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Australia vs India | 3rd Test | Perth |17/01/08 | Day 2

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With Bhaji not in the team ... Ponting is as good a chance as ever to score big against India.
 
OZGOD said:
If India can get Ponting out before lunch, it will swing the match right back their way.
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Huge wicket - Pathan on a hatrick. OZ's inexperienced opening pair both back in the sheds.
 
asifp said:
Pathan seriously dude , was out. if you slow the ball to 1/100th of the speed and then see the edge , then no umpire in the world can catch that.
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im just saying that whats happening with umpires
they cant seem to judge any sort of lbw
 
dinakar said:
Rauf is quite consistent!! seems he has no idea about LBW.....
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Technology has gone to your head. The guy shuffled his leg stump was visible the ball hit him around middle. How the hell would you not give that out
 
Pathan is creating chances and using the Doctor well.
 
Break News: BCCI to ask ICC to drop Asad Rauf from the elite panel!
 
I just knew Pathan was going to be the surprise factor. He's got his swing back too, and most importantly he's getting the right length
 
very nervous rogers went right across exposed leg stump.. all of his balls were straightening.. that ball didn't straighten.. bit unlucky there rogers.. But in full speed it looked out..
 
Just saw the replay of the Jaques dismissal - he got totally fooled by the outswing.
 
usman_ash14 said:
im just saying that whats happening with umpires
they cant seem to judge any sort of lbw
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and i am saying 100% of the umpires would have given that out.

only with super technology we could see that was not out.

bottom line is we dont use technology to judge lbw (and i am glad)

my point being you cant blame a human to give that out
 
jackal786 said:
very nervous rogers went right across exposed leg stump.. all of his balls were straightening.. that ball didn't straighten.. bit unlucky there rogers.. But in full speed it looked out..
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If you walk across your stumps you can't blame anyone but yourself if you're given out, frankly. It's like offering no shot.
 
i have always been a fan of Pathan...Thanks god that he performed..hope he secures his postion for the next test match too
 
Guys, let's stop arguing about the umpiring - we can debate all those calls till the cows come home but the bottom line is they've been given and that's that. None of them were howlers.
 
Its a longer Aussie tail this time ... so if India get a few more top order batsmen out ... the Aussies could be in a bit of trouble!!!
 
As long as umpires dont do mistake with catches and run-outs and stumping chances, it would be fine.

Make use of technology in these cases
 
OZGOD said:
Guys, let's stop arguing about the umpiring - we can debate all those calls till the cows come home but the bottom line is they've been given and that's that. None of them were howlers.
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i agree.All those decisions were part of his inexperince and lack of idea about Perth pitch .
 
asifp said:
and i am saying 100% of the umpires would have given that out.

only with super technology we could see that was not out.

bottom line is we dont use technology to judge lbw (and i am glad)

my point being you cant blame a human to give that out
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i am more focused on tendulkar's dismissal
when the ball hit his pads the ball was already over stumps

and dhonis well the track is bouncy, he took a big stride forward and the ball hit him on knee roll
 
Indians with their tails up at the moment - there's heaps of chatter out there whenever Ponting plays and misses and the body language is very positive. OZ on the rack - Ponting and Hussey need to hang on.
 
Tendulkar was unlucky..I hope he had got a 100. It would have been good since this is his last tour in Australia
 
Hussey out for 0 first time ever. :O
 
Massive wicket - Hussey gone for a duck on his home ground! India on top at the moment. Pathan using the pitch and breeze beautifully. Like I said yesterday, the WACA is not just for the quicks - the ones who can swing the ball into the breeze will take wickets here too. That's something that has always been a characteristic of the WACA, irrespective of the pitch. It's the Fremantle Doctor effect.

That was a very average shot from Hussey as well.
 
What an utterly absurd shout for lbw. Hit the outside edge, nowhere near the pad
 
Call for LBW, Clarke edges it and it flies through the slips cordon for 4. OZ are under the cosh bigtime. Clarke and Ponting need to rebuild.
 
Daoud said:
What an utterly absurd shout for lbw. Hit the outside edge, nowhere near the pad
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Let's not talk about "intimidatory appealing" though, that's apparently something only we do. :))
 
Ozzi's are finding pace and swing hot to handle! :19:

Good decision to pick 3 fast bowlers by Indians especially Pathan.
 
Pathan and Singh regularly beating the outside edges.
 
Good bowling from the two Indian left armers though. RP Singh building up some pace too
 
Australia in a bit of trouble now. 18/3. Australia trail by 316 runs

They still have Ponting, Clarke, Symonds and Gilchrist though.
 
Top shot by Ponting, 4 through the covers. Risky with the ball swinging so much though
 
DHONI183 said:
Hussey out for 0 first time ever. :O
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Good effort by the Indians so far this series to help this mans Bradmanesque average down even though only slowly.
 
this is usually the time indian bowlers slacken pressure and let the batsmen off the hook...pls guys, keep up the good work. aussies are still capable of getting 400
 
Ponting looks totally at sea at the moment. He'll either get out for below 10 or he'll settle down and make a big one. OZ need him to hang in there.
 
Lunch OZ 3-22. India back in the drivers seat after a mere 8 overs.
 
7 wickets in the first session, and it was supposedly best day to bat on?

Another interesting match on cards...
 
Excellent start by India!! I hope they continue to bowl with the same effort after lunch.

Australia are champions - they will recover from this unless India impose themselves.
 
purplehaze said:
7 wickets in the first session, and it was supposedly best day to bat on?

Another interesting match on cards...
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First day is usually the best day to bat in Perth, mainly because after the first day cracks start to appear on the surface because of the extreme heat and lack of cloud cover. Swing and seam bowlers have always bowled well at the WACA because of the cracks and because of the breeze, particularly if they can generate steepling bounce. If the OZ lose another couple of wickets they could well be rolled for 150 or something.

This match could yet be done in 4 days.
 
Hussey's dismissal emphasized what it is playing on Perth. On any other pitch it wouldn't have caught the upper edge of the bat. That bounce.. is there..
 
OZGOD said:
First day is usually the best day to bat in Perth, mainly because after the first day cracks start to appear on the surface because of the extreme heat and lack of cloud cover. Swing and seam bowlers have always bowled well at the WACA because of the cracks and because of the breeze, particularly if they can generate steepling bounce. If the OZ lose another couple of wickets they could well be rolled for 150 or something.

This match could yet be done in 4 days.
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Wasim was under the opinion that today ball would skid a lot on to the bat making shot playing easy, he pointed that yesterday it was more of a "jump" than "skid" which was not a batsman really likes. For crack, he felt before 4th day, they will not appear into picture!

Pitch reports are really no different than weather or stock market
predictions ...
 
Indian bowlers typically get the ball to swing for 7-9 over max and seam for like 11-17 overs max. Aussies should be looking to give the next 10 overs to India after that, they can sleep here over the rest of the bowling IMO
 
OK OK so India is in the driver's seat or front whichever way you want to call it, but how many times have you seen AUS claw their way back and win tests from these positions ? I think not having Harbhajan will lift Ponting to great Heights in this test match..
 
at start of day the predictions were that there will be more bounce today compared to 1st day, but Taylor or Healy was saying that thre will be more but not that much
 
Romali_rotti said:
OK OK so India is in the driver's seat or front whichever way you want to call it, but how many times have you seen AUS claw their way back and win tests from these positions ? I think not having Harbhajan will lift Ponting to great Heights in this test match..
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So far.. they have done well with not so threatening bowling attack. Let us just savor the moment for now. I am not going to keep my hopes up now.
 
12thMan said:
at start of day the predictions were that there will be more bounce today compared to 1st day, but Taylor or Healy was saying that thre will be more but not that much
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Bounce is there. May be the bowlers didn't hit the right length enough? ofcourse with an exception of Lee.
 
Time and again we have seen the always underrated Indian pace bowling has delivered better than their accomplished counterparts in helpful conditions. I can sight many many examples. Best which comes to my mind is our performance In Toranto against Pakistan. Our gully bowlers like mohanty did better than their giant counterparts like Waqar etc.

from the looks of it, looks like they get the basics right and bowl the right line and length under such conditions. Problem is that they once the help is gone as the ball gets older, they fail to clean up even the tail enders.
 
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Indians need to come even harder after lunch! You let Ponting/Clarke settle and all this work will be useless
 
ponting will be thanking his lucky stars bhajji isn't playing. We should get bhajji to come on as 12th man and give his bunny a little fright
 
tmac4real said:
Indians need to come even harder after lunch! You let Ponting/Clarke settle and all this work will be useless
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Weather is very hot.. So Kumble should juggle the bowlers smartly before any bowler getting blown out.
 
Tupac said:
ponting will be thanking his lucky stars bhajji isn't playing. We should get bhajji to come on as 12th man and give his bunny a little fright
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that'd be hilarious. Just the sight of bajji on the pitch would **** Ponting off. Maybe get a extra ball and have bajji play around with it during drinks to see how Ponting reacts.
 
jackal786 said:
Weather is very hot.. So Kumble should juggle the bowlers smartly before any bowler getting blown out.
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yes, but they just got lunch now, so they have enough rest for now.
 
Man, I have to go to bed soon. I haven't had much sleep the last few days and it's been a struggle to stay awake at work.
 
OZGOD said:
Man, I have to go to bed soon. I haven't had much sleep the last few days and it's been a struggle to stay awake at work.
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Stay Man. Want to show you some chin music from India quickies :P
 
purplehaze said:
Wasim was under the opinion that today ball would skid a lot on to the bat making shot playing easy, he pointed that yesterday it was more of a "jump" than "skid" which was not a batsman really likes. For crack, he felt before 4th day, they will not appear into picture!

Pitch reports are really no different than weather or stock market
predictions ...
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With respect, I think Wasim's a bit off the mark. Two years ago the pitch would have flattened out, but there's enough consistent bounce in there at the moment that suggests that the batsmen will be dealing with vertical and lateral movement today. The cracks are going to start appearing sometime tomorrow I think, which will help the seamers as well as Kumble. Kumble will be a big factor bowling last on this pitch.

It's been a decent Test match pitch overall and underscores what I said at the start - good batsmen can score runs here if they play their shots, while good bowlers can make use of the bounce and the Doctor to try and get wickets. You can't ask for much more from a Test match pitch.
 
Ian Chappell is getting obnoxiously condescending. He says Indians have spread their resources thin and are getting cute, trying to prove they are so smart. No explanation follows.
 
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