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saffer said:
Makkers up to decent pace (140's) here. A bit quicker than Ahtar in the last two games so I suppose around militirary medium .
What a retarted post. I'd like to see Ntini hit 140s after 16 months out of the game. Still Akhtar hit 145 + on dead tracks. Save your wits.
 
LightSpeedGT said:
What a retarted post. I'd like to see Ntini hit 140s after 16 months out of the game. Still Akhtar hit 145 + on dead tracks. Save your wits.

Ntini>>>>>>>>>>>>Akhtar

1/144 after 25 overs.

Speaking of actions, Botha on to...ahem...cough....."bowl"
 
Projected score from here?

I reckon Aus would be disappointed if they didn't end up with around 300 after this start.
 
I think anything under 500 from here is a horrible batting performance :)))

but that's me of course.
 
LightSpeedGT said:
What a retarted post. I'd like to see Ntini hit 140s after 16 months out of the game. Still Akhtar hit 145 + on dead tracks. Save your wits.
I'd like to see Ntini out of the game for 16 months in the first place.
 
why didnt ponting walk then!!!!! he lobbed up a clean catch 15 yards in front of him! botha is definitely a chucker though.
 
f.b.m said:
I'd like to see Ntini out of the game for 16 months in the first place.


Well maybe if shoaib avoided certain....*cough...."permormance enhancers" he wouldn't need to be ought the game for 16 months.

Why does everyone on this site keep ignoring the wooly mammoth in the room ?
 
Yes ! Dumminy on...expect at least 5 batsmn clean bowled from the ball spinning back from point.
 
godzilla said:
why didnt ponting walk then!!!!! he lobbed up a clean catch 15 yards in front of him! botha is definitely a chucker though.


Agreed it's bordering close to those 15 degrees....but stop Botha bowling and allow muralotharan ? No...sorry.....that's a joke.
 
saffer said:
Agreed it's bordering close to those 15 degrees....but stop Botha bowling and allow muralotharan ? No...sorry.....that's a joke.
More like this post is a joke. Murali has a certain condition of the arm and Botha doesnt. Not very hard to understand, really.

Edit: this.
 
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f.b.m said:
More like this post is a joke. Murali has a certain condition of the arm and Botha doesnt. Not very hard to understand, really.

Edit: this.


Oh please ! Condition or not that guy massively throws the ball.
 
given our chucker has pretty much gone, i dont care. ban all of the cheating chuckers!
 
also with some serious tail here to come. S.A could restrict them below 300 easily now,
 
R.A. I have a serious question.

I have never rated Haddin in any part of this game. Is he seriously the best keeper/batsman OZ have in their ranks? He doesnt even have age on his side. Is there anyone in the ranks except for Luke Ronchi and why isnt Ronchi in the team for ODIs atleast?
 
great spell my botha....very under-rated. He spins the ball , loads of variation in pace etc...really should be in the test team.

Very good bastman too.
 
saffer said:
great spell my botha....very under-rated. He spins the ball , loads of variation in pace etc...really should be in the test team.

Very good bastman too.

I dont think you can call what Botha does as bowling.
 
saffer said:
also with some serious tail here to come. S.A could restrict them below 300 easily now,

what tail dude, they bat down to 10.
 
saffer said:
great spell my botha....very under-rated. He spins the ball , loads of variation in pace etc...really should be in the test team.

Very good bastman too.

all of thats true, i would definitely love to see him play baseball.
 
saffer said:
Well maybe if shoaib avoided certain....*cough...."permormance enhancers" he wouldn't need to be ought the game for 16 months.

Why does everyone on this site keep ignoring the wooly mammoth in the room ?

It is kinda funny.
 
johnson in now.......clean bowled off a yorker by steyn frst up for my money.
 
f.b.m said:
More like this post is a joke. Murali has a certain condition of the arm and Botha doesnt. Not very hard to understand, really.

Edit: this.

They both chuck. Pretty easy to understand.

Although I think Botha's last over was only at 14.7 degree chucking so that is OK.

Will be good when Murali retires and we can get these joke bowlers (who are only allowed to chuck because he does) out of the game for good.

And that report is rubbish - here Murali bowl the ball and we will test if it is legal. Make sure you bowl exactly like in a match of course. Of course, sure I will there is nothing riding on the result except my livelihood.
 
Viv_rav said:
R.A. I have a serious question.

I have never rated Haddin in any part of this game. Is he seriously the best keeper/batsman OZ have in their ranks? He doesnt even have age on his side. Is there anyone in the ranks except for Luke Ronchi and why isnt Ronchi in the team for ODIs atleast?

It is fair to say that Haddin has not replicated his domestic form on the international stage. But his performance at domestic level has been consistently good so he has a lot of credits.

Ronchi is not around because he has not made any runs this season. There are a few other options but Haddin will get a decent go first as they are all pretty young.
 
Ball must have seamed in a little....because it missed he edge of johnsons bat for a change.
 
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Dumminy is a legend !

Johnson the petender exposed !
 
saffer said:
oh please. Johnson;s test runs were 90% past second slip.

91.5 Morkel to Johnson, FOUR, stand and deliver! After the short ball, Morkel overcompensates with a full delivery and Johnson just gets to the pitch and smears it through extra cover, real proper like, before anyone could move

94.5 Ntini to Johnson, FOUR, fetch that! Johnson gets a wee bit of room and carves the ball square of the pitch with a blooming cut shot, no footwork at all but when you can time them that well, who needs to move your feet?

103.3 Steyn to Johnson, FOUR, crickey, thats a perfectly timed stroke from Johnson with plenty of force, doesn't move an inch but punches and lets the pace of the ball do all the work to the deep cover-point boundary

103.6 Steyn to Johnson, FOUR, bang, thats four! Sheer brute force from Johnson, cracking his ninth boundary, this one off the back foot through cover before the fielders could react

108.5 Harris to Johnson, FOUR, this was a matter of time, Harris tossed it up gently and Johnson was down the pitch, hitting it cleanly, flat and hard over mid-on's head, he's such a powerful hitter in that region, with one of the most cleanest swings in the global game right now

119.3 Kallis to Johnson, FOUR, top shot, standing tall in his crease and punching the ball down the ground




Just a question Saffer, do you actually think about what you write before you hit the submit button.
 
Something about Australia's batting just isn't right in this series. It's nothing to do with personal, that's never been a problem with Australia before. I really think Australia's confidence in itself is at its lowest ebb its been in over a decade. The backing yourself attitude just doesn't seem to be their, excluding Warner. Still a good side, just strange to watch.
 
Random Aussie said:
And that report is rubbish - here Murali bowl the ball and we will test if it is legal. Make sure you bowl exactly like in a match of course. Of course, sure I will there is nothing riding on the result except my livelihood.
Yeah, sure I'll take the word of some armchair expert over a bunch of experienced biomechanics boffins and Bruce Yardley.
 
Fish said:
91.5 Morkel to Johnson, FOUR, stand and deliver! After the short ball, Morkel overcompensates with a full delivery and Johnson just gets to the pitch and smears it through extra cover, real proper like, before anyone could move

94.5 Ntini to Johnson, FOUR, fetch that! Johnson gets a wee bit of room and carves the ball square of the pitch with a blooming cut shot, no footwork at all but when you can time them that well, who needs to move your feet?

103.3 Steyn to Johnson, FOUR, crickey, thats a perfectly timed stroke from Johnson with plenty of force, doesn't move an inch but punches and lets the pace of the ball do all the work to the deep cover-point boundary

103.6 Steyn to Johnson, FOUR, bang, thats four! Sheer brute force from Johnson, cracking his ninth boundary, this one off the back foot through cover before the fielders could react

108.5 Harris to Johnson, FOUR, this was a matter of time, Harris tossed it up gently and Johnson was down the pitch, hitting it cleanly, flat and hard over mid-on's head, he's such a powerful hitter in that region, with one of the most cleanest swings in the global game right now

119.3 Kallis to Johnson, FOUR, top shot, standing tall in his crease and punching the ball down the ground




Just a question Saffer, do you actually think about what you write before you hit the submit button.


Say it anway you like...johnson is a talentless hack as a batsman , whose been nothing but lucky. Time will prove me right.
 
wow. hautitz out, i have the kiss of death. lets try it: bracken : 4
 
f.b.m said:
Yeah, sure I'll take the word of some armchair expert over a bunch of experienced biomechanics boffins and Bruce Yardley.

Why must this chucking controversy come up with Murali all the time. Their's heaps of pingers getting away with it in the international and domestic scene. Bird from NSW pings the odd ball, Harbhajan, Pushpakumara, etc...
 
Momo said:
Thanks RA. 275 a par score, you reckon?

Doubt it with our bowling "attack". But above 250 is a good score in Australia in general, usually makes for a decent match.

Hopes and Horrorwitz have to bowl 20 overs between them. Plus we have the oh so reliable Tait. And MJ who is not really an economical bowler.

Strange selections by Australia for this match, no hitters for the final overs and a pretty weak bowling attack.

Tait must strike in the Over Of Doom.
 
I said 277 at the start. It'll be a tough chase for sure. Tired of losing the toss...it's made australia appear as good as south africa....if S.a had won jst 50% of the tosses this series it would be a whitewash in the tests , 20/20s and odi's.
 
commentators talking about the pitch having slowed down over the course of this innings, and that its going to be tough to chase..
 
f.b.m said:
Yeah, sure I'll take the word of some armchair expert over a bunch of experienced biomechanics boffins and Bruce Yardley.

Riiiiiiggghhhtt.

So you think a bowler, knowing he is being tested, would bowl his deliveries exactly the same as in a match situation where he is really trying to rip the ball when he is being tested? Knowing that if the tests come back badly for him that is the end of his career as an international cricketer?

Want to answer that?
 
saffer said:
Say it anway you like...johnson is a talentless hack as a batsman , whose been nothing but lucky. Time will prove me right.

Always quality. :) :)) :)))

I think he's somewhere in between hack and Ponting.
 
saffer said:
Say it anway you like...johnson is a talentless hack as a batsman , whose been nothing but lucky. Time will prove me right.

If thats what you think then fine but SA bowlers must be real hopeless to allow him to score more runs than McKenzie and Boucher in the test series.
 
diondublin said:
Why must this chucking controversy come up with Murali all the time. Their's heaps of pingers getting away with it in the international and domestic scene. Bird from NSW pings the odd ball, Harbhajan, Pushpakumara, etc...

Because Murali is the one they changed the rules for. He is the first blatant chucker to be permitted a long term career in international cricket.

So all the anti chucking heat pretty much gets directed at him, rightly or wrongly.
 
mwhahahahaha


is it me or is shaun tait not the sharest tool in the shed ?

Do the evolution baby !
 
diondublin said:
Why must this chucking controversy come up with Murali all the time. Their's heaps of pingers getting away with it in the international and domestic scene. Bird from NSW pings the odd ball, Harbhajan, Pushpakumara, etc...
Probably because people from a certain country find it a bit hard to digest the fact that he is more successful and a better bowler than some other guy.
 
Random Aussie said:
Riiiiiiggghhhtt.

So you think a bowler, knowing he is being tested, would bowl his deliveries exactly the same as in a match situation where he is really trying to rip the ball when he is being tested? Knowing that if the tests come back badly for him that is the end of his career as an international cricketer?

Want to answer that?

Did you hear about the time Murali bowled in a match with a brace, which didn't allow him to chuck the ball. Apparently Slater who played said he spun the ball like usual. Make of it what you like.
 
hahah 269 all out. tait shat himself to steyn and was in shock when he got bat on ball and forgot to run. that was funny.
 
Random Aussie said:
Because Murali is the one they changed the rules for. He is the first blatant chucker to be permitted a long term career in international cricket.
Yeah, have the old rules and you can see Ramnaresh Sarwan bowling all day.
 
Fish said:
If thats what you think then fine but SA bowlers must be real hopeless to allow him to score more runs than McKenzie and Boucher in the test series.

Game, set and match.
 
f.b.m said:
Probably because people from a certain country find it a bit hard to digest the fact that he is more successful and a better bowler than some other guy.

Nah. I'll clear he reason up for you. Theother guys you mentioned are marginal.

Muralitharan throws the ball so extremely blatantly that it's a total farce he;s even allowed in a country that plays cricket.He's a total thrower...theres not even a debate about it.
 
Random Aussie said:
So you think a bowler, knowing he is being tested, would bowl his deliveries exactly the same as in a match situation where he is really trying to rip the ball when he is being tested? Knowing that if the tests come back badly for him that is the end of his career as an international cricketer?

Want to answer that?
Did you actually read that report? Get atleast as far as the introduction before posting rubbish.
 
f.b.m said:
Yeah, have the old rules and you can see Ramnaresh Sarwan bowling all day.

You saying all quality spin bowlers chuck? Off spinners I'd agree to an extent.
 
saffer said:
mwhahahahaha


is it me or is shaun tait not the sharest tool in the shed ?

Do the evolution baby !

:)) No Tait is strictly a bowler, don't expect him to bat, don't expect him to field.
 
diondublin said:
Game, set and match.


Boucher didn't have to bat in 2 of the 6 innings. Mckenzie was on poor form. Johnson is'\ rubbish...he should bat 11 in my local club team. And een then if I was captain I'd save time and declare before he even came in.
 
diondublin said:
Did you hear about the time Murali bowled in a match with a brace, which didn't allow him to chuck the ball. Apparently Slater who played said he spun the ball like usual. Make of it what you like.

So if he can bowl without chucking it why does he chuck it then?

Because he gets more spin on the ball that way.
 
Random Aussie said:
So if he can bowl without chucking it why does he chuck it then?

Because he gets more spin on the ball that way.


Look , he chucks !!!! Helen Keller could see that !

There's no debate. Theres moe evidence for the loch ness monster and the yeti than there us for murali not chucking. Give it up !!!
 
diondublin said:
You saying all quality spin bowlers chuck? Off spinners I'd agree to an extent.
I dont say that all good spinners chuck, but loads of them (who were tested, there's another big article/study on that) had an elbow flex of more than 5deg. Even guys like McGrath and Pollock were "chucking" according to the old rules.

Ramnaresh Sarwan was the only guy with no 0 degree elbow flexing.

Murali is a strange case. He has an arm that wouldnt straighten and rotates the whole thing to give a good illusion of chucking. I dont care if others get that or not but like I said, its not very hard to understand.
 
saffer said:
Boucher didn't have to bat in 2 of the 6 innings. Mckenzie was on poor form. Johnson is'\ rubbish...he should bat 11 in my local club team. And een then if I was captain I'd save time and declare before he even came in.

Boucher batted 4 times for an average of 30, Johnson batted 5 times for an average of 36. McKenzie batted 6 times for an average of 24.

Johnson would probably bat at 5 or 6 for SA.
 
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