Asia Cup 2018: Virat Kohli slammed by former Indian selector for skipping India-Pakistan clash

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India take on arch-rivals Pakistan in a mouth-watering clash in the 2018 Asia Cup on Wednesday, September 19. This is a match-up that intrigues the entire cricketing world, with fans from far and wide glued to their television sets to watch the two neighbouring nations go at it.

This time, though, much of the sheen of the India-Pakistan clash has been taken away due to the absence of Virat Kohli. The talismanic Indian batsman has decided to skip the Asia Cup in Dubai this year, prompting players, pundits and fans from either side of the border to share their disappointment.

One such former cricketer is Sandeep Patil. The erstwhile chairman of India's national selection committee has expressed his disapproval of Kohli's decision to rest out the Asia Cup.

“I do agree that players’ workload should be taken into account but when it comes to India-Pakistan matches – in which the cricket-loving people of India get so emotionally and sentimentally involved – it makes it difficult to understand why such a decision was made. In fact, it is not just the fans, even players and board officials of both the countries feel very strongly about this one big match-up,” Patil wrote in his column for the Quint. “I don’t blame Virat Kohli but my question again is that there are thirty plus players under contract for the BCCI and all of them play equal number of matches and share equal amount of workload, then why single out Virat Kohli?” he questioned.

Meanwhile, Rohit Sharma, who will be leading the Indian side for the Asia Cup, has said that it is always a matter of excitement to play against Pakistan as they are a great side and have been playing good cricket, lately.

The 31-year-old, however, added that every team is here to win the title and that the focus of the Indian side should be on the entire tournament as all the teams are competitive in nature.

Speaking during a press conference, Sharma said, "It is always exciting to play Pakistan. They are a great nation. They have been playing good cricket, off late. We are looking forward to that clash but again there are other teams here as well who are eying for the title. The games played here will be quite competitive. The focus should be on the whole tournament as everyone is here for the title."

Reflecting on the climate conditions in the United Arab Emirates, where the Asia Cup will be held, the right-hand batsman said that it is not at all pleasant. "Climate is not so pleasant for sure. Exactly the reason we wanted to come a little earlier and get accustomed to the conditions," he said.

Pakistan captain Sarfraz Ahmed, on the other hand, termed the Asia Cup as a big opportunity for all the participating teams. Speaking on their own game plan ahead of the tournament, Ahmed said that they would be taking one game at a time. India and Pakistan are slated to face each other in Asia cup on September 19 at Dubai International Stadium.

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[ipl_fan]

Asia Cup is pointless. He is justifiably rested. Even Bumrah should have been rested.

 

[InziRules]

BuT No OnE iN InDiA CaReS AbOuT AsIa CuP aNd ThEy OnlY cArE aBoUt TeStS

 

[Darkrai]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

“I do agree that players’ workload should be taken into account but when it comes to India-Pakistan matches – in which the cricket-loving people of India get so emotionally and sentimentally involved – it makes it difficult to understand why such a decision was made. In fact, it is not just the fans, even players and board officials of both the countries feel very strongly about this one big match-up,” Patil wrote in his column for the Quint. “I don’t blame Virat Kohli but my question again is that there are thirty plus players under contract for the BCCI and all of them play equal number of matches and share equal amount of workload, then why single out Virat Kohli?”

So is this guy lying? He is the former selector i think he would know better.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Looks like Sandeep Patil cares about this asia cup. Just today I found that this tournament has begun. Don't think will be watching any match.

 

[anoop]

BuT No OnE iN InDiA CaReS AbOuT AsIa CuP aNd ThEy OnlY cArE aBoUt TeStS

Only some oldies like him who are living in past and think that Ind/pak craze is still same here.

 

[CricketCartoons]

So is this guy lying? He is the former selector i think he would know better.

the very fact that kohli is rested shows india pakistan matches have lost their sheen. that is a bigger statement than what a former selector says to be in news.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Indians should stop lying with themselves that they dont care about Asia cup.

I expect a lot of ttafffic even in pp too from Indian side during Indo-Pak encounter.

 

[Darkrai]

the very fact that kohli is rested shows india pakistan matches have lost their sheen. that is a bigger statement than what a former selector says to be in news.

Why wouldn't a player be rested who has had back problems, especially when they have important upcoming tours not to mention WC is next year. Asia Cup is nothing more than a preparation for the WC.

 

[battler]

lol someone tell him kohli has trouble with his back and is rightfully rested.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Why wouldn't a player be rested who has had back problems, especially when they have important upcoming tours not to mention WC is next year. Asia Cup is nothing more than a preparation for the WC.

right. that shows matches vs pakistan are just like any other matches. not a matter of honour and pride, which some immature fans on both sides make them out to be.

 

[Darkrai]

right. that shows matches vs pakistan are just like any other matches. not a matter of honour and pride, which some immature fans on both sides make them out to be.

You should read my posts in Ravi Shastri thread. There i prove India does care when they play Pakistan, but of course there are bigger concerns such as preparing for the WC.

I don't care if Indians care or not but it's ridiculous to not acknowledge that fans do care, especially when they react the way they did after CT.

 

[kuskash]

Indians should stop lying with themselves that they dont care about Asia cup.

I expect a lot of ttafffic even in pp too from Indian side during Indo-Pak encounter.

1000 Indians on PP do not represent interest of >1 billion. Get it real mate.

 

[CricketCartoons]

You should read my posts in Ravi Shastri thread. There i prove India does care when they play Pakistan, but of course there are bigger concerns such as preparing for the WC.

I don't care if Indians care or not but it's ridiculous to not acknowledge that fans do care, especially when they react the way they did after CT.

Of course india should care when it plays pakistan, just like it should care when it plays any opponent. but not this matter of life and death, this is what most of us seasoned fans on the indian side at least have gotten over. not denying there are immature indian fans too. i don't even follow india pakistan matches on cricinfo, and not only because i am not aware if they are playing. find it immature and juvenile to celebrate beating pakistan, or being sad losing to pakistan.

 

[Sherlock]

Maybe because he's only bloody human and has played Tests/ODIs and T20s, all while having the pressure of the captaincy, and the Asia Cup isn't something I'll holla about if my team wins it.

 

[Hitman]

I certainly do care about Ind vs Pak clashes, but it's definitely not the same anymore. Till the 2011 WC it really meant a hell lot to me. It still means to me, but not as much as it did back then.

Make no mistake, an Ind vs Pak match in an ODI World Cup would still mean a hell lot to me. But other clashes between them means significantly less now.

 

[cricketindiafan]

When he was a selector from 2012-2016, he was happy to give rests to Tendulkar and Dhoni as they pleased.

Now saying the opposite. That’s our ex cricketers for you

 

[cricketjoshila]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

“I do agree that players’ workload should be taken into account but when it comes to India-Pakistan matches – in which the cricket-loving people of India get so emotionally and sentimentally involved – it makes it difficult to understand why such a decision was made. In fact, it is not just the fans, even players and board officials of both the countries feel very strongly about this one big match-up,” Patil wrote in his column for the Quint. “I don’t blame Virat Kohli but my question again is that there are thirty plus players under contract for the BCCI and all of them play equal number of matches and share equal amount of workload, then why single out Virat Kohli?”

So is this guy lying? He is the former selector i think he would know better.

This is why he is a ex selector and has nothing to do with Indian cricket presently.

Point is that BCCI and selectors and Kohli didnt think it was important to play these matches. No one in the media batted an eyelid infact many were saying that Bumrah and Pandya should be rested too.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I certainly do care about Ind vs Pak clashes, but it's definitely not the same anymore. Till the 2011 WC it really meant a hell lot to me. It still means to me, but not as much as it did back then.

Make no mistake, an Ind vs Pak match in an ODI World Cup would still mean a hell lot to me. But other clashes between them means significantly less now.

This is something our Pakistani friends refuse to understand.

 

[Darkrai]

This is why he is a ex selector and has nothing to do with Indian cricket presently.

Point is that BCCI and selectors and Kohli didnt think it was important to play these matches. No one in the media batted an eyelid infact many were saying that Bumrah and Pandya should be rested too.

Are you that dull? I've given you all the proof in the world that Indian fans do care when they play Pakistan but you don't want to understand, facts wont change. You can't make people understand something that they do not want to understand.

 

[Hitman]

This is something our Pakistani friends refuse to understand.

Exactly. We all like to watch matches between India and Pakistan. But level of excitement that we had till the 2011 WC was unparalleled. Back then an India vs Pak match would mean something else.

A poster somewhere that a fan was seen crushing a TV set after India's loss against Pakistan in the CT final. Bhai, that was just one person. That doesn't necessarily mean we all were busy doing the same. Of course we were all disappointed, no point in lying about it. But back till the 2011 WC, things were different. Trust me, India winning their match against Pak in the last WC is the least memorable WC victory of mine in out streak.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Are you that dull? I've given you all the proof in the world that Indian fans do care when they play Pakistan but you don't want to understand, facts wont change. You can't make people understand something that they do not want to understand.

Indian fans care whenever India plays a match. But Indo Pak rivalry doesnot have the same importance that it once had.

For Kohli it was more important to be fit for tests vs WI and Australia tour than these asia cup indo pak matches. Or is he too lying?

Is that so difficult to understand?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Exactly. We all like to watch matches between India and Pakistan. But level of excitement that we had till the 2011 WC was unparalleled. Back then an India vs Pak match would mean something else.

A poster somewhere that a fan was seen crushing a TV set after India's loss against Pakistan in the CT final. Bhai, that was just one person. That doesn't necessarily mean we all were busy doing the same. Of course we were all disappointed, no point in lying about it. But back till the 2011 WC, things were different. Trust me, India winning their match against Pak in the last WC is the least memorable WC victory of mine in out streak.

If India would have lost a final vs Sri lanka in CT people would still be upset. Losing a big final is always upsetting.

 

[Hitman]

Indian fans care whenever India plays a match. But Indo Pak rivalry doesnot have the same importance that it once had.

For Kohli it was more important to be fit for tests vs WI and Australia tour than these asia cup indo pak matches. Or is he too lying?

Is that so difficult to understand?

Dada, us who grew up in the 90's would know what it meant to us back then. People would skip school/college/office back then when there was an Ind vs Pak match, even bilateral matches. Back then cable TV was not something as common as now in Indian homes. People would flock to electronic stores to watch the match, where the store owners were gracious enough to switch on a TV set and let those people enjoy the match. It was festival time whenever India would an ODI match against Pakistan, even if it were a meaningless bilateral match. Mostly because we weren't a strong team back then.

I didn't watch cricket back in the 80's, maybe you did since you are older than me. But from what I've heard from my elders, things were the same back then as well. Things remained more or less the same even throughout 2000. But those of us who live in India would realize that things changed significantly since the 2011 WC.

 

[Darkrai]

Facts >PP Indian fans opinions.

Fact:
CT group match: 3rd most watch match ever.
2 other Pak v India matches feature in top 4

Indian fans cried after CT. Cursed their players and burned their picture, broke Tvs.
Fans said loosing to Pakistan was humiliating, they would rather lose to other team but not Pakistan.

ICC admits Pak v India matches make them more money.
Indian media say Pak vs Ind is the most hyped match in India

Indian ex-cricketer admit that.
Everyone does except few experts here on PP


Facts > Opinions.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Dada, us who grew up in the 90's would know what it meant to us back then. People would skip school/college/office back then when there was an Ind vs Pak match, even bilateral matches. Back then cable TV was not something as common as now in Indian homes. People would flock to electronic stores to watch the match, where the store owners were gracious enough to switch on a TV set and let those people enjoy the match. It was festival time whenever India would an ODI match against Pakistan, even if it were a meaningless bilateral match. Mostly because we weren't a strong team back then.

I didn't watch cricket back in the 80's, maybe you did since you are older than me. But from what I've heard from my elders, things were the same back then as well. Things remained more or less the same even throughout 2000. But those of us who live in India would realize that things changed significantly since the 2011 WC.

This is how it is. But who will make a some people understand.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Facts >PP Indian fans opinions.

Fact:
CT group match: 3rd most watch match ever.
2 other Pak v India matches feature in top 4

Indian fans cried after CT. Cursed their players and burned their picture, broke Tvs.
Fans said loosing to Pakistan was humiliating, they would rather lose to other team but not Pakistan.

ICC admits Pak v India matches make them more money.
Indian media say Pak vs Ind is the most hyped match in India

Indian ex-cricketer admit that.
Everyone does except few experts here on PP


Facts > Opinions.

Half truths that you pass off as facts.

1.All the matches that you talk about are important ICC matches. So ofcourse people watch them. Add to that the fact that in other India matches there are 1bn plus Indians plus a much smaller population of the opposition country. In India pak match there is the same 1bn plus Indian population but the opposition country has 200mn plus population. So the cumulative audience is bigger.

2. So? Fans were upset that the team lost a icc final. They did worse when India was out of 2007 WC.

3. Two teams with most fans play a match, attendance is high. Simple maths for icc.

4. Where did Indian media say this?

5. Indian present captain skips the matches. Selectors and Bcci agree. Mainstream media expected even more absentees. This is more credible than Sandeep patil writing for Quint.

6. Bcci doesnot entertain any thoughts of playing any triangulars or quadrangulars except Asia cup and icc matches. Something they did regularly in 90s to keep the Indo Pak matches going.

7. Bcci doesnot hire Pakistanis in IPL. Not even commentators or coaches.

Facts>half facts.

 

[Hitman]

This is how it is. But who will make a some people understand.

Dada, the match between both the teams in the 96' WC QF will always, always remain the most memorable ODI match for me for my entire lifetime. Not even the sweet, sweet demolition by us in the 03' WC against them comes on par with that (although comes close). Why? Only one reason - circumstances.

We were a weak team back then, while they were much better then us in terms of bench strength. It's all about the circumstances back then.

 

[Darkrai]

Half truths that you pass off as facts.

1.All the matches that you talk about are important ICC matches. So ofcourse people watch them. Add to that the fact that in other India matches there are 1bn plus Indians plus a much smaller population of the opposition country. In India pak match there is the same 1bn plus Indian population but the opposition country has 200mn plus population. So the cumulative audience is bigger.

2. So? Fans were upset that the team lost a icc final. They did worse when India was out of 2007 WC.

3. Two teams with most fans play a match, attendance is high. Simple maths for icc.

4. Where did Indian media say this?

5. Indian present captain skips the matches. Selectors and Bcci agree. Mainstream media expected even more absentees. This is more credible than Sandeep patil writing for Quint.

6. Bcci doesnot entertain any thoughts of playing any triangulars or quadrangulars except Asia cup and icc matches. Something they did regularly in 90s to keep the Indo Pak matches going.

7. Bcci doesnot hire Pakistanis in IPL. Not even commentators or coaches.

Facts>half facts.

More irrelevant posts from you. It's not my opinion, it's what Indian media says and How Indians feel. If you don't feel the same way fine, nobody cares.

 

[shaz619]

I certainly do care about Ind vs Pak clashes, but it's definitely not the same anymore. Till the 2011 WC it really meant a hell lot to me. It still means to me, but not as much as it did back then.

Make no mistake, an Ind vs Pak match in an ODI World Cup would still mean a hell lot to me. But other clashes between them means significantly less now.

It's funny that the world cup suddenly is so meaningful when the same people big up bilateral statistics overly from that part of the world to spew various narratives. I agree from the POV that these clashes are not so big in terms of the current era and talent in both teams which is inferior compared to the past but to suggest that a Pak/Ind clash is not huge regardless is silly, am not sure if it's due to the propaganda in your country which the sheep gobble up very quick or a way to play down possible defeat, but from someone in the UK a Pak/Ind would sell out wembley twice over if it was a dead rubber or an ICC final.

 

[shaz619]

I don't think this ducking by Kohli reflects well on him eitherway, he is sort of playing up all the critics who point out that he is too weak mentally to deal with high pressure situations and it doesn't get bigger then a Pak/Ind clash for an asian player from either country.

 

[kuskash]

I don't think this ducking by Kohli reflects well on him eitherway, he is sort of playing up all the critics who point out that he is too weak mentally to deal with high pressure situations and it doesn't get bigger then a Pak/Ind clash for an asian player from either country.

Yes he is too weak mentally.

 

[Savak]

Shows the importance the Indian team gives to Pakistani matches. Maybe Kohli could have been rested for the final test match in England and the first few Asia Cup games and then played in the India Pakistan game?

 

[kuskash]

Shows the importance the Indian team gives to Pakistani matches. Maybe Kohli could have been rested for the final test match in England and the first few Asia Cup games and then played in the India Pakistan game?

Exactly, thats why I wrote the sarcastic comment that he is mentally too weak. My Pak friends think BCCI and Kohli should give the same amount of importance which they give to Ind-Pak matches. They do not want to accept reality.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

“I do agree that players’ workload should be taken into account but when it comes to India-Pakistan matches – in which the cricket-loving people of India get so emotionally and sentimentally involved – it makes it difficult to understand why such a decision was made. In fact, it is not just the fans, even players and board officials of both the countries feel very strongly about this one big match-up,” Patil wrote in his column for the Quint. “I don’t blame Virat Kohli but my question again is that there are thirty plus players under contract for the BCCI and all of them play equal number of matches and share equal amount of workload, then why single out Virat Kohli?”

So is this guy lying? He is the former selector i think he would know better.

Sandeep Patil was an average player and knows nothing about cricket in India. He is just an old and bitter man who didn't get his share of money from IPL. His views are not that important.

 

[Shafi]

Actually ever since India is winning against us effortlessly it lost the charm. Beside Indian selectors are well aware of other teams strength and select team which are good enough to compete them.Where our selectors will choose best eleven even against Singapore team.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Are you that dull? I've given you all the proof in the world that Indian fans do care when they play Pakistan but you don't want to understand, facts wont change. You can't make people understand something that they do not want to understand.

Indians do care and will watch the match on Wednesday. Don't listen to some of these fans.

 

[Darkrai]

Indians do care and will watch the match on Wednesday. Don't listen to some of these fans.

Yes, i know they care but they don't want to admit it.

You are unbiased unlike some people here, which is very good of course.

 

[PakLFC]

Kohli gives the impression how he is more tired then other Indian players. Most players would want to play against the traditional rival where as Kohli would rather spend time with the wife! To most India and Pak fans this match means everything.

 

[Markhor]

He's played a lot of cricket and with Test series against WI and AUS coming up, he'll probably wanted to save himself for that.

 

[PakLFC]

He's played a lot of cricket and with Test series against WI and AUS coming up, he'll probably wanted to save himself for that.

He should have missed the West Indies series instead that India should easily win against him.

 

[JaDed]

If Kohli gets injured during Asia cup,same selector would be like why was he played or selected if he had issues.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Yes, i know they care but they don't want to admit it.

You are unbiased unlike some people here, which is very good of course.

I was waiting for this match for a very long time. I am excited to see Ind vs Pak match again. Those who have seen ind vs pak matches understand how exciting and tense it gets.

I know some fans who don't take interest in cricket generally but whenever there is an Ind vs Pak match they watch it. It could be because of hate, politics, excitement or hottest event trending in social media but all that doesn't matter. What matters is that the following is still huge.

 

[LegendAli]

I certainly do care about Ind vs Pak clashes, but it's definitely not the same anymore. Till the 2011 WC it really meant a hell lot to me. It still means to me, but not as much as it did back then.

Make no mistake, an Ind vs Pak match in an ODI World Cup would still mean a hell lot to me. But other clashes between them means significantly less now.

We dominated you in the final last year, did that not ignite the fire for you again?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

He should have missed the West Indies series instead that India should easily win against him.

15 years ago no cricketer except a legend like Sachin or Imran would have dared/thought about resting during an international match. They wouldn't risk to lose their place to someone else. Now all that has changed. Even a noob like Pandya was rested during Zim series and Nidahas trophy when it was the time for him to learn more by playing more.

I am not against Kohli taking a break but he should take a break from IPL instead then skipping Asia Cup.

 

[LegendAli]

Dada, us who grew up in the 90's would know what it meant to us back then. People would skip school/college/office back then when there was an Ind vs Pak match, even bilateral matches. Back then cable TV was not something as common as now in Indian homes. People would flock to electronic stores to watch the match, where the store owners were gracious enough to switch on a TV set and let those people enjoy the match. It was festival time whenever India would an ODI match against Pakistan, even if it were a meaningless bilateral match. Mostly because we weren't a strong team back then.

I didn't watch cricket back in the 80's, maybe you did since you are older than me. But from what I've heard from my elders, things were the same back then as well. Things remained more or less the same even throughout 2000. But those of us who live in India would realize that things changed significantly since the 2011 WC.

Stop it.

The reason India/Pak matches are not so big now is because you can go home now and watch the highlights on Youtube (etc) at your convinience, this wasn't a thing in the 90's, watch it Live or you've missed out.

Stop trying to downplay the rivalry.

 

[Hitman]

We dominated you in the final last year, did that not ignite the fire for you again?

Much like we humiliated you in a neutral venue in a best of 3 finals in the Independence Cup in early 1998. A single match can be termed a fluke. But a best of 3 finals can't be termed a fluke. Did that ignite a fire in you to defeat us in the 99' WC match? The Kargil War was going on during that time. It must have definitely put a fire under the belly of your team. Or do you want the link to the scorecard of that match?

 

[LegendAli]

Much like we humiliated you in a neutral venue in a best of 3 finals in the Independence Cup in early 1998. A single match can be termed a fluke. But a best of 3 finals can't be termed a fluke. Did that ignite a fire in you to defeat us in the 99' WC match? The Kargil War was going on during that time. It must have definitely put a fire under the belly of your team. Or do you want the link to the scorecard of that match?

Neutral venue? that to two decades ago?

Let's talk current decade shall we? Pakistan in India 2012 LOL.

 

[Itachi]

I don't know why pak ppers find it hard to grasp a simple concept.

The clash between India and pak in a WC is still tense but not the level of 90s. Time progress, entities loose their charm. That's a gradual phenomenon. Once Asia cup was big. But today, I found out in pp that it already had started.

In 90s, we had legends from both the teams. There were ups and downs with quality cricket to the insane amount.

 

[Hitman]

Stop it.

The reason India/Pak matches are not so big now is because you can go home now and watch the highlights on Youtube (etc) at your convinience, this wasn't a thing in the 90's, watch it Live or you've missed out.

Stop trying to downplay the rivalry.

So you know about what's going on in my state than me? Try convincing yourself with whatever you want to believe. The very fact that the BCCI chose to rest their most important player for the Asia Cup speaks volumes about how much the Asia Cup means to us.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

15 years ago no cricketer except a legend like Sachin or Imran would have dared/thought about resting during an international match. They wouldn't risk to lose their place to someone else. Now all that has changed. Even a noob like Pandya was rested during Zim series and Nidahas trophy when it was the time for him to learn more by playing more.

I am not against Kohli taking a break but he should take a break from IPL instead then skipping Asia Cup.

Kohli is injured bro....you are dragging this issue too much. His back has given up and playing in 45 degree heat meaning exaggerating it. Are you willing Indian team travelling to Aust/NZ without kohli? He should rest in WI series as well. Beating Pakistan gives immense joy no doubt but ask anyone, everyone would say a test series win in Aust anyday over an Asia cup. Dont worry bro...we will go all out attack against Pak on 19th June in Manchester in a world cup which matters a lot and make it 7 -0

 

[Hitman]

Neutral venue? that to two decades ago?

Let's talk current decade shall we? Pakistan in India 2012 LOL.

Errr .... but the overall record that you fans keep prancing about includes matches form the start of the rivalry

Now let's check facts, Champions Trophy was so prestigious that the ICC was planning to scrape it since 2006. And ultimately scrapped it last year. What a prestigious tournament!

 

[CricketCartoons]

15 years ago no cricketer except a legend like Sachin or Imran would have dared/thought about resting during an international match. They wouldn't risk to lose their place to someone else. Now all that has changed. Even a noob like Pandya was rested during Zim series and Nidahas trophy when it was the time for him to learn more by playing more.

I am not against Kohli taking a break but he should take a break from IPL instead then skipping Asia Cup.

Yes, Kohli should wait till IPL next year to take a break and play non stop till then because when he should rest should not be decided by him but by those who sit on a couch.

 

[ManFan]

One thing is for certain.

No excuses from both sides as India and Pakistan are both fit and firing to go.

Mouthwatering contest.

 

[LegendAli]

Errr .... but the overall record that you fans keep prancing about includes matches form the start of the rivalry

Now let's check facts, Champions Trophy was so prestigious that the ICC was planning to scrape it since 2006. And ultimately scrapped it last year. What a prestigious tournament!

Stop trying to change the subject.

Let's continue talking about who beat who in their home venue in the past few years like we were.

 

[LegendAli]

So you know about what's going on in my state than me? Try convincing yourself with whatever you want to believe. The very fact that the BCCI chose to rest their most important player for the Asia Cup speaks volumes about how much the Asia Cup means to us.

"the most important player" would have chased down the total in the final last year, not got out the very next ball after being given a lifeline.

 

[cricketjoshila]

More irrelevant posts from you. It's not my opinion, it's what Indian media says and How Indians feel. If you don't feel the same way fine, nobody cares.

Its funny how Pakistanis claim to know about what Indians feel.

Why not refute my points.

 

[cricketjoshila]

He should have missed the West Indies series instead that India should easily win against him.

Thats the Pakistani feeling. As you see the Indian captain the board feels otherwise.

 

[cricketjoshila]

15 years ago no cricketer except a legend like Sachin or Imran would have dared/thought about resting during an international match. They wouldn't risk to lose their place to someone else. Now all that has changed. Even a noob like Pandya was rested during Zim series and Nidahas trophy when it was the time for him to learn more by playing more.

I am not against Kohli taking a break but he should take a break from IPL instead then skipping Asia Cup.

Well the bcci and Kohli feel IPL is more important than Asia cup. But they dont know anything about what fans follow..

 

[cricketjoshila]

"the most important player" would have chased down the total in the final last year, not got out the very next ball after being given a lifeline.

So no ATG has ever failed in a match.lol.

 

[Hitman]

"the most important player" would have chased down the total in the final last year, not got out the very next ball after being given a lifeline.

Errr ..... the rules of the game says that a batsman is not not unless an opposition player takes his catch cleanly. So how was he given a lifeline? The fielder dropped his catch. Much like how your most important contributor was adjudged not out (rightly so), after the bowler was caught bowling a no call in the CT final.

Next, the most important player of a team does not need to always be the top performer. For example, a certain player by the name of ... errr, what was his name ..... oh yeah, Waqar Younis was carted all over the park by by a certain nobody like Ajay Jadeja in the 96' WC. In fact Jadeja made a mockery out of him that no other batsman could make of even a minnow team bowler till that point

Next, Jayasuriya was the MVP of the 96' WC. He scored in single figures in the SF and the QF of that tournament. The most important player of a team does not have to do it in every single tournament. He is termed the most valuable player of his team because he is the player of his team.

 

[BlackShadow]

As much as I don't care about India playing a bunch of bottom ranked teams, I would still follow India-Pak encounter as that to me will confirm if Pakistan's CT win over India was a fluke or not.

 

[cricketindiafan]

15 years ago no cricketer except a legend like Sachin or Imran would have dared/thought about resting during an international match. They wouldn't risk to lose their place to someone else. Now all that has changed. Even a noob like Pandya was rested during Zim series and Nidahas trophy when it was the time for him to learn more by playing more.

I am not against Kohli taking a break but he should take a break from IPL instead then skipping Asia Cup.

Top players like Dravid and Ganguly decided to rest from an entire ICC tournament as it immediately followed 2007 England tour. All of them missed many ODIs at their peak to take rest. Google that before writing fiction that you so dearly love. Hint 2003 TVS Cup in Bangladesh in Apr 2003 ‪after the WC.

 

[BlackShadow]

If Kohli gets injured during Asia cup,same selector would be like why was he played or selected if he had issues.

Exactly. When India have enough bench strength, it makes little sense to play our best players all the time.

 

[Hitman]

Errr ..... the rules of the game says that a batsman is not not unless an opposition player takes his catch cleanly. So how was he given a lifeline? The fielder dropped his catch. Much like how your most important contributor was adjudged not out (rightly so), after the bowler was caught bowling a no call in the CT final.

Next, the most important player of a team does not need to always be the top performer. For example, a certain player by the name of ... errr, what was his name ..... oh yeah, Waqar Younis was carted all over the park by by a certain nobody like Ajay Jadeja in the 96' WC. In fact Jadeja made a mockery out of him that no other batsman could make of even a minnow team bowler till that point

Next, Jayasuriya was the MVP of the 96' WC. He scored in single figures in the SF and the QF of that tournament. The most important player of a team does not have to do it in every single tournament. He is termed the most valuable player of his team because he is the player of his team.

I made a small mistake here. The MVP was initially supposed to a different fast bowler, until he changed his mind and decided not to play that match due to ..... aah, most of us know why.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Top players like Dravid and Ganguly decided to rest from an entire ICC tournament as it immediately followed 2007 England tour. All of them missed many ODIs at their peak to take rest. Google that before writing fiction that you so dearly love. Hint 2003 TVS Cup in Bangladesh in Apr 2003 ‪after the WC.

Correct me if i am wrong but SRT skipped the 2010 Asia cup. Didnt he?

 

[CricketCartoons]

One thing is for certain.

No excuses from both sides as India and Pakistan are both fit and firing to go.

Mouthwatering contest.

good that some fans are keeping the revenue coming, otherwise for seasoned fans like us..if we win against pakistan, there is nothing to celebrate, as it is only pakistan. same if we lose..nothing to feel bad about, as it is only pakistan.

now if it was against australia, our reaction would be different.

 

[ManFan]

good that some fans are keeping the revenue coming, otherwise for seasoned fans like us..if we win against pakistan, there is nothing to celebrate, as it is only pakistan. same if we lose..nothing to feel bad about, as it is only pakistan.

now if it was against australia, our reaction would be different.

Of course.

The contest means nothing.

Which is why you and I are sitting on an online cricket forum discussing it days before it is going to happen and the last encounter between the two resulted in the third highest viewership of a cricket game and global coverage.

Therefore, it is a natural conclusion, that your premise is correct.

 

[cricketindiafan]

Patil has also got his facts mixed. He says there are many players aged 30+ in BCCI contract list playing all the three formats. Why are they not resting as they also have same workload.

Players aged 30+ in BCCI contract list - Dhoni, Saha, Vijay, Karthik, Parthiv, Ashwin, Rohit, Raina, Kedar, Umesh

Not one plays across three formats. But then when you have to run propaganda, you need to invent convenient facts.

Maybe Kohli refused to come as a guest on his Cookery show ‘Taste Match’ . Gavaskar, Kapil, Ganguly, Sehwag all big stars appeared

 

[cricketindiafan]

Patil has also got his facts mixed. He says there are many players aged 30+ in BCCI contract list playing all the three formats. Why are they not resting as they also have same workload.

Players aged 30+ in BCCI contract list - Dhoni, Saha, Vijay, Karthik, Parthiv, Ashwin, Rohit, Raina, Kedar, Umesh

Not one regularly plays across three formats. But then when you have to run propaganda, you need to invent convenient facts.

Maybe Kohli refused to come as a guest on his Cookery show ‘Taste Match’ . Gavaskar, Kapil, Ganguly, Sehwag all big stars appeared

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Yes, Kohli should wait till IPL next year to take a break and play non stop till then because when he should rest should not be decided by him but by those who sit on a couch.

Since you are just a part time cricket fan who doesn't even know when tournaments start or end I will still explain it to you.

I was talking about the IPL which happened earlier this year where Kohli injured himself. He should have rested knowing upcoming fixtures like England and Asia Cup. If I can't decide when he should take rest then you also have no right to tell us when he should take rest.

 

[BlackShadow]

Since you are just a part time cricket fan who doesn't even know when tournaments start or end I will still explain it to you.

I was talking about the IPL which happened earlier this year where Kohli injured himself. He should have rested knowing upcoming fixtures like England and Asia Cup. If I can't decide when he should take rest then you also have no right to tell us when he should take rest.

Kohli has that right. He chose IPL over Afgan Test and Asia Cup.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Top players like Dravid and Ganguly decided to rest from an entire ICC tournament as it immediately followed 2007 England tour. All of them missed many ODIs at their peak to take rest. Google that before writing fiction that you so dearly love. Hint 2003 TVS Cup in Bangladesh in Apr 2003 ‪after the WC.

First of all I am not against Kohli taking a break from cricket may be you didn't read that properly. Secondly don't argue just for the sake of it. I am just suggesting he should skip IPL to extend his career. Not my problem if some of you are so sensitive about IPL.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Kohli has that right. He chose IPL over Afgan Test and Asia Cup.

Kohli also has the right to pick a coach as well. Are you ok with it now?

 

[CricketCartoons]

Of course.

The contest means nothing.

Which is why you and I are sitting on an online cricket forum discussing it days before it is going to happen and the last encounter between the two resulted in the third highest viewership of a cricket game and global coverage.

Therefore, it is a natural conclusion, that your premise is correct.

You can count my posts in india vs pakistan related threads. only bothered to reply here to clear the myth. i don't even know how the new pakistani players look like, that is the level of interest i have. although i can recognize babar azam, amir and wahab riaz. (of course veterans like hafeez too if they are in the squad)

 

[ManFan]

You can count my posts in india vs pakistan related threads. only bothered to reply here to clear the myth. i don't even know how the new pakistani players look like, that is the level of interest i have. although i can recognize babar azam, amir and wahab riaz. (of course veterans like hafeez too if they are in the squad)

I don’t need to count.

You’re here and that’s all there is to it.

By the way, did the Mrs. CC have any dreams on who might win?

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Since you are just a part time cricket fan who doesn't even know when tournaments start or end I will still explain it to you.

I was talking about the IPL which happened earlier this year where Kohli injured himself. He should have rested knowing upcoming fixtures like England and Asia Cup. If I can't decide when he should take rest then you also have no right to tell us when he should take rest.

So a fit Kohli should have rested in IPL afraid of getting injured? How would he have foreseen an injury?? BRO

He was injured in last IPL and he rested. He was fit this year, hence he played. Understood BRO.

 

[CricketCartoons]

I don’t need to count.

You’re here and that’s all there is to it.

By the way, did the Mrs. CC have any dreams on who might win?

just got to know today that asia cup has started, haven't even switched to the sports channel (don't know and don't care which channel is broadcasting). with IPL I don't even miss the pre match discussion. but whatever you want to believe. you are right in a way..if i am not bothered about pakistan matches (actually not bothered about any matches in asia cup), i shouldn't even bother to underline my lack of interest again and again.

 

[BlackShadow]

Kohli also has the right to pick a coach as well. Are you ok with it now?

Kohli's priorities are his own decision, and as long as BCCI is fine with it, why are you upset?

 

[El Generico]

1000 Indians on PP do not represent interest of >1 billion. Get it real mate.

Sure 1000 don't but what about 201 million? BTW these figures are from the group match not the final.

We were expecting high ratings for this match. It would have been a surprise in case viewership was low. Having said that, the reach of 201 million has surpassed our expectations.”

https://m.economictimes.com/industr...-and-creates-history/articleshow/59168451.cms