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Asad Shafiq, the worst ODI batsman statistically in the last 5 years

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Last 5 years with a minimum of 30 innings while batting in top 6, Asad Shafiq averages 20 at 66 SR. Nobody has done worse than that and that includes batsmen from minnow and associate teams.

Interestingly, statistically the next worst ODI batsman in the last 5 years is Younis who averaged 20 at 74 SR.

How can Pakistan team really do well in ODIs when there has always been one of Younis or Asad in the team? Pakistan has mostly played with 10 men effectively.
 
really Shafiq shouldn't be blamed for this, and its unfortunate that he'll have to carry this with him

He's a solid test bat, and anyone with a half a brain could tell after 10 or so ODI's that Shafiq wasn't an ODI player

Its the management's fault for giving him 50+ ODIs- its more a reflection on his captains and selectors than on his batting ability
 
We're the only team that would give players like Shafiq and Younis such long runs in the team despite such terrible showings and the chart above proves that. The other players on top of that unenviable list are mainly from lesser teams who may lack alternatives.
 
Probably the worst pure ODI batsman of all time.

Younis is definitely the worst ODI batsman to have played 200+ ODI's.
 
Probably the worst pure ODI batsman of all time.

Younis is definitely the worst ODI batsman to have played 200+ ODI's.

Agreed. Everyone will talk of players with technique and what not to defend Shafiq, but the name of the game is runs on the board at a good clip and Shafiq has done neither. One of the worst ODI players ever to play more than 20 games for sure.

Tests is a different game and is not an ODI defence. If Shafiq was seen in a vacuum with no test comments, we might see him as one of the worst to lace it up for Pakistan.
 
Mentally weak player

Move him from 6 in tests and i bet he'll start failing there too

When Misbah/YK retire

He should be at 4/5

And he'll fail and they protect him by keeping him at 6 letting the newcomers play at 3/4
 
Poor post.

Doesn't take into account Shafiq has been in and out of the side, on a consistent basis. Whenever he's selected, he either sits on the bench or is played a 1 or 2 matches per tour.

That too, not at his preferred, favorite position. He's floated, up and down.

All this ends up doing is hurt his confidence. No player can prosper in such dreadful team environment.

He's technically the best player in Pakistan, all we need to give him is a proper chance at a fixed number. The sample size is far too small.
 
We're the only team that would give players like Shafiq and Younis such long runs in the team despite such terrible showings and the chart above proves that. The other players on top of that unenviable list are mainly from lesser teams who may lack alternatives.

It is not the players fault they get selected. Sometimes it is their 'friends' who are running the show in the team or the selection committee or media.
 
Poor post.

Doesn't take into account Shafiq has been in and out of the side, on a consistent basis. Whenever he's selected, he either sits on the bench or is played a 1 or 2 matches per tour.

That too, not at his preferred, favorite position. He's floated, up and down.

All this ends up doing is hurt his confidence. No player can prosper in such dreadful team environment.

He's technically the best player in Pakistan, all we need to give him is a proper chance at a fixed number. The sample size is far too small.

Yeah, he's the only batsman in the last 5 years who has been discriminated against. :moyo

It is not the players fault they get selected. Sometimes it is their 'friends' who are running the show in the team or the selection committee or media.

Yeah, but that doesn't apply to everyone. :yk2
 
Poor post.

Doesn't take into account Shafiq has been in and out of the side, on a consistent basis. Whenever he's selected, he either sits on the bench or is played a 1 or 2 matches per tour.

That too, not at his preferred, favorite position. He's floated, up and down.

All this ends up doing is hurt his confidence. No player can prosper in such dreadful team environment.

He's technically the best player in Pakistan, all we need to give him is a proper chance at a fixed number. The sample size is far too small.


Are you taking the proverbial mickey?

50 games is too *small* a sample size?
 
Worst specialist ODI batsman in history to play more than 50 games just like Younis is the worst to play 200
 
Poor post.

Doesn't take into account Shafiq has been in and out of the side, on a consistent basis. Whenever he's selected, he either sits on the bench or is played a 1 or 2 matches per tour.

That too, not at his preferred, favorite position. He's floated, up and down.

All this ends up doing is hurt his confidence. No player can prosper in such dreadful team environment.

He's technically the best player in Pakistan, all we need to give him is a proper chance at a fixed number. The sample size is far too small.

Good players show their skill at any position.

In lamens terms, he's a scrub.
 
Yeah, he's the only batsman in the last 5 years who has been discriminated against. :moyo

This is quite true. I can't for the life of me figure out why such discrimination against a quality, good technique player.

Are you taking the proverbial mickey?

50 games is too *small* a sample size?

It's not large by any standard of measure.

Good players show their skill at any position.

In lamens terms, he's a scrub.

No. His technique is suitable for a specific position. Technique-oriented players need time to fine-tune it.

Shuffling is a distraction.
 
Poor post.

Doesn't take into account Shafiq has been in and out of the side, on a consistent basis. Whenever he's selected, he either sits on the bench or is played a 1 or 2 matches per tour.

That too, not at his preferred, favorite position. He's floated, up and down.

All this ends up doing is hurt his confidence. No player can prosper in such dreadful team environment.

He's technically the best player in Pakistan, all we need to give him is a proper chance at a fixed number. The sample size is far too small.

Agreed

The T20 generation is too judgemental & don't realize the worth of all important technique :srini
 
Very much like Rahane. Just poor in ODIs. The sooner the selectors realise the better.
 
50 is a massive sample size for the stats he's put out. he is proven, beyond any rational doubt whatsoever, that he is the worst odd player ever to have played in the top 6 pretty much.
 
I still feel there is an odi player in Asad. Ideally should bat at #4 that Malik is hogging but maybe he should become a specialist #6. Will need to up his game a lot though.
 
All this ends up doing is hurt his confidence. No player can prosper in such dreadful team environment.

He's technically the best player in Pakistan, all we need to give him is a proper chance at a fixed number. The sample size is far too small.

I can't believe this is a serious post. National team is not a psychiatric clinic where you can boost confidence. If you fail you stay out. It's the player's job to sustain his standard and perform consistently. And please tell me you're joking about this guy being the best player in Pak
 
Tbh you dont even need stats to see how pathetic he has been in ODIs.

People keep bringing in that he wsnt given a consistent run and was always in and out. What was the longest stretch of matches he has been played in on a continuous basis? And what was his average in those matches? Strike rate?
 
This is quite true. I can't for the life of me figure out why such discrimination against a quality, good technique player.



It's not large by any standard of measure.



No. His technique is suitable for a specific position. Technique-oriented players need time to fine-tune it.

Shuffling is a distraction.

Hypocrisy left and right. The facts are this player does not score runs and not near fast enough for the modern ODI game. He's had plenty of stretches where he played matches in a row and failed. He's played a decent amount at his favourite spot as well.

Just give it a rest. He is an awful ODI bat.
 
I think with azhar you would have some hopes but not with shafiq. Not meant for odi's .
 
Remember Moyo is usually right and he is right about Asad Shafiq.

Asad Shafiq is mentally weak player and need constant backing from team management to perform. Personally I would not have selected a mentally weak player in the squad but once selected I have to give him full backing by telling him that he will play x number of matches consistently whether he failed or succeed and then we will decide your future. IK did this with Inzi and when everybody was calling for Inzi to be dropped, IK backed him up and Pakistan get a legend in Inzi. You dont make batsman by playing them here and there and dropping them the moment they fail.
 
MOYO as an analyst?...never mind.
As with Asad, its not about him, its Pakistan.
Find the player who scores runs as oppose to the one who doesn't?
Simple.
 
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Where's Yousuf when you need to hear from him? :))

He was on TV a couple of days ago.

He was asked about who should be Pakistan's three main batsmen going forward in ODIs - the questioner pointed out that Asad Shafiq is probably one of them.

Yousuf wasn't too pleased, he said that the problem with 'you people' (read: PCB, team management, etc.) is that you don't know a real batsman and that he has a good technique and has been misused in ODIs... :moyo
 
Agreed

The T20 generation is too judgemental & don't realize the worth of all important technique :srini

Absolutely. Technique > slogging. :asadshafiq

I can't believe this is a serious post. National team is not a psychiatric clinic where you can boost confidence. If you fail you stay out. It's the player's job to sustain his standard and perform consistently. And please tell me you're joking about this guy being the best player in Pak

Hypocrisy left and right. The facts are this player does not score runs and not near fast enough for the modern ODI game. He's had plenty of stretches where he played matches in a row and failed. He's played a decent amount at his favourite spot as well.

Just give it a rest. He is an awful ODI bat.

Psychology and mental calmness play a huge role in your performances.

Add to it technique, and you get a lethal combo.

Shuffling around has shaken his technique + head!
 
Absolutely. Technique > slogging. :asadshafiq





Psychology and mental calmness play a huge role in your performances.

Add to it technique, and you get a lethal combo.

Shuffling around has shaken his technique + head!

As usual, people do not do any research before posting.

He has played 23 of his matches at his favourite third position, where he averages a whomping 32.32 with a 69 SR. He has played 48 of those 60 total matches at 3 and 4 where he averages 26 with a 68 SR.

His best year 2011, he had a plethora of matches at number 3, but he was simply too slow for the amount of balls that he faced to merit that position. He just wasn't doing the job. 71 sounds good against WI right? But 102 balls faced?! That is ludicrous for a set batsmen:

And it is the midwicket's coming in that seems to have triggered this wicket. Shafiq seemed to be going over midwicket, but ends up hitting this length delivery just to the right of long-on, who moves well to complete a simple catch

After X amount of balls, the player obviously at the 38th over needs to put the foot on the gas and he simply does not have the ability to do so. Pakistan saw this kept seeing the same trend.

In 2012, his first match for example against a meager Afghanistan he at his favourite number 3 scored 20 runs. In Feb of 2012 they gave him the entire England series at 3, he scored a duck, 18/39 at #4, then 65/78 in the fourth ODI at number 3. So they did keep him out from the odd match here and there, but no more or less than anyone else really. His speed really deterred them away from making him a staple so they kept their options open.

He has played at #3 or 4 pretty much 85% of his career, and he was very slow consistently at those positions, so they had to look for other options, and every time he looked like maybe he would show some prowess, he just disappointed again. The biggest cop out ever is this he didn't get enough run at #3, as though he is going to be sun and moon different coming in at 4.

Did we forget about 2014? How about those three matches against Australia, all three matches at his favourite spot and he had a beautiful: 13/28, 29/35 (where this trend of: 38.6 90.5 kph, can't clear the field this time, gives an easy catch to mid-off! He charged down the track again to clear mid-off but gave an easy catch to Johnson at the edge of the circle 185/5 continued, ie his inability to show he could clear the international boundary line) and finally 50/73. Fifty runs right! Oh wait, 73 deliveries to do it. It is a trend for Shafiq, he is too slow for the modern ODI game. That was a full series at his 3.

Even after those 3, Pakistan took that 50 in Australia, rated it and said, okay, it was slow, but 50 is 50 in Australia, let's give you another series in NZ.

What were those paltry totals? 5, 1, 23, 7. He played the first at 3, Pakistan said, okay this isn't working, we need to try something different, and gave him three matches at 4.

If you do a cross-sectional study of Asad and compare him to any and every Pakistani over the past few years, he has been no more or less favoured.

People will point to Hafeez, or Azhar Ali or whomever they want, but those players have had scores too. Azhar Ali came back with a bang and has fallen off and will whither away with time and is only still there because it would be embarrassing to take the C away so quickly for Pakistani management. Not right mind you.

Hafeez was cast away for years before he worked in Pakistan and became a pretty solid all-rounder. This is the same player who had three consecutive centuries. He scored runs when it counted in his 2011 return.

Shafiq has never really scored runs, and Pakistan had to look elsewhere because of it. He was getting consistent chances early, but about 20-30 matches in, he looked too slow and ate up too many balls to really get any chance of a good ODI total going. These are realities. Every time Shafiq seemed to be ready to now go for big shots because he was now set, he always faltered. Every time Pakistan said, okay, you have a decent foundation, today you are going to be the centerpiece of scoring, he got a very untimely wicket.

No one is to blame for Shafiq's failures but himself. He is 31 years old and still looks brand new out there. For all the talk about Pakistan's domestic scoring being irrelevant, for some reason for Shafiq it is a defence to say he scores in Pakistan in bunches, it will obviously come internationally.

I find it funny that in the warm up match, no pressure, Pakistan said let's try something different, and in a match everyone else played with ease and we had 4/5 top order batsmen (Malik scored 49) scoring at least 50, with the one not being a good score Shafiq with a laughable 4.

Whether it be mental, lack of skill (I really believe he doesn't have the ability to clear the boundary rope from what I have seen), or fear of being dropped is irrelevant, Shafiq cannot and will not be an ODI player at the age of 31, and anyone who thinks it's the management's fault is finding more excuses. Shafiq has never returned managements favour with the amount of matches he has gotten. He has gotten more than a fair shake. We wouldn't give that defence for Akmal or Shehzad either (nor should we) or anyone who has been in and out of the team due to inconsistent performances or shuffling up and down the lineup.

Players who are made to perform, will perform. This is a performance industry, a make or miss league, and Asad Shafiq for whatever reason has never performed really, and anyone who thinks he will is completely biased due to a personal liking, or blind for whatever reason.
 
As usual, people do not do any research before posting.

He has played 23 of his matches at his favourite third position, where he averages a whomping 32.32 with a 69 SR. He has played 48 of those 60 total matches at 3 and 4 where he averages 26 with a 68 SR.

His best year 2011, he had a plethora of matches at number 3, but he was simply too slow for the amount of balls that he faced to merit that position. He just wasn't doing the job. 71 sounds good against WI right? But 102 balls faced?! That is ludicrous for a set batsmen:



After X amount of balls, the player obviously at the 38th over needs to put the foot on the gas and he simply does not have the ability to do so. Pakistan saw this kept seeing the same trend.

In 2012, his first match for example against a meager Afghanistan he at his favourite number 3 scored 20 runs. In Feb of 2012 they gave him the entire England series at 3, he scored a duck, 18/39 at #4, then 65/78 in the fourth ODI at number 3. So they did keep him out from the odd match here and there, but no more or less than anyone else really. His speed really deterred them away from making him a staple so they kept their options open.

He has played at #3 or 4 pretty much 85% of his career, and he was very slow consistently at those positions, so they had to look for other options, and every time he looked like maybe he would show some prowess, he just disappointed again. The biggest cop out ever is this he didn't get enough run at #3, as though he is going to be sun and moon different coming in at 4.

Did we forget about 2014? How about those three matches against Australia, all three matches at his favourite spot and he had a beautiful: 13/28, 29/35 (where this trend of: 38.6 90.5 kph, can't clear the field this time, gives an easy catch to mid-off! He charged down the track again to clear mid-off but gave an easy catch to Johnson at the edge of the circle 185/5 continued, ie his inability to show he could clear the international boundary line) and finally 50/73. Fifty runs right! Oh wait, 73 deliveries to do it. It is a trend for Shafiq, he is too slow for the modern ODI game. That was a full series at his 3.

Even after those 3, Pakistan took that 50 in Australia, rated it and said, okay, it was slow, but 50 is 50 in Australia, let's give you another series in NZ.

What were those paltry totals? 5, 1, 23, 7. He played the first at 3, Pakistan said, okay this isn't working, we need to try something different, and gave him three matches at 4.

If you do a cross-sectional study of Asad and compare him to any and every Pakistani over the past few years, he has been no more or less favoured.

People will point to Hafeez, or Azhar Ali or whomever they want, but those players have had scores too. Azhar Ali came back with a bang and has fallen off and will whither away with time and is only still there because it would be embarrassing to take the C away so quickly for Pakistani management. Not right mind you.

Hafeez was cast away for years before he worked in Pakistan and became a pretty solid all-rounder. This is the same player who had three consecutive centuries. He scored runs when it counted in his 2011 return.

Shafiq has never really scored runs, and Pakistan had to look elsewhere because of it. He was getting consistent chances early, but about 20-30 matches in, he looked too slow and ate up too many balls to really get any chance of a good ODI total going. These are realities. Every time Shafiq seemed to be ready to now go for big shots because he was now set, he always faltered. Every time Pakistan said, okay, you have a decent foundation, today you are going to be the centerpiece of scoring, he got a very untimely wicket.

No one is to blame for Shafiq's failures but himself. He is 31 years old and still looks brand new out there. For all the talk about Pakistan's domestic scoring being irrelevant, for some reason for Shafiq it is a defence to say he scores in Pakistan in bunches, it will obviously come internationally.

I find it funny that in the warm up match, no pressure, Pakistan said let's try something different, and in a match everyone else played with ease and we had 4/5 top order batsmen (Malik scored 49) scoring at least 50, with the one not being a good score Shafiq with a laughable 4.

Whether it be mental, lack of skill (I really believe he doesn't have the ability to clear the boundary rope from what I have seen), or fear of being dropped is irrelevant, Shafiq cannot and will not be an ODI player at the age of 31, and anyone who thinks it's the management's fault is finding more excuses. Shafiq has never returned managements favour with the amount of matches he has gotten. He has gotten more than a fair shake. We wouldn't give that defence for Akmal or Shehzad either (nor should we) or anyone who has been in and out of the team due to inconsistent performances or shuffling up and down the lineup.

Players who are made to perform, will perform. This is a performance industry, a make or miss league, and Asad Shafiq for whatever reason has never performed really, and anyone who thinks he will is completely biased due to a personal liking, or blind for whatever reason.

This!

Well said!
 
He's showing today he's capable of playing aggressively so why has he been such a flop in white ball cricket?
 
He's showing today he's capable of playing aggressively so why has he been such a flop in white ball cricket?

It’s great too see him bat positively but he’s still only batting at a strike rate of 60 which won’t get him anywhere in limited overs.
 
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