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Interesting article in the Tribune (https://dailytimes.com.pk/258612/a-new-player-in-the-political-arena/) which is well worth reading for those who follow politics of Pakistan.

A new player in the political arena

I will vote for AWP because I am tired of rich people becoming richer at the expense of impoverished Pakistanis

Nilofer A Qazi

JUNE 27, 2018

I voted for the Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf (PTI) in 2013. I campaigned for them in both my constituencies of Islamabad, NA 48 and NA 49. A lot has changed in the PTI since then, and little has changed for Pakistan. A little wiser a little older as the saying goes, but progress we must, for there is no other way out of the situation the country is in today. Therefore, I will be supporting and voting Awami Workers Party in 2018 and their progressive candidates Ammar Rashid in NA53 Islamabad (re numbered constituencies), and Ismat Shahjahan in NA54.

I am secular and progressive in my politics and hopefully not a hypocrite. I never joined PTI formally because I was uncomfortable with their pandering to religious sentiments and even worse, selectively and emotionally using faith and scripture politically. We have been manipulated enough for 70 years and I found it disconcerting that a Naya party was following these dated and exploitative footsteps. But naïve and hopeful as I was, I did give ‘them a chance’. That argument as Babar Sattar so brilliantly summarised in his recent piece is the current narrative, but is over and done with-for me.

AWP is a progressive secular and principled political party. It is small and focused. It is fielding two dozen candidates across Pakistan and thankfully in the capital where I am registered. It is small because anything which builds from the grassroots organically takes time to germinate. There is no quick fix here. This is going to be a struggle, but a welcome one. We need cleanliness in our body politic just as we need it in our minds and our environment. Destructive forces can be mitigated if we put in the hard work required. In my opinion, voting for the AWP is planting that seed in Pakistan.

I believe AWP prioritises the people, and that means all of us. Not just the poor or the rich or the Punjabi or the Baloch. Not just the Muslims and not just the men — all of us equally, as citizens of one country. This isn’t just rhetoric, they have actively shown these principles in the seven years since they established themselves as a political party. In how they work and what they prioritise as central to political development. They fielded in our local body elections and three candidates won.

AWP politics and actions have shown they care about those members of our society who are most vulnerable. In other words, those that government should be helping but does not, will not or cannot. Thus, I want them to perform well in the upcoming elections.

Lest we forget, if thieves, murderers, bigots and violent rabble rousers come into power, it is our fault

Why would I vote for them? After all, I don’t belong to the most vulnerable socio-economic class of Pakistanis. I will vote for them because what I cannot do, or don’t want to do, they are willing to do. This is a responsibility they have promised to take off my shoulders. Looking after the most vulnerable segments of society should by something I prioritise as a Muslim, as well as a humanist. How can I not support such an effort?

I will vote for AWP because I am tired of rich people becoming richer at the expense of impoverished Pakistanis. I am tired of the scandals which seem to have become the norm. I want representatives in Parliament and in government to be able, capable, progressive and equal irrespective of caste, creed, class or gender. Child abuse and malnutrition have become rampant yet it seems like no action has been taken. This is no future. More of the same will bring more of the same. A political party that gives importance to the well-being and freedom of the citizens is the party to vote for, and currently the AWP seems like the only such party.

Politics do not have to be based on compromises. Why should they have to be? After all we are talking about representation of our interests. Are our interests exploitative and violent and dangerous? I hope not because I don’t want to sanction such actions in my name. If thieves, murderers, bigots and violent rabble rousers come into power it is our fault. We must stand up and canvass politically for candidates who represent our interests and our interests collectively as Pakistanis.

On a personal note Ammar Rashid is an extremely hard working, bright, kind person. I have had the privilege of working with him and was thrilled to see him stand as our representative for Islamabad. I encourage all of you to give AWP a chance to represent our interests in 2018 Elections. What can you possibly lose?

The writer is a human rights activist with a public policy background

Link to party manifesto here: https://awamiworkersparty.org/manifesto-en/
 
Really glad to see a potential new force on the left, I sincerely hope they do well in the next few elections.

As much as PTI have fought against corruption and all, it is really not healthy for Pakistan to end up with a single genuine political party. The ultimate aim should be for a strong democracy with a fair electoral system and a strong centre-right and centre-left party, with a few smaller parties with slightly different ideas emerging.

Hopefully in the future PTI will establish itself as the main centre-right party, while someone like AWP emerges as the strong left wing party. That will be the day when we can finally say that Pakistan has finally established itself as a democracy.
 
AWP is a very welcome addition to our politics. A party which protects minorities and believes in separation of religion and state was desperately needed. Hope they are able to get their message across and gain many many supporters in the coming years.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AWP <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NA53?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NA53</a> candidate <a href="https://twitter.com/AmmarRashidT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AmmarRashidT</a> speaks to residents in Bara Kahu about the need for working people to organize themselves rather than expect political elites to fix their problems for them. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MutabadilMumkinHai?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MutabadilMumkinHai</a> <a href="https://t.co/zTO8R0G5Nx">pic.twitter.com/zTO8R0G5Nx</a></p>— AWP Islamabad (@AWPIsbRwp) <a href="https://twitter.com/AWPIsbRwp/status/1011900577586937857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Left wing politics has not had much purchase in Pakistan and has occupied a quite peripheral role especially since the 1970s. This is not to say it has been entirely irrelevant in the history of Pakistan.

In the 1940s the Communists often contradicted themselves on the Pakistan question, but for the 1945 - 1946 elections the Communist Party of India encouraged its members to work closely with the Muslim League. Prominent Muslim communists such as Mian Iftikharuddin and Danial Latifi, amongst others heeded this call. Latifi in fact drafted the Provincial Muslim League manifesto in 1944, which called for state planning, nationalisation of key industries, minimum wage guarantees, the right to strike, debt relief for peasants and ownership of state land by landless peasants with progressive taxation on large holdings. One could argue that the influence of the Communists was important in sensitising the Muslim League to the War time economic dislocations in the Punjab, which undermined the Unionist Party. The League sought support of the peasants by offering solutions to their economic problems. The Communists also organised meetings for the League. In reality, there was of course much tension between the Communists and the Muslim League. But there was a degree of convergence in the rhetoric, with Pakistan being presented as an antidote to the corruption and oppression of everyday life.

Away from the Communists and socialists, even the modernists who would ultimately spearhead the campaign for Pakistan often spoke of social justice as inherent in Islam. Iqbal, the most famous of the Islamic modernists in the twentieth century, stated that “after a long and careful study of Islamic Law I have come to the conclusion that if this system of Law is properly understood and applied, at last the right to subsistence is secured to every body.” He was adamant that “the acceptance of social democracy, in some suitable form and consistent with the legal principles of Islam, is not a revolution but a return to the original purity of Islam.” It is also relevant to point to the Planning Committee which was set up in 1944. In the second meeting, Jinnah, perhaps influenced by Iqbal’s sentiments, addressed the members on 5 November and made a visionary speech:

“in whatever problems you tackle there is one point which I must request you to keep in mind - and it is this.

It is not our purpose to make the rich richer and to accelerate the process of accumulation of wealth in the hands of few individuals. We should aim at levelling up the general standard of living amongst the masses and I hope your committee will pay due attention to this very important question. Our ideal should not be capitalistic but Islamic, and the interests and welfare of the people as a whole should be kept constantly in mind.”

The memorandum on economic development submitted by planning committee to Jinnah in July 1945 was strikingly left wing, proposing a level of taxation from 14% to 17% of national income, which was higher than the Bombay plan (which became a semi-official economic blueprint for the Congress) envisaged. It put the alleviation of poverty as central aim and was critical of large scale capitalist producers. It included a ‘shopping list’ of industries for nationalization and was more radical than Bombay plan with regard to reform to agriculture. In social policy, it called for female education in villages, creation of training centres for women social workers, promotion of technical education, advancement of indigenous medical practitioners, grants-in-aid for housing and planning societies.

However when Pakistan was established, barely any of this was implemented. Refugee settlement overshadowed everything in Pakistan’s early days. There was a lack of personnel who could run state run industries. There was also the need to industrialize quickly as Pakistan lagged far behind India and was in a parlous economic state. The entry of large landlords into the Muslim League also acted as a brake on any aspirations to achieve major reform in agriculture. Mian Iftikharuddin would in fact quit the Muslim League in part because of the opposition he faced from landed interests.

Organised left politics struggled in the early years of Pakistan. The Pakistan state worked closely with Britain and the USA, foreign governments with a particular interest in containing communism. In the countryside class based action was restricted by the patronage networks. Pir-murdee ties, biraderi affiliations and in some places the economic power of the large landlords curtailed opportunities for class alignment. In the urban sphere, less than 1% of the Pakistani population were engaged in wage labour.

Nevertheless, there always existed a platform for the left. The Progressive Bloc deserted the Muslim League shortly after independence, forming parties such as the Azad Pakistan Party (1953), the Pakistan National Party (1956) and the National Awami Party (1957). And eventually a party with significant left-wing rhetoric in its manifesto would succeed, this being of course the PPP, which only 3 years after its founding stormed to victory in West Pakistan. Yet, this would in may ways end up being a false dawn for the left.

In the Punjab within the PPP, the left gathered around Sheikh Muhammad Rashid (who was a member of the AIML in the 1940s). Acutely aware that the PPP could be subverted from within if it opened its doors to notables and professional politicians, they proposed restrictions on entry. The high command (‘central cell’) of the PPP was was more conservative than the Punjab left (important exceptions being Jalaludin Abdur Rahim and Mairaj Muhammad Khan) and were proponents of a more ‘inclusive’ approach to potential entrants. Some of these members argued that the true opponents were the pro-Western class of indigenous capitalists, who helped perpetuate an imperialism that rendered post-colonial states as not truly free and sovereign. In this reading, it was the capitalists, rather than the landed notables that needed to be opposed.

An example of the clash between the two visions of the PPP is provided by the following example. On 29 March 1969, in a meeting of the Punjab-Bahawalpur Council of the PPP, Taj Langah had proposed that those with class interests contrary to the party’s ideology should only be granted membership in exceptional circumstances and even then should not hold party office or be given a PPP ticket for a period off 3 years. The central cell countered that the PPP should be projected as a ‘united front of progressive and nationalist forces’. They were conscious too, that compared with other parties the PPP possessed fewer funds and the entry of notables could boost the coffers. Crucially, the central cell was supported by Bhutto. At the Lahore Inter-Continental Hotel, Bhutto let rip at the left. Langah informed Phillip Jones, author of a fine work on the PPP, that the ’Inter-Continental meeting was a nightmare for us…We were humiliated in the feudal way.’ The Punjab-Bahawalpur Council would never meet again as Bhutto refused to sanction any such meetings in the future.

Bhutto saw himself as a pragmatic politician, a believer in action. Admitting to being frustrated at times by the left wing intellectuals he said to Jones:

“On the exterior they are intellectuals and the do nothing but sit in coffee houses and drink coffee and have long hair. There is no question of their giving deep thought to the facts of power.”

Bhutto, for whom ‘the facts of power’ could never be disregarded, would seek a broad based coalition, openly courting landed interests. Many landed notables joined from Sindh, although in the Punjab, they would generally join after the 1970 elections.

But there was a price to pay with such a strategy. The entry of political careerists blunted the PPP as an instrument for social change and weakened the organisation. 50 years on and there is little doubt that it is the ‘politicals’ and not the ‘ideologicals’ that dictate PPP policy.

The years of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto ultimately represented both the apogee of the left-wing movement and ultimately its end as a force exerting some pressure on Pakistani politics. After the Bhutto years, in keeping with worldwide trends, the economy took the path of deregulation, privatisation and liberalisation. It is also notable, that even amongst the Muslim modernists, many of whom were not socialists, the rhetoric of social justice so frequent in the early years of Pakistan’s existence is now barely ever heard. Within this context the Awami Workers Party, continues to provide a platform for those interested on issues that have historically animated the left, but faces an up-hill struggle in reshaping Pakistani politics.
 
[MENTION=142317]Loralai[/MENTION]

Thank you for sharing this. JazaakAllah.


We need more progressive voices like this. People like Jawad & Jibran will eventually get public nod aswell. Ammar must uphold his values and never compromise on it.


The sad thing is that awami workers party hasn’t got much needed media exposure in last 7 years but the good thing to know is that they won 3 local bodies seats.


Hope those 3 deliver at grass root and get promoted to assemblies by power of vote in future.


Best wishes.
 
I've always wondered why there's been such a lack of true progressive, left wing parties in Pakistan.

Is it because Pakistan is mainly an agricultural economy ? Looking at the constituency map, your route to power is most likely with rural voters whereas urban, unionised, educated voters aren't as strong a presence as they are in the West
 
[MENTION=142317]Loralai[/MENTION]

Thank you for sharing this. JazaakAllah.


We need more progressive voices like this. People like Jawad & Jibran will eventually get public nod aswell. Ammar must uphold his values and never compromise on it.


The sad thing is that awami workers party hasn’t got much needed media exposure in last 7 years but the good thing to know is that they won 3 local bodies seats.


Hope those 3 deliver at grass root and get promoted to assemblies by power of vote in future.


Best wishes.

Meanwhile, Jibran Nasir has been illegally arrested and has been “roughed up” by a Sindh High Court judge’s VIP protocol.
 
I've always wondered why there's been such a lack of true progressive, left wing parties in Pakistan.

Is it because Pakistan is mainly an agricultural economy ? Looking at the constituency map, your route to power is most likely with rural voters whereas urban, unionised, educated voters aren't as strong a presence as they are in the West

A big factor is the culture of fear and repression which has been instilled into our nation by the Establishment.

You have secular and progressive bloggers vanishing.

Peace activist Raza Khan is still missing and nobody knows where he is or even if he is still alive.

You have a situation where people disappear for no reason.

If you talk openly about real issues in Pakistan, like the treatment of minorities, corruption within establishment, problems with our foreign policy or begin to ask critical questions of the Estbalishment, you will make things harder and harder for yourself. Look at how many thousands of people have gone missing in Balochistan in the last ten/fifteen years. They haven't gone on holiday.

Under such circumstances it is very hard to have open discussions about liberal issues let alone form political parties.

The irony is that whilst progressive voices are silences, voices belonging to dangerous figures like Khadim Hussain Rizvi and Mahmood Ahmad Ludhianwi are amplified. Go figure.
 
A new party keeps popping up everyday in Pakistan for fun, nothing makes any difference though.

Majority of the people are infatuated by PMLN, PPP and MQM and have voted and supported them for decades, and nothing will change unless they do not want to change their own thinking.
 
I've always wondered why there's been such a lack of true progressive, left wing parties in Pakistan.

Is it because Pakistan is mainly an agricultural economy ? Looking at the constituency map, your route to power is most likely with rural voters whereas urban, unionised, educated voters aren't as strong a presence as they are in the West

One facet to this would be state coercion. A symbolic example would be the fate of the left wing newspapers, Pakistan Times and Imroze, which were brought under state control under Ayub Khan’s regime. More ironically, despite the leftist rhetoric which did much to propel Zulfikar Ali Bhutto to power, the Bhutto regime did much to weaken the labour movement.

Another facet would be the strength of the patronage networks. Such personalised ties narrow the scope for class based mobilisation. They also reduce incentives for unrest as patrons are forced to forgo some of their wealth in order to keep their ‘followers’ content. Specifically, kinship networks are also likely to have provided members with support during times of economic strain, which again has dampened the prospects of support for more radical solutions.

A third facet, would be the impact of migration, especially to the Gulf. Migration has been crucial in releasing pressure on unemployment and remittances have been essential in enabling many families to achieve upward mobility. This again has had the effect of containing resentment which could have been exploited by left wing forces. But migration to West Asia has also bolstered the presence of a conservative, petite bourgeoise, constituency. Many of the migrants who returned to Pakistan did so with an elevated sense of religious identity.

A fourth point would be the international context, especially in the wake of the secession of East Pakistan which encouraged the Bhutto regime to seek patronage from Saudi Arabia. There were good economic reasons for this, but the reorientation to the Middle East is likely to have contributed to the deadening of the leftist enthusiasm of the Bhutto regime. The later Afghan wars and the Iranian Revolution also fortified conservative forces.

Lastly, we cannot ignore the failings of the left wing movements. Bhutto’s characterisation of Pakistani left wing thinkers as long-haired coffee shop intellectuals, was of course derisive, but there was a grain of truth in so far as so many of them seemed far more at home in the dense field of literary debates rather than being able to get to grips with the reality of politics at the level of the peasants or working class. There was no left-wing party set up with deep roots at the base of society. No cadre based party able to organise and direct members. The success in the 1970 elections of the PPP’s distinctly leftist rhetoric was achieved not through a strongly institutionalised party, but relied rather on a charismatic leader able to move the masses through impassioned oratory. Further, when it comes to the importance that many Pakistanis clearly attach to their religious identity, the left have preferred to wish it away. More generally, here we may recall the words of Muhammad Hasan Askari, the noted literary critic, who in debates with the ‘progressive’ writers, urged them that they should not forget their own roots, culture and history. He warned in a stinging phrase, that in only seeking progressivism, “we as a people will vanish and only progress will remain.”
 
The concept is not new, make a small company and sell it a large company for some profit. He also trying to get significant and will try to make deal with PTI or PML-N.
 
AWP is a very welcome addition to our politics. A party which protects minorities and believes in separation of religion and state was desperately needed. Hope they are able to get their message across and gain many many supporters in the coming years.

and that's why it will fail and never achieve anything. If they fail to come to a genuine understanding about Islam and its role in a Muslims life they will simply be marked as murtads, ladeeni kafirs and rejected..

I have read their manifesto and I broadly agree with so many things. The rights of workers to organise, freedom for minorities, using public funds for welfare and free education for all regardless of their religion etc.

But the only way the awp will work is if it accepts the centrality of Islam in peoples lives. If you go full secular you will simply be either a) painted as traitors and communists we fought in the 80's or b) worse still western stooges trying to destroy the fabric of our society.

Personally i think a party can achieve a balance between creating a true welfare state while also respecting Islam as being a central part of peoples lives.

Their manifesto is unworkable at the moment however..they need to go back and bring more than just the empty slogans they have included in their manifesto..
 
Also there is a big flaw in their manifesto, the idea that Pakistan is made up of many nations. Now some may say well thats actually true. Others will simply say well thats not true. Pakistan is made of many ethnic groups but ultimately we are one nation. I think its dangerous to promote the idea that Pakistan is made up of different "nations" and only the AWP can bring them together. Thats a flawed concept inmho..
 
Also there is a big flaw in their manifesto, the idea that Pakistan is made up of many nations. Now some may say well thats actually true. Others will simply say well thats not true. Pakistan is made of many ethnic groups but ultimately we are one nation. I think its dangerous to promote the idea that Pakistan is made up of different "nations" and only the AWP can bring them together. Thats a flawed concept inmho..

Yeah they're just marxists who don't know sht.
 
Sorry mate but Communism will never work in Pakistan and nor it has worked in any other developed country other than China
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AWP?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AWP</a> to field 21 candidates on 22 seats in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GE2018?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GE2018</a> <a href="https://t.co/aerSXZ0OQG">https://t.co/aerSXZ0OQG</a> <br>AWP Election Manifesto: <a href="https://t.co/gNJWcaPVVq">https://t.co/gNJWcaPVVq</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/VoteAWP?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#VoteAWP</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MutabadilMumkinHai?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MutabadilMumkinHai</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SabKeLiye?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SabKeLiye</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AwamiWorkersParty?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AwamiWorkersParty</a> <a href="https://t.co/pIldX340Gf">pic.twitter.com/pIldX340Gf</a></p>— Awami Workers Party (@AwamiWorkers) <a href="https://twitter.com/AwamiWorkers/status/1018092631748947968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CRITICAL & UNIVERSAL EDUCATION: We will ensure an overhaul of Pakistan’s broken education system to create a free, uniform public system that provides quality, progressive, critical and scientifically-sound education to all up till university level. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/voteAWP?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#voteAWP</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MutabdilMumkinHai?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MutabdilMumkinHai</a> <a href="https://t.co/cKykTHqjzu">pic.twitter.com/cKykTHqjzu</a></p>— AWP Sindh (@AWPSindh) <a href="https://twitter.com/AWPSindh/status/1018192236755013634?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A MULTINATIONAL STATE & SOCIETY: creation of a multi-national & inclusive Pakistani identity through a genuinely federal & decentralized state that recognizes all national & ethnic groups as equal, ensures democratic control of constituent units control over resources <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/voteAWP?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#voteAWP</a> <a href="https://t.co/cN5oXtPmdr">pic.twitter.com/cN5oXtPmdr</a></p>— Awami Workers Party (@AwamiWorkers) <a href="https://twitter.com/AwamiWorkers/status/1018178716709675008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We respect PTI for the struggle of 20 years prior to coming in to power. As a political worker I understand that politics is not an easy task and I admire their struggle of decades but that doesn’t mean we can’t criticise the compromises they have made for power <a href="https://twitter.com/alia_amirali?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@alia_amirali</a></p>— Awami Workers Party (@AwamiWorkers) <a href="https://twitter.com/AwamiWorkers/status/1027917471750205440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Alia needs to ask herself whether the 4000 rupees would've been better spent on charity than the vanity of having her face on a soviet style election poster hammer/sickle et all.
 
Alternatives to Austerity and Neoliberalism in Pakistan

Well worth a read for those interested in politics and economics in Pakistan. Especially in light of the shambolic condition of Pakistan's economy. This position paper is written by some of our best intellectuals like Ammar Rashid, Aasim Sajjad Akhter and Nafwal Saleem. I recommend it to you all. Please have a read and think about how much better things can be than the status quo:

https://antiausteritypk.com
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mainstream & right-wing parties & politicians like to pretend Pakistan is some kind of haven for women but the reality is we are one of the most dangerous societies for women on the planet. We need to snap out of denial & listen to Pakistani women's movements fighting for change.</p>— Awami Workers Party (@AwamiWorkers) <a href="https://twitter.com/AwamiWorkers/status/1303973857863380992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
My favourite party in Pakistan.

I hope the PTI, PML-N and PPP fan boys will change their hearts and give AWP a chance in the next election. If we're serious about a progressive Pakistan then they deserve a shot.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] what's your views on them?
 
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Lol, why would Pakistanis waste their vote on a party that no one has heard off and where voting for it is a waste of a vote. I have never even heard of this party and that is bad. People should not have to take out time to research on this party, the party itself should be making a compelling voice, appeal to drive traffic towards it

People's confidence in the pti grew when they started growing louder and started to show in the ground from 2011 onwards that it had the voice, following to make a difference in the country's political landscape
 
Lol, why would Pakistanis waste their vote on a party that no one has heard off and where voting for it is a waste of a vote. I have never even heard of this party and that is bad. People should not have to take out time to research on this party, the party itself should be making a compelling voice, appeal to drive traffic towards it

People's confidence in the pti grew when they started growing louder and started to show in the ground from 2011 onwards that it had the voice, following to make a difference in the country's political landscape

PTI was nothing before IK was able to get the services of the Tareen mafia and crooks from his rival parties.

My point is you have to start from somewhere.
 
PTI was nothing before IK was able to get the services of the Tareen mafia and crooks from his rival parties.

My point is you have to start from somewhere.

Accepting your narrative, will this AWP party succeed if it doesn't adopt the same strategy? If not then what is the point of wasting your vote then. Look at the state of Jawad Ahmed's party, the guy has been in politics for ten years and is still a tanga party.

IK was smart enough to learn the game, adapt to Pakistan's political realities because a party can only implement its manifesto and agenda when it comes to power rather than barking on the outside for eternity
 
Accepting your narrative, will this AWP party succeed if it doesn't adopt the same strategy? If not then what is the point of wasting your vote then. Look at the state of Jawad Ahmed's party, the guy has been in politics for ten years and is still a tanga party.

IK was smart enough to learn the game, adapt to Pakistan's political realities because a party can only implement its manifesto and agenda when it comes to power rather than barking on the outside for eternity

AWP will succeed when Pakistan becomes a progressive country.
 
AWP only operates in Islamabad. I did sing up to become their member and get updates for their meeting.

Its a small party of good educated folks, but it has not been part of any movement yet. They havn't really made a name of themselves yet and only talks about ideology as of yet.

They need to play politics if they want to get recognized. Last year, we have had few student protest on different issues around islamabad and AWP could had taken an opportunity to stand with these students in the protest or provide cover to the students from the fear of agencies.

They do very micro things like giving atta to some poor localities of Islamabad. That ain't gonna help you get votes man, nor get any recognition.

Its a small cult of educated people as of yet.
 
I've always wondered why there's been such a lack of true progressive, left wing parties in Pakistan.

Is it because Pakistan is mainly an agricultural economy ? Looking at the constituency map, your route to power is most likely with rural voters whereas urban, unionised, educated voters aren't as strong a presence as they are in the West

I think the problem is the gap between the liberal parties and the awaam.

In Pakistan, liberals are viewed as pampered kids, they use terms like mommy daddy or burger for people who are liberal.

The problem is, liberal parties cant effectively communicate themselves to the awaam. Our awaam is such that you have to act streetsmart and act cunning to impress them, you have to speak punjabi and go down their level.

Liberals bring ideology and communicate in English and they use symbolism that a street smart person would identify that him and the liberal party are different and are not the same.

ZAB and his party knew how to act street smart. They didn't make slogans like Food, cloth, house in english, they made slogans like roti, kapra aur makan. The kind of language you use, the kind of dresssing you use has an impact. ZAB wore Shalwar kamez to show that he was an aam admi like the rest.

Liberal parties have the ideologies but they still haven't got the right people to communicate. What they are Faisal Raza Abdi type people
 
I think the problem is the gap between the liberal parties and the awaam.

In Pakistan, liberals are viewed as pampered kids, they use terms like mommy daddy or burger for people who are liberal.

The problem is, liberal parties cant effectively communicate themselves to the awaam. Our awaam is such that you have to act streetsmart and act cunning to impress them, you have to speak punjabi and go down their level.

Liberals bring ideology and communicate in English and they use symbolism that a street smart person would identify that him and the liberal party are different and are not the same.

ZAB and his party knew how to act street smart. They didn't make slogans like Food, cloth, house in english, they made slogans like roti, kapra aur makan. The kind of language you use, the kind of dresssing you use has an impact. ZAB wore Shalwar kamez to show that he was an aam admi like the rest.

Liberal parties have the ideologies but they still haven't got the right people to communicate. What they are Faisal Raza Abdi type people

This is a very accurate summary and I agree with it. To be successful in Pakistani politics isn't as simple as the West, a party has to know how to communicate properly with the masses with ideas they can associate with it. Anyone with a liberal agenda otherwise gets burger slogan thrown at him.
 
This is a very accurate summary and I agree with it. To be successful in Pakistani politics isn't as simple as the West, a party has to know how to communicate properly with the masses with ideas they can associate with it. Anyone with a liberal agenda otherwise gets burger slogan thrown at him.

A liberal and Left wing party could only exist and strive if its from Karachi.

The demographics of Karachi and Islamabad are different.

Islamabadi's live in their cults. The educated and liberals have their own group. The others who are not as educated live amongest their own. The liberals dont understand the problems and needs of the others. The others despised the liberals for being born with a golden spoon in their mouth.
They live in their own bubbles
(however when it comes to drugs and alcahol, both groups do the same kind)

What i love about karachi is that i have heard its a multicultural city. Different kinds of people exist there and they socialize with each other. This is why i think if a liberal party wants to start a movement it needs to start from karachi first.

AWP strong hold is Islamabad, and the people that are part of the AWP circle just live in their own bubble. Yet, AWP had multiple opportunities to make a name of them self by coming out in public to show support for a cause, but they failed.
 
A liberal and Left wing party could only exist and strive if its from Karachi.

The demographics of Karachi and Islamabad are different.

Karachi had people from all over the subcontinent come during partition. And as these people were for the most part educated, the city became liberal.

Islamabadi's live in their cults. The educated and liberals have their own group. The others who are not as educated live amongest their own. The liberals dont understand the problems and needs of the others. The others despised the liberals for being born with a golden spoon in their mouth.
They live in their own bubbles
(however when it comes to drugs and alcahol, both groups do the same kind)

You think people in Upper Middle Class and Lower Middle Class live in the same area of Karachi? There is resentment of richer people in Karachi as well.

The person in Karachi who lives in DHA in a 2 kanal house, will never understand what it is to live in a lower middle class area, or poor area. Unless they happened to have been born into that family, and moved up.

What i love about karachi is that i have heard its a multicultural city. Different kinds of people exist there and they socialize with each other. This is why i think if a liberal party wants to start a movement it needs to start from karachi first.

AWP strong hold is Islamabad, and the people that are part of the AWP circle just live in their own bubble. Yet, AWP had multiple opportunities to make a name of them self by coming out in public to show support for a cause, but they failed.

Yes Karachi is mini Pakistan. And people socialize and marry among the different ethnicities. However they do no socialize with people of a lower social strata, unless they happened to be related to them.
 
Karachi had people from all over the subcontinent come during partition. And as these people were for the most part educated, the city became liberal.



You think people in Upper Middle Class and Lower Middle Class live in the same area of Karachi? There is resentment of richer people in Karachi as well.

The person in Karachi who lives in DHA in a 2 kanal house, will never understand what it is to live in a lower middle class area, or poor area. Unless they happened to have been born into that family, and moved up.



Yes Karachi is mini Pakistan. And people socialize and marry among the different ethnicities. However they do no socialize with people of a lower social strata, unless they happened to be related to them.

i stand corrected than.

but there are many different kinds people of ethinicities of people, thats what i have heard.

I assumed that they socialized with each other.
 
i stand corrected than.

but there are many different kinds people of ethinicities of people, thats what i have heard.

I assumed that they socialized with each other.

They do, as long as they are in the same socal strata. They also inter marry with each other, again assuming they are from same class.

To give an example my family is Urdu Speaking, but i have cousins who have married with Punjabis, Kashmiris, Pashtuns, Sindhis, Memons. In the younger generation, people really dont care about ethnicity that much.
 
Accepting your narrative, will this AWP party succeed if it doesn't adopt the same strategy? If not then what is the point of wasting your vote then. Look at the state of Jawad Ahmed's party, the guy has been in politics for ten years and is still a tanga party.

IK was smart enough to learn the game, adapt to Pakistan's political realities because a party can only implement its manifesto and agenda when it comes to power rather than barking on the outside for eternity

IK was simply fortunate that the Establishment needed a new puppet and he was ready and willing after 2013 to take up the role. Pakistan's political realities are that the country is heavily influenced by the will of the Establishment. They are the king makers.
 
If AWP had a representative in Rawalpindi i would had voted for them. Infact, in any of the areas of Rawalpindi had they existed i was willing to have my vote transferred if possible
 
It makes you realise how desperate the situation in Pakistan is when people are more interested in TLP and Khadim Hussain Rizvi than in AWP.

We have a long way to go to building a just and fair country.
 
IK was simply fortunate that the Establishment needed a new puppet and he was ready and willing after 2013 to take up the role. Pakistan's political realities are that the country is heavily influenced by the will of the Establishment. They are the king makers.

Accepting this narrative, its funny how for some the establishment becomes okay when the PML N and PPP are in power
 
@BewalExpress

Are you keeping an eye on this party which seems to be popular amongst the pro-indian posters such as lora, major, mamoon and saeedhk?
 
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I've always wondered why there's been such a lack of true progressive, left wing parties in Pakistan.

Is it because Pakistan is mainly an agricultural economy ? Looking at the constituency map, your route to power is most likely with rural voters whereas urban, unionised, educated voters aren't as strong a presence as they are in the West

Amongst the reasons mentioned so far, one other point comes to mind: the secession of East Pakistan weakened leftist forces in what remained of Pakistan. It could be argued that left-wing ideas had found greater traction in East Bengal than West Pakistan. While the theme of social justice was prominent in Muslim League appeals in the 1940s, such rhetoric was particularly conspicuous in Bengal.

In the colonial era, overwhelmingly the peasants of Bengal were Muslim. The peasants in Bengal had suffered from economic impoverishment, which was especially acute in the inter-war period. Fragmentation in landholdings, ecological catastrophes and rising indebtedness resulted in immiseration. To this we should add the role of memory: the peasant memory of the tracts of jungles being cleared by their ancestors created an intimate connection to land amongst them and shaped Muslim Bengali cultural discourse. As Maulana Bhashani, dubbed the “red Maulana” by some, and “Mao-lana” by others, said in the colonial period:

“in an age where people all over the world long for freedom, the zamindars have bound hundreds of thousands of projas in the chains of slavery in such a way that they cannot present themselves as worthy of the name of man. Who is the real owner of the soil? Who freed this soil from the jungle? The cultivator, the proja. So the owner of the soil is the cultivator and the proja.”

In the early years of its existence, Liaquat Ali Khan frequently referred to social justice as representing the essence of Islam, but little practically was done. It was no surprise that it was left to a member of East Bengal, Abdul Kasem Khan, to remind the Constituent Assembly in 1953, that:

“We have preached from many platforms and the Press that we want to give the people Islamic sociology, which means certainly a better distribution of wealth in the country. But, have we made in the last six years any conscious effort to secure to our people the benefits of a better distribution of wealth in the country? Not to my knowledge … But I can tell you that the people will not be satisfied if we fail in securing for them the substances of Islam, the substance of freedom.”

Later on though, leftist forces would play a key role in undermining Ayub Khan. Maulana Bhashani was a prominent figure in the anti-Ayub movement. Ayub complained that: “gangs of communists and terrorists on the prompting of Bhashani are raiding police stations, the houses and properties of Muslim Leaguers, and asking the chairmen and members of Basic Democrats to resign.”

In sum, as East Pakistan broke away the area with a deeper tradition of left-wing thought was also lost to the rest of Pakistan.

Supplementary to this was that the independence of Bangladesh divested Pakistan of most of its non-Muslim minorities. This in fact made it easier for the religious, maslaki parties to advance their cause. The creation of Bangladesh also perhaps reinforced suspicion of left-wing ideas amongst elements of the establishment as many of the fervent supporters of greater provincial autonomy were from the political left.
 
Amongst the reasons mentioned so far, one other point comes to mind: the secession of East Pakistan weakened leftist forces in what remained of Pakistan. It could be argued that left-wing ideas had found greater traction in East Bengal than West Pakistan. While the theme of social justice was prominent in Muslim League appeals in the 1940s, such rhetoric was particularly conspicuous in Bengal.

In the colonial era, overwhelmingly the peasants of Bengal were Muslim. The peasants in Bengal had suffered from economic impoverishment, which was especially acute in the inter-war period. Fragmentation in landholdings, ecological catastrophes and rising indebtedness resulted in immiseration. To this we should add the role of memory: the peasant memory of the tracts of jungles being cleared by their ancestors created an intimate connection to land amongst them and shaped Muslim Bengali cultural discourse. As Maulana Bhashani, dubbed the “red Maulana” by some, and “Mao-lana” by others, said in the colonial period:

“in an age where people all over the world long for freedom, the zamindars have bound hundreds of thousands of projas in the chains of slavery in such a way that they cannot present themselves as worthy of the name of man. Who is the real owner of the soil? Who freed this soil from the jungle? The cultivator, the proja. So the owner of the soil is the cultivator and the proja.”

In the early years of its existence, Liaquat Ali Khan frequently referred to social justice as representing the essence of Islam, but little practically was done. It was no surprise that it was left to a member of East Bengal, Abdul Kasem Khan, to remind the Constituent Assembly in 1953, that:

“We have preached from many platforms and the Press that we want to give the people Islamic sociology, which means certainly a better distribution of wealth in the country. But, have we made in the last six years any conscious effort to secure to our people the benefits of a better distribution of wealth in the country? Not to my knowledge … But I can tell you that the people will not be satisfied if we fail in securing for them the substances of Islam, the substance of freedom.”

Later on though, leftist forces would play a key role in undermining Ayub Khan. Maulana Bhashani was a prominent figure in the anti-Ayub movement. Ayub complained that: “gangs of communists and terrorists on the prompting of Bhashani are raiding police stations, the houses and properties of Muslim Leaguers, and asking the chairmen and members of Basic Democrats to resign.”

In sum, as East Pakistan broke away the area with a deeper tradition of left-wing thought was also lost to the rest of Pakistan.

Supplementary to this was that the independence of Bangladesh divested Pakistan of most of its non-Muslim minorities. This in fact made it easier for the religious, maslaki parties to advance their cause. The creation of Bangladesh also perhaps reinforced suspicion of left-wing ideas amongst elements of the establishment as many of the fervent supporters of greater provincial autonomy were from the political left.

There’s also the small matter of Bhutto, in large part, co-opting the left in West Pakistan with the formation of the PPP. Speak to any of the aged lefties whiling away the time at tea stalls (and they’re always ready for a conversation), and they deeply resent him encroaching onto their space. They will tell you that the mid- to late-60s were the heyday of the “new left” worldwide, and Pakistan wasn’t an exception, what with Bhashani in East Pakistan and several left wing (albeit ethnic nationalist) outfits under the banner of NAP in West Pakistan. Enter Bhutto, propounding “Islamic socialism,” and such was his magnetism that he lured away quite a few genuine leftists into his fold, and encroached on what could’ve been the left’s vote bank.

This doesn’t fully explain how the left never achieved much of a foothold in West Pakistan, but it certainly contributed. Bhutto, ever the opportunist, was cognizant of the appeal of the left at that moment in time, hence the “socialism is our economy” claim. He probably also understood the limitations of the appeal an outright left wing ideology would have in West Pakistan, hence the “Islam is our faith.” The “Democracy is our polity” part helped with the exhaustion from a decade of martial law.
 
There’s also the small matter of Bhutto, in large part, co-opting the left in West Pakistan with the formation of the PPP. Speak to any of the aged lefties whiling away the time at tea stalls (and they’re always ready for a conversation), and they deeply resent him encroaching onto their space. They will tell you that the mid- to late-60s were the heyday of the “new left” worldwide, and Pakistan wasn’t an exception, what with Bhashani in East Pakistan and several left wing (albeit ethnic nationalist) outfits under the banner of NAP in West Pakistan. Enter Bhutto, propounding “Islamic socialism,” and such was his magnetism that he lured away quite a few genuine leftists into his fold, and encroached on what could’ve been the left’s vote bank.

This doesn’t fully explain how the left never achieved much of a foothold in West Pakistan, but it certainly contributed. Bhutto, ever the opportunist, was cognizant of the appeal of the left at that moment in time, hence the “socialism is our economy” claim. He probably also understood the limitations of the appeal an outright left wing ideology would have in West Pakistan, hence the “Islam is our faith.” The “Democracy is our polity” part helped with the exhaustion from a decade of martial law.

Bhutto the usurper of the left? The succinctly stated argument above, I think, has real force to it. Think of what happened in the decade that Bhutto was in power. The old, committed left-wing guard exited the PPP. Highly symbolic was the disturbing treatment meted out to J.A. Rahim, the esteemed co-founder of the PPP. A man in his late 60s at the time, he was not only removed from his cabinet and party positions by Bhutto but he and his son were physically assaulted by the FSF in the process. All the while, the landed gentry of the Punjab were welcomed aboard. Phillip Jones, author of a first rate work on the PPP, listed them all:

"By the end of 1974, the post-transfer of power entrants included the Legharis and Khosas of Dera Ghazi Khan; the Pirachas, Tiwanas, Bandials and Qureshis of Sargodha; various of the Bukhari Sayyid lineages (Pir Mahal, Kuranga and Shah Jiwana); the Daultanas, Khakwanis and Gilanis of Multan; the Kharrals of the Ravi riverain in Lyallpur; the Pirs of Makhad, Manki Sharif and Taunsa Sharif; the Korejas of Liaquatpur (Rahim Yar Khan); the Tammans and Jodhras of Campbellpore; as well as civil service moguls like Aziz Ahmad and Malik Khuda Baksh Buca."

If the anti-Ayub coalition was given its thrust by the left, the movement against Bhutto that coalesced around the PNA in 1977 was marked more by conservatism. Indeed, before Zia took over power it was in fact the PNA which had called for Nizam-e-Mustafa.

Therefore within a decade the pendulum had swung from the left to the right.
 
Bhutto the usurper of the left? The succinctly stated argument above, I think, has real force to it. Think of what happened in the decade that Bhutto was in power. The old, committed left-wing guard exited the PPP. Highly symbolic was the disturbing treatment meted out to J.A. Rahim, the esteemed co-founder of the PPP. A man in his late 60s at the time, he was not only removed from his cabinet and party positions by Bhutto but he and his son were physically assaulted by the FSF in the process. All the while, the landed gentry of the Punjab were welcomed aboard. Phillip Jones, author of a first rate work on the PPP, listed them all:

"By the end of 1974, the post-transfer of power entrants included the Legharis and Khosas of Dera Ghazi Khan; the Pirachas, Tiwanas, Bandials and Qureshis of Sargodha; various of the Bukhari Sayyid lineages (Pir Mahal, Kuranga and Shah Jiwana); the Daultanas, Khakwanis and Gilanis of Multan; the Kharrals of the Ravi riverain in Lyallpur; the Pirs of Makhad, Manki Sharif and Taunsa Sharif; the Korejas of Liaquatpur (Rahim Yar Khan); the Tammans and Jodhras of Campbellpore; as well as civil service moguls like Aziz Ahmad and Malik Khuda Baksh Buca."

If the anti-Ayub coalition was given its thrust by the left, the movement against Bhutto that coalesced around the PNA in 1977 was marked more by conservatism. Indeed, before Zia took over power it was in fact the PNA which had called for Nizam-e-Mustafa.

Therefore within a decade the pendulum had swung from the left to the right.

And the passage you quoted is limited to Punjab. He welcomed an equal number of Sindhi landlords into the fold.

J.A. Rahim was ethnic Bengali if I remember correctly, and had opted for Pakistan post-1971. He sealed his fate when he couldn’t stand the nightly parties Bhutto insisted his ministers attend while he himself kept them waiting, arriving late and staying briefly. Rahim was said to have stormed out one night, with the parting shot that the rest of them could wait for “The Raja of Larkana” if they wanted, he had had enough.

Many of the other leftists from the party’s founding days endured similar fates. I wonder though if their joining the PPP was as cynical as Bhutto’s usurpation of the left. Perhaps they saw in him someone who would lend a populist, charismatic element to their cause and allow it to achieve the mass appeal they hadn’t managed to date, and that being an opportunist, he would be malleable, someone they could sway as needed? It didn’t work out that way of course, but I wonder if one or more of them thought along these lines.
 
And the passage you quoted is limited to Punjab. He welcomed an equal number of Sindhi landlords into the fold.

This is correct, though the difference was that except for a couple of cases, most of the big Punjabi landlords only joined after the elections of 1970.
 
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