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Babar Azam versus Lokesh Rahul

systemsrocket said:
Don't care when he still has only one century to show. A freaking single century. No one takes his test record seriously.
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If you’re gonna thump you’re chest like that let me remind you Rahul is nowhere close to babar in Odis or t20is. Babar is the number one batsman in t20s though you’re gonna say that isn’t even a proper format because you’re indian and you don’t care about it. Babar wasn’t focussing on test cricket much he will soon average more than Rahul I promise you just wait and watch. By the way Rahul is a great batsman I’ve always said it he’s amazing too watch to when he’s in full flow but the problem is that will happen only 1/10 times so when it will happen tomorrow or two years later you never know.
 
Mean&Green said:
If you’re gonna thump you’re chest like that let me remind you Rahul is nowhere close to babar in Odis or t20is. Babar is the number one batsman in t20s though you’re gonna say that isn’t even a proper format because you’re indian and you don’t care about it. Babar wasn’t focussing on test cricket much he will soon average more than Rahul I promise you just wait and watch. By the way Rahul is a great batsman I’ve always said it he’s amazing too watch to when he’s in full flow but the problem is that will happen only 1/10 times so when it will happen tomorrow or two years later you never know.
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Rahul as a batsman will always be a flawed batsman due to his nervous mentality and couple of technical issues. For India's sake i hope he turns around. Right now not good enough to be compared with other successful batsmen in the world.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] I think Rahul is better if ever performed consistently but do you think he has it in him to perform consistently what he’s shown is that he just can’t really perform at the international stage for some reason it might be nazar or just isn’t interested from what it looks like. He’s more happy about the fact that he got 3 million followers on Instagram. Thoughts
 
systemsrocket said:
Yeah just like Ravi Ashwin. Also that is why he has been averaging 50 in the past one year because he can stay not outs as has been seen in the South Africa test series and boost his average.
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How many not outs does he even have???
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Rahul as a batsman will always be a flawed batsman due to his nervous mentality and couple of technical issues. For India's sake i hope he turns around. Right now not good enough to be compared with other successful batsmen in the world.
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You know I read something like if Rahul performs like this on Cricbuzz that India’s middle order will be extremely formidable which is very true. But I still think even if Rahul performs will India be able to chase 400+. What do you think.
 
systemsrocket said:
Yeah just like Ravi Ashwin. Also that is why he has been averaging 50 in the past one year because he can stay not outs as has been seen in the South Africa test series and boost his average.
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He had zero not outs in the sa series. So stop lying to prove your point.
 
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Mean&Green said:
If you’re gonna thump you’re chest like that let me remind you Rahul is nowhere close to babar in Odis or t20is. Babar is the number one batsman in t20s though you’re gonna say that isn’t even a proper format because you’re indian and you don’t care about it. Babar wasn’t focussing on test cricket much he will soon average more than Rahul I promise you just wait and watch. By the way Rahul is a great batsman I’ve always said it he’s amazing too watch to when he’s in full flow but the problem is that will happen only 1/10 times so when it will happen tomorrow or two years later you never know.
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Well let us see whether he proves me wrong or not. But i can tell you KL Rahul will overshadow Babar Azam in test cricket by a good margin.

In t20s. I don't think KL Rahul played much int T20s recently, i guess 2 or 3, though in one of them he got a hundred. He has played a lot more franchise t20s in comparison to int t20s.. if you want to compare both of them in franchise cricket then you are welcomed.

In ODIs, let KL first settled in the team, we will see what's in store for us.
 
Mean&Green said:
You know I read something like if Rahul performs like this on Cricbuzz that India’s middle order will be extremely formidable which is very true. But I still think even if Rahul performs will India be able to chase 400+. What do you think.
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yes. India will be in a much better position when it comes to battathons against sides like England. One reason is Rahul is capable of exploding like nobody's business like he did in the last season against Boult and Shami. He reached his 50 3rd over of the match. He just has sort himself out mentally. He has to understand his role clearly. At this point his main goal should be to own no.4 spot. He can be a match winner.
 
systemsrocket said:
Well let us see whether he proves me wrong or not. But i can tell you KL Rahul will overshadow Babar Azam in test cricket by a good margin.

In t20s. I don't think KL Rahul played much int T20s recently, i guess 2 or 3, though in one of them he got a hundred. He has played a lot more franchise t20s in comparison to int t20s.. if you want to compare both of them in franchise cricket then you are welcomed.

In ODIs, let KL first settled in the team, we will see what's in store for us.
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Lol. He's gonna do a lot for ind in test cricket?
Isn't he the same player who the majority of indians wanted to kick out of the team??
 
systemsrocket said:
Well let us see whether he proves me wrong or not. But i can tell you KL Rahul will overshadow Babar Azam in test cricket by a good margin.

In t20s. I don't think KL Rahul played much int T20s recently, i guess 2 or 3, though in one of them he got a hundred. He has played a lot more franchise t20s in comparison to int t20s.. if you want to compare both of them in franchise cricket then you are welcomed.

In ODIs, let KL first settled in the team, we will see what's in store for us.
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Lmao u serious mate ? If you want to compare them in franchise t20 cricket we can do that shows on what type of cricket you judge a player. If you’re gonna judge over franchise t20 cricket kohli would seem like a poor player too
 
Mean&Green said:
Lmao u serious mate ? If you want to compare them in franchise t20 cricket we can do that shows on what type of cricket you judge a player. If you’re gonna judge over franchise t20 cricket kohli would seem like a poor player too
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Quite the opposite. No wonder you are as clueless as they come. Do take a look at Virat Kohli's IPL career.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Lol. He's gonna do a lot for ind in test cricket?
Isn't he the same player who the majority of indians wanted to kick out of the team??
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Rahul is a better test batsman than babar. Babar can't replicate Rahul's performance against Australia in 2017 even in his dreams.
 
Babar doesn't have a single match winning centuries in ODI against top teams, let me repeat not a single one, a mediocre test player and a decent t20 player. PP hype machine will make you believe he is the second coming of Bradman while in reality he is a poor man's MD Yousuf.
 
Hyperion66 said:
Babar doesn't have a single match winning centuries in ODI against top teams, let me repeat not a single one, a mediocre test player and a decent t20 player. PP hype machine will make you believe he is the second coming of Bradman while in reality he is a poor man's MD Yousuf.
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The stage is set for him to prove himself. So before coming up a conclusion, WATCH the whole wc first.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
I checked the stats. The guy hit 6 fifties.
And guess where the series was...
Surprise surprise INDIA.
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That series had some of the toughest pitches of recent times, even Kohli was clueless with his footwork and shot selection, if it wasn't for Rahul we would have lost that series. Come back when Babar gives a performance like that in UAE.
 
systemsrocket said:
Quite the opposite. No wonder you are as clueless as they come. Do take a look at Virat Kohli's IPL career.
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Average of 37 while rahuls is 42 and virat averages 50 in international t20 cricket. Check you facts before blabbing. You saying compare babar and Rahul in franchise t20 cricket shows you know since you can’t compare them in real cricket you will compare their stats in Mickey Mouse cricket. Where I proved you wrong as well saying virat averages more in international t20s than he does in IPL. Hence proven comparing franchise cricket stats doesn’t prove crap.
 
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Hyperion66 said:
That series had some of the toughest pitches of recent times, even Kohli was clueless with his footwork and shot selection, if it wasn't for Rahul we would have lost that series. Come back when Babar gives a performance like that in UAE.
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Steve smith clearly didn't find it tough.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
The stage is set for him to prove himself. So before coming up a conclusion, WATCH the whole wc first.
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One grain is enough to tell if the rice is cooked, you don't have to taste the whole pot. I have seen enough of Babar to make up my own opinion about him, I don't think he is as good as Inzi or Yousuf let alone his Indian counterparts, he is incredibly over-hyped here due to scarcity of world-class batsmen in Pak.
 
Mean&Green said:
Average of 37 while rahuls is 42 and virat averages 50 in international t20 cricket. Check you facts before blabbing. You saying compare babar and Rahul in franchise t20 cricket shows you know since you can’t compare them in real cricket you will compare their stats in Mickey Mouse cricket. Where I proved you wrong as well saying virat averages more in international t20s than he does in IPL. Hence proven comparing franchise cricket stats doesn’t prove crap. “Clueless as they come” lol go find a place to hide somewhere now.
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And as i said as clueless as they come.

Do you know how many seasons both kohli and Rahul have played?

Do you know that Virat Kohli breached a 900 runs mark in a season... in a freaking season? The only player to do so scoring 4 centuries. Cricketers don't even make that in an int career even after facing substandard 2nd string bowling attack of most teams.

Do you even know how many times he has been the top scorer of IPL?

Do you even have a freaking idea how many int t20 matches has KL played to be even compared to Kohli who has been the player of the tournament for 2 t20 world cups.

Kid you are embarrassing yourself.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Steve smith clearly didn't find it tough.
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Which is why Smith is arguably the best test batsman in the world, while Rahul was a newbie yet delivered when his team needed him the most. Babar has done nothing of that sort, neither home nor away.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
I checked the stats. The guy hit 6 fifties.
And guess where the series was...
Surprise surprise INDIA.
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You should have watches the series. You wouldn't have said just 5 centuries, then. Let me tell you, if babar was to play on such pitches, he would look like a taileneder.
 
Hyperion66 said:
Babar doesn't have a single match winning centuries in ODI against top teams, let me repeat not a single one, a mediocre test player and a decent t20 player. PP hype machine will make you believe he is the second coming of Bradman while in reality he is a poor man's MD Yousuf.
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Are you serious no one can even have the audacity to compare these two or even say Rahul is better based on their stats so far. You’d look like a fool if you said Rahul is better than babar to any professional cricketer except sanjay menajrekar. Calling him a decent t20 player shows your jealousy when the guy averages 50 in the format and is the number one batsman in the format as well. Averages 50 as well in Odis and probably the second or third best bat in odi cricket yet you compare him with some Rahul who can’t even find a place in his teams xi consistently. Babar averages 50+ in tests this year and will only get better . Go use some burnol you need it badly
 
systemsrocket said:
And as i said as clueless as they come.

Do you know how many seasons both kohli and Rahul have played?

Do you know that Virat Kohli breached a 900 runs mark in a season... in a freaking season? The only player to do so scoring 4 centuries. Cricketers don't even make that in an int career even after facing substandard 2nd string bowling attack of most teams.

Do you even know how many times he has been the top scorer of IPL?

Do you even have a freaking idea how many int t20 matches has KL played to be even compared to Kohli who has been the player of the tournament for 2 t20 world cups.

Kid you are embarrassing yourself.
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No one in the cricketing world cares about a t20 league when it comes to rating a batsman which shows how childish you are son. I already proved to you how his average is better in intl than in IPL that doesn’t mean he is a bad player hence t20 leagues don’t prove crap. All those meaningless stats you put are of no value as he couldn’t even win them a single IPL. After all those stats it still comes down to average which is 37 in IPL and 50 in intl. You can cry all about how he smashed ashok dinda and Ramesh powar in IPL but you still won’t be able to get over the fact how dumb you sounded when you wanted to compare Babars and rahuls franchise t20 stats to prove who’s better you’re just a terrible joke.
 
Mean&Green said:
Are you serious no one can even have the audacity to compare these two or even say Rahul is better based on their stats so far. You’d look like a fool if you said Rahul is better than babar to any professional cricketer except sanjay menajrekar. Calling him a decent t20 player shows your jealousy when the guy averages 50 in the format and is the number one batsman in the format as well. Averages 50 as well in Odis and probably the second or third best bat in odi cricket yet you compare him with some Rahul who can’t even find a place in his teams xi consistently. Babar averages 50+ in tests this year and will only get better . Go use some burnol you need it badly
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Rahul can't find place in Indian team consistently due to us having superior batting standards, he would be the first name on the sheet if he was playing for Pak. I am sorry I don't take soft runs against Silapama and Junior Dala seriously. No matter how much you whine, the fact needs to be said loudly, which is;Babar has done nothing of note in test cricket, scored soft runs in ODI and there are at least a dozen player better than him in T20s, now you can take that burnol and apply it yourself.
 
Mean&Green said:
No one in the cricketing world cares about a t20 league when it comes to rating a batsman which shows how childish you are son. I already proved to you how his average is better in intl than in IPL that doesn’t mean he is a bad player hence t20 leagues don’t prove crap. All those meaningless stats you put are of no value as he couldn’t even win them a single IPL. After all those stats it still comes down to average which is 37 in IPL and 50 in intl. You can cry all about how he smashed ashok dinda and Ramesh powar in IPL but you still won’t be able to get over the fact how dumb you sounded when you wanted to compare Babars and rahuls franchise t20 stats to prove who’s better you’re just a terrible joke.
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And now you go onto blabber how no one cares about ipl after putting forward Kohli's ipl and average and international average after getting a good slap on the face.

Don't worry, no cares whether a pakistani cares about IPL or not.

It is quite funny that you say, you don't care about IPL and still continue to compare Kohli's IPL average to Kohi's international t20 average. Don't whether you are really dumb or trying to act like on.


Talking of not being able to win IPL, well let us not talk about that because then i can really embarass pakistani legends by mentioning them just because they couldn't win pakistan the world cup. They still are reguarded pakistani legends even when they couldn't win you a WC.

Now let me tell you your minnow basher babar azam's ODI career just because you mentioned Kohli not being able to win his IPL team.

Tell me what has your babar azam done against top 5 teams.
In his ODI career, he has scored more than half of his runs against minnows.
His only good series against top 5 team came against England where he scored his 2nd century against top 5 teams out of 7-8 ODI centuries, both of them selfish and in losing cause.

Don't embarass yourself further
 
Babar vs Rahul:

Tests: Babar in SENA and Rahul in Asia. They average virtually the same, so lets call this a stalemate.

ODIs: Babar by a mile
T20Is: Rahul by a mile

Babar is 24 whilst Lokesh is 27, so I have the Pakistani ahead at present, but this can easily change by the end of their careers, since India has a stronger batting culture and I feel their batsman has a higher ceiling because he has already developed power-hitting skills and is a far superior player of spin. Babar seems content with his current accomplishments.
 
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Hyperion66 said:
Rahul can't find place in Indian team consistently due to us having superior batting standards, he would be the first name on the sheet if he was playing for Pak. I am sorry I don't take soft runs against Silapama and Junior Dala seriously. No matter how much you whine, the fact needs to be said loudly, which is;Babar has done nothing of note in test cricket, scored soft runs in ODI and there are at least a dozen player better than him in T20s, now you can take that burnol and apply it yourself.
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Superior batting standards as in? Sharma not being able to the play moving ball stuck on the crease. Dhawan can’t score or play the ball coming into the left hander. Jadhav is unfit. You don’t even know who your number 4 is yet. Vijay Shankar who himself doesn’t even know how he got into the side . Dhoni way past his best. So I don’t know what batting standards you are talking about because Rahul is a lot better than all these guys so I’m not sure why he can’t find a place in the side hmm. Babar would have scored against any bowler he smashed Steyn in South Africa so I don’t know what you’re trying to imply. It all comes down to average and who has better stats when you compare players not if the runs scored were hard or soft. Rahul is a great player and can be better than babar but I don’t think he ever will be as he is extremely inconsistent and does not have that type of hunger or interest in the game to reach that level.
 
systemsrocket said:
And now you go onto blabber how no one cares about ipl after putting forward Kohli's ipl and average and international average after getting a good slap on the face.

Don't worry, no cares whether a pakistani cares about IPL or not.

It is quite funny that you say, you don't care about IPL and still continue to compare Kohli's IPL average to Kohi's international t20 average. Don't whether you are really dumb or trying to act like on.


Talking of not being able to win IPL, well let us not talk about that because then i can really embarass pakistani legends by mentioning them just because they couldn't win pakistan the world cup. They still are reguarded pakistani legends even when they couldn't win you a WC.

Now let me tell you your minnow basher babar azam's ODI career just because you mentioned Kohli not being able to win his IPL team.

Tell me what has your babar azam done against top 5 teams.
In his ODI career, he has scored more than half of his runs against minnows.
His only good series against top 5 team came against England where he scored his 2nd century against top 5 teams out of 7-8 ODI centuries, both of them selfish and in losing cause.

Don't embarass yourself further
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To finish you off right now you brought in “lets compare babars and rahuls franchise t20 performance” hence I brought in kohlis IPL average as that is franchise cricket to show how he averages more in intl than in IPL which goes onto show it doesn’t matter what you average in franchise t20 cricket if you are a better intl player which kohli is and Rahul clearly isn’t. You already shot your self on the foot when you went onto say let’s compare their franchise t20 stats that was enough to prove how much you know about cricket and your level of cricketing knowledge.
 
Mean&Green said:
Superior batting standards as in? Sharma not being able to the play moving ball stuck on the crease. Dhawan can’t score or play the ball coming into the left hander. Jadhav is unfit. You don’t even know who your number 4 is yet. Vijay Shankar who himself doesn’t even know how he got into the side . Dhoni way past his best. So I don’t know what batting standards you are talking about because Rahul is a lot better than all these guys so I’m not sure why he can’t find a place in the side hmm. Babar would have scored against any bowler he smashed Steyn in South Africa so I don’t know what you’re trying to imply. It all comes down to average and who has better stats when you compare players not if the runs scored were hard or soft. Rahul is a great player and can be better than babar but I don’t think he ever will be as he is extremely inconsistent and does not have that type of hunger or interest in the game to reach that level.
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How old are you? Please don't get me wrong, I don't mean to sound rude but you need to watch more test cricket if you think playing a few stylish good looking shots against a great bowler is the definition of talent.
 
Mean&Green said:
To finish you off right now you brought in “lets compare babars and rahuls franchise t20 performance” hence I brought in kohlis IPL average as that is franchise cricket to show how he averages more in intl than in IPL which goes onto show it doesn’t matter what you average in franchise t20 cricket if you are a better intl player which kohli is and Rahul clearly isn’t. You already shot your self on the foot when you went onto say let’s compare their franchise t20 stats that was enough to prove how much you know about cricket and your level of cricketing knowledge.
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I know i have embarrassed yourself but don't let that affect you so much that you don't even remember the things i wrote, that is if you actually read them.


I said babar has played many iint t20s as compared to KL it isn't fair to comoare both of their int t20 records and the only way is to comoare franchise cricket which is the only t20s KL has played, but then you went on to mention Kohli and what not. I mean what were you thinking when you brought kohli in this discussion and prove him to be better in t20 int as compared to IPL. When he is reguarded as one of the best t20 players irrespective of his ipl career. He hasn't played much t20 int and only ipl over the years

I see, you are still stuck on average without even considering SR, i guess you don't know what t20 is, do you? People will take 18 or 20 ball 40 than 27 ball 40 in t20's. Welcome to t20 cricket. I guess i have taught you new thing today.
 
systemsrocket said:
I know i have embarrassed yourself but don't let that affect you so much that you don't even remember the things i wrote, that is if you actually read them.


I said babar has played many iint t20s as compared to KL it isn't fair to comoare both of their int t20 records and the only way is to comoare franchise cricket which is the only t20s KL has played, but then you went on to mention Kohli and what not. I mean what were you thinking when you brought kohli in this discussion and prove him to be better in t20 int as compared to IPL. When he is reguarded as one of the best t20 players irrespective of his ipl career. He hasn't played much t20 int and only ipl over the years

I see, you are still stuck on average without even considering SR, i guess you don't know what t20 is, do you? People will take 18 or 20 ball 40 than 27 ball 40 in t20's. Welcome to t20 cricket. I guess i have taught you new thing today.
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Jeez, the way you're defending Rahul it seems like he's the second kohli. But i hate to break it to ya, Rahul is a nobody.
 
Hyperion66 said:
How old are you? Please don't get me wrong, I don't mean to sound rude but you need to watch more test cricket if you think playing a few stylish good looking shots against a great bowler is the definition of talent.
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I’m old enough to know how talented a batsman is and babar is not only extremely talented but pure class. Even sunny g watching him bat was impressed so that is enough to prove how talented he is. Also yes you can say a batsman is talented if he plays those type of brilliant strokes against arguably the best test fast bowler of this decade so yes that is enough to assume how talented he is if that isn’t you can still see his average in other formats and how he is being regarded as a very a good player by the cricketing world as wel
 
Mean&Green said:
I’m probably way older than you and coming to your last post the only person you’re embarrassing is yourself and have been since the moment you brought up comparing franchise cricket. Also what I taught you today was to go check the stats and facts before you open your mouth and blab obnoxiously. Coming back to kohli to being regarded as the one of the best t20 player because he was once the fastest to a thousand runs and averages over 50 in intl t20s that’s why he’s regarded as one of the best in t20s not because he’s smashed Dindas and powars in IPL
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Its quite funny to see you repeat my sentences in your posts. But why am i not surprised?

You know nothing about franchise cricket and that is clear when you say "dindas of ipl" but not mention "sipamlas or dalas of int t20 cricket".

And now let me teach you one more thing. Kohli is reguarded as one of the best players of t20 crickwt because he has scored in QFs and SF of world t20 and not just because of his so called 50 average. The man hasn't even played much t20 cricket in the past one year and this tells you how much he cares about bilateral t20s int and his 50 average in t20.

Again stuck on average. You really have to sort out your idea of t20.
 
systemsrocket said:
Its quite funny to see you repeat my sentences in your posts. But why am i not surprised?

You know nothing about franchise cricket and that is clear when you say "dindas of ipl" but not mention "sipamlas or dalas of int t20 cricket".

And now let me teach you one more thing. Kohli is reguarded as one of the best players of t20 crickwt because he has scored in QFs and SF of world t20 and not just because of his so called 50 average. The man hasn't even played much t20 cricket in the past one year and this tells you how much he cares about bilateral t20s int and his 50 average in t20.

Again stuck on average. You really have to sort out your idea of t20.
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He cares more about IPL is becuase of money and I can assure you he would skip odi series as well just to do better in IPL. Also he missed newzeland series to spend time with his wife. Virat is a different story let’s focus on the thread title and the two Rahul and babar. This World Cup will also prove who stands where so let’s watch and enjoy and come back to this topic after the World Cup is over or were in the middle stage.
 
Mean&Green said:
He cares more about IPL is becuase of money and I can assure you he would skip odi series as well just to do better in IPL. Also he missed newzeland series to spend time with his wife. Virat is a different story let’s focus on the thread title and the two Rahul and babar. This World Cup will also prove who stands where so let’s watch and enjoy and come back to this topic after the World Cup is over or were in the middle stage.
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Good. I hope we both will be right.
 
Lol first time in a long time Rahul has performed and that too in a warm-up match. No wonder posters are running to this thread.

Let him perform consistently and then mention his name in the same sentence as Bobby.
 
Too early to bump this thread. Rahul has always done this. He plays one brilliant knock and then disappears. Don't be surprised if he is replaced in the middle of the tournament with Vijay or by Karthik or someone by the end of it. I will wait till he plays couple of good knocks in the main tournament.
 
babar azam is a tailender in tests. rahul has centuries in australia against mitch johnson et al and in england against anderson et al.
 
Let's look into individual formats.

T20s: Even though Babar is #1 ranked batsman, he has nothing on Rahul in terms of stroke play, strike rate and the ability to breakdown the opposition bowlers. Rahul and Buttler are the top T20 batsmen going around, irrespective of what ranking says. I think they don't factor in the SR, which is the most important thing in T20s.

Tests: Even though Rahul's performance is declining, some of his feats early in his career trumps anything Babar has done in this format.

ODIs: A slight advantage to Babar here for his consistency, although his ability to perform against top teams has still some question marks. But, again, Rahul has hardly played ODIs for India. It's soon to judge him in this format.

Advantage to Rahul, for being a better player in two formats.
 
balthazar said:
let's look into individual formats.

T20s: Even though babar is #1 ranked batsman, he has nothing on rahul in terms of stroke play, strike rate and the ability to breakdown the opposition bowlers. Rahul and buttler are the top t20 batsmen going around, irrespective of what ranking says. I think they don't factor in the sr, which is the most important thing in t20s.

Tests: Even though rahul's performance is declining, some of his feats early in his career trumps anything babar has done in this format.

Odis: A slight advantage to babar here for his consistency, although his ability to perform against top teams has still some question marks. But, again, rahul has hardly played odis for india. It's soon to judge him in this format.

Advantage to rahul, for being a better player in two formats.
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lol just throw the stats into orbit and make your own hypothetical scenarios well done 👍
 
geraltofrivia said:
babar azam is a tailender in tests. rahul has centuries in australia against mitch johnson et al and in england against anderson et al.
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Jerome Taylor has a 100 against newzeland in newzeland and Ajit Agarkar has a hundred against England in England that would make them better than babar and Rahul I assume.
 
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Ronaldo7 said:
Steve smith clearly didn't find it tough.
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Smith in those 2 years was the best test batsman in a generation. Not the strongest argument.


Babar >>> KL as things stand ; Indian fans need to accept the former's talent and consistency.

They have Shubman Gill who will likely be better than both so there is no need to feel insecure.
 
Rahul might end up getting dropped for Vijay Shankar halfway through the WC.

Next we'll have a Babar Azam vs Vijay Shankar thread on PP :yk2
 
systemsrocket said:
Don't care when he still has only one century to show. A freaking single century. No one takes his test record seriously.
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According to your logic Shahid Afridi Was Better Test Player Then Rohit Sharma.Shikar Dhawan Rehane Ashwin murali Vijay
Kl Rahul more then half of your indian test Team Change My Mind.
 
Sin Nombre said:
Smith in those 2 years was the best test batsman in a generation. Not the strongest argument.


Babar >>> KL as things stand ; Indian fans need to accept the former's talent and consistency.

They have Shubman Gill who will likely be better than both so there is no need to feel insecure.
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Yeh And Saud Shakeel Is Going To Overshadow Shubham And Shaw
So No Need To Feel Bitter Next Time
 
Mean&Green said:
lol just throw the stats into orbit and make your own hypothetical scenarios well done 👍
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Not the hypothetical scenario. That's the reality. There's a reason why Rahul is one of the only few players who plays all three formats for India.
 
Mujtaba2900 said:
According to your logic Shahid Afridi Was Better Test Player Then Rohit Sharma.Shikar Dhawan Rehane Ashwin murali Vijay
Kl Rahul more then half of your indian test Team Change My Mind.
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Nah because i have the common sense to understand for how many matches all of them have played in comparison to Dhahid Afridi and in how much percentage of games Shahid Afridi sucked.

It tells you quite a lot aout you when you compare a player who retired years ago with players playing today, giving good performances than shahid Afridi could ever give in his life.

Also all of those players have shown with their performances in test that Shahid Afridi shouldn't be mentioned in the same name as them.
 
Hyperion66 said:
I am not a stats or spreadsheet guy, I speak from memory but I can bet my house and say that Sachin has a higher career strike rate from 90-100 than most of his peers.

It takes an incredible amount delusion to even mention Babar in the same sentence with SRT.
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Nobody is mentioning both in the same bracket but if you dont rate one player because he slows down nearing a 100 then you must do the same for the other, it doesnt matter if one is great and other is club level. Anyway It obvious you are biased.
 
Pakhs said:
Nobody is mentioning both in the same bracket but if you dont rate one player because he slows down nearing a 100 then you must do the same for the other, it doesnt matter if one is great and other is club level. Anyway It obvious you are biased.
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Of course I am biased, we are all biased in some way or the other, but that is not the point. As I said I speak from memory, if you could show me any stat that proves SRT slowing down radically in his nineties all throughout his career I will admit my mistake right away and never debate on this topic ever again.
 
Balthazar said:
Not the hypothetical scenario. That's the reality. There's a reason why Rahul is one of the only few players who plays all three formats for India.
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Reality is babar is no 1 t20 batsman and the world knows that and you are ranking him above some kl Rahul who is like 5 ranks below him nice fantasy reality of yours.
 
Babar Azam is twice the batsman that KL Rahul is at the moment. Babar plays like a pro and KL for the most part still plays like a deer caught in headlights. He is unsure of his off stump and gets cleaned up due to poor technique.

The only thing KL got over Babar is the power game. KL can change gears very quickly when he settles down. But that does not happen very often. He is usually dismissed before he crosses 20.
 
Lol Babar is ahead and KL doesn't come close as of now.. Talent apart if KL starts performing as per his capabilities then we will talk..

For now the thread holds no merit and Babar is clear winner. Let's hope KL has a brilliant WC and helps India win which will make this thread lively.
 
big_gamer007 said:
Lol Babar is ahead and KL doesn't come close as of now.. Talent apart if KL starts performing as per his capabilities then we will talk..

For now the thread holds no merit and Babar is clear winner. Let's hope KL has a brilliant WC and helps India win which will make this thread lively.
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Agree. KL Rahul got one lucky chance thanks to Rayudu. He was not even in the consideration. Then they decided to select KL Rahul under the pretense of back up opener. I knew all along they were going to play KL Rahul at 4. If Rahul blows this one up there are so many guys waiting in line to take his spot. He better make it count. First he has to establish himself to an extent that he becomes an automatic pick before being compared with other players. He has some positives. Hope he shows some consistency.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Agree. KL Rahul got one lucky chance thanks to Rayudu. He was not even in the consideration. Then they decided to select KL Rahul under the pretense of back up opener. I knew all along they were going to play KL Rahul at 4. If Rahul blows this one up there are so many guys waiting in line to take his spot. He better make it count. First he has to establish himself to an extent that he becomes an automatic pick before being compared with other players. He has some positives. Hope he shows some consistency.
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If he blows this chance, I just hope he never makes it back to the ODI team. We cannot keep denying opportunities for young players by giving excessive chances to people who keep failing for years in the name of talent. Let Rohit be the last. We were lucky with him but that does not mean we do it for everyone.
 
Rahul has underperformed except once in a test in dharamsala where he played the best knock after veeru in Adelaide’s as an opener in last 20 years by an indian opener .

However - his natural position looks like no 4 and not no 1. Shaw waits to be there after fat Rohit is discarded .

Wrt Babar Azam - he has proven himself and is in Dhawan class in odi ( not Kohli ) and in tests he is in top 6 ...

This wc though is likely going to be Rahuls cup
 
If Rahul comes in after the 10 over mark I expect him to destroy a few bowling line-ups. He is good against spin and pace but struggles against swing. That is why it is so crucial for the top 3 to negotiate the first 10 overs.
 
Let Rahul at least perform consistently before he can be compared to Babar. Talent and potential means nothing if not converted into performances.
 
docteurmanish said:
Rahul has underperformed except once in a test in dharamsala where he played the best knock after veeru in Adelaide’s as an opener in last 20 years by an indian opener .

However - his natural position looks like no 4 and not no 1. Shaw waits to be there after fat Rohit is discarded .

Wrt Babar Azam - he has proven himself and is in Dhawan class in odi ( not Kohli ) and in tests he is in top 6 ...

This wc though is likely going to be Rahuls cup
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Based on what exactly?
 
After the warmup match against BD where he score 100 at not 4... KL Rahul left his calling card at No.4.
 
I do think rahul is good batsmen but the amount of disrespect shown to babar azam in this thread due to useless hundred of rahul in warmup is appalling.

Today Rohit sharma was doing fantastic job realising pressure from rahul yet he failed to capitalize. The amount of hype is around rahul he should do better than this
 
saeed5646 said:
I do think rahul is good batsmen but the amount of disrespect shown to babar azam in this thread due to useless hundred of rahul in warmup is appalling.

Today Rohit sharma was doing fantastic job realising pressure from rahul yet he failed to capitalize. The amount of hype is around rahul he should do better than this
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Like I posted before, this thread should not exist. Rahul is several years older than babar and yet still plays like a prospect.
 
barah_admi said:
Like I posted before, this thread should not exist. Rahul is several years older than babar and yet still plays like a prospect.
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I don't know why indian fans hyping him that much he is not that special.india have high standard batting talent they can produce better than him.

He is caught between aggressive and defensive cricket which is affecting him mentally just like what it did to umar akmal
 
Rahul failed to capitalise again. Soon his spot will be taken up by new blood. He needs to have a good world cup else we need to groom pant, Gill, Agarwal, Shaw etc by playing them in useless bilaterals after WC so they gain experience
 
TNAmarkFromIndia said:
Because he's scored big runs in IPL at a good strike rate. Before that, he scored big runs in first class cricket.
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He is struggling in odis from some time also his test average have dropped significantly .he made a good start to international career but now turning into another Robin uthappa
 
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