Army chief Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa gets six months conditional extension by Supreme Court

[Abdullah719]

 

[WebGuru]

In normal situation i will oppose this decision but in current security situation it was necessary and he is a pro democracy General so i will say a good decision.

 

[MenInG]

Important for continuity in such warlike times.

 

[Asim_khan]

Good decision. We're in a unique situation and unique circumstances, important to have your best people in the most responsible roles.

 

[Syed1]

Do not agree with this decision, but I get why it has been taken. Army is probably one of the few proper institutions in the country and a continued change over of command lets the merit to come forward.

 

[HeavenOrHell]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=530190184395887

Just saying, IK had this to say when Kiyani got extension of a year.

 

[Savak]

Raheel Shareef should have been given an extension as well

 

[SensiblePakFan]

Good.

 

[Major]

Andd PM saab takes another U-tun

Obviously most ofl the PTI fans will call this a good move.

PM saab himself once said on express news, "Generals were not given extensions even during woorld war When you change the rules for one person, you destroy the entire institution.

So Imran has admitted with this move that he is destroying an institution.

But anyways, congrats to Imran khan for getting 3 years extension by General Bajwa, or is the other way around?

 

[Major]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=530190184395887

Just saying, IK had this to say when Kiyani got extension of a year.

yup, this is what i am talking about.

easy to talk before elections....

 

[JaDed]

Raheel Shareef should have been given an extension as well

It was very surprising he didn’t take or ask for another term, with his resume and Other Shariff at that time, it would had been easy for him to even taken over.

Very Caesar moment there ,which he let go.

 

[Greenstorm]

It was very surprising he didn’t take or ask for another term, with his resume and Other Shariff at that time, it would had been easy for him to even taken over.

Very Caesar moment there ,which he let go.

I think he wanted to take extension but NS did not gave him. NS always wanted a subservient army chief but fortunately for us, it never worked for him, Musharraf, Raheel and Bajwa were his selections and all of them showed him his place.

 

[JaDed]

I think he wanted to take extension but NS did not gave him. NS always wanted a subservient army chief but fortunately for us, it never worked for him, Musharraf, Raheel and Bajwa were his selections and all of them showed him his place.

IIRC he didn’t request for one.. and it was historic ..

Haha yeah you gotta feel for Sharif, Zardari did a better job at knowing who would listen..

 

[Mueez]

This is a huge decision.

It has to do with America wanting to leave Afghanistan and obviously the Kashmir issue.

And Pakistan needed stability at the moment.

 

[Lonewarrior]

IIRC he didn’t request for one.. and it was historic ..

Haha yeah you gotta feel for Sharif, Zardari did a better job at knowing who would listen..

Raheel sharif never asked , nor Bajwa wants extention. its the time where we cant change the Command of Army right now.

 

[JaDed]

Raheel sharif never asked , nor Bajwa wants extention. its the time where we cant change the Command of Army right now.

Yeah I know Raheel didn’t ask, that's why i said it was a very ‘Caesar’ moment , he was very famous , could had got.

On Bajwa , I don’t believe that but it absolutely doesn’t matter what i believe in.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Yeah I know Raheel didn’t ask, that's why i said it was a very ‘Caesar’ moment , he was very famous , could had got.

On Bajwa , I don’t believe that but it absolutely doesn’t matter what i believe in.

Raheel and Bajwa both have different personalities. Raheel was more like , "on your face" guy.
Bajwa is calm, composed and calculated person ...

On 14 August 2013, Maj-Gen. Bajwa was promoted to three-star rank and posted as field commander of the X Corps, stationed in Rawalpindi.[29][30][31] He was appointed as Grade-I officer during his tenure as field commander of the X Corps.[18] The appointment was commented in the news media that noted that Lt-Gen. Bajwa had been posted in X Corps thrice,[18] which is the army's important and largest corps, which has experience of keeping control over the situation in Kashmir.

About the reception of this appointment, Gen. Bajwa is known to have a sound understanding of Indian strategic ambitions in the region and experience of armed conflict on LoC in Kashmir.[16] In December 2016, he was awarded Nishan-e-Imtiaz.

he never wanted to have an extention, many people know that ...

 

[JaDed]

Raheel and Bajwa both have different personalities. Raheel was more like , "on your face" guy.
Bajwa is calm, composed and calculated person ...



he never wanted to have an extention, many people know that ...

As i said it doesn’t matter what I believe in, I don’t believe Indian politicians and am skeptical of Indian Defense at times as well, Ofcourse I’m not going to believe what Bajwa says..

 

[MenInG]

Andd PM saab takes another U-tun

Obviously most ofl the PTI fans will call this a good move.

PM saab himself once said on express news, "Generals were not given extensions even during woorld war When you change the rules for one person, you destroy the entire institution.

So Imran has admitted with this move that he is destroying an institution.

But anyways, congrats to Imran khan for getting 3 years extension by General Bajwa, or is the other way around?

We cannot afford a change in Army leadership - its a simply that. And stop repeating the Indian line.

 

[whyamir]

Andd PM saab takes another U-tun

Obviously most ofl the PTI fans will call this a good move.

PM saab himself once said on express news, "Generals were not given extensions even during woorld war When you change the rules for one person, you destroy the entire institution.

So Imran has admitted with this move that he is destroying an institution.

But anyways, congrats to Imran khan for getting 3 years extension by General Bajwa, or is the other way around?

I thought all the noonies were locked up LOL

 

[Pakistanian]

According to [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] leaders are supposed to be dogmatic and not evolve with time.

 

[ntomer]

We cannot afford a change in Army leadership - its a simply that. And stop repeating the Indian line.

No sir, we Indians are very happy with Imran Khan and Bajwa. They are doing the job for us.

 

[Pakistanian]

No sir, we Indians are very happy with Imran Khan and Bajwa. They are doing the job for us.

Getting Kashmir off your hands

 

[yasir]

Most interesting part of announcements is the form number “3232”

 

[uberkoen]

Oh man. Remember back in 2016 when Nawaz offered extension to Raheel Sharif?

This is what IK had to say back then:

Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) chairman Imran Khan has accused Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif of offering an extension and a promotion to Chief of Army Staff Gen Raheel Sharif because “he is afraid of the army”.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1277655/pm-offered-coas-extension-because-he-fears-army-imran

What a hypocrite!

 

[IMMY69]

Oh man. Remember back in 2016 when Nawaz offered extension to Raheel Sharif?

This is what IK had to say back then:

Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) chairman Imran Khan has accused Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif of offering an extension and a promotion to Chief of Army Staff Gen Raheel Sharif because “he is afraid of the army”.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1277655/pm-offered-coas-extension-because-he-fears-army-imran

What a hypocrite!

The funny thing about that article are the few comments below.
Those people got a real slap on their face.

By the way I see absolutely no hyprocracy whatsoever in this.
Please explain the similarities between then and now?

Continuity and stability is surely the order of the day.

 

[Syed1]

Oh man. Remember back in 2016 when Nawaz offered extension to Raheel Sharif?

This is what IK had to say back then:

Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) chairman Imran Khan has accused Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif of offering an extension and a promotion to Chief of Army Staff Gen Raheel Sharif because “he is afraid of the army”.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1277655/pm-offered-coas-extension-because-he-fears-army-imran

What a hypocrite!

Keep crying. Nawaz will remain in jail and PTI will not only complete their term they will be re-elected with even greater majority in 2023.

 

[uberkoen]

Keep crying. Nawaz will remain in jail and PTI will not only complete their term they will be re-elected with even greater majority in 2023.

Do you know how to read? Where did I mention anything about Nawaz being in Jail or PTI not completing their term?

 

[Syed1]

Do you know how to read? Where did I mention anything about Nawaz being in Jail or PTI not completing their term?

We all know where your political affiliations lie

 

[uberkoen]

We all know where your political affiliations lie

Regardless of political affiliations. My comment had nothing to do with that. There's no need to be so bitter if your beloved leader is backtracking and doing things that he was criticizing previous governments for doing. Just accept it and move on.

 

[Abdullah719]

SC suspends army chief’s extension notification, issues notice to all parties

The Supreme Court (SC) suspended on Tuesday notification of Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Qamar Javed Bajwa's tenure extension.

During the hearing taken up by Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Asif Saeed Khosa, the three-member bench suspended the notification and has issued notices to all parties, including the COAS. The CJP said only the president of Pakistan can extend the tenure of the army chief. The attorney general (AG) told the SC that the army chief's tenure was extended after the president's approval.

The CJP said out of 25 cabinet members, only 11 had approved the extension."Fourteen members of the cabinet did not give any opinion due to their absence," the chief justice said.

A petition was filed against the extension in the army chief's tenure by Jurist Foundation appealing the court to declare the extension null and void. However, the CJP rejected the application and took suo motu notice, local media reported.

The bench has adjourned the hearing till tomorrow (Wednesday).

Prime Minister (PM) Imran Khan had approved three-year extension in the tenure of General Bajwa in August. The army chief was set to retire on November 29.

“General Qamar Javed Bajwa is appointed Chief of Army Staff for another term of three years from the date of completion of current tenure," a notification issued from the PM's Office had said.

https://www.brecorder.com/2019/11/2...sion-notification-issues-notice-to-all-partie

 

[uberkoen]

What an amazing decision from the courts.

 

[Mamoon]

Brilliant. This is what the country needs - a judiciary with balls that can take on the bullies. The judiciary are finally waking up to the blackmailing of the PTI-establishment nexus.

Let’s see what happens next. The puppet dentist who calls himself the President will come to the rescue of his master any time now.

Khosa has more integrity and credibility than Saqib Nisar. Now cult-followers will start abusing and insulting him.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

Good to see due process.

 

[King-Misbah]

Brilliant. This is what the country needs - a judiciary with balls that can take on the bullies. The judiciary are finally waking up to the blackmailing of the PTI-establishment nexus.

Let’s see what happens next. The puppet dentist who calls himself the President will come to the rescue of his master any time now.

Khosa has more integrity and credibility than Saqib Nisar. Now cult-followers will start abusing and insulting him.

The president has rights to act and confirm the extention.

 

[Mamoon]

The president has rights to act and confirm the extention.

According to the constitution, the president is superior to the COAS. However, in practical terms, the president is a mere puppet.

Arif Alvi will do his duty to King Bajwa if he wants to keep his ceremonial post.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

The CJP said only the president of Pakistan can extend the tenure of the army chief. The attorney general (AG) told the SC that the army chief's tenure was extended after the president's approval.

The CJP said out of 25 cabinet members, only 11 had approved the extension."Fourteen members of the cabinet did not give any opinion due to their absence," the chief justice said.

Appears the CJP is being a bit pedantic here - don’t know whether he thinks he can exploit any divisions there may be within the Cabinet.
Does absence of members equate to disapproval of the decision?

 

[Bewal Express]

Brilliant. This is what the country needs - a judiciary with balls that can take on the bullies. The judiciary are finally waking up to the blackmailing of the PTI-establishment nexus.

Let’s see what happens next. The puppet dentist who calls himself the President will come to the rescue of his master any time now.

Khosa has more integrity and credibility than Saqib Nisar. Now cult-followers will start abusing and insulting him.

So you agree with Khosa and Gulzar on calling NS a liar and a crook?

 

[Mamoon]

If Bajwa has any dignity and grace, he would resign immediately.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

If Bajwa has any dignity and grace, he would resign immediately.

I know you are a mega troll but anyway please do enlighten us as to how someone in the government not following due process has anything to do with the COAS

 

[Bewal Express]

If Bajwa has any dignity and grace, he would resign immediately.

What has he done illegal? has IK done anything illegal? He kicked the arrse of Hindutuva fascists so you want him out! You stick to losers like Diesel, Maryam, and Billo, they are of your low standards.

 

[Mamoon]

I know you are a mega troll but anyway please do enlighten us as to how someone in the government not following due process has anything to do with the COAS

What has he done illegal? has IK done anything illegal? He kicked the arrse of Hindutuva fascists so you want him out! You stick to losers like Diesel, Maryam, and Billo, they are of your low standards.

Why does he want an extension? Is the next in line incapable of “kicking Hindutva” backsides? I thought Pakistan army is professional and capable. So what will happen if someone new takes over as COAS?

What happened to Imran’s statement that giving extensions to generals sets a wrong precedence even in the time of war? (Read post #9)

Bajwa is just another power-hungry chief who is intoxicated with the power and prestige of being the COAS, which effectively means a position of unchecked power and no accountability. Hence he is losing his sleep at the thought of vacating his all-powerful position. Imran doesn’t have the guts to say no to him, so we should appreciate the CJP for showing some cojones unlike Imran.

The excuse of “regional security environment” means nothing. Pakistan’s “regional security environment” has been unstable since independence. We have made enemies out of India, Bangladesh and Afghanistan because maintaining hostility is our foreign policy since the military is the central power in the country, and for the military, conflict is business.

The COAS should not be provided an extension under any circumstances because of the following reasons:

1) It sets the wrong precedence as Imran said back when he wasn’t polishing boots.

2) It reflects the lack of confidence that the incumbent COAS has in his successor.

3) If you keep giving extensions, where does it end? When do you say no? Kayani got one and Raheel didn’t want one because KSA flashed $$$ in his eyes. Apart from Raheel, You have to go all the way back to the 90s which was the last time a COAS didn’t overstay.

4) It can create factions with the military. The others waiting in line are no saints, and like Bajwa, they are also drooling over the prospect of becoming the COAS and the unchecked power and authority that the position brings, and they are obviously not happy when the incumbent COAS demands an extension because of his addiction to power.

 

[Bewal Express]

Why does he want an extension? Is the next in line incapable of “kicking Hindutva” backsides? I thought Pakistan army is professional and capable. So what will happen if someone new takes over as COAS?

What happened to Imran’s statement that giving extensions to generals sets a wrong precedence even in the time of war? (Read post #9)

Bajwa is just another power-hungry chief who is intoxicated with the power and prestige of being the COAS, which effectively means a position of unchecked power and no accountability. Hence he is losing his sleep at the thought of vacating his all-powerful position. Imran doesn’t have the guts to say no to him, so we should appreciate the CJP for showing some cojones unlike Imran.

The excuse of “regional security environment” means nothing. Pakistan’s “regional security environment” has been unstable since independence. We have made enemies out of India, Bangladesh and Afghanistan because maintaining hostility is our foreign policy since the military is the central power in the country, and for the military, conflict is business.

The COAS should not be provided an extension under any circumstances because of the following reasons:

1) It sets the wrong precedence as Imran said back when he wasn’t polishing boots.

2) It reflects the lack of confidence that the incumbent COAS has in his successor.

3) If you keep giving extensions, where does it end? When do you say no? Kayani got one and Raheel didn’t want one because KSA flashed $$$ in his eyes. Apart from Raheel, You have to go all the way back to the 90s which was the last time a COAS didn’t overstay.

4) It can create factions with the military. The others waiting in line are no saints, and like Bajwa, they are also drooling over the prospect of becoming the COAS and the unchecked power and authority that the position brings, and they are obviously not happy when the incumbent COAS demands an extension because of his addiction to power.

You are hurting from the humiliation Bajwa gave your friend Modi in March. Bajwa should remain as long as IK wants him and he is doing an excellent job. Remember the WAR HYSTERIA by the Hindutuva in March, what happened besides the utter humiliation for Modi. Stick to Fazlu and the crooks!

 

[Bewal Express]

So you agree with Khosa and Gulzar on calling NS a liar and a crook?

I see you have ignored this question, the mental midget got caught out again. [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

 

[Iqbal'sh]

Why does he want an extension? Is the next in line incapable of “kicking Hindutva” backsides? I thought Pakistan army is professional and capable. So what will happen if someone new takes over as COAS?

What happened to Imran’s statement that giving extensions to generals sets a wrong precedence even in the time of war? (Read post #9)

Bajwa is just another power-hungry chief who is intoxicated with the power and prestige of being the COAS, which effectively means a position of unchecked power and no accountability. Hence he is losing his sleep at the thought of vacating his all-powerful position. Imran doesn’t have the guts to say no to him, so we should appreciate the CJP for showing some cojones unlike Imran.

The excuse of “regional security environment” means nothing. Pakistan’s “regional security environment” has been unstable since independence. We have made enemies out of India, Bangladesh and Afghanistan because maintaining hostility is our foreign policy since the military is the central power in the country, and for the military, conflict is business.

The COAS should not be provided an extension under any circumstances because of the following reasons:

1) It sets the wrong precedence as Imran said back when he wasn’t polishing boots.

2) It reflects the lack of confidence that the incumbent COAS has in his successor.

3) If you keep giving extensions, where does it end? When do you say no? Kayani got one and Raheel didn’t want one because KSA flashed $$$ in his eyes. Apart from Raheel, You have to go all the way back to the 90s which was the last time a COAS didn’t overstay.

4) It can create factions with the military. The others waiting in line are no saints, and like Bajwa, they are also drooling over the prospect of becoming the COAS and the unchecked power and authority that the position brings, and they are obviously not happy when the incumbent COAS demands an extension because of his addiction to power.

You didn’t answer the question. Bajwa has done nothing wrong and there is a precedence of granting extensions to COAS.
You are clutching at straws yet again.

 

[Majid Khan]

If only the courts showed the same urgency on issues like Model Town where atrocities were committed against unarmed civilians by the state , or other cases such as the corruption allegations on various former PMs/Presidents/Leader of the Opposition of both PML and PPP, surely those are all more in the interests of the country ?

 

[kk1992]

Ma Sha’ Allah, every institution in Pakistan is destroying the narrative of Munafiq Aka the few self proclaimed geniuses of Pakistan.

Excited to see that every institution independently doing their duty as they should.

Isn’t that the same judge who called NS family a mafia?

Beyond beautiful lol

 

[Bewal Express]

Ma Sha’ Allah, every institution in Pakistan is destroying the narrative of Munafiq Aka the few self proclaimed geniuses of Pakistan.

Excited to see that every institution independently doing their duty as they should.

Isn’t that the same judge who called NS family a mafia?

Beyond beautiful lol

Yes he did. And thats why [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is running!
I will always respect CJP khosa, and if he says this decision is against the law, then his decision is right. Lets see if its just a technicality or something more fundamental. Either way the SC will be right

 

[Syed1]

So for some people this decision is brilliant and all of a sudden the same judiciary is upstanding and righteous but when the same judges declared Nawaz Sharif as a looter and plunderer then the judiciary was being forced by establishment.


Some people have zero morals and can take U-turn after U-turn.


"A man who stands for nothing, will fall for anything"

 

[kk1992]

Yes he did. And thats why [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is running!
I will always respect CJP khosa, and if he says this decision is against the law, then his decision is right. Lets see if its just a technicality or something more fundamental. Either way the SC will be right

Sign of democracy in Pakistan is getting healthier, It isn't perfect, it will never be perfect in Pakistan but to see every institution is trying their best.

As I have said it before, it is a slow process.

 

[Syed1]

Sign of democracy in Pakistan is getting healthier, It isn't perfect, it will never be perfect in Pakistan but to see every institution is trying their best.

As I have said it before, it is a slow process.

This SC was sitting quietly when patwari Lahore High Court allowed thief to run abroad on fake illness.

 

[kk1992]

This SC was sitting quietly when patwari Lahore High Court allowed thief to run abroad on fake illness.

It was government job to appeal in SC.

I believe government made a correct decision by not appealing against LHC decision, keeping NS in Pakistan would have served no purpose.

 

[WebGuru]

So now all of a sudden SC is not under pressure of establishment? What happened to the famous SC GHQ Govt nexus narrative I hope the cult followers of Raiwind and Larkana will not change their view once again in a few days...

 

[Hermoine Green]

So now all of a sudden SC is not under pressure of establishment? What happened to the famous SC GHQ Govt nexus narrative I hope the cult followers of Raiwind and Larkana will not change their view once again in a few days...

Where was the SC when Kiyani was given extension by Gillani? )

 

[Hermoine Green]

It was government job to appeal in SC.

I believe government made a correct decision by not appealing against LHC decision, keeping NS in Pakistan would have served no purpose.

You cant go to SC against an interim decision.

 

[Hermoine Green]

Yes he did. And thats why [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is running!
I will always respect CJP khosa, and if he says this decision is against the law, then his decision is right. Lets see if its just a technicality or something more fundamental. Either way the SC will be right

Kiyani was given extension by PM Gillani. No body said then anything.

 

[Hermoine Green]

Brilliant. This is what the country needs - a judiciary with balls that can take on the bullies. The judiciary are finally waking up to the blackmailing of the PTI-establishment nexus.

Let’s see what happens next. The puppet dentist who calls himself the President will come to the rescue of his master any time now.

Khosa has more integrity and credibility than Saqib Nisar. Now cult-followers will start abusing and insulting him.

Alhamdulillah Courts did the same when they declared your beloved as corrupts )

 

[WebGuru]

Alhamdulillah Courts did the same when they declared your beloved as corrupts )

Khosa was an establishment puppet because of his remarks and verdict in Panama case now all of a sudden here comes a uturn from Raiwind's cult followers

 

[Syed1]

Farogh Naseem resigned to fight COAS case as his lawyer. Excellent of government to fight fire with fire.... SC rubber stamped the patwari judges of LHC to allow thief to run abroad and now all of a sudden has woken up from slumber.

 

[Red_Teardrop]

Why does he want an extension? Is the next in line incapable of “kicking Hindutva” backsides? I thought Pakistan army is professional and capable. So what will happen if someone new takes over as COAS?

What happened to Imran’s statement that giving extensions to generals sets a wrong precedence even in the time of war? (Read post #9)

Bajwa is just another power-hungry chief who is intoxicated with the power and prestige of being the COAS, which effectively means a position of unchecked power and no accountability. Hence he is losing his sleep at the thought of vacating his all-powerful position. Imran doesn’t have the guts to say no to him, so we should appreciate the CJP for showing some cojones unlike Imran.

The excuse of “regional security environment” means nothing. Pakistan’s “regional security environment” has been unstable since independence. We have made enemies out of India, Bangladesh and Afghanistan because maintaining hostility is our foreign policy since the military is the central power in the country, and for the military, conflict is business.

The COAS should not be provided an extension under any circumstances because of the following reasons:

1) It sets the wrong precedence as Imran said back when he wasn’t polishing boots.

2) It reflects the lack of confidence that the incumbent COAS has in his successor.

3) If you keep giving extensions, where does it end? When do you say no? Kayani got one and Raheel didn’t want one because KSA flashed $$$ in his eyes. Apart from Raheel, You have to go all the way back to the 90s which was the last time a COAS didn’t overstay.

4) It can create factions with the military. The others waiting in line are no saints, and like Bajwa, they are also drooling over the prospect of becoming the COAS and the unchecked power and authority that the position brings, and they are obviously not happy when the incumbent COAS demands an extension because of his addiction to power.

Absolute Gem of a post!
But I reckon that the purblind followers of IK are still in denial, and too far stubborn to accept the truth right now.
No matter, I am just glad that judiciary is finally coming to the party and trying to hold their dictator captain in check--although I fear a repeat of nov, 2007, much like mushi did, from him.

 

[kk1992]

Absolute Gem of a post!
But I reckon that the purblind followers of IK are still in denial, and too far stubborn to accept the truth right now.
No matter, I am just glad that judiciary is finally coming to the party and trying to hold their dictator captain in check--although I fear a repeat of nov, 2007, much like mushi did, from him.

Pak had democractic election.

Bajwa extension is the right of any PM.

Which dictator are you talking about?

or are you spitting out random words because in hoping to make you look smart?

 

[kk1992]

You cant go to SC against an interim decision.

Did not know.

Thanks for correcting me.

 

[Relic]

It was government job to appeal in SC.

I believe government made a correct decision by not appealing against LHC decision, keeping NS in Pakistan would have served no purpose.

But Imran Khan said that he'll not let Nawaz sharif run away.
What happened to that "promise"?

 

[Bewal Express]

If more Pakistanis understood the facts of the matter, the sub-continent would be a very different place.

It would be a better place if idiots were consistent. Either the SC is the puppet of the establishment or it isnt? [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] ran when i challenged him on the same judge calling NS the head of the mafia.

 

[MenInG]

Federal Law Minister Farogh Naseem has resigned from his position, Railways Minister Sheikh Rasheed confirmed in a news conference on Tuesday.

He said Prime Minister Imran Khan has accepted Naseem's resignation which was tendered during a meeting of the federal cabinet today.

According to Rasheed, Naseem has resigned because he will represent the government in a case regarding Army Chief Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa's tenure extension in the Supreme Court tomorrow. He will be accompanied at the court by the attorney general of Pakistan.

Naseem belongs to the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), a coalition partner of the ruling PTI.

Special Assistant to the Prime Minister on Accountability Shahzad Akbar said Naseem has "voluntarily" resigned from his office because he could not represent the government in the case being a federal minister. He will now join the attorney general to clarify the government stance on the issue of Gen Bajwa's tenure extension.

Once the assistance is completed, Naseem can also return to the cabinet subject to the prime minister's approval, Akbar said.

The announcement comes hours after Chief Justice of Pakistan Asif Saeed Khosa suspended the government's notification of the army chief's tenure extension until the top court's hearing tomorrow.

The chief justice observed that "the summary and approval of army chief's extension is not correct."

The court issued notices to the defence ministry, federal government and Gen Bajwa, who is due to retire on November 29 (Friday).

On August 19, Prime Minister Imran had approved an extension in the tenure of Gen Bajwa for another three years.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1518977/f...resent-govt-in-sc-hearing-on-bajwas-extension

 

[IndianExpat]

It would be a better place if idiots were consistent. Either the SC is the puppet of the establishment or it isnt? [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] ran when i challenged him on the same judge calling NS the head of the mafia.

I can't claim to know details of what the Pakistani SC does. I was only referring to the bold part of what Mamoon posted.

Rest is all topi drama - even this case won't matter much - its all a kabuki theatre, jostling back and forth for bit of power. Just like that Maulana March. Ultimately there is only one power that calls the shots in Pakistan. Everybody knows who that is.

And until that changes, nothing will change. "Tabdeeli" is decades away.

 

[kk1992]

If more Pakistanis understood the facts of the matter, the sub-continent would be a very different place.

Pakistan has not maintained hostility against India since early 2000.

India has over 900K troops in Kashmir against the will of the people of Kashmir.

India illegally violated Pakistani territory on false narrative. Pakistan return the soldier immediately, which was used by Indian government as "Pakistani were scared", it is Indian media which demand loyalty from every India who has anything to do with Pakistan, it is India media which make up things out of thin air.

Now please explain who is maintaining hostility.

 

[kk1992]

But Imran Khan said that he'll not let Nawaz sharif run away.
What happened to that "promise"?

IK is a PM, not a police officer nor a border petrol officer.

 

[IndianExpat]

Pakistan has not maintained hostility against India since early 2000.

Please educate yourself on how many terrorist attacks have taken place in India since "early 2000". Even Mumbai 2008 criminals like Zak Lakhvi and his buddies are yet to be punished.

This is not the fault of the average Pakistani citizen, who I readily believe isn't really "hostile" against Pakistan. Its the feudal zamindars in uniform that control your government and its policies that is hostile.


On the "media", I think Pakistanis are placing too much stock in media - they are selling masala entertainment and shock value is easy currency. I could point to a lot of ******** examples in Pakistani "media", and the normalization and acceptance of hateful stereotype against Indians and hindus in Pakistan - but that is the symptom, not the cause. Do you understand what I mean with those 2 words?

I'm someone who grew up as a child in India. I am also someone who had Pakistani friends in college and beyond. I have no innate "hostility" towards Pakistanis, but at the same time, the actions of the Pakistani state do not leave me any choice but to support things like the Balakot air strike.

I would love to see peace and normalcy between the 2 countries - that is the natural state, not this artificially sustained enmity. I personally believe it is completely unnecessary. But it is obvious that there are powerful interests in Pakistan who stand to lose a lot if the Ind-Pak hostility disappears or even reduces. By the way, the same really cannot be said about stake-holders in India - not honestly or realistically anyway. I know Pakistanis love to give examples of Indian "media" and election rhetoric, but that's really just a whole lot of hot air.

 

[kk1992]

Please educate yourself on how many terrorist attacks have taken place in India since "early 2000". Even Mumbai 2008 criminals like Zak Lakhvi and his buddies are yet to be punished.

This is not the fault of the average Pakistani citizen, who I readily believe isn't really "hostile" against Pakistan. Its the feudal zamindars in uniform that control your government and its policies that is hostile.


On the "media", I think Pakistanis are placing too much stock in media - they are selling masala entertainment and shock value is easy currency. I could point to a lot of ******** examples in Pakistani "media", and the normalization and acceptance of hateful stereotype against Indians and hindus in Pakistan - but that is the symptom, not the cause. Do you understand what I mean with those 2 words?

I'm someone who grew up as a child in India. I am also someone who had Pakistani friends in college and beyond. I have no innate "hostility" towards Pakistanis, but at the same time, the actions of the Pakistani state do not leave me any choice but to support things like the Balakot air strike.

I would love to see peace and normalcy between the 2 countries - that is the natural state, not this artificially sustained enmity. I personally believe it is completely unnecessary. But it is obvious that there are powerful interests in Pakistan who stand to lose a lot if the Ind-Pak hostility disappears or even reduces. By the way, the same really cannot be said about stake-holders in India - not honestly or realistically anyway. I know Pakistanis love to give examples of Indian "media" and election rhetoric, but that's really just a whole lot of hot air.

No one care how many Pakistani friends you had, have or will have. It has nothing to do with it.

Your government is currently an aggressor, which utilize a narrative of hate toward Pakistan and Muslims of India.

It is your government which on cooked up narrative tried to violate Pakistani territory.

It is your government which need over 900K troops to occupy 8M + people against their will.

It is your media which is daily demanding loyalty from every guest which has anything to do with Pakistan.

Rest is rant and justification of above.

 

[Savak]

These courts are laughable. Allowing a jailed convict to travel abroad for medical treatment and then over turn the extension of the COAS at a time when we are facing multiple security challenges. Is there any institution this establishment of the PML-N and PPP have not penetrated in Pakistani Society?

 

[IndianExpat]

No one care how many Pakistani friends you had, have or will have. It has nothing to do with it.

Your government is currently an aggressor, which utilize a narrative of hate toward Pakistan and Muslims of India.

It is your government which on cooked up narrative tried to violate Pakistani territory.

It is your government which need over 900K troops to occupy 8M + people against their will.

It is your media which is daily demanding loyalty from every guest which has anything to do with Pakistan.

Rest is rant and justification of above.

I just attempted to provide you with one perspective, it is totally up to you whether you have the mental capacity to evaluate it objectively.

You are entitled to your opinion, even inaccurate ones. Your choice. You are entitled to have blind spots when it comes to the hundreds of Indian civilians murdered by Pakistani citizens.

"India bad, Pakistan good." Happy? Whatever floats your boat.

 

[kk1992]

I just attempted to provide you with one perspective, it is totally up to you whether you have the mental capacity to evaluate it objectively.

You are entitled to your opinion, even inaccurate ones. Your choice. You are entitled to have blind spots when it comes to the hundreds of Indian civilians murdered by Pakistani citizens.

"India bad, Pakistan good." Happy? Whatever floats your boat.

LOL, you can get as personal as you want and it won't change the facts, which is India is:

No one care how many Pakistani friends you had, have or will have. It has nothing to do with it.

Your government is currently an aggressor, which utilize a narrative of hate toward Pakistan and Muslims of India.

It is your government which on cooked up narrative tried to violate Pakistani territory.

It is your government which need over 900K troops to occupy 8M + people against their will.

It is your media which is daily demanding loyalty from every guest which has anything to do with Pakistan.

Rest is rant and justification of above.

I can add more to the list but this thread has nothing to do with that, it is just habit of one person to justify his thoughts by bringing India in every Pakistan related discussion for his entertainment as if that is only thing in life he has to entertain himself.

 

[Hermoine Green]

Yes he did. And thats why [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is running!
I will always respect CJP khosa, and if he says this decision is against the law, then his decision is right. Lets see if its just a technicality or something more fundamental. Either way the SC will be right

Khosa was an establishment puppet because of his remarks and verdict in Panama case now all of a sudden here comes a uturn from Raiwind's cult followers

So, President did sign the proposal and allowed the extension. Signatures of 14 Federal ministers required with in 24 hours, out of 25, 11 did sign the proposal with in 24 hours while 8 signed it after 24 hours.

But according to rules, if some one dont sign the proposal it will be accepted as a YES.

 

[Hermoine Green]

Appears the CJP is being a bit pedantic here - don’t know whether he thinks he can exploit any divisions there may be within the Cabinet.
Does absence of members equate to disapproval of the decision?

CJP statement is bit vague in this honestly. The summary which Govt had prepared said " Appointed " not extentsion. Because you can not give extension to any one, but you can appoint/ re-appoint COAS.

But CJP statement saying "Extension".


2ndly according to Article 243B PM will take a decision and will forward his decision to the President. CJP has made an issue of Signatures but according to law, this shouldnt be a problem.

 

[Mamoon]

It would be a better place if idiots were consistent. Either the SC is the puppet of the establishment or it isnt? [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] ran when i challenged him on the same judge calling NS the head of the mafia.

You should recall that I criticized the Supreme Court for not having the guts to stand up to the military establishment. It was very clear that they were actively attempting to remove Nawaz even though the charges against him were weak. However, now that they have shown some guts, I have no issues in praising them. As I have said many times before, only the judiciary in Pakistan has the power to stand up to the bullying of the military.

 

[Mamoon]

Yes he did. And thats why [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is running!
I will always respect CJP khosa, and if he says this decision is against the law, then his decision is right. Lets see if its just a technicality or something more fundamental. Either way the SC will be right

Do you?

THE SC IS A JOKE!Another shocking bad decision by the SC. Justice Khosa the great hope is not Ch Kana in the making, talks a good a good game but his decisions favour rich crooks. Would a poor man have got this decision in his favour, not in a billion years.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-allowed-to-leave-Pak&p=10196970#post10196970

 

[Mamoon]

You didn’t answer the question. Bajwa has done nothing wrong and there is a precedence of granting extensions to COAS.
You are clutching at straws yet again.

There is a precedence but that precedence needs to be stopped. Perhaps you can answer the following questions:

Is the next COAS in line incapable? Would India suddenly be all over Pakistan because of his incompetence? Does Bajwa not have faith in his the military?

What will change over the next 3 years? Will Modi not be in power?

Will India‘s policy towards Pakistan change? Will the Kashmir no longer be a issue? Will the forces of Pakistan and India play Ludo at LoC?

Will Pakistan no longer accuse India of having non-state actors in Balochistan?

If the next COAS will handle things after 3 years, why cannot he do it now?

Answer these questions and I will stop clutching at straws. In fact, any poster who is supporting Bajwa’s extension are free to answer these questions.

 

[kk1992]

There is a precedence but that precedence needs to be stopped. Perhaps you can answer the following questions:

Is the next COAS in line incapable? Would India suddenly be all over Pakistan because of his incompetence? Does Bajwa not have faith in his the military?

What will change over the next 3 years? Will Modi not be in power?

Will India‘s policy towards Pakistan change? Will the Kashmir no longer be a issue? Will the forces of Pakistan and India play Ludo at LoC?

Will Pakistan no longer accuse India of having non-state actors in Balochistan?

If the next COAS will handle things after 3 years, why cannot he do it now?

Answer these questions and I will stop clutching at straws. In fact, any poster who is supporting Bajwa’s extension are free to answer these questions.

What would happen if Bajwa were to get extension for 3 years? Pakistan will ceased to exist, Pakistani economy will get worse or you will stop clutching at straws?

Kashmir is only one of the reason.

 

[kk1992]

It is such a non-issue, getting extension in tenure and supported by current government, turned in to something else.