar Singh mentioned mental health being a taboo in Asian communities - you got it in one - bipolar, schizophrenia all lead to hallucinations and breakdowns which usually explain these episodes.
 
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No disrespect to the OP, but believing in this stuff just makes the patient prone to making excuses and not tackling the root of their problems, which in this case are clearly repressed and deep-seated.

Avoid quackery, and seek psychological and existential therapy with a trained professional.

This.

These are clear signs of mental illnesses, not demonic possessions. That stuff only happens in movies.
 
Oh man, even Markhor who is our finest poster might believe in it. We're all doomed.
 
Oh man, even Markhor who is our finest poster might believe in it. We're all doomed.

I don't believe in it. I think all this stuff is a cover for deep-lying psychological issues.

Now the word 'psychological' or 'mental' prompts reactions of horror especially amongst people in the subcontinent - you can be a perfectly normal human being, living a perfectly normal life and have a mental illness.

Yet some Asians think it means you have to be shipped off to a mental asylum - that is not the case.

There are complex genetic factors and medical reasons but due to lack of education, people blame these disorders on religious and cultural superstitions and end up getting conned by fraudsters.

Like I referred to, Asians go to such lengths - paying clerics and soothsayers at the cost of their peace of mind and their finances. Usually there's a rational medical explanation for these 'episodes'.

So I think this topic, whilst fascinating, can be greatly exaggerated by people who believe in it.
 
Can I ask all those people who have claimed to suffer from or experienced black magic if they can share more details ( only if you are comfortable).

I find it a fascinating topic BUT I feel in our Asian culture people are very quick to blame things on jinn and nazr etc.

Ditto please, i find this area (and Jinns) very fascinating tbh.

One thing ive always thought, (i dont know what to think in regards to how true this is etc) is the people doing the 'black magic'...what goes through their mind? Do they not know Allah is watching them, do they not know that their bad intentions (ie, doing it because the person married a girl that her son wanted to marry) are known to Allah? Same gos for those people who are directly doing it (the peers etc)...whats wrong with these people?
 
I was so so thin, like these Somalians in ads

after wearing the taveez for being healthy, I gained 25 kg in 10 months and I never changed my diet.

I swear people, I am not lying
 
I gained 25 kg in 10 months / and I never changed my diet.

Well first, those two parts of the statement cannot possibly both be true.

Also we all put on weight (if we don't work out) as we get older, that is natural.
 
that true, this is the effect of taveez

you might try it

BTW I do work out
 
I don't know man, if we say that's true then all these things like mood stones and protection gems are next.
 
I was so so thin, like these Somalians in ads

after wearing the taveez for being healthy, I gained 25 kg in 10 months and I never changed my diet.

I swear people, I am not lying

You must have changed something. It doesn't work like that.
 
yea true

people are blind

I suggest you watch OMG(with subtitles) a very good movie, how is this become a business in SC by fooling people with these type of magic
 
dont know about black magic..but i have seen something that i cannot explain...whenever i have hated someone, something really bad has happened to that person...might be all unrelated..but because of this i feel guilty and whenever i get negative feelings about someone i change my thoughts and wish the person well...maybe there is some black energy in me..
 
I'm going to be even nicer to Gentleman from now on #EvilEye
 
dont know about black magic..but i have seen something that i cannot explain...whenever i have hated someone, something really bad has happened to that person...might be all unrelated..but because of this i feel guilty and whenever i get negative feelings about someone i change my thoughts and wish the person well...maybe there is some black energy in me..

You are a djinn :jf

Do you eat bones ? :D
 
Interesting thread. Here's a question to both sides, can the two (black magic AND medical explanations) co-exist?
 
Ditto please, i find this area (and Jinns) very fascinating tbh.

One thing ive always thought, (i dont know what to think in regards to how true this is etc) is the people doing the 'black magic'...what goes through their mind? Do they not know Allah is watching them, do they not know that their bad intentions (ie, doing it because the person married a girl that her son wanted to marry) are known to Allah? Same gos for those people who are directly doing it (the peers etc)...whats wrong with these people?

That is a question I have been thinking about too, Mohsin. But then isn't it the same as any other sin. We miss fajr sleeping, or people taking bribes, or cheating in exams / and in life by betraying trust, disobedience to the parents who cared for you all this time -- we know Allah is watching then why are we doing it?

Its true that this is very popular in Sub Continent [in Bangladesh some times you will find news paper ads of people claiming they can break the curse :facepalm:].

I wish this wasn't true but it is. I do not know if giving the link to another forum is allowed but check this thread out. Kinda creepy though :42:

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?84592-Some-photos-of-talisman-taweez-wafaq-etc
 
You are a djinn :jf

Do you eat bones ? :D

maybe it is something i invented to make myself feel important..i dont know..but have been seeing this happening around me since childhood..all the people i hated had very tragic things happening to them..that made me feel guilty later..so one day i sat down and forgave everyone and i consciously try not to think bad about anyone... even the girl who did not marry me knows this and she would always ask me to pray for her happiness even though she is from another religion..it is bit of a challenge to overcome your jealousy about someone and wish them happiness from your heart..i dont want to live with more guilt that i am already carrying..
 
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