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Are Muslims to blame for the rise in Islamophobia?

Are Muslims to blame for the rise in Islamophobia?


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Majority of the reverts to Islam in the UK are women btw https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...the-rise-and-rise-of-the-convert-6258015.html

This is well known by Muslims. I am telling you this because that seems to be your main question regarding Islam right? The fairness toward women?
Brainwashing perhaps??

The Love-jihad stereotype is there for nothing right? At least this has been the trend in India.

A religion where men can marry 4 wives and can divorce her by saying Talaaq thrice? Is the fair rights to women?
 
Brainwashing perhaps??

The Love-jihad stereotype is there for nothing right? At least this has been the trend in India.

A religion where men can marry 4 wives and can divorce her by saying Talaaq thrice? Is the fair rights to women?
It’s not as simple as just being able to have 4 wives though is it? There are rules and regulations! How many Muslim men do you know that have 4 wives?
 
Brainwashing perhaps??

The Love-jihad stereotype is there for nothing right? At least this has been the trend in India.

A religion where men can marry 4 wives and can divorce her by saying Talaaq thrice? Is the fair rights to women?
When you receive a logical answer…you then switch to ‘brainwashing’. Wah
 
The same applies for PPers who open a dozen threads on bashing India on a daily basis.

Back your claim that India is rape capital of the world. India obviously has the number given its population but rape per capita is similar to Pakistan. Infact, the numbers can be silly, when the cases are not as reported compared to Western world.

Look at the Women, Peace and security Index.


Pakistan ranks the worst in Asia. Be it safety, inclusion, financial security on every aspect. Instead of blanket statements, at-least back it up.


I dont have any hatred towards Islam. It has issues as with other religions. And my view is that, it restricts women and either has some verses which promote extremism / or the Islamic scholars misinterpret it for their benefits (And I agree its not limited to Islam, just stating my view).
I have met some of the kind hearted muslims thankfully in my life as friends / colleagues unlike some PPers here who spew hatred non-stop. So, we have to look at both sides of the coin.

India is so diverse that people culture changes from state to state. People from Delhi can be more aggressive while down South, we let our work do the talking. I am happy to let you decide how you can quantify meekness, but I can point out leadership quality as a metric.

India-origin people have joined management boards more often than Pakistanis. Indian origin CEOs lead 10% of Fortune 500 companies.


Our favorite sport cricket, who does appear as meek? India cricketers or Pakistani cricketers?

Leave that. Look at Asim Munir lapping up Trump to nominate Noble peace prize. I mean seriously? Trump?? And Asim Munir is a macho person for this?

These meekness / machoness conversations are for stone age people. Let your work do the talking.
Islam restricts women? Where did you hear/read this?

This is one of the biggest misconceptions. No Islam does not oppress women….oppression comes from culture, politics, or individuals, not from the faith itself. The Quran says men and women are equal.

Muslim women were given the right to own property, run businesses, and keep their earnings — over 1,400 years ago, long before women in Europe had similar rights.

Women have the right to accept or refuse marriage proposals, set conditions in marriage contracts, and seek divorce.

Muslim women are guaranteed a share of inheritance — again, revolutionary compared to many societies of that time.

Where does the idea of oppression come from? Cultural practices: In some countries, harmful traditions (forced marriage, restrictions on education, etc.) are wrongly justified in the name of religion. But these are cultural, not Islamic.

Media focus: News often highlights extreme cases in countries with poor human rights, giving the impression that this represents Islam everywhere.

Patriarchal misuse: Like in many religions, some men have misused religious texts to control women. That reflects their attitudes, not the actual teachings.
 
I personally developed Islamophobia because of Muslim societies and their extremism against non-Muslims, so I'll agree with the thread title.
 
Talking about extremism and has a photo of an extremist in your bio
Modi Ji personally is pro-Bharat which includes Muslims too. But yes, the former organization he was affiliated to does have a hatred for Muslims.

I am happy that Modi Ji grew out of it with time and made friends with the Muslim world like no Bhartiya leader before.
 
It’s not as simple as just being able to have 4 wives though is it? There are rules and regulations! How many Muslim men do you know that have 4 wives?
Context is lost on some, particularly those with agendas…. Deliberate or otherwise.
 
Modi Ji personally is pro-Bharat which includes Muslims too. But yes, the former organization he was affiliated to does have a hatred for Muslims.

I am happy that Modi Ji grew out of it with time and made friends with the Muslim world like no Bhartiya leader before.
mutually convenient ‘friendship’. Those friendships are not for the sake of it..
 
Context is lost on some, particularly those with agendas…. Deliberate or otherwise.
Exactly. They hear and read anti Islamic sentiments without using their own brains and doing a little research on the subject. Or maybe they just don’t want to and have an agenda like you say.
 
SHAMEFUL! A 31-year-old man named Rashid repeatedly raped and blackmailed an 11-year-old minor girl.

After being repeatedly RAPED, the minor girl gave BIRTH to a premature baby.

The baby DIED within minutes.

Do such monsters deserve to live in a civil society?

Such criminals should be given DEATH Penalty asap.

Monstrous for sure. But what has this got to with Islamophobia?
 
SHAMEFUL! A 31-year-old man named Rashid repeatedly raped and blackmailed an 11-year-old minor girl.

After being repeatedly RAPED, the minor girl gave BIRTH to a premature baby.

The baby DIED within minutes.

Do such monsters deserve to live in a civil society?

Such criminals should be given DEATH Penalty asap.



Seems to be a common theme in India.



Bharuch:
A 10-month-old girl was raped by a 30-year-old man in Gujarat's Bharuch on Sunday, police said. The incident took place in Panoli village when the accused took the baby away when she was playing in the courtyard of her house.

The accused, identified as Deepak Kumar Lalbabu Singh, sexually assaulted the infant while taking her to his home, Deputy Superintendent of Police Kushal Oza said.
 
Seems to be a common theme in India.



Bharuch:
A 10-month-old girl was raped by a 30-year-old man in Gujarat's Bharuch on Sunday, police said. The incident took place in Panoli village when the accused took the baby away when she was playing in the courtyard of her house.

The accused, identified as Deepak Kumar Lalbabu Singh, sexually assaulted the infant while taking her to his home, Deputy Superintendent of Police Kushal Oza said.
So basically, your response is whataboutery

:salute
 
Again what does that incident have to do with Islamophobia or Islam?

If you are not able to understand it then no point in me explaining it. The chances are you will still not understand and I will just waste my time.
 
As per Indian Racism thread Indians are responsible so guess similar logic over here?
 
A respectable act by radical Islamists in Kashmir.

No matter how much you do for these ungrateful animals they will never change their mentality of hostility towards other cultures. They will remain Anti National wherever they go.

The only thing these people are loyal to is constant bigotry and hate for other cultures.


 
As per Indian Racism thread Indians are responsible so guess similar logic over here?

Difference is we Muslims condemn when our kind do bad things. We condemn Al-Qaeda, ISIS etc.

Indians defend or resort to whataboutism when their kind do bad things.

That's the difference. :inti
 
Difference is we Muslims condemn when our kind do bad things. We condemn Al-Qaeda, ISIS etc.

Indians defend or resort to whataboutism when their kind do bad things.

That's the difference. :inti
Not sure how is that relevant to this thread? U r saying Muslims aren’t responsible for Islamophobia like Indians are for racism because a couple of Liberal Muslims condemn Al Qaeda?
Liberal Hindus condemn right wing Hindutva too.

Good try though but keep at the gymnastics
 
A respectable act by radical Islamists in Kashmir.

No matter how much you do for these ungrateful animals they will never change their mentality of hostility towards other cultures. They will remain Anti National wherever they go.

The only thing these people are loyal to is constant bigotry and hate for other cultures.


The blame lies with us for expecting subhumans to behave like humans.
 
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When you receive a logical answer…you then switch to ‘brainwashing’. Wah
Logical answer??

  • Fertility Rate: Highest among Muslims (3.1 children per woman), followed by Christians (2.7), Hindus (2.3), and the unaffiliated (1.7). Buddhists had the lowest fertility rate (1.6).

Muslims has by the highest fertility rate. Yet, they have some of the lowest economic development.

This claim of fastest growing religion is such a false notion. Breeding higher than other religions is nothing to brag about when countries are getting poorer right?

I am not being sarcastic but having 5-6 kids when you cant feed them and claim “Allah (PBUH) ne diya” is wrong.


50% of muslims live in poverty in UK vs 18% overall population. That almost ~3X rate. One of the major reason? Having too many mouths to feed.

Posting one article on religious people growth and asking for logic? Cant say anymore.

As the topic has become on women inequality, Pakistan is the worst performing based on gender equality



Islamic theocracies are by default doing poorly. Its a WEF data. Does this stat seem logical?
 

Who are these imams to dictate what should be sold in another country?

Allowing pests like these is whats fueling Islamophobia.

I mean there are 10s of threads about beef bans in India here. Does this logic apply here?


They are just partaking in their American right of protest, they are not demanding anything. Personally I think it's a dumb way to carry on, but I think that of most placard waving protestors. That is just part of being a free society though. Maybe as an immigrant you don't realise that people don't have to be bootlicking second class citizens in the west.
 
they are not demanding anything.
They are demanding to stop selling alcohol and pork in their areas. What are you on about? “Stop selling alcohol and pork. We should live what Allah loved and hate what Allah hates” is the literal sentence he used. It is a demand if he is asking to stop some products business.


“You have 30 days to stop selling those products” definitely sounds like a threat.
Maybe as an immigrant you don't realise that people don't have to be bootlicking second class citizens in the west.
I am not an immigrant and live in India. I 100% agree that we dont have to be the bootlicking second class. I also 100% dont agree that pests like these can create nuisance. Imagine you are a businessman and some religious person is using his influence to stop his products? One can understand of an education type scenario when they start talking about addiction and all.

His clear motive was driving religious principles. You can practice your own but using your own influence as a “religious scholar” to harm other muslims business?? I am sure you can understand the community shaming and the indirect threats right?
Is this the religious machoism from the Islamists?
 
They are demanding to stop selling alcohol and pork in their areas. What are you on about? “Stop selling alcohol and pork. We should live what Allah loved and hate what Allah hates” is the literal sentence he used. It is a demand if he is asking to stop some products business.


“You have 30 days to stop selling those products” definitely sounds like a threat.

I am not an immigrant and live in India. I 100% agree that we dont have to be the bootlicking second class. I also 100% dont agree that pests like these can create nuisance. Imagine you are a businessman and some religious person is using his influence to stop his products? One can understand of an education type scenario when they start talking about addiction and all.

His clear motive was driving religious principles. You can practice your own but using your own influence as a “religious scholar” to harm other muslims business?? I am sure you can understand the community shaming and the indirect threats right?
Is this the religious machoism from the Islamists?
You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with Muslims.

I have noticed that thread to thread, you are posting the same nonsense arguments.

What the difference between what this man is doing, and some Christian preacher talking about abortion, or Hindus twerking over beef in India? Yet you seem to find these random videos and have an unhealthy fixation on Muslims.

You should come clean with your intentions.
 
@moderators please edit this post, I never have felt the urge to ask for a post to be edited - But we just cannot have black americans, called worms and disease carrying insects just based on their skin colour. The implication is that because they are black they are dirty and because they are black they cannot possibly be Americans ( a very racist and ignorant position).

Ultimately this is a cricket forum and we may have black fans or forum members viewing these threads and it gives a bad impression of the website.

@The Bald Eagle @BouncerGuy
 
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Logical answer??

  • Fertility Rate: Highest among Muslims (3.1 children per woman), followed by Christians (2.7), Hindus (2.3), and the unaffiliated (1.7). Buddhists had the lowest fertility rate (1.6).

Muslims has by the highest fertility rate. Yet, they have some of the lowest economic development.

This claim of fastest growing religion is such a false notion. Breeding higher than other religions is nothing to brag about when countries are getting poorer right?

I am not being sarcastic but having 5-6 kids when you cant feed them and claim “Allah (PBUH) ne diya” is wrong.


50% of muslims live in poverty in UK vs 18% overall population. That almost ~3X rate. One of the major reason? Having too many mouths to feed.

Posting one article on religious people growth and asking for logic? Cant say anymore.

As the topic has become on women inequality, Pakistan is the worst performing based on gender equality



Islamic theocracies are by default doing poorly. Its a WEF data. Does this stat seem logical?
Stats are good and that…can see you are obsessed with Islam/Muslims

But is this the cause of Islamophobia?
 
@moderators please edit this post, I never have felt the urge to ask for a post to be edited - But we just cannot have black americans, called worms and disease carrying insects just based on their skin colour. The implication is that because they are black they are dirty and because they are black they cannot possibly be Americans ( a very racist and ignorant position).

Ultimately this is a cricket forum and we may have black fans or forum members viewing these threads and it gives a bad impression of the website.

@The Bald Eagle @BouncerGuy
More such racist posts, can lead to account ban, please note all.
 
You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with Muslims.

I have noticed that thread to thread, you are posting the same nonsense arguments.

What the difference between what this man is doing, and some Christian preacher talking about abortion, or Hindus twerking over beef in India? Yet you seem to find these random videos and have an unhealthy fixation on Muslims.

You should come clean with your intentions.
Well. Shall we count how many threads were started by you on India vs how many did i start on Islam?

Its not even remotely close. I usually try to post arguments backed by data unlike you who hide under some sarcastic nonsense.

I was getting to the same point on beef ban vs alcohol ban. People here complain on beef ban in India but when it comes to implementing pork ban in schools or alcohol ban in muslim regions, its all about religious rights. Such double standards.
 
Well. Shall we count how many threads were started by you on India vs how many did i start on Islam?

Its not even remotely close. I usually try to post arguments backed by data unlike you who hide under some sarcastic nonsense.

I was getting to the same point on beef ban vs alcohol ban. People here complain on beef ban in India but when it comes to implementing pork ban in schools or alcohol ban in muslim regions, its all about religious rights. Such double standards.
You can count all the threads if you like.

I am not making threads about Nepali Hindus, or Indonesian, or random Hindus in west, so there is no parallel between you and I.

You have found random videos of some native blacks in America and sharing here on some weird rant like such people don't exist in all country. Or were you also racist like @Hitman and thought black means dirty and immigrant?

As I said. You should make your stance clear. What is your reason behind these posts?
 
You can count all the threads if you like.

I am not making threads about Nepali Hindus, or Indonesian, or random Hindus in west, so there is no parallel between you and I.

You have found random videos of some native blacks in America and sharing here on some weird rant like such people don't exist in all country. Or were you also racist like @Hitman and thought black means dirty and immigrant?

As I said. You should make your stance clear. What is your reason behind these posts?

Well ever since your revelations about the ancient kingdom, @Hitman has quietened down :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

I suppose someone else has to take up the baton, this numb nut is the one for now.
 
They are demanding to stop selling alcohol and pork in their areas. What are you on about? “Stop selling alcohol and pork. We should live what Allah loved and hate what Allah hates” is the literal sentence he used. It is a demand if he is asking to stop some products business.


“You have 30 days to stop selling those products” definitely sounds like a threat.

I am not an immigrant and live in India. I 100% agree that we dont have to be the bootlicking second class. I also 100% dont agree that pests like these can create nuisance. Imagine you are a businessman and some religious person is using his influence to stop his products? One can understand of an education type scenario when they start talking about addiction and all.

His clear motive was driving religious principles. You can practice your own but using your own influence as a “religious scholar” to harm other muslims business?? I am sure you can understand the community shaming and the indirect threats right?
Is this the religious machoism from the Islamists?


Are they breaking the law? If so then they should be arrested and charged. I would have no problem with it, as I already said I am not a fan of placard waving protestors. But the problem is the protest culture in the USA, these guys are just showing they are well integrated by doing protests like happens regularly in that country.

For you maybe the problem isn't the protests, it is that the ones doing it are Muslims. You know what they say fella. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
 
Well. Shall we count how many threads were started by you on India vs how many did i start on Islam?

Its not even remotely close. I usually try to post arguments backed by data unlike you who hide under some sarcastic nonsense.

I was getting to the same point on beef ban vs alcohol ban. People here complain on beef ban in India but when it comes to implementing pork ban in schools or alcohol ban in muslim regions, its all about religious rights. Such double standards.
@DeadlyVenom more and more people now calling you out bro. Maybe time for you to introspect and realize what I was saying is right.

Else, allow other posters to share their views as well and not run behind mods like you have done on post #350

I mean if you can dish out, learn to take it as well na?

I may be here or maybe not tomorrow but this hypocrisy is now glaring for all to see

:kp
 
@DeadlyVenom more and more people now calling you out bro. Maybe time for you to introspect and realize what I was saying is right.

Else, allow other posters to share their views as well and not run behind mods like you have done on post #350

I mean if you can dish out, learn to take it as well na?

I may be here or maybe not tomorrow but this hypocrisy is now glaring for all to see

:kp
Interesting that you feel more offended by my requesting the moderators to clean up a shockingly racist post than the racism in the post itself.

Don't care what you say - if I see black people called worms and diseased carrying them I will ask mods to edit it.

If you and Hitman want to share those views without being called out I suggest you find somewhere else to do it. Most decent people wouldn't stand for it. I would suggest not expressing it in UK as you will be arrested.
 
Interesting that you feel more offended by my requesting the moderators to clean up a shockingly racist post than the racism in the post itself.

Don't care what you say - if I see black people called worms and diseased carrying them I will ask mods to edit it.

If you and Hitman want to share those views without being called out I suggest you find somewhere else to do it. Most decent people wouldn't stand for it. I would suggest not expressing it in UK as you will be arrested.


Don't be too harsh on them DV bro, these people like to think of themselves as better integrated than British Pakistanis, but when they are prodded a little bit, all of the latent subcontinental racism comes out. No real Brit would ever tolerate such abusive terms applied across the board to an ethnicity. These are the rants of poorly assimilated immigrants. The only blessing here is that they would not openly express these thoughts in real life, definitely not to a black man's face.
 
Interesting that you feel more offended by my requesting the moderators to clean up a shockingly racist post than the racism in the post itself.

Don't care what you say - if I see black people called worms and diseased carrying them I will ask mods to edit it.

If you and Hitman want to share those views without being called out I suggest you find somewhere else to do it. Most decent people wouldn't stand for it. I would suggest not expressing it in UK as you will be arrested.
How is it different from calling Indians as bootlickers?

Not saying you said it but you didnt object to it either

:virat
 
How is it different from calling Indians as bootlickers?

Not saying you said it but you didnt object to it either

:virat
There is a clear difference. if you can't see it yourself then i don't think any explanation will help you either.
 
Don't be too harsh on them DV bro, these people like to think of themselves as better integrated than British Pakistanis, but when they are prodded a little bit, all of the latent subcontinental racism comes out. No real Brit would ever tolerate such abusive terms applied across the board to an ethnicity. These are the rants of poorly assimilated immigrants. The only blessing here is that they would not openly express these thoughts in real life, definitely not to a black man's face.
Yes, agreed, just thought it reflected poorly on the forum if not noticed by mods. Thankfully, it was deleted.
 
Interesting that you feel more offended by my requesting the moderators to clean up a shockingly racist post than the racism in the post itself.

Don't care what you say - if I see black people called worms and diseased carrying them I will ask mods to edit it.

If you and Hitman want to share those views without being called out I suggest you find somewhere else to do it. Most decent people wouldn't stand for it. I would suggest not expressing it in UK as you will be arrested.

I am astonished how entitled these sanghis are. They are coming to a Pakistani platform (a country they hate) and demanding Pakistanis how to do things.

Not just arrest but probably a beating also before that. :inti

I admire Pakistani tolerance of these sanghis on a Pakistani platform. You guys tolerate a lot here. They try to behave like this on Bangladeshi platforms too but we are not as tolerant.
 
There is a clear difference. if you can't see it yourself then i don't think any explanation will help you either.
What is the difference? I think calling blacks as worms and Hindus as bootlickers are both offensive. You find racist in one but not in another is surprising. You can get arrested for both actually in UK.
 
Interesting that you feel more offended by my requesting the moderators to clean up a shockingly racist post than the racism in the post itself.

Don't care what you say - if I see black people called worms and diseased carrying them I will ask mods to edit it.

If you and Hitman want to share those views without being called out I suggest you find somewhere else to do it. Most decent people wouldn't stand for it. I would suggest not expressing it in UK as you will be arrested.

Who called black people worms and why ? Fill me in plz.
 
Interesting that you feel more offended by my requesting the moderators to clean up a shockingly racist post than the racism in the post itself.

Don't care what you say - if I see black people called worms and diseased carrying them I will ask mods to edit it.

If you and Hitman want to share those views without being called out I suggest you find somewhere else to do it. Most decent people wouldn't stand for it. I would suggest not expressing it in UK as you will be arrested.
Garbage! I never spoke of black people. I was referring to that loudmouth Imaam demanding pork and alcohol to be banned in America.​
 
Garbage! I never spoke of black people. I was referring to that loudmouth Imaam demanding pork and alcohol to be banned in America.​
Yeah brother @DeadlyVenom who is otherwise a sensible person has lost his senses a bit today.

On topic, Muslims are 100% responsible for Islamophobia all around the world. Every non Muslim shares similar opinion.
 
Garbage! I never spoke of black people. I was referring to that loudmouth Imaam demanding pork and alcohol to be banned in America.​
The post was very clearly racist.

Why does him being loud mouth concern you so much sitting in India? He is black American with 400+ years of heritage in America peacefully protesting in his community.

Yet you said he was a diseased animal and worm who have "moved" there.

Frankly, it was one of the most disgusting posts ever witnessed on these forums.
 
Yeah brother @DeadlyVenom who is otherwise a sensible person has lost his senses a bit today.

On topic, Muslims are 100% responsible for Islamophobia all around the world. Every non Muslim shares similar opinion.
How did black people even come into the picture? A poster referred to a post from X where an Imaam was demanding pork and alcohol to be banned in America. I merely referred to that Imaam.

So where do black people come into the picture?​
 
Yeah brother @DeadlyVenom who is otherwise a sensible person has lost his senses a bit today.

On topic, Muslims are 100% responsible for Islamophobia all around the world. Every non Muslim shares similar opinion.

Every non Muslim does not share that opinion, this shows a clear lack of critical thinking. You have spent too long in the hindutva echo chambers to make a sensible judgement on this. Even making such a statement shows a clear bias against Muslims as you are presuming the non-Muslims must be correct if they agree on something.
 
How exactly do you know?

It seems you want to find some excuses for your racism :ROFLMAO:

It's not my job to educate you on social issues. Leave your basement and go and observe the world. But make sure you don't use your filthy language in public. You will get arrested.
 
Brainwashing perhaps??

The Love-jihad stereotype is there for nothing right? At least this has been the trend in India.

A religion where men can marry 4 wives and can divorce her by saying Talaaq thrice? Is the fair rights to women?
Look at your beloved western nations. How many men have mistresses that they can leave at any point, sometimes more than 4, leaving single moms in their wake.

And you’re worried about Islamic marriages where the man has to take full responsibility financially and otherwise for 4 women maximum, no private under the carpet affairs….

But if women want to revert to Islam then they are brainwashed, even in the west? Lol. Exposed yourself there.

I would say love jihad is more of an attempt in India to malign Islam since apparently it only goes on there
 
Brainwashing perhaps??

The Love-jihad stereotype is there for nothing right? At least this has been the trend in India.

A religion where men can marry 4 wives and can divorce her by saying Talaaq thrice? Is the fair rights to women?
Also you’re exposing your severe lack of knowledge in Islamic law following mainly sensationalized accounts… giving talaq like that Willy Nilly is frowned upon and has consequences for the man doing it but please tell me how it goes in your ivory tower in the west where divorce rates soar at 50%+
 
It seems you want to find some excuses for your racism :ROFLMAO:

It's not my job to educate you on social issues. Leave your basement and go and observe the world. But make sure you don't use your filthy language in public. You will get arrested.

Not just arrested but probably beaten too.

Just ask that Indian student who got hospitalized in Australia. :inti

These racist sanghis can dish it out but can't take it.
 
Look at your beloved western nations. How many men have mistresses that they can leave at any point, sometimes more than 4, leaving single moms in their wake.

And you’re worried about Islamic marriages where the man has to take full responsibility financially and otherwise for 4 women maximum, no private under the carpet affairs….
And the solution for that is to let men have 4 wives legally? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
I personally developed Islamophobia because of Muslim societies and their extremism against non-Muslims, so I'll agree with the thread title.
I personally developed Hinduphobia because of extremist Hindus that go around forcing Muslims to chant their slogans..extremist Hindus lynch anyone that consumes beef…etc etc
 
You can count all the threads if you like.

I am not making threads about Nepali Hindus, or Indonesian, or random Hindus in west, so there is no parallel between you and I.

You have found random videos of some native blacks in America and sharing here on some weird rant like such people don't exist in all country. Or were you also racist like @Hitman and thought black means dirty and immigrant?

As I said. You should make your stance clear. What is your reason behind these posts?
Why are there no parallels?
You constantly post negative against India and demean Hindu religion. Dig up your posts on beef ban threads and many a times your sarcastic remarks crossed limits. We all know your intentions and there is no need for you to be clear on your stance as its out in the open. Its the same with me.

Random videos?
This thread is about Islamophobia. And muslims irritating people by randomly praying on roads, talking about implementing Sharia law, haraam products when it stops other people’s business is exactly why Islamophobia exists. I think its relevant and posted this.
Still better than your whole BS thread on “Why me…” thread on Indians right?
 
Look at your beloved western nations. How many men have mistresses that they can leave at any point, sometimes more than 4, leaving single moms in their wake.

And you’re worried about Islamic marriages where the man has to take full responsibility financially and otherwise for 4 women maximum, no private under the carpet affairs….

But if women want to revert to Islam then they are brainwashed, even in the west? Lol. Exposed yourself there.

I would say love jihad is more of an attempt in India to malign Islam since apparently it only goes on there

Look at your beloved western nations. How many men have mistresses that they can leave at any point, sometimes more than 4, leaving single moms in their wake.

And you’re worried about Islamic marriages where the man has to take full responsibility financially and otherwise for 4 women maximum, no private under the carpet affairs….

But if women want to revert to Islam then they are brainwashed, even in the west? Lol. Exposed yourself there.

I would say love jihad is more of an attempt in India to malign Islam since apparently it only goes on there
I am least concerned about Western nations. In India, we have a personal law for Muslims and issues like Triple talaaq were at the forefront causing severe human rights issues for Muslim women.


“The practice has rendered hundreds of Muslim women homeless, forced out of their matrimonial homes overnight, with many learning that they have been divorced from relatives, by phone or even by a text message. A recent study found that 79 percent of women divorced through “triple talaq” did not receive any maintenance from their former husbands. Despite the Supreme Court having declared the practice void in August last year, activists on the ground confirm that it continues unabated.”
Men can marry multiple women but women cannot marry multiple men in Islam. Why is it? Are the women rights not equal to women? And celebrities even in Pakistan come up on TV shows saying they are doing a favor to their wife by not marrying others even if Islam allows them.

See, I dont have issues if women want to live that way. But what is farcical here is people claiming Islam to be the bastion of women’s rights when so they have so many restrictive policies towards women.

There is a reason why Saudi and even developed Muslim nations rank well below in Women equality rights with Pakistan ranking at the bottom.


Its not me claiming women's rights are bad, but a reliable global survey by WEF. Now, because its not favorable to Islam, you want to blame the West for the standards?
 
I am least concerned about Western nations. In India, we have a personal law for Muslims and issues like Triple talaaq were at the forefront causing severe human rights issues for Muslim women.


“The practice has rendered hundreds of Muslim women homeless, forced out of their matrimonial homes overnight, with many learning that they have been divorced from relatives, by phone or even by a text message. A recent study found that 79 percent of women divorced through “triple talaq” did not receive any maintenance from their former husbands. Despite the Supreme Court having declared the practice void in August last year, activists on the ground confirm that it continues unabated.”
Men can marry multiple women but women cannot marry multiple men in Islam. Why is it? Are the women rights not equal to women? And celebrities even in Pakistan come up on TV shows saying they are doing a favor to their wife by not marrying others even if Islam allows them.

See, I dont have issues if women want to live that way. But what is farcical here is people claiming Islam to be the bastion of women’s rights when so they have so many restrictive policies towards women.

There is a reason why Saudi and even developed Muslim nations rank well below in Women equality rights with Pakistan ranking at the bottom.


Its not me claiming women's rights are bad, but a reliable global survey by WEF. Now, because its not favorable to Islam, you want to blame the West for the standards?
Islam is perfect. Muslim are human and thus fallible to faults and trying to take advantage of rulings at times. Not all, but few.

However, these same westerners who you peddle as the champions of women’s rights have some of the worst conditions for women despite being first world economies. Women either cheating or being left in the wake of one night stands and affairs being single mothers to an entire 1-5 pack of kids with the man walking out after some fun. Not to mention eroding family values and sky high divorce rates in the west as is.

So yes, pardon me if I don’t take the west seriously on this issue.
 
Also you’re exposing your severe lack of knowledge in Islamic law following mainly sensationalized accounts… giving talaq like that Willy Nilly is frowned upon and has consequences for the man doing it but please tell me how it goes in your ivory tower in the west where divorce rates soar at 50%+
Agree that I lack knowledge about Islamic law. Hence, I am asking the questions.

If you equalize the societal stigma and pressure around divorced women among Western nations vs sub-continent, I don't know what to say. Divorced women are certainly frowned up here compared to the West.

But certainly, women sharing husband with 3 others, may your perspective is different but it doesn't sound like women empowerment or having decent women rights by any stretch.

Its one thing that women in Islam may do it willingly. But its also another thing that it is oppressive for a non-muslim.

It is in-fact funny that 24 countries have to ban face veils yet, somehow it is empowering to women by some logic.

“At least 24 countries have placed some restrictions around the wearing of full-face coverings in public, although in most cases it applies only in public buildings.”


 
Islam is perfect. Muslim are human and thus fallible to faults and trying to take advantage of rulings at times. Not all, but few.

However, these same westerners who you peddle as the champions of women’s rights have some of the worst conditions for women despite being first world economies. Women either cheating or being left in the wake of one night stands and affairs being single mothers to an entire 1-5 pack of kids with the man walking out after some fun. Not to mention eroding family values and sky high divorce rates in the west as is.

So yes, pardon me if I don’t take the west seriously on this issue.
“Islam is perfect” - May for you as a Muslim but one can ask questions right? There is no other religion as much discussed on women’s rights due to restrictive laws on women, as much feared upon as its name was used on violence than any other religion in the world. So, it doesn't sound perfect by any stretch for a non-muslim.

I am not putting Western societies on a pedal but will give it to them for women’s rights.

Yes, marriages have issues and all. But that doesn't mean, you create a system and force others free-will to null.

Lack of Financial independence is one of the reason for women staying in unhappy marriages and once that does, divorce rates will grow. Its not a case from elsewhere but from Pakistan.


My understanding is that, the restrictive stance towards women is creating lack of gender equality in Muslim nations, and rules like allowing 4 wives, face veils, a guideline to punishing women etc in Islam are further exacerbating it.

You equate wives cheating, 1 night stands and divorce rates due to having women right? There is a negative culture going on that hurts families. But, that doesn't mean its due to having women's rights. What is your inference here that you are getting into? These restrictive laws for women is better?

Or do you think that men don't cheat as they can have up to 4 wives in Islam?
 
It's literally a handful of of people waving placards and one guy with a megaphone. If anything that shows they are well integrated in texas which is the home of redneck marches and protests. Probably lynchings too.
When get caught with pants down...bring the excuse of handful of people.

:misbah
 
When get caught with pants down...bring the excuse of handful of people.

:misbah

Says a lot that you couldn't address what I said and had to resort to silly personal comments...which I don't mind, but you obviously couldn't aswer the central point which was it was literally a handful of people in a state where redneck protests are ten a penny.
 
French police suspect that people who put pigs' heads outside Paris mosques on Monday night were acting under orders from a foreign intelligence service, probably Russian

The heads were found on Tuesday morning outside nine mosques in central Paris and surrounding suburbs, prompting a wave of outrage and condemnation.

But investigators have now said the two people involved drove a Serb-registered car, used a Croatian mobile telephone, and crossed into Belgium a few hours later.

The incident has striking similarities with other recent provocations – notably the daubing of Stars of David on Paris walls in October 2023, and the painting of red hands on the city's Holocaust memorial in May 2024.

Police identified a Moldovan connection in the first case, and in the second four Bulgarians are due to stand trial in October.

The prosecutor in the red hands affair said it appeared "to be an attempt to destabilise France orchestrated by Russian intelligence".

Russia and Iran have both been named by French intelligence as countries liable to provoke dissension in France through "dirty tricks".

Police investigating the latest affair told media that they were approached by a Normandy farmer who said he had sold "about 10" pigs' heads to two men driving a Serbian-registered car.

The same car was seen in CCTV footage in the Oberkampf region of eastern Paris on Monday evening, and then again near some of the mosques.

Police said tracing of the Croatian mobile phone showed the car crossing into Belgium early on Tuesday morning.

Video footage obtained by news channel BFMTV shows a man in a white T-shirt, cap and surgical mask placing a pig's head outside a mosque in the south-western suburb of Malakoff. He is seen taking a photograph before leaving, carrying a rucksack.

At roughly the same time another person is seen doing the same at a mosque in the eastern suburb of Montreuil.

In the Stars of David affair, the perpetrators were also seen taking photographs of their work – an act interpreted as a way of proving they had done what they were paid to do, but also to form the basis of a subsequent social media campaign.

Image source,Getty Images
Image caption,Mosque Islah, in Montreuil, on the outskirts of Paris, was one of the mosques affected by the impact
Two other incidents in the past year have interested investigators.

In June 2024 stencilled images of coffins, some with wings, were found on Paris walls, with tags saying "Stop the deaths now" and "Mirages [jets] for Ukraine."

Around the same time five actual coffins draped in French flags were deposited in front of the Eiffel Tower, with a label reading "French dead in Ukraine".

In both cases, French police have identified suspects of Moldovan origin.

An intelligence report attached to the prosecution's file in the red hands case says that Russian intelligence has a strategy aimed at "distributing false information and dividing French opinion or sharpening internal tensions".

They do this by "using proxies – that is to say people who do not work directly for the [Russian] intelligence services but who carry out ad hoc tasks paid for by intermediaries, largely based in countries neighbouring Russia".

French intelligence agency Viginum, which monitors social media, said it had evidence of social media accounts linked to Russia spreading reports of the red hands affair, using thousands of fake accounts on X.

BBC
 
I think it's pretty obvious, the root cause for Islamophobia is due to the rise of hateful right wing call centres across India using the WWW and every social media platform available to peddle their anti Islam agenda...
 
I think it's pretty obvious, the root cause for Islamophobia is due to the rise of hateful right wing call centres across India using the WWW and every social media platform available to peddle their anti Islam agenda...

How do you know it is indian IT cells responsible instead of an organic movement of grassroots nationalists, likely white ?
 
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