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Quite well.
KP has always been a popular figure here as well.
Would be nice if he were around for more than just South Africa and England series
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Australia v South Africa | Austrlia win 3rd Test against South Africa by 7 wickets in Adelaide
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Quite well.
KP has always been a popular figure here as well.
Would be nice if he were around for more than just South Africa and England series
So you're advocating they should've declared when then were 150 odd for 7/8 wickets down
See?
Two wickets in 60 overs of daylight.
Three quick wickets in twilight with the new ball.
And now it's dark but with stable lighting, batting is easier again.
No, they know where it pitched but for the ball hitting the wickets its just a projection so it has a bit of guess work involved.
And yesterday it was 8 wickets in 60 overs of daylight and 1 in twilight.
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Starcy what are ya doing. Stahp!
Day one, live grass.
By the way, huge crowds again this year.
Thursday Day 1: 33,000 (a non-Ashes Thursday record apart from MCG Boxing Day Tests)
Friday Day 2: 38,000
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Top knock from Uzzy. Needs to turn it into a double now 
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South Africa 259/9d Australia 307/6 (102.0 ov)
Australia lead by 48 runs with 4 wickets remaining in the 1st innings.
Australia lead by 48 runs with 4 wickets remaining in the 1st innings.
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Your missing the point.
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You can't base all your tactics around 1 hour of the day's play surely. If you perform poorly in that hour, you are stuffed. Risky.
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THE Standard Bank Proteas trio of fast bowlers captured three wickets for 10 runs with the second new ball to cap Australia’s potential first innings advantage on the second night of the third Test match at the Adelaide Oval on Friday.
Australia’s hero of the day, Usman Khawaja, had scored his fifth Test match century and his first against South Africa and shared partnerships of 137 for the third wicket with Steve Smith and 99 for the fourth with debutant Peter Handscomb. On the back of this foundation Australia looked set to take the game away from the Proteas as they took the first innings lead with only three wickets down.
But, by the close, the Proteas had restricted that lead to 48 runs with the home side only having four wickets left in the bank.
One of those, however, is that of Khawaja who finished unbeaten on 138 (285 balls, 12 fours), having batted for more than a day. It was the first century scored by the Australians in the series and it was also the first time that the home side had managed to bat for a full day.
He will be key to Australia turning their current advantage into something very significant. So far, Mitchell Starc has helped him add 24 for the seventh wicket although the latter got the rub of the green when a successful lbw appeal by Vernon Philander was reversed literally by a couple of millimetres.
Khawaja is certainly Australia’s form player at the moment, having scored more than 100 runs more than any of his team mates with an average in the mid-70s.
Smith and Handscomb both got half-centuries with the former being run out in what may turn out to be a key wicket given away by the hosts.
The South African bowled largely without luck. Kagiso Rabada produced the delivery of the day to knock over another debutant, Nick Maddinson, without scoring, while Kyle Abbott carried forward his good form from Hobart to have a return of 3/38 in 25 overs.
Australia’s hero of the day, Usman Khawaja, had scored his fifth Test match century and his first against South Africa and shared partnerships of 137 for the third wicket with Steve Smith and 99 for the fourth with debutant Peter Handscomb. On the back of this foundation Australia looked set to take the game away from the Proteas as they took the first innings lead with only three wickets down.
But, by the close, the Proteas had restricted that lead to 48 runs with the home side only having four wickets left in the bank.
One of those, however, is that of Khawaja who finished unbeaten on 138 (285 balls, 12 fours), having batted for more than a day. It was the first century scored by the Australians in the series and it was also the first time that the home side had managed to bat for a full day.
He will be key to Australia turning their current advantage into something very significant. So far, Mitchell Starc has helped him add 24 for the seventh wicket although the latter got the rub of the green when a successful lbw appeal by Vernon Philander was reversed literally by a couple of millimetres.
Khawaja is certainly Australia’s form player at the moment, having scored more than 100 runs more than any of his team mates with an average in the mid-70s.
Smith and Handscomb both got half-centuries with the former being run out in what may turn out to be a key wicket given away by the hosts.
The South African bowled largely without luck. Kagiso Rabada produced the delivery of the day to knock over another debutant, Nick Maddinson, without scoring, while Kyle Abbott carried forward his good form from Hobart to have a return of 3/38 in 25 overs.
No, your logic is as flawed as it comes. 4th AUS wicket went on 86th over - with 2nd ball and exactly at similar time FaF declared yesterday. 90 overs days - they bowled 14 yesterday and the game was 15 minutes slow; I'll not be surprised if the 4th wicket went down exactly to the minute yesterday Aussie openers came to bat. By your logic, AUS should have been 300 all out, as SAF got the new ball today exactly 40 minutes before yesterday's declaration time and should have cleaned the tail.
You put lots of theory Green/brown grass, Pink ball, day light - everything is secondary. The key is bowling or batting well - condition can assist only to some extent as long as you do the basics. Yesterday Aussie new ball pair bowled exceptionally well; this morning Abbott did so; while Khawaja & Faf played 2 outstanding innings.
By your "strategy", AUS should have declared at 260/3 to use the twilight time & hope to get SAF 70/5 by day end!!!
I'm there.
And this is factually incorrect.
Last night South Africa bowled 12 overs on Day 1 with the new ball, from 8.45 pm to 9.30 pm. It was night-time.
On Day 2 they bowled 22 overs with the second new ball, taking wickets in the 6th, 9th and 10th when it was twilight but none at all in the last 12 overs - just like yesterday. They again finished at 9.30 pm.
I have studied pink ball Sheffield Shield cricket closely, and these Adelaide pink ball Tests resemble that more than other Test cricket.
And wickets fall to the new ball at twilight, not at night time.
I have to disagree with you boss - wicket fell to good bowling & catching, may be condition might be more conducive to bowling at twilight time; but that's not new in cricket - there are different periods of a day in a Day Test as well. My point was your thought process of "SAF has lost the Test, because they didn't declare 35 minutes early". In Day Test, first 40-45 minutes of a Day always helps the pacers, particularly with new ball - how many times, teams have declared over-night on 302/6 just to take the advantage of that 45 minutes?
And, just to prove your flawed logic, you are knit-picking - AUS's last 2 wickets went on 89'5 & 90'5 over. By your logic, yesterday, by 2nd over AUS should have been 2 down. And, during your window of "night", Starc survived probably by a millimeter ....... Wicket won't fell in twilight if you bowl/catch poor or the batsmen plays exceptionally well - but yes, it might be helpful to bowl under changing light. Yesterday, Azhar put NZ in & that must be a horrible decision, as NZ ended at 77/2 @ 3.6 -with a foot note that Raval was dropped of a sitter on 3rd ball of the match & then Sohail, Wahab, Imran bowled absolute rubbish - green, brown, dusty wicket or morning, afternoon, twilight won't have mattered much with that sort of bowling & catching.
Tactical declaration is part of the game - it's not D/N Test specific. Once Athers (Or Gooch) declared with Hick at 98* (SCG), so that his bowlers can have 30 minutes before tea (one more over, there would have been an early Tea); another time Imran declared himself on 97 or 98; for same reason against SRL. But, here we have to see at what extent - you are putting 99% emphasis on bowling with new ball in that 45 minutes & the Test match is decided; which is absolutely hilarious - be it Pink or Red ball game. Personally, I think the match is evenly poised still now as AUS will have to chase against Shamshi & Rabada on Day 4/5 here. If SAF restricts AUS under 100 lead & bat well against new ball; they will be in drivers seat going to Day 4 - obviously it'll be difficult for them to survive the hour post dinner with Starc & Josh fresh after 40 minutes rest in twilight. That's the game always had been - play out difficult time & cash on later.
You have put SAF out of the Test, because of 15 minutes delay in declaration (I am going by your facts - Hashcomb was out on 86'1 over - so, by your logic, had Faf Declared with 16 overs at hand, instead of 12, AUS would have been 3 down last light
), which I don't think - next 3 days are in weekends, we'll see almost every ball of the match.
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SA are very much in it if they can minimize the lead to under 100. Anything can happen at this point
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too early imo
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Australia the favourites from here. Need to push the lead to 100 if possible
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Khawaja has been absolute class during this knock. Bound to be one of the best innings played in 2016.
I should do a paparazzi thread.
Staying where the players and commentators always do. So far have passed but politely ignored Ian Chappell, Tubby Taylor, Warnie, KP, Ian Healy, Michael Clarke, Glenn McGrath and Greg Matthews.
Only players have been Elgar and Maharaj though!
As I speak, McGrath has just got up from lunch on the terrace and been stopped by people wanting pictures.
I have to keep reminding myself "I'm a 47 year old grown-up. Leave them in peace!"
Staying where the players and commentators always do. So far have passed but politely ignored Ian Chappell, Tubby Taylor, Warnie, KP, Ian Healy, Michael Clarke, Glenn McGrath and Greg Matthews.
Only players have been Elgar and Maharaj though!
As I speak, McGrath has just got up from lunch on the terrace and been stopped by people wanting pictures.
I have to keep reminding myself "I'm a 47 year old grown-up. Leave them in peace!"
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The match is underway, Australia's lead stands at 50 runs.
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Dead at last.... well played Khawaja
Surely his best and worth all four of his tons last year combined
Surely his best and worth all four of his tons last year combined
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Du Plessis should have declared at dinner on Day 1 at 171-7, in order to bowl Australia out for 70. Only himself to blame for the extra 300 runs scored by the Australians.
I blame the SA selectors, they should have picked Asif.
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Why was Maharaj dropped?
4/162 and Adelaide is not a spinners pitch.
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I personally don't like KPs commentary but that's just me
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SA lost early wicket , Aussies are back here
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Apparently Shamsi is harder to pick with the pink ball.
A gamble, but may be worth it later in the game.
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Nah, you should win this one.
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Put down! Slip fielding has defn gone down across the countries.
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Hope those four runs were worth it.
This is what happens when you pick Geraint Jones. Nevill would have swallowed that and likely would have contributed more than 4 runs with the bat
This is what happens when you pick Geraint Jones. Nevill would have swallowed that and likely would have contributed more than 4 runs with the bat
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Don't want to jinx him, but Amla is looking good. That dropped catch might have made him turn the corner. Welcome back Amla!
Ouch!!
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Amla 45 but could have done more.
Could have been out for 13 too.
The twilight factor makes the next session fascinating.
At the close, 3-200 would favour South Africa slightly.
7-190 means Australia wrap it up by Tea tomorrow.
4-200 would be just about even.
I also think so - ideally SAF should look to finish 180-3 that's around 55/3 with the new ball coming in 10 overs. 2 sessions of batting can set AUS 250 to chase, starting in twilight.
Please explain why Warner is bowling at the start of danger period?
To annoy Faf probably.
I would be moderated if I wrote what I think. Just look up the Nagpur reference.
Ponting was saving his next Test from slow over rate. How much Smith can earn or that one over, you think? I am sure moderators won't edit this.
So Smith is facing a ban if Australia don't bowl all their overs.
Ah, Ricky Ponting was happy to forego a chance at victory in India so he wouldn't miss a home Test against a feeble Kiwi team?
I'm making no accusations. Just saying we have a responsibility to question any premeditated action which makes no cricketing sense.
So you are suggesting that Smith didn't really want to change ends for Starc and was doing something dishonest.
AUS won't have won that Test batting twice - IND batted first & put 441, AUS conceded a lead of almost 100 (355). Even when part-timers ran through with the over-rate, IND was 200/6 or so, a lead of ~300 already ....... then AUS lost by 172 runs, chasing 382. That was the last Test of that Series & SINCE THEN AUS HAS LOST 6 OUT OF 6 IN IND - ALL 6 TIMES WINNING TOSS & 5 TIMES BATTING FIRST.
Do you fancy Panta to be that idiot to forego a chance of beating IND in IND, or do you think us to be that idiot to believe his chances of cleaning Indian last 4 wickets in 12 balls & than chasing 300+ on Day 5 wicket against Bhajji?
Here is the match score card - http://www.espncricinfo.com/indvaus2008/engine/match/345672.html
All your theory for 6 overs bowled by Hussey & White in total, when India's lead was 325.
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Well done Cook 
And I refer you to Smith's captaincy at the start of the final day of the Boxing Day Test v India in 2014-15. When Harris and Marsh crawled to a declaration.
Australia should still win this. But SA have had every opportunity to level the scores.
Well done Cook
He can save his career with a 3 digit innings - won't get a better chance.
Cook, Elgar, De Villiers, FAF, Steyn and Abbott are six men competing for four "white" positions alongside De Kock.
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I honestly think he's done and he knows it. Probably why he's looking/doing better today.
The MCG Test, I have my own explanation - AUS was making sure that they are 2-0 up with 1 Test to go; that's after the Adelaide scare. I would have done exactly same without additional payment.
Here, may be he doesn't rate "Twilight treat" that much like you - preserving one of his 2 bowlers for a last bust. May be, he thought - if Mike & Josh bowls flat-out for 10 overs & Twilight doesn't make it 141/7, he'll be stranded against 2 set batsman, a lead of 35, 8 wickets at hand & a rug (60 overs old Pink Kookaburra).
I see this game in a simpler way ......
I think on a serious note that Starc should have bowled after Hazlewood.
The light is toughest now as the sun is really setting, but Starc is out of the attack.
Lovely game. I love the different ways a Test can evolve.
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That is exactly what 99% of people think.
That would have been a big issue, had those "Non Whites", made the team on their skin color. I don't know at what extent the color quota is applicable, but for me, Vernon, Rabada, Bavuma, JP, Amla & Shamshi is justifying their spot, so no issues - may be Abbott will wait for Styen to retire & AB'll replace Elgar if Cook makes a ton here - Elgar hasn't set fire on ice in this series either .........
Bring me those 1% ......
In life, 80% of people don't think and 19% accept what they are told.
People need to ask the questions, and hopefully the truth is innocent. I've never heard anyone query the 1999 World Cup semi-final even though Cronje was exposed within a year.
Questions are never a bad thing.
Smith is doing excatly what a Captain should have done here - taking out "condition" & playing the game on normal course. He has 125 lead & probably fancy to chase 250 on day 5 - he is trying to keep one end tight & attack from other end, to see out the day. After over night rest, his 2 pacers will get the new ball on 10th over of Day 4 - couple of knocks, they are basically facing 120/5 situation.
His only problem in this game plan is, unlike his recent predecessors, his spinner doesn't have a career of 708 wickets at ~25...... for that, he could have use Bird also; unfortunately, tis time Bird is also not the metronome who could bowl 6/7 maidens in a spell in the 6th hour of the days.......
Problem is, the grass is dead and because it's shorter the ball won't seam.
As we saw in Dubai, Pink Ball cricket without a greentop is quite hard to take wickets in.
Says he as Duminy gets bowled!
Problem is, the grass is dead and because it's shorter the ball won't seam.
As we saw in Dubai, Pink Ball cricket without a greentop is quite hard to take wickets in.
Says he as Duminy gets bowled!
Yes, Lyon was swinging & seeming it big & JP missed the line for "Twilight" visibility (or lack of it).
Problem is, the grass is dead and because it's shorter the ball won't seam.
As we saw in Dubai, Pink Ball cricket without a greentop is quite hard to take wickets in.
Says he as Duminy gets bowled!
Don't you think that apart from brown grass, this wicket has a little bit more Bounce & Pace, compared to that Dubai wicket & the 2; 6'5"+ bowlers bowling here are a little bit more skilled for these wickets than the pacers bowling there?
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