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ENG 236 & 97/5 (53.1) CRR: 1.82
Day 5: 1st Session - England need 371 runs
 
Looks like Australia is going to make short work of it. 80 overs to have a go at them. Not sure if Stokes can defend his way out.
 
Basically, these guys have to do a Faf-AB of Adelaide 2012 again. Same venue.
 
Ashwin and vihari blocked 43 over to save a test ,can Buttler and stokes do same here
Lol stokes gone :cummins
 
Expected. Guys like Stokes can never think of defending in this situation. With an aggressive fieldset, they should have taken it to the opposition. it upsets the rhythm of the bowler. Should have taken the gamble. After all the stalling he made only 12 runs
 
Ashwin and vihari blocked 43 over to save a test ,can Buttler and stokes do same here
Lol stokes gone :cummins

These guys have over 70 overs to block. Besides the ball is turning big and also under lights it is going to be even more difficult.
 
During the daytime, the pitch is much easier to bat on. This is fairly a noob seam attack. Lyon is the genuine threat as the ball is turning. Not a 105/6 wicket. England is unable to handle pressure.
 
Ben Stokes is pretty overrated in Test cricket. He is good but is not as good as he is hyped . Averaging only 36 with the bat at 5 is just not good enough. He is capable of playing GOAT innings but consistency isn't there hence average is on the low side.
 
Australia names unchanged squad for remainder of Vodafone Ashes Series

Australia has named an unchanged 15-man squad for the three remaining Vodafone Ashes Test matches in Melbourne, Sydney and Hobart.

Australia:

Pat Cummins (NSW) (c)
Alex Carey (SA)
Cameron Green (WA)
Marcus Harris (VIC)
Josh Hazlewood (NSW)
Travis Head (SA)
Usman Khawaja (QLD)
Marnus Labuschagne (QLD)
Nathan Lyon (NSW)
Michael Neser (QLD)
Jhye Richardson (WA)
Steve Smith (NSW) (vc)
Mitchell Starc (NSW)
Mitchell Swepson (QLD)
David Warner (NSW)

Fast bowlers Pat Cummins and Josh Hazlewood rejoin the squad when it assembles in Melbourne on Thursday.
 
This is what Stokes should have done. Should have been more positive. He tried to bat like Paul Collingwood.
 
A good effort by Buttler and Woakes actually, and well done to them for not just rolling over. This still looks done by the tea break though.
 
Brave effort by Buttler till now. SR of just 15, amazing discipline for such an attacking batsman.
 
Buttler has probably just about hung onto his place in the side with this 150 ball innings.
 
Good knock by Buttler but think one ball will have a name on it.
 
Warne ranting a bit about the bowling changes on commentary, criticising Steve Smith and clearly getting a bit jittery. Still lots of overs to chip away these last three wickets — hardly crisis point yet.
 
Robinson gone, the 2 left handers Anderson broad will not last long against Lyons.
 
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Buttler has probably just about hung onto his place in the side with this 150 ball innings.

Probably has.

But he's still at about -150 runs when you factor in his awful wicketkeeping. If he keeps dropping 'em, England will keep losing.
 
Probably has.

But he's still at about -150 runs when you factor in his awful wicketkeeping. If he keeps dropping 'em, England will keep losing.

I totally agree.

I should have clarified in my post that this will be enough for Jos to keep his place in this current setup — rightly or wrongly — probably wrongly!
 
Why cannot the top order show this level of adhesiveness?

Buttler and the bowlers at least take the match to the final session.
 
Probably has.

But he's still at about -150 runs when you factor in his awful wicketkeeping. If he keeps dropping 'em, England will keep losing.

Concur. Bairstow for the next test, not that he is any better. The best wicketkeeper in the country continues to be unutilised.
 
Buttler once again illustrating why he is one of the most talented cricketers on the planet and why England will not look beyond him.
 
Concur. Bairstow for the next test, not that he is any better. The best wicketkeeper in the country continues to be unutilised.

Who is the best keeper these days?
I remember Read (?) used to be fancied as a good keeper. Still him or is Foakes now?
 
Buttler once again illustrating why he is one of the most talented cricketers on the planet and why England will not look beyond him.

The rest of their batting is dire.

Can Butler play as a batsman and simply pick a better wicketkeeper. Stokes ability with the bat & ball surely means they have the balance/flexibility.
 
The rest of their batting is dire.

Can Butler play as a batsman and simply pick a better wicketkeeper. Stokes ability with the bat & ball surely means they have the balance/flexibility.

Could drop the chronically out of form Pope (Shermanator Mk 2) and play Buttler as a specialist batter at 6.

Then Bairstow to keep, and bat at 7.
 
The rest of their batting is dire.

Can Butler play as a batsman and simply pick a better wicketkeeper. Stokes ability with the bat & ball surely means they have the balance/flexibility.

Stokes looks mentally shot to me. I think the 2019 heroics are a distant memory now and he is a quitter these days. An early, out of the blue retirement shouldn’t be out of the question. He has checked out.
 
Cameron Green is all set to become the next big all-rounder in world cricket. The kid has everything. Could be one of the cricketers of the 2020-2030 decade.
 
Australia deserve to win the game — congratulations to them — but this has been a decent last day effort from England tbh, 4 down overnight & not far off taking it into the last hour.
 
Cameron Green is all set to become the next big all-rounder in world cricket. The kid has everything. Could be one of the cricketers of the 2020-2030 decade.

:qdkcheeky:faheem:srt

Going to quote this when he turns out to be bang average against any half decent side.

Anyway, England to survive a min of 21 overs with just a single wicket? Could be a great draw but I doubt it, Broad's batting has been terrible for years now.
 
And...that's that haha I missed the final wicket but England shameful yet again. Root is carrying 10 pieces of dead weight with him.
 
Buttler once again illustrating why he is one of the most talented cricketers on the planet and why England will not look beyond him.

Sure enough against a Australian attack missing Cummins and Hazlewood. He is a failed test cricketer
 
Australia 2-0. 3 more to go.

Last 12 matches in Australia (Ashes):-

Australia 11-0 England

Looks like some sort of streak this.
 
The poms try to be too funky and innovative with there selection and tactics.Same mistakes made in India when they were 1-0 up.
They really do live in some weird bubble.
 
I can’t help quite liking this Australian team. Is that bad?
 
The poms try to be too funky and innovative with there selection and tactics.Same mistakes made in India when they were 1-0 up.
They really do live in some weird bubble.

Seems like they did the complete opposite. They picked 5 off the same bowler for this match and left out the only potentially "funky" bowlers they have in the express fast bowler and the left arm spinner.
 
England have lost their 8th Test match this year. The worst record in a year is by Bangladesh who lost 9 games in a calendar year. England still will be playing the Boxing Day Test.
 
Sure enough against a Australian attack missing Cummins and Hazlewood. He is a failed test cricketer

Credit where it is due, please. If he were to be dismissed cheaply, everyone would be criticizing him for not showing fight.

Now that he survived 207 balls in the fourth innings against Starc and Lyon, and produced a defensive spectacle that would have made Boycott proud, we are refusing to give him credit because XYZ didn’t play.

Some people have made up their mind that Buttler is not a Test cricketer. When he fails they criticize him, and when he does well they say he got lucky.

People wanted him dropped in before the summer of 2020 and then he proved them wrong against West Indies and Pakistan when he was by far England’s best batsman during those two series.

There is no doubt he hasn’t been consistent, but performances like 2020 English season and the heroic effort that he produced today when everyone expected him to have a 30 min stay at the crease illustrates why England continue to believe that he is the best wicket-keeper batsman in the country.
 
Seems like they did the complete opposite. They picked 5 off the same bowler for this match and left out the only potentially "funky" bowlers they have in the express fast bowler and the left arm spinner.

Leaving Broad out in Brisbane. Not playing Wood. Just too much of data driven decision making.
 
England need to get bowling combination for next test right. The batting is a lost cause, i can even see them losing in hobart. 5-0 unless one test is rained off.
 
Jos butterfingers butler did alright in the 2nd innings but his drops have been very costly for the team.
He is simply not a test material.He should be dumped for good.
 
Australia go 2-0 up despite England's fightback

Australia sealed a 275-run victory against England on day five of the second Ashes Test in Adelaide with Jhye Richardson taking his maiden five-for.

The comprehensive victory keeps Australia at top of the ICC Men's World Test Championship standings.

Resilience was the need of the hour for England to have any chance of salvaging the Test match. But a fired-up Mitchell Starc had different ideas. A change of angle paid rich dividends as he got Ollie Pope poking at a delivery from round the wicket. Steve Smith proved to be a safe pair of hands as the England batter had to walk back for 4.

Survival though would be a big task ahead for the visitors with the Australians attacking from both ends – Starc mixing up his line and length with some clever variations while Nathan Lyon getting some vicious turn from a day five Adelaide pitch.

The pressure would finally pay off as Lyon trapped Ben Stokes which was initially adjudged not out by the umpire. Smith decided to review the call and it proved to be a masterstroke as the replays showed three reds on the screen. Stokes would be gone for 12.

Jos Buttler (16*) and Chris Woakes (28*) would negotiate the remainder of the first session despite a disciplined effort from the hosts.

Woakes and Buttler continued to frustrate the Australian bowlers with their resilient defence. The new ball also couldn't do the trick as the partnership between the pair was now up to 61. Woakes was approaching his fifty as Buttler looked comfortable in the 20s.

But Jhye Richardson would finally deliver the breakthrough, getting one to nip back one in sharply off the surface; Woakes was bowled after a resolute knock of 44.

Buttler then embarked on another frustrating partnership for the Australians alongside Ollie Robinson. The pair dug it out in the middle with the clear aim of blocking and leaving as many deliveries as possible.

But a clever variation from Nathan Lyon brought the next wicket. Bowling round the wicket, the ball from the spinner went away with the angle, inciting an edge off Robinson's bat. Smith took a sharp catch as Robinson went back into the hut for 8.

Buttler and Broad saw out the rest of the session unscathed, going into the final phase of the match needing to survive 26 overs.

However, Buttler departed soon after tea in unfortunate circumstances. Facing off against Richardson, he went deep into his crease and stepped onto the stumps to be dismissed hit wicket; bringing an end to his gritty 207-ball knock of 26 with Australia now only one wicket away from a victory.

The final blow was delivered by Richardson which saw him complete his maiden five-for in Test cricket. A short delivery was too good for James Anderson to handle as he poked at the ball, which was scooped up by Cameron Green at gully.

It sealed a 275-run victory for Australia as they went 2-0 up in the series with the third Test beginning in Melbourne on 26 December.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/2424070
 
Stokes looks mentally shot to me. I think the 2019 heroics are a distant memory now and he is a quitter these days. An early, out of the blue retirement shouldn’t be out of the question. He has checked out.

Harsh analysis. He's made an early comeback from injury & been launched straight into the intensity of the Ashes without ANY cricket coming in, let alone a proper warm up game or two.
 
Cameron Green is all set to become the next big all-rounder in world cricket. The kid has everything. Could be one of the cricketers of the 2020-2030 decade.

He absolutely could. Has very much just been feeling his way in Test cricket though. Does not have the steel or desire in him like a Stokes or Imran or others. It might come later, a bit like Freddie Flintoff spent a few years as a kind of bumbly (but talented) kid in the team before he really found himself.
 
And...that's that haha I missed the final wicket but England shameful yet again. Root is carrying 10 pieces of dead weight with him.

Roots awful decision right from BEFORE the first test (selection), batting first at the Gabba & getting blown away, not picking a spinner in Adelaide etc etc are half the reason England are in this mess.
 
Roots awful decision right from BEFORE the first test (selection), batting first at the Gabba & getting blown away, not picking a spinner in Adelaide etc etc are half the reason England are in this mess.

Is Root's captaincy a problem? For sure but it's not why the team is losing. There's 5 batters who are earning a free pay check, there's bowlers who are dibbly dobblers...now selection is a big part in this. If Archer is gone and Wood is always injured, why is Mhamood, who has pace, bounce and swing and has proven he can play in multiple locales not being picked?

So I agree but as a player Root is carrying the team, a boat full of dead weight.
 
Leaving Broad out in Brisbane. Not playing Wood. Just too much of data driven decision making.

That is an over-simplified reason. Wood is no Cummins. Anderson was always going to play. Broad bowled superbly on day 1. Was a bit unlucky not to pick up more wickets? Robinson was also not bad. Woakes was the only mistake. But they needed somebody to bat down the order. Australia doesn't have their great bowlers either. You cannot drop catches for one thing. Batting is a colossal failure. This pitch was not at all hard to bat on. You cannot implode like this.
 
Captain Joe Root lamented England "making the same mistakes" as they crashed to a 275-run defeat to Australia in Adelaide to leave themselves facing a herculean task to regain the Ashes.

Jos Buttler dropped anchor for 26 from 207 balls and Chris Woakes contributed 44 from 97 as England dug in on the final day in Adelaide before slipping to defeat in the final session.

We've got three massive games now, with the Ashes on the line. If that's not motivation enough, I don't know what is. I'm convinced we've got what we need to win Test matches over here but we're not going to if we keep missing chances and don't give ourselves an opportunity to get into the Test match with the bat.

England must now do what only one side has done previously - come back from 2-0 down to win an Ashes series 3-2 - and Root says Buttler's resolve offers a "great example" moving forward.

The tourists have been dismissed for 147, 297, 236 and 192 in their four innings in this series and made a plethora of errors in the field, while Root also felt his side failed to bowl the right length as they followed a nine-wicket drubbing in Brisbane with another heavy loss in the pink-ball Test.

Speaking to BT Sport, Root said: "The reason it is disappointing is that we made the same mistakes.

"We could have bowled a lot fuller on the first day as in the second innings as soon as we got the ball up there we created all sorts of problems and chances.

"We needed to make Australia play more and we weren't brave enough at times to get the ball up there and create those chances.

"With the bat, we need to be better, need to make bigger scores. Guys need to apply themselves better. Look at the second innings. That's the desire, the attitude, the way we need to go.

"We are going to need to play with that mentality for the rest of the series, which we are more than capable of doing. It's frustrating as I know we are good enough to do it. We have just not managed to do it so far."

England's selection came into question for the second Test running as after omitting senior seamers James Anderson and Stuart Broad on a green pitch at the Gabba, they left out their fastest bowler Mark Wood and frontline spinner Jack Leach on a dry Adelaide surface.

Root told BT Sport: "It's easy at the end of a match to sit back and look at how you could rejig things, whether it be selection, whether it be tactically within the game.

"Whenever you lose you always look at those things and it's something we'll address in the next couple of days ahead of the next game [the Boxing Day Test at the MCG].

"You are always trying to find ways of exploiting conditions and in these sort of environments it's not just the wicket, it's the ball under lights.

"It probably didn't behave exactly how we thought it would. We probably thought there was going to be more movement but I don't think we bowled the right length."

Speaking to BT Sport, Root's predecessor as England Test captain, Sir Alastair Cook, said: "Ultimately England are ruing the fact they've made too many mistakes in these two games.

"The fielding isn't as good as Australia's. The decision-making off the field hasn't been good enough. You can't afford, on a tour like this, to make mistakes.

"Hindsight is the easiest place to come from but we've gone into this tour saying they are going to be the best prepared England team.

"Yes, there have been some circumstances that they can't have avoided, like the Covid situation, the weather they had.

"But they turned up to play the biggest Ashes game, which is the first one where you set the tone for the series, and played a bowling attack that had never played before.

"Where's the planning? That's the bit I found frustrating. It's simple mistakes, avoidable mistakes."

Buttler gave England an outside chance of salvaging a draw by playing his longest Ashes innings and the second-longest of his Test career, only to then tread on his stumps while facing Jhye Richardson.

Buttler's exit left England nine down and Richardson then removed Anderson to condemn England to an 11th loss in 12 away Ashes Tests, with it now 4,000 days since they last won a Test in Australia.

Root said: "It was heart-breaking to see Jos get out like that because it was a wonderful performance from him.

"It's a great example to the rest of the guys. That's the determination, the desire that you need to go and win out here.

"For our whole batting group, I hope they look at that and we get a good positive response off the back of it because the way Jos has gone about things - his mentality, in particular - was outstanding."

https://www.skysports.com/cricket/n...istakes-as-they-tumbled-to-defeat-in-adelaide
 
I fancied the English to win this series. Seems as Aussies will win it 5-0!
 
The rest of their batting is dire.

Can Butler play as a batsman and simply pick a better wicketkeeper. Stokes ability with the bat & ball surely means they have the balance/flexibility.

Buttler isn’t good enough to bat in the top six. We tried that for 25 tests and it failed.

Difficult to know who is good enough to bat except Root and Stokes.

It’s time for a clearout. Bairstow, Buttler, Anderson and Broad should never play tests again.

Build a new side around Root, Stokes, Foakes, Wood, Robinson, Leach and Mahmood.
 
Build a new side around Root, Stokes, Foakes, Wood, Robinson, Leach and Mahmood.

Fair enough, a good backbone of players there, with Root and Stokes already being established Test class and the others all having the potential to become so. But where are the batters? :(
 
Fair enough, a good backbone of players there, with Root and Stokes already being established Test class and the others all having the potential to become so. But where are the batters? :(
Aus haven't looked that great with the bat. Worst feeling must be knowing this Aus team isn't great and you're still going to get swept 5-0.

England infact are just that dreadful in these conditions.
 
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I fancied the English to win this series. Seems as Aussies will win it 5-0!
Warner and Smith are no longer in their primes but Aus still should have been fancied. England have lost 9 Tests this year and their batting line up is probably the worst among top teams in Test cricket atm.
 
Fair enough, a good backbone of players there, with Root and Stokes already being established Test class and the others all having the potential to become so. But where are the batters? :(

I can’t think of any really.

Liam Livingstone might be worth a go.
 
Aus haven't looked that great with the bat. Worst feeling must be knowing this Aus team isn't great and you're still going to get swept 5-0.

England infact are just that dreadful in these conditions.

Not sure as I agree. They are all playing well below their capabilities, even Root. The veterans bowlers let the team down by bowling too short. The newbies copy their errors.

However Buttler is a substandard keeper who has given decisive runs away through dropped catches and standing back too far, so the nicks don’t carry to slip. This could be fixed by promoting Foakes from the Lions.
 
Not sure as I agree. They are all playing well below their capabilities, even Root. The veterans bowlers let the team down by bowling too short. The newbies copy their errors.

However Buttler is a substandard keeper who has given decisive runs away through dropped catches and standing back too far, so the nicks don’t carry to slip. This could be fixed by promoting Foakes from the Lions.

England dont have the players to win in these conditions. Your bowlers didnt bowl short. They bowled the same lengths that the Aussies did.
 
England dont have the players to win in these conditions. Your bowlers didnt bowl short. They bowled the same lengths that the Aussies did.

Not on the first day. Which Root and Smith have both noted in their post-match comments.
 
Not on the first day. Which Root and Smith have both noted in their post-match comments.

Theres a trade off to bowling fuller as Broad clarified. You will leak runs faster while looking for wickets. And if those wickets dont come, all the pundits would blame the bowlers for bowling too full.

The issue is pace. Bowling full in the 120's is a recipe for disaster especially when bowling full is generally unsuccessful in Australia.

In the end, length wasnt the issue. Pace was.
 
England dont have the players to win in these conditions. Your bowlers didnt bowl short. They bowled the same lengths that the Aussies did.

But they are quicker. England should have pitched it up.
 
Not on the first day. Which Root and Smith have both noted in their post-match comments.

Silverwood has had a “brutally honest talk” with the team, according to Wood.

Hope they told him what they think of him :)))
 
Silverwood has had a “brutally honest talk” with the team, according to Wood.

Hope they told him what they think of him :)))

Silverwood is on his last legs, if they don’t come back and tie the series somehow (which they won’t) then he is a goner.
 
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