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Babar Azam can be a superstar

So now the Superstar's average has fallen below 30 in Tests... Well but still I think he should be persisted
 
Aman said:
Maybe when he can string 3 good scores together he might be considered. Way too inconsistent to be mentioned in the same breath as those young batsmen I have mentioned.
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Wait. what? you're not kidding right. Please look at the numbers of Rahul. How consistent has been Babar and Mendis?

Rahul has a 100 in 3 formats of game. Just scored a 199. 100 in Aus, WI & SL. If there is one guy who could be taken in the same breath as Qdk, its him
 
No Pakistani batsman who has been hyped up has ever delivered. In my lifetime.
 
If you go talk to Virat Kohli and ask him do you feel like you are a great of the game, he would respond along the lines of "I'm still learning, I have a lot to achieve and there are many facets of my game I would like to improve on"

If you ask the same question with Shehzad he would respond "I have achieved everything there is to achieve as a batsman"

If you ask the same question to Umar Akmal "I'm the best batsman in Pakistan and soon I will be world's best batsman, also I play too low in the order"


I hope to God if we ask the same question to Babar he responds like Kohli rather than the other two.
 
CricFan2012 said:
I have watched every single one of his innings, this boy is special. He has it in him to become a real superstar for the Pakistan cricket team.

He already has impressive list A stats and had a decent debut, from here on out he needs to be given a go for every tour. I think it is too early to choose him for tests but he needs to be a permanent fixture in the one day side.

I honestly think he can score over 10000 runs in odi if pcb don't mess up here
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Too Much responsibility (& pressure) too soon on Babar.. Because of Simultaneous retirements of Both Misbah & YK. Younus could have played a while longer.o Now the batting line up is very thin. Not good circumstances for a new Batsman to grow.
I think PCB should request YK to stay on for a year or two.
 
cricketAXEpert said:
Too Much responsibility (& pressure) too soon on Babar.. Because of Simultaneous retirements of Both Misbah & YK. Younus could have played a while longer.o Now the batting line up is very thin. Not good circumstances for a new Batsman to grow.
I think PCB should request YK to stay on for a year or two.
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Why? Younis is finished as a batsman and should have retired after the England series at the latest. Not withholding how great of a batman he has been for us and probably could have scraped out a couple more big innings.
 
Babar and Haris will form Pakisan's best partnership pair.
Both are world class. Haris is superior in tests while Babar in odis.

Its so unfortunate that Haris missed last 2 years because of injury.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Babar and Haris will form Pakisan's best partnership pair.
Both are world class. Haris is superior in tests while Babar in odis.

Its so unfortunate that Haris missed last 2 years because of injury.
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Completely agree, Haris looked like a complete batsman prior to his injury, hope he remains the same if not better player. Two of my fav batsmen.
 
Syed1 said:
If you go talk to Virat Kohli and ask him do you feel like you are a great of the game, he would respond along the lines of "I'm still learning, I have a lot to achieve and there are many facets of my game I would like to improve on"

If you ask the same question with Shehzad he would respond "I have achieved everything there is to achieve as a batsman"

If you ask the same question to Umar Akmal "I'm the best batsman in Pakistan and soon I will be world's best batsman, also I play too low in the order"


I hope to God if we ask the same question to Babar he responds like Kohli rather than the other two.
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His demeanor seems different than any batsmen in a long while. He doesn't seem a talker and seems very focused on batting.

One amazing thing is whereas every other Pakistani seems to have at least 1-2 chances per innings, Babar never seems to really give any chances.

The speed of his innings will get better with more confidence. The amount of vitriol towards a 22 year old who is completely different than his predecessors is unfair. He obviously has shots, but when the so called "seniors" keep getting out, it's hard to determine how exactly to play, because had he gotten out, we would have been sub 250. He will learn to pace better with time. How everyone is ragging on him while others keep getting out for poor scores is really unfair.
 
Syed1 said:
And England
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Shehzad and Umar Akmal dropped more than 10 on their average after away tours and never recovered. Now they are stuck on mid 30s.

This boy is something very special and different. He is once in a 20 year period. Far superior to a batter we have produced in the past.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
Shehzad and Umar Akmal dropped more than 10 on their average after away tours and never recovered. Now they are stuck on mid 30s.

This boy is something very special and different. He is once in a 20 year period. Far superior to a batter we have produced in the past.
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This boy should never look back, He needs to give a better shot in every match he plays.

His hunger should never die.
 
phoenix363 said:
Why? Younis is finished as a batsman and should have retired after the England series at the latest. Not withholding how great of a batman he has been for us and probably could have scraped out a couple more big innings.
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Yes, He had trouble adjusting to English conditions but once he did he struck a double century and another big century he struck in Australia. The reason he was struggling in England and even in Australia, is due to the fact that Pakistan is getting too few test series invites.. They are mostly playing in UAE and that too not enough tests. Younis staying a while longer, could have made the transition easier otherwise Pakistan which is already at the bottom of the ODi ranking, will also slip to the bottom in tests like West indies and Srilanka. People keep talking about Harris Sohail but he hasn't done anything since coming back from major injury. And PCB for some reason have a closed door policy regarding Fawad Alam. Even now YK is more consistent than Asad Shafiq. The only difference is the Years.
 
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Babar Azam has has a relatively quiet tournament for his standards, but tomorrow we will see what kind of superstar he is... Freddie Mercury level, or Zayn Malik level.

Hoping for a great knock, as long as it comes in a losing cause
 
fakhar zaman is the guy who can be 'relied' and 'expected' to perform tomorrow and can be trusted, whether fakhar fails tomorrow is another story but the trust is there

nobody can trust to bet anything for babar azam to be honest

hope he proves people wrong though, is number 8 ranked batsman so dont see how he cannot perform esp in a flat track with indian bowling which is not the most lethal in the world
 
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Macho Mann said:
fakhar zaman is the guy who can be 'relied' and 'expected' to perform tomorrow and can be trusted, whether fakhar fails tomorrow is another story but the trust is there

nobody can trust to bet anything for babar azam to be honest

hope he proves people wrong though, is number 8 ranked batsman so dont see how he cannot perform esp in a flat track with indian bowling which is not the most lethal in the world
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India has the best bowling attack in the world. It works as a unit and is the most balanced.

Babur is the batsman to be feared. Zaman is just a poor mans Dhawan, we will work him out.
 
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CricFan2012 said:
India has the best bowling attack in the world. It works as a unit and is the most balanced.

Babur is the batsman to be feared. Zaman is just a poor mans Dhawan, we will work him out.
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if i was a rich man, i would put my money on a poor man who can deliver on the occasion, not on a rich demanding kid who thinks he is cool and all but filled with hot air inside
 
Wishing Babar best of luck for the final.

Needs to get his game plan and head right, Dominate opposition with batting and shouldn't think of anything else.
 
All the best tomorrow my son!!
What a stage for him and all our young guns.

In reality we should be relying on the old guard on the biggest stage but I'm hoping the young guns don't get stage fright as the old guard probably will!!
 
Uzair Gooner said:
hahahaha, Becoz we are prone to hyping up "Tailunted" batsmen rather than the productive ones
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Every fan base hypes up their players, early and often

Our batsmen in the last 2 decades just haven't had the mental strength to build on strong starts to their careers... Yasir Hameed, Salman Butt, Umar Akmal, Sharjeel, Shehzad had all had mental constraints
 
chance has come show what you got.Score runs today when it matters the most.Expecting a good knock today.
 
Time for Babar to step up. If he really is our best batsman, needs to show it in big games such as this. Otherwise, all his 100s against weaker teams like Windies will mean nothing.
 
Will Babar Azam already be considered an ATG if he wins Pakistan the World Cup and scores in the semi final as well as the final?
 
CricFan2012 said:
Will Babar Azam already be considered an ATG if he wins Pakistan the World Cup and scores in the semi final as well as the final?
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Lol. Who wouldn't???

He just needs one match winning performance against a top team in a big tournament to really get him going.
Hopefully he can do that against India
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Lol. Who wouldn't???

He just needs one match winning performance against a top team in a big tournament to really get him going.
Hopefully he can do that against India
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Many would think he needs to score thousands of runs in both formats for that status
 
Babar Azam gone after making soft runs. This guy can never win you a match. A master of soft runs and inconsequential innings.
 
He's pretty ordinary against wrist-spin. Can never be considered a top player till he learns how to pick spinners from the hand.
 
He showed class in first inning.

Century (s) will come on this tour, hopefully.

#TeamBobby
 
If babar wants to be a test super star , he needs to score some big hundreds!

A double and a triple


These pretty 100 is not enough
 
Babar Azam the lion of Pakistan.

Never thought we would have another superstar so soon again.

Will be the face of Pakistan cricket this era.
 
He definitely is an anomaly. Very hardworking, no stupid celebrations, and doesn't get involved in controversies.

Gem of a cricketer and Pakistan need more like him.
 
sweep_shot said:
He definitely is an anomaly. Very hardworking, no stupid celebrations, and doesn't get involved in controversies.

Gem of a cricketer and Pakistan need more like him.
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Babar was carefully nurtured in the system. My guess is he's a once in a generation type of player as Pakistan do not have the resources to churn out players of this quality on a regular basis.

I hope I'm wrong though and we get to see many superstars emerge and lift Pakistan to great heights. Pakistan fans deserve a high class swashbuckling team because we are the best fans in the world bar none.
 
Is it too soon to call him the best ODI batsman for Pakistan? If so, who is ahead of him?
 
Leagues above any other batsman on show No ego no stupid shots A classy calm head who minimises risk and plays to the situation Saw the job done to the end

Fabulous player Hope he carries on in this vain for pakistans sake for years to come
 
Yes dude he is the greatest odi batsman for pakistan. I dont care how many runs the former have scored this guy's wristwork, technique, work ethic, discipline, calmness on the crease, flair shots, can attack if he wants, can defend if he wants and one or the most aesthetic to the eye to watch. He's complete

Babar is our ODI great. All he needs is like 10 more centuries and that'll definitely stop the no inzi and javed scored this many runs valid argument. The madlad popped out of nowhere to contest not even in the fab 4 but ahead of them! i cant ever recall any of our batsman cruising past the 4 greats of their gen.
 
yxsr said:
Yes dude he is the greatest odi batsman for pakistan. I dont care how many runs the former have scored this guy's wristwork, technique, work ethic, discipline, calmness on the crease, flair shots, can attack if he wants, can defend if he wants and one or the most aesthetic to the eye to watch. He's complete

Babar is our ODI great. All he needs is like 10 more centuries and that'll definitely stop the no inzi and javed scored this many runs valid argument. The madlad popped out of nowhere to contest not even in the fab 4 but ahead of them! i cant ever recall any of our batsman cruising past the 4 greats of their gen.
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Miandad, Inzi, Saeed Anwar were all competitive
 
Well played Babar Azam.

Man of Match in Finals
Man of tournament
Won the tournament

All boxes ticked. Nailed it.
 
3 years ago [MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] called him Kohli's successor. I knew Babar was quality then, but to be honest, given his shy and introverted presence, I was not sure that he could rise so exponentially in such a short time.
I say that chief has been vindicated today.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

Very interested in your opinion here. I'm usually a fan of your scepticism (perhaps cynicism), but I wonder if it's applicable to Babar Azam.
 
Pacy with wisdom said:
3 years ago [MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] called him Kohli's successor. I knew Babar was quality then, but to be honest, given his shy and introverted presence, I was not sure that he could rise so exponentially in such a short time.
I say that chief has been vindicated today.
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Is [MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] still a member of the forum? Miss his insights.
 
We are truly living in the age of Bobby and this Bobbiness has started feeling nice.
 
Tubs said:
Is it too soon to call him the best ODI batsman for Pakistan? If so, who is ahead of him?
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I have watched 3 batsmen that go into contention for greatest ever Pakistani batsmen in their prime . . Inzamam, Yousuf and Younis . . I have also watched Saeed Anwar (who is one of my personal all time favorite batsman) . . and I can say ease that even at this stage of Babar's career, none of those 4 were even remotely close to him . . Inzi was incredibly talented and perhaps more gifted than Babar too . . but he never made it in the big league! Under performed as far as I am concerned . . multiple reasons . . all of them played in a much better team than Babar is (hence putting more pressure on Babar's batting) . .

Babar's consistency, work ethic, understanding of the game, control, awareness of his own game, strengths & weaknesses, fitness, etc. are all top notch . . obviously, there are areas that he still needs to work on i.e. finishing games . . chasing targets of 270 and above . . etc. etc. but then which Pakistani batsman was adept at that? Chasing has been our Achilles heel since I have been watching cricket closely (1996) . .

Yes, there are arguments on comparing different eras . . class of bowlers they faced vs. babar . . pitches . . bats . . etc. etc.

But I am very clear in my mind . . Babar is the greatest LOI batsman Pak has produced even at this stage . . and should absolutely go onto become the greatest Pak batsman ever . . and by a fair margin . . To me there are only two things that stand in the way: 1.) Injury and 2.) His captaincy!

Unfortunately, I haven't watched Javed Miandad so can't draw a comparison there . . Perhaps [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION], etc. can shed some light on the comparison
 
NauV said:
I have watched 3 batsmen that go into contention for greatest ever Pakistani batsmen in their prime . . Inzamam, Yousuf and Younis . . I have also watched Saeed Anwar (who is one of my personal all time favorite batsman) . . and I can say ease that even at this stage of Babar's career, none of those 4 were even remotely close to him . . Inzi was incredibly talented and perhaps more gifted than Babar too . . but he never made it in the big league! Under performed as far as I am concerned . . multiple reasons . . all of them played in a much better team than Babar is (hence putting more pressure on Babar's batting) . .

Babar's consistency, work ethic, understanding of the game, control, awareness of his own game, strengths & weaknesses, fitness, etc. are all top notch . . obviously, there are areas that he still needs to work on i.e. finishing games . . chasing targets of 270 and above . . etc. etc. but then which Pakistani batsman was adept at that? Chasing has been our Achilles heel since I have been watching cricket closely (1996) . .

Yes, there are arguments on comparing different eras . . class of bowlers they faced vs. babar . . pitches . . bats . . etc. etc.

But I am very clear in my mind . . Babar is the greatest LOI batsman Pak has produced even at this stage . . and should absolutely go onto become the greatest Pak batsman ever . . and by a fair margin . . To me there are only two things that stand in the way: 1.) Injury and 2.) His captaincy!

Unfortunately, I haven't watched Javed Miandad so can't draw a comparison there . . Perhaps [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION], etc. can shed some light on the comparison
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THIS. PREACH.

As for Miandad i'll say we should keep him exactly on par with Babar. His strength wasnt being classy like babar but gutsy like a fighter. A duo of Babar and Javed with these attributes would be a match made in heaven and will compliment eachother just like our Wasim and Waqar did
 
I don't think any Pakistani fan ever would've imagined that we'd have a batsman who'd be going toe to toe against the best batsmen in the world, still kind of unbelievable.

He still has around 6-7 prime years where the bulk of his run scoring will occur along with many tests. But for once we know that this isn't going to be an Akmal or Jamshed ending.
 
Tubs said:
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

Very interested in your opinion here. I'm usually a fan of your scepticism (perhaps cynicism), but I wonder if it's applicable to Babar Azam.
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He will never be better than Kohli, but he is Pakistan’s greatest batsman. Unless something bizarre happens, he should break almost every Pakistani batting record by volume.

As captain, he should be judged by his individual performance and not his W/L ratio. He is captaining one of the worst sides in the world, and people should not expect miracles.
 
I was hyping him a lot but decided to tone it down after the England tour. I was somewhat disappointed by his test performances. I mean it wasn't bad but not great either.

He was getting squared up a lot because he was facing decent bowlers on testing surfaces and this looked real ugly. I'm sure he will learn from that experience though.

Recently he faced Zimbabwe and had a really good PSL. It wasn't the toughest assignments he's had but has proven to be a good batsman elsewhere especially Australia.

I look forward to him bashing tougher opponents and not just minnows and T20 pyjama leagues.
 
Kroll said:
I was hyping him a lot but decided to tone it down after the England tour. I was somewhat disappointed by his test performances. I mean it wasn't bad but not great either.

He was getting squared up a lot because he was facing decent bowlers on testing surfaces and this looked real ugly. I'm sure he will learn from that experience though.

Recently he faced Zimbabwe and had a really good PSL. It wasn't the toughest assignments he's had but has proven to be a good batsman elsewhere especially Australia.

I look forward to him bashing tougher opponents and not just minnows and T20 pyjama leagues.
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The new zeleand will be a massive test even bigger than the test in England due to the conditions
 
Mamoon said:
He will never be better than Kohli, but he is Pakistan’s greatest batsman. Unless something bizarre happens, he should break almost every Pakistani batting record by volume.

As captain, he should be judged by his individual performance and not his W/L ratio. He is captaining one of the worst sides in the world, and people should not expect miracles.
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I think babar just needs to finish games off then he can be on the same level as kohli that's the only different between the two
 
shamaan said:
I think babar just needs to finish games off then he can be on the same level as kohli that's the only different between the two
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Babar is also better than Kohli in some departments. As I already pointed out, you can't expect Kohli to come in the first over and hit those 2 boundaries against Shaheen, hit those that many boundaries against Starc/Cummins as Babar did in the world cup. Babar is much more at ease against good bowlers.
 
Mobashir said:
Babar is also better than Kohli in some departments. As I already pointed out, you can't expect Kohli to come in the first over and hit those 2 boundaries against Shaheen, hit those that many boundaries against Starc/Cummins as Babar did in the world cup. Babar is much more at ease against good bowlers.
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Am not saying he isnt all am saying is only one thing that he lacks is win matches and daddy hundreds
 
NauV said:
I have watched 3 batsmen that go into contention for greatest ever Pakistani batsmen in their prime . . Inzamam, Yousuf and Younis . . I have also watched Saeed Anwar (who is one of my personal all time favorite batsman) . . and I can say ease that even at this stage of Babar's career, none of those 4 were even remotely close to him . . Inzi was incredibly talented and perhaps more gifted than Babar too . . but he never made it in the big league! Under performed as far as I am concerned . . multiple reasons . . all of them played in a much better team than Babar is (hence putting more pressure on Babar's batting) . .

Babar's consistency, work ethic, understanding of the game, control, awareness of his own game, strengths & weaknesses, fitness, etc. are all top notch . . obviously, there are areas that he still needs to work on i.e. finishing games . . chasing targets of 270 and above . . etc. etc. but then which Pakistani batsman was adept at that? Chasing has been our Achilles heel since I have been watching cricket closely (1996) . .

Yes, there are arguments on comparing different eras . . class of bowlers they faced vs. babar . . pitches . . bats . . etc. etc.

But I am very clear in my mind . . Babar is the greatest LOI batsman Pak has produced even at this stage . . and should absolutely go onto become the greatest Pak batsman ever . . and by a fair margin . . To me there are only two things that stand in the way: 1.) Injury and 2.) His captaincy!

Unfortunately, I haven't watched Javed Miandad so can't draw a comparison there . . Perhaps [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION], etc. can shed some light on the comparison
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I have to disappoint you here bro.

Since you haven't seen Javed, means you haven't seen almost anything of PAK cricket - it ended with 1999 WC. If I make a PAK all-time ODI XI with 5 batsmen (Imran & Razzak will bat at 6 & 7, so 5 batsmen), Babar actually won't make my XI still. I don't find him still to replace Mazid, Saeed, Zaheer, Javed and Inzi in that line-up .... if fact won't be reserve over MoYo.

Don't get me wrong - he is head & shoulders above his compatriots, but he is extremely lucky to play for a PAK team that's basically been relegated to second division of International cricket, hence he is scoring lots of soft runs - either against lower ranked teams or compromised XI. Comparison of average & strike rate will be a bit mis-leading here as he is playing in 300+ era, but if I go by the contribution - he is way behind any of these five/six.

I think, I have seen most of Babar's ODI innings - so far only one innings which had some significance in PAK's win in a competitive game was the WC knock against NZ, where Haris played better than him - came at four, so he didn't have the time to hit the hundred. Babar is still a very good accumulator who puts up lots of runs, but if you compare what those 5/6 did in terms of contribution, it's not even a contest yet. In fact, Salim Malik has played more meaningful innings than Babar - couple of mind blowing fifties at Eden, a brilliant chase at Toronto on day 3 wicket against Kumble (chasing 263 I guess), some where in between 1993-94 couple of innings against SAF & AUS....

Starting one by one - Mazid played very few games .... still one of the best early days ODI innings was played by him in 1974 against ENG, chasing like 264... Zaheer matched Viv's stats including facing Viv's bowlers; Javed scored 91 in last 12 overs with AQadir, Wasim & Tauseef, in 1986 ... then hit a last ball six; and I believe you have seen Inzi's 60 in WC or his hundred at Ahmedabad, Karachi.

One particular difference is that PAK cricket sunk so much in last 10-12 years that there is a generation gap between 2007-8 (MoYo's decline) to Babar's raise - in that period ODI cricket has moved from 220 per to 320 per state hence numbers are mind blowing. Few months back, I almost lost my speech when someone posted that Imam-Fakhar-Babar are PAK's historically best 1-2-3 ..... but then, statistically true indeed; in fact they are better than Hynes-Grineedge-Viv; Tendulkar-Ganguly-Sehwag or Gilchrist-Mark/Hayden-Ponting..... statistically.

So, not going by stats, in last 3-4 years, I had memories of Babar failing every time PAK needed him to score or finish - from the Asia Cup KO against BD to WC 2019, CT 2017 or any serious series/game that PAK has played - NZ, SAF, ENG, AUS ..... 5 games against IND .... the last one been ZIM - no bro, no dead rubbers these days - that one loss against ZIM might cost PAK big time, it was worth 10 points. Javed's numbers are relatively poor because he played for a PAK team against whom every team including Lloyd/Viv's WIN will send their best XI - still he was unreal consistent, sometimes between 1987 to 1988, he scored 8 or 9 consecutive 50s when 200 was almost match winning - forward those games 30 years, Javed would have 6-7 hundreds from those innings only. One thing you are not considering that, when PAK players used to get on to field during those 5's time, they were playing to win every game, obviously it won't happen, but no one, not even Ponting's Australia would take it easy - they did lose a home series 2-1. Current PAK team plays to compete with big boys... the pressure and context is totally different. At one point, AUS-PAK ODI H2H was 16-16, and most of those games were played in AUS, with their umpires .... I guess you can understand what I have done here.

What's Babar missing - I give one example - 1997, Independence Cup in India, PAK lost WW to Counties ... then lost to NZ in first game - so to make the finals, first they had to beat world champs SRL, then host India. It poised beautifully when IND-PAK last game became SF .... that guy Saeed Anwar smashed 194 in that game. Few months later, in Kenya - PAK lost to SAF twice ... so to make the Finals, they had to win over World Champs SRL by 89 runs margin and Rantunga put PAK in so that basically they can chase 89 less to make the final .... that guy Afridi scored 102 in 38 balls, Saeed 100+ ... and PAK 370+, winning by 91 to make the Final. Babar Azam missed Mustafiz's straight one chasing 240 against a BD attack with 2 bowlers short and Shakib injured.........

The stakes are different these days - you have seen Babar scoring 125 against ZIM without Jarvis & Sibanda ... still losing the game .... I have seen PAK 10-2 against McGrath & Fleming in a gloomy Leeds morning in WC effectively QF game, still winning for Inzi's batting; I have seen in mid night PAK chasing 260 in 45 overs against Marshall, Bishop, Ambrose & Walsh - that guy Inzi lofting Ambrose to extra cover crowd .... you saw Afghans stressing PAK to last ball on their adopted home ... you have seen PAK losing 12 out of 13 games against ENG, NZ, IND & BD (Other one washed out) - I have seen PAK facing elimination in Neheru Cup, then winning 4 at a stress - Australia at Mumbai, India at Eden, ENG at Nugpur (That was an epic chase, try to figure out the score card) ..... and then 278 against WIN at Eden in the finals .... and irony is - that target that time was also 279, against Marshall of 1989, Ambrose, Walsh & Benjamin .....

I hope it won't hurt your feelings - your generation have seen Babar among Shan Masood, Imam Ul Haq, Abid Ali, Iftekhar and Harish Sohail .... my generation have seen Mazid, Zaheer, Javed, Saeed, Inzi among themselves and tugging horns with Richards, Greg, Lara, Tendulkar, Ponting, Jones, Crowe, Gower, Lloyd .... my assessments and expectations will be different for a reason.
 
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