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Ball-tampering: Steve Smith suspended for a Test, Cameron Bancroft handed 3 demerit pts [Update#677]

I think Afridi got the same. Seems allright. But yea Cricket Australia will not tolerate this and he has probably lost his captaincy.

Some people have issues differentiating between fixing and ball tempering, but this is the max for breaking the rules unlike fixing which goes beyond winning. If people treated it the same half of the cricketers would have been banned for something they did in the heat of the moment trying to win a game.

But yea this will taint CA and Smith forever. Its effect will be longer than the one game ban he received.
 
[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] Why is there no run penalty ? I think in 2006 Pak received one at the Oval, also not sure if this punishment is adequate given the response to past offences
 
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backfootpunch said:
Rabada got 2 tests (prior to it being overturned) for rubbing shoulders and Smith gets 1 test for blatant cheating. ICC are very inconsistent or is it selective bias towards some?
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Its accumulation of demerit points that matter. Rabada has been a serial offender. We can still agree that ICC needs more consistency in handing out demerit points. Bangladesh players deserved severe bans after their temper tantrums in Sri Lanka.
 
shaz619 said:
[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] Why is there no run penalty ? I think in 2006 Pak received one at the Oval, also not sure if this punishment is adequate given the response to past offences
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run penalty needs to be given on the spot by on field umpires. Runs cannot be added or subtracted as arrears in a game.
 
Wonderwoman said:
Its accumulation of demerit points that matter. Rabada has been a serial offender. We can still agree that ICC needs more consistency in handing out demerit points. Bangladesh players deserved severe bans after their temper tantrums in Sri Lanka.
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That is true and I remember his misdemeanours in the England tour with Stokes but ball tampering with sandpaper is far worse than Rabada has accumulated in his short career so far.
 
Overreaction by CA. Everyone does ball tampering but only those caught get punished. This is why Wasim Akram said ball tampering should be allowed since fielders will find one way or another to change condition of the ball.
 
shaz619 said:
Bit weird they haven't enforced it as of yet
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The umpires could have done only at the time they talked to Bancroft but they were fooled. If you start handing out penalties in retrospect, then teams will start demanding correction for incorrect umpiring decisions after the game. It will distort the results greatly.
 
backfootpunch said:
That is true and I remember his misdemeanours in the England tour with Stokes but ball tampering with sandpaper is far worse than Rabada has accumulated in his short career so far.
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To be fair Bancroft has gotten what appears to be the standard ball tampering punishment (same as Philander a fews back).
He probably avoided suspension because it was Smith who told him to cheat.

If the ICC did choose to suspend him I wouldn't have had any complaints though.
 
navin said:
People here are over exaggerating it. It is just another brain fade from Smith & co.
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To the contrary, add this and the "brainfade" to a list of disingenuous planned cheating stints Lehmann and Smith have conducted.
 
shaz619 said:
[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] Why is there no run penalty ? I think in 2006 Pak received one at the Oval, also not sure if this punishment is adequate given the response to past offences
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I mentioned exactly this in another thread. Darrell Hair couldn't wait to dock us penalty runs at The Oval in 2006 based on zero evidence and not a single TV clip, whereas here the match officials not only had access to definitive video evidence but were blatantly lied to, but didn't dock any runs.
 
I can understand that you want to win the game badly for your country, but it's stupid to do that with these many cameras around.

Whatever one thinks about tempering (even I think it shouldn't be that big of a deal to a limit) you got to respect the law. So he deserved what he got.
 
Markhor said:
I mentioned exactly this in another thread. Darrell Hair couldn't wait to dock us penalty runs at The Oval in 2006 based on zero evidence and not a single TV clip, whereas here the match officials not only had access to definitive video evidence but were blatantly lied to, but didn't dock any runs.
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As I have said docking of runs need to happen on the spot not in retrospect. Do you think Maradona should be red carded and goal cancelled for his hand of God and the next legal goal also ruled out. ?
 
hahahahahahahahaha

Same punishment as being behind the over rate for a couple of games :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))
 
jagatk said:
Do you know how to embed the tweet directly into the post rather than just posting the link for it, I am finding myself technologically challenged in this aspect. It would be great if mods could edit the post for the same.
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I would like to know that too.
 
Goes to show you can get away with anything as long as your skin is white
 
Only one test....this ball tempering cheat never ends if the punishment is not harsh..atleast 4 test matches ban shuld be done...
 
Markhor said:
I mentioned exactly this in another thread. Darrell Hair couldn't wait to dock us penalty runs at The Oval in 2006 based on zero evidence and not a single TV clip, whereas here the match officials not only had access to definitive video evidence but were blatantly lied to, but didn't dock any runs.
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There needs to be some consistency across the board, I don't think it should entirely be left to the on field umpires to hand out the run penalty because after such concrete evidence common sense should prevail, having reviewed the footage they should have delivered a sterner punishment.
 
Seeing as though I expected at least a delayed 5-point-penalty today, I'm surprised nothing has been mentioned of it.
 
Wonderwoman said:
There is no provision for a delayed 5 point penalty in cricket rule book and rightly so.
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No, I expected it to be delayed because they didn't penalise Australia on the spot yesterday. They didn't do so again hence why some are asking why...?!
 
Sherlock said:
No, I expected it to be delayed because they didn't penalise Australia on the spot yesterday. They didn't do so again hence why some are asking why...?!
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As i said rules of cricket has no provision for delayed penalties in terms of runs, it will greatly distort the results. It needs to be then and there and by the on-field umpire.
 
Wonderwoman said:
As i said rules of cricket has no provision for delayed penalties in terms of runs, it will greatly distort the results. It needs to be then and there and by the on-field umpire.
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Provisions are there to be enacted by the umpires. If they can't exact the rules of the games [5 penalty points] to the batting side [SA] then there should be a provision where they can tinker the ruling so the right conclusion is made.

To not even be given the penalty-ruling was sheer idiocy.
 
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While I think this is a disgusting act, we should not take the moral high ground.

Our swing legends have all tampered with the ball, we have 2 cheats who chucked us to many match wins and series wins, but no one talks about that unsurprisingly...
 
CricFan2012 said:
While I think this is a disgusting act, we should not take the moral high ground.

Our swing legends have all tampered with the ball, we have 2 cheats who chucked us to many match wins and series wins, but no one talks about that unsurprisingly...
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No, you're right. No-one talks about our players ever cheating/tampering etc...

:facepalm:

You really need to read the threads that have been created yesterday and even in this thread. We've all talked about it. No-one hides their heads in the sand or plugs their ears.

To even mention this subject doesn't mean we shouldn't. That's simply idiotic.
 
As per CI, Smith and Warner could face lifebans from CA.

I think that is a bit too harsh because what they committed, which by no means a minor offense, isn't something that warrants a life ban. And the reality is, I am sure a lot of teams have tried doing the same thing as Australia.

On the other hand, I think they deserve a greater punishment than that recieved from ICC but a life-ban would be really harsh. Cricket can ill afford to lose out on Smithy and Warner
 
Executioner said:
As per CI, Smith and Warner could face lifebans from CA.

I think that is a bit too harsh because what they committed, which by no means a minor offense, isn't something that warrants a life ban. And the reality is, I am sure a lot of teams have tried doing the same thing as Australia.

On the other hand, I think they deserve a greater punishment than that recieved from ICC but a life-ban would be really harsh. Cricket can ill afford to lose out on Smithy and Warner
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They embarrassed their nation in front of the whole world, unlike some countries, Australia might actually care about the image they project onto the world, maybe the australian board doesn't want cheats representing australia, good decision if it happens, but I doubt Australia would go that far
 
Executioner said:
As per CI, Smith and Warner could face lifebans from CA.

I think that is a bit too harsh because what they committed, which by no means a minor offense, isn't something that warrants a life ban. And the reality is, I am sure a lot of teams have tried doing the same thing as Australia.

On the other hand, I think they deserve a greater punishment than that recieved from ICC but a life-ban would be really harsh. Cricket can ill afford to lose out on Smithy and Warner
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May be 4 tests ban or 6 months ban from all forms of cricket including T20 leagues should be enough, life ban is too much :smith :warner
 
OK. So the Aussies have now been caught out. Considering how they are often seen as being the ultimate professionals (where cricket is concerned), one wonders how often their "methodical and professional approach" has enabled them to get away with ball tampering in the past. It's usually those that you're least likely to suspect (eg Tendulkar, Smith) that are the ones most likely to get away with it .... time after time .... until eventually caught (if at all!).
 
Yossarian said:
OK. So the Aussies have now been caught out. Considering how they are often seen as being the ultimate professionals (where cricket is concerned), one wonders how often their "methodical and professional approach" has enabled them to get away with ball tampering in the past. It's usually those that you're least likely to suspect (eg Tendulkar, Smith) that are the ones most likely to get away with it .... time after time .... until eventually caught (if at all!).
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No matter how many times you write it, it won't change the fact that Tendulkar was never found guilty of ball tampering. Btw Smith was the most likely suspect, he's been a repeat offender his whole career, so you are wrong on two counts
 
WildSwing said:
No matter how many times you write it, it won't change the fact that Tendulkar was never found guilty of ball tampering. Btw Smith was the most likely suspect, he's been a repeat offender his whole career, so you are wrong on two counts
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Well there you are, proves my point! :))
 
Quality bat, will probably want to put all this nonsense behind him.

I've always said there are no Holly cows, it's futile to try and hold a moral high ground. All teams tamper with the ball, not as blatant as Bancroft but they definitely tamper with it.

There only thing that will hurt Smith's reputation is that he put a youngster in an untenable positions instead of doing his own dirty work. As such he must rightfully resign as the leader of the side. Lehman will probably step aside after the series as well.

But we have to credit Smith in how he took responsibility as well. I've seen many senior players refuse to take responsibility for the team. A team would lose 10 games on the trot, absolutely nothing. Then achieves a meaningless milestone and he's the first to jump in front of the media. Got to take the good with the bad.

I commend Smith for what he did, yes he must serve a suspension but this will have zero impact on his reputation as a player. Storm in a tea cup.
 
Will be really sad if he gets a life ban or something, way too harsh. 1 year is enough IMO.
 
Syed1 said:
Goes to show you can get away with anything as long as your skin is white
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Didn't do anything worthy of being punished more than he has already. 1 match ban might even be too harsh. Smith is a legend averaging 60+, lets not forget. He's not playing for a minnow team.
 
lol people overreacting really. one year/6 month ban? really? there's some fielder's claiming catches even though he knows he grounded it, or a batsman refuse to walk after nicking it, so they're too punishable, right?
 
Smbhayi said:
lol people overreacting really. one year/6 month ban? really? there's some fielder's claiming catches even though he knows he grounded it, or a batsman refuse to walk after nicking it, so they're too punishable, right?
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The problem for Smith and co wasn't the ICC bans, it was/is the CA bans, that will no doubt be an example to all.
 
Steve Smith headed home as CA say 'sorry'

Under-fire Australian captain Steve Smith is reportedly headed back home as Cricket Australia boss James Sutherland desperately tries to win back the nation.

Sutherland sent out a heartfelt apology to the media and cricket-loving public late last night following the cheating scandal that emerged on Sunday following day three of the third Test against South Africa.

Smith and vice-captain David Warner stood down from their roles for the remainder of the series, but still played out the final day in Cape Town where they were soundly beaten by the Proteas by 322 runs.

To our Australian Cricket Fans, " Sutherland said.
"We are sorry.
"This behaviour calls into question the integrity of the team and Cricket Australia.

"Cricket Australia and Australian cricket fans expect high standards from cricketers representing our country, and on this occasion these standards have not been met.

"We know how you feel and have heard your feedback loud and clear. We share your anger and disappointment.

"As you would be aware, we have launched an immediate investigation into what transpired in Cape Town, and our Head of Integrity is travelling to South Africa as we speak.

"All Australians, like us, want answers and we will keep you updated on our findings, as a matter of urgency."

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/cricket/smith-headed-home-as-ca-say-sorry/ar-BBKGMiu?ocid=spartanntp
 
ads101 said:
Will be really sad if he gets a life ban or something, way too harsh. 1 year is enough IMO.
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He won't be getting a life ban, this seems like a leak to gauge reactions in Australia. If people agree then the punishment will be severe might even be a 6 month or 1 year ban with whole leadership group most likely suffering. If the consensus is against it then only smith and Bancroft will suffer a bit most likely to miss a series or 2 atmost.
 
It is good to remember 2 things before criticizing Smith:

1) Ball tampering is widespread and has only declined in recent times due to the fear of being caught on TV.

2) Smith took responsibility rather than trying to throw the junior player under the bus.

I hope Smith is able to continue his great career after serving an appropriate punishment.
 
From Cricket Australia:

Multiple media reports that suggest players have departed South Africa for home ports are inaccurate.

At this stage, players will remain in South Africa to assist CA with inquiries.

Any outcomes from that process will be communicated in due course.
 
Really hilarious to see the way everybody is ganging up on Smith for such a small crime.

The holier than thou attitude that different former Australian players r showing on media is even more hilarious.

Just watched a video where M.Clarke was talking about this incident who was literally crying while talking to the host. I was like, what the hell is wrong with u dude, its just a simple ball tempering, nothing else. Stop being melodramatic.
 
Napa said:
It is good to remember 2 things before criticizing Smith:

1) Ball tampering is widespread and has only declined in recent times due to the fear of being caught on TV.

2) Smith took responsibility rather than trying to throw the junior player under the bus.

I hope Smith is able to continue his great career after serving an appropriate punishment.
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1. With so much planning especially with foreign objects and getting junior members to do it, this isn't common.

2. He was dead and buried the minute the walkie talkie message arrived, even if he washed his hands off this, he couldn't have remained captain for long. No one likes a leader who throws juniors under the bus when it is their fault.

Also he didn't take any responsibility he just passed the buck by including the leadership group, he didn't need to mention them but he did.
 
Got to appreciate the fact that Smith didn't try to vindicate his actions by bringing in the puerile 'others do it as well' excuse.

And before going all sanctimonious, we shouldn't forget that Afridi was slotted right back into the team after serving the ban handed to him by ICC and was reappointed as captain one match later. No action from the board, no public furore...
 
[MENTION=132373]Convict[/MENTION]

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Need to move forward from this. Smith has lost the leadership and a 3-4 test match ban should be enough.

Bancroft and Warner should also be banned for final test in Jburg.

This is where it should all be ended up. No need for too much of melodrama.
 
Cricket Australia has provided the following update in relation to the Australian Men’s Cricket Team and next steps prior to the Fourth Test starting on Friday in Johannesburg.

Cricket Australia CEO, James Sutherland said:

“Iain Roy and Pat Howard arrive in Cape Town this morning local time, and Iain will immediately conduct his inquiries around the specifics of the ball tampering incident.

“I am travelling to Johannesburg this evening and will arrive Tuesday morning local time to meet Iain to understand the findings of the investigation to that point, and to determine recommended outcomes.

“We know Australians want answers and we will keep you updated on our findings and next steps, as a matter of urgency,” concluded Mr Sutherland.

Cricket Australia Chairman, David Peever said:

“The Cricket Australia Board has been fully updated on the issue and supports James travelling to South Africa to manage the response to the investigation currently underway.

“We expect to be able to fully update the Australian public on the findings on Wednesday morning (Tuesday evening in Johannesburg).”

“We understand that everyone wants answers, but we must follow our due diligence before any further decisions are made,” concluded Mr Peever.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">wow <a href="https://twitter.com/ICC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ICC</a> wow. Great treatment nd FairPlay. No ban for Bancroft with all the evidences whereas 6 of us were banned for excessive appealing in South Africa 2001 without any evidence and Remember Sydney 2008? Not found guilty and banned for 3 matches.different people different rules</p>— Harbhajan Turbanator (@harbhajan_singh) <a href="https://twitter.com/harbhajan_singh/status/977911377447677953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25 March 2018</a></blockquote>
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Quite surprised by the reaction in Oz tbh. Not sure what sort of rock the Aussie public have been living under all these years to think that this is anywhere close to being the worst stunt Aus cricketers have pulled over the years. If anything when it comes to fair play this current lot have been far better in general I would reckon. Ban for a few matches and hand out a hefty fine and move on it's not the end of the world. On another note Smithy needs to hire a new advisor. Not exactly sure wth he was trying to achieve during that press-conference. Fail whale.
 
I mean how many times have SA been caught redhanded in recent times doing all sorts and they have gotten away with it scot-free each time. CSA have even gone as far as to threaten broadcasters to not release the footage. Now that's taking it to another level.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">wow <a href="https://twitter.com/ICC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ICC</a> wow. Great treatment nd FairPlay. No ban for Bancroft with all the evidences whereas 6 of us were banned for excessive appealing in South Africa 2001 without any evidence and Remember Sydney 2008? Not found guilty and banned for 3 matches.different people different rules</p>— Harbhajan Turbanator (@harbhajan_singh) <a href="https://twitter.com/harbhajan_singh/status/977911377447677953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25 March 2018</a></blockquote>
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Bhajji not holding back at all :junaid
 
Napa said:
It is good to remember 2 things before criticizing Smith:

1) Ball tampering is widespread and has only declined in recent times due to the fear of being caught on TV.

2) Smith took responsibility rather than trying to throw the junior player under the bus.

I hope Smith is able to continue his great career after serving an appropriate punishment.
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Sensible post.

There was no smoking gun implicating Smith and while his admission may be naive, he could have easily thrown his junior teammate under the bus and the scale of the scandal would have been 10% of what it is now
 
shaz619 said:
[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] Why is there no run penalty ? I think in 2006 Pak received one at the Oval, also not sure if this punishment is adequate given the response to past offences
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umpires didnt catch the tampering. broadcaster did.

In 2006, Hair was the one who pointed out the apparent tampering
 
I think Lehmann will be sacked and Smith will be removed from captaincy after serving a short ban from CA.Warner will also be removed from VC position.
 
The issue here is bigger than simple ball tampering, people are failing to understand the gravity of the issue. The Aussie team was involved in systematic cheating, they sat down in the dressing room and hatched a plan to cheat. Teams have tampered the ball in the past too but no one has been caught so blatantly like this aussie team, was just watching an aussie media video where the australian public was asked for their opinion on this incident and the people didn't have any kind words for smith, smith embarrassed the australian nation in front of the whole world.

Smith is facing a lot of heat and backslash from his own fans and media, kids giving him the finger in the stadium, he's been called a cheat in every news headline, his reputation has taken a big hit and he'll never captain australia again that's for certain and this incident will always be a big black mark on his career
 
Life ban will be very very harsh.

Removal from captaincy with may be a 3-4 match ban is enough. But he needs to come clean regarding when it started, how long have they been doing it and what all they have done.

But Lehmann needs to be sacked and never be allowed near the Aussie team ever again.
 
WildSwing said:
The issue here is bigger than simple ball tampering, people are failing to understand the gravity of the issue. The Aussie team was involved in systematic cheating, they sat down in the dressing room and hatched a plan to cheat. Teams have tampered the ball in the past too but no one has been caught so blatantly like this aussie team, was just watching an aussie media video where the australian public was asked for their opinion on this incident and the people didn't have any kind words for smith, smith embarrassed the australian nation in front of the whole world.

Smith is facing a lot of heat and backslash from his own fans and media, kids giving him the finger in the stadium, he's been called a cheat in every news headline, his reputation has taken a big hit and he'll never captain australia again that's for certain and this incident will always be a big black mark on his career
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This!
Yes the evidence against previous ball tamperers merely points to them doing it at an individual capacity (even if that may not be true). Here there is admission of organized ball tampering at a team level

However he is too good and too big a player to not emerge from this. Smith has a long career left and I personally always enjoyed his unorthodox batting
 
David Warner at heart of ball-tampering scandal

Cape Town: David Warner is emerging as the central character in Australian cricket's ball-tampering crisis and the deposed vice-captain will not be allowed to play in the fourth Test against South Africa starting on Johannesburg on Friday.

Cricket Australia chief executive James Sutherland is now on his way to South Africa to deal with the escalating crisis and will join the organisation's head of integrity, Iain Roy, and the executive general manager of team performance, Pat Howard, who arrived in Cape Town on Monday morning local time here.

Roy was due to begin interviewing players about the events of Saturday at Newlands immediately and produce a report for Sutherland and the CA board within 48 hours.
"Iain will immediately conduct his inquiries around the specifics of the ball tampering incident," Sutherland said.

“I am travelling to Johannesburg this evening and will arrive Tuesday morning local time to meet Iain to understand the findings of the investigation to that point, and to determine recommended outcomes.
“We know Australians want answers and we will keep you updated on our findings and next steps, as a matter of urgency."

There has been a national outcry about Cameron Bancroft's use of yellow tape to try and alter the condition of the ball on the third day of the third Test against South Africa and captain Steve Smith's admission that they had deliberately plotted to cheat during the lunch break that day.
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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke...f-ball-tampering-scandal-20180326-p4z6d3.html
 
Slog said:
Sensible post.

There was no smoking gun implicating Smith and while his admission may be naive, he could have easily thrown his junior teammate under the bus and the scale of the scandal would have been 10% of what it is now
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and while all this is correct you still have to take everything else into account...

I.e all this headbutting the line rubbish, how you never cross it and the DRS issues of 2017.

The fact that most Aussies fans want their players to play hard, but by the rules, is precisely why there is a
a masssive backlash in Australia itself...
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In my uneducated opinion, I dare say there was never a senior players meeting to discuss cheating - Smith made that up to take the heat of a young Cameron Bancroft not realising the outrage that would follow.</p>— Moises Henriques (@Mozzie21) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mozzie21/status/978172814166450177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Really surprised by the whole reaction to this to be honest.

Its been said before by others, but I will say it again nonetheless. All teams have their own methods to try and 'work' on the ball. This is done as a collective. Everyone knows who is meant to look after the ball.

Australia just got caught. That is all.

Sandpaper as a foreign substance...how is that any different from England and Murray Mints? Just as foreign to the field as sandpaper. England actually celebrate the fact their success with it, and no where do they hide that it was a collective and conscious effort by the team to alter the ball and achieve reverse swing.

Faf got caught. Afridi. Dravid. The list goes on.

No where else has there been such a campaign to get further justice than what is prescribed by the ICC. I cant quite understand how its got this far.

Australia are not the most likeable bunch, so yes, I can believe that we all love it when they are caught up in a controversy like this one. But to clamor for life bans...really?
 
Warner and Smith facing one year bans

Is what was reported in the Herald Sun which is the biggest newspaper in Melbourne.

Unfortunately it is behind a paywall so I can't link it.
 
Don't shoot me but, I kinda feel for Smith. I hope the ban isn't as serious as it's being reported. I get they need to make an example of the players but banning them for a year [plus?] will be ridiculous.
 
Qantas 'very disappointed' by Australian cricket ball-tampering

The boss of a major sponsor of the Australian cricket team has told the BBC he is "is very disappointed" by the ball-tampering controversy.

Alan Joyce, the head of Australian airline Qantas, said he wanted the authorities to urgently complete the inquiry and take "appropriate action".

Qantas said it was "in discussions" with Cricket Australia.

Australian captain Steve Smith has said he knew of plot to tamper with the ball in a match against South Africa.

He has been banned for one match and fined his entire match fee by cricket's world governing body for his part in the incident.

Smith said the team's "leadership group" had a plan, carried out by Cameron Bancroft, to tamper with the ball to "get an advantage".

Mr Joyce told the BBC's Today programme said: "We are very disappointed. Australia is all about 'fair go', and I think all Australians are very disappointed with what's happened with the cricket team."

"We've let them know that we want them [the authorities] to urgently complete the investigation and take the appropriate action."

Qantas, whose logo is prominent on the Australian team's shirts, said in a statement: "We are in discussions with Cricket Australia as this issue unfolds."

Other sponsors also expressed their dismay.

Weetbix-maker Sanitarium and brewer Lion, which makes XXXX, said in statements they were considering their relationship with the national team.

Weetbix, whose relationship is particularly close as Steve Smith is a brand ambassador for it, said: "Certainly it's under review as the actions taken by the team in South Africa don't align with our own values - Sanitarium does not condone cheating in sport."

Cricket Australia's latest financial statement show it earned 338.4m Australian dollars (£184.7m) in media, sponsorship and spectator fees.

Cricket Australia said it would provide an update on the scandal by Tuesday.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43539688

This is not looking good for team Australia/Smith.
 
Zahid87 said:
Really surprised by the whole reaction to this to be honest.

Its been said before by others, but I will say it again nonetheless. All teams have their own methods to try and 'work' on the ball. This is done as a collective. Everyone knows who is meant to look after the ball.

Australia just got caught. That is all.

Sandpaper as a foreign substance...how is that any different from England and Murray Mints? Just as foreign to the field as sandpaper. England actually celebrate the fact their success with it, and no where do they hide that it was a collective and conscious effort by the team to alter the ball and achieve reverse swing.

Faf got caught. Afridi. Dravid. The list goes on.

No where else has there been such a campaign to get further justice than what is prescribed by the ICC. I cant quite understand how its got this far.

Australia are not the most likeable bunch, so yes, I can believe that we all love it when they are caught up in a controversy like this one. But to clamor for life bans...really?
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The ball tampering is not the issue. The systematic planning with intent to cheat by the Australian team and senior management is the issue.
 
UN talkz said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In my uneducated opinion, I dare say there was never a senior players meeting to discuss cheating - Smith made that up to take the heat of a young Cameron Bancroft not realising the outrage that would follow.</p>— Moises Henriques (@Mozzie21) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mozzie21/status/978172814166450177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Which makes Smith lier, who lied in presser in front of millions !
 
The fact Warner has been suspended tells us that he was part of the *Leadership group*.

So Smith was telling the truth.
 
R3verse Swing said:
The fact Warner has been suspended tells us that he was part of the *Leadership group*.

So Smith was telling the truth.
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Story currently going around is that it was Warner's idea and he convinced Smith.
 
Talks about handing out life bans...

A bit too harsh I recon. But I think it would not be harsh to ban Warner for life, the guy is just absolute trouble!
 
Convict said:
Story currently going around is that it was Warner's idea and he convinced Smith.
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Seems logical.

Though to paraphrase Broad's comments, if Australia have been bowling so well of late, why bother cheating now? Perhaps because of Warner-gate - 2nd Test?
 
Guys please post the source if u are posting article, dont post without links of actual article
 
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