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Balochistan standoff ends after all Jaffar Express hostages rescued [Update@ Post#579]

Red-Indian said:
It's very tough to be sympathetic to the Balochi tribal fighters. Sure they want freedom from Pakistan but just like the Kurds in Turkey, Hamas in Palestine, Basques in Spain and to an extent, even the old Northern Irish Catholics, they only want it to maintain their legacy of control over the populace. They ride on genuine grievances and dicsconnectedness of the local populace and use terror on innocents as a weapon.

I think India's making the same mistake by funding them as the Americans did with the Taliban. Sure in the short term, it's easy to rationalize "enemy of my enemy is my friend." In the long term though, this has the potential to come back to bite us. Even today, from what I read, Indian agents have to pretend to be Iranians, Arabs etc. in order to get the rank and file Balochis to accept our funding. The underlying hate for India (essentially any outsider) is still there.
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I would definitely be more comfortable with Punjabi dominated army of Pakistan having nukes rather than TTP or other radical groups getting hold of them.

The army generals of Pak have a lot to lose unlike some of these terrorists who are ready to kill or die especially with a religious mandate.
 
JaDed said:
Like you condemned the Russian invasion? Most Indians are definitely condemning this way more than you condemned Russia.

BLA are terrorists and what Russians?
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He is biggest hypocrite on this forums so better to ignore him :kp
 
Can mods just lock this thread or regulate it.

Should peoples death be trolled around here? And should BLA statements be posted here?
 
Major said:
Can mods just lock this thread or regulate it.

Should peoples death be trolled around here? And should BLA statements be posted here?
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Agree.

It is mindboggling they are doing this on this thread. It is disrespectful toward all the families who lost their loved ones.

Then again, decency is not something you can expect from the Indians generally.
 
sweep_shot said:
Agree.

It is mindboggling they are doing this on this thread. It is disrespectful toward all the families who lost their loved ones.

Then again, decency is not something you can expect from the Indians generally.
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Like if these guys had lost ones and we start posting and use laughing and trollinng emojis how would they feel?
 
Major said:
Like if these guys had lost ones and we start posting and use laughing and trollinng emojis how would they feel?
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They are full of hubris and haughtiness. Maybe it will cause their downfall at some point.

In human history, there were many haughty ethnic groups like this. They perished. Indians should learn from history.
 
Jaffar Express attack: FIA register cases for spreading fake news

The Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) has registered cases against three individuals for spreading fake news about the Jaffar Express attack, ARY News reported.

Three cases were registered against Ahmad Noorani, Shafiq Ahmad Advocate, and Aina Durkhanai under the PECA Act by FIA Cyber Crime Islamabad.

According to the FIRs, the accused have spread anti-state propaganda online, inciting hatred against national institutions following the attack. They used their verified social media accounts to promote a banned organization and create public uncertainty.

The FIA is investigating further to identify additional accounts involved in spreading malicious propaganda, the FIA spokesperson said.



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Jaffar Express attack: FIA register cases for spreading fake news

ISLAMABAD: The Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) has registered cases against three individuals for spreading fake news about the Jaffar Express attack,
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Cpt. Rishwat said:
I don't know...why would you? :unsure:

Except the rest of your post is a carefully constructed defence of the terrorists despite the crocodile tears, and a reinforcement of India's anti-Pakistan stance despite your claims it isn't. You can claim that an unstable Pakistan is in no one's interests, but the truth is, Indian govt actions do not align with this. So either you are lying or your govt is.
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Acknowledging the plight of the Baloch people or pointing out that Pakistan actively backed the Taliban’s takeover of Afghanistan isn’t defending terrorism or being anti Pakistan. It’s just stating reality. When a state sponsors militant groups to seize power by force, it sets a dangerous precedent. So if the BLA looks across the border and sees that as a model for success, how can you blame them alone? Selective outrage isn’t a good look you know.

Since we’ve come this far, let me spill some beans on the hijack rescue as well. Anyone with a fair understanding of the landscape, the modus operandi, and how military operations work globally would see that the army was likely nowhere near the BLA’s hijack hideout when they claimed they were. From what I’ve gathered, there are multiple kilometre long tunnels along the ML 3 that are difficult to access by land or air. Not criticising your army for its reporting, most armies do the same. My only gripe is that they don’t seem to have done much to negotiate and try to save the lives of their own men, whose lives are just as valuable as anyone else’s. There’s this unfortunate mentality on both sides of the border that soldiers are meant to die smh.

What is the point of continuing this exchange when you’re not refuting my points but resort to personal attacks. I never intended to write this much on the topic anyway. You have a good day.
 
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Govt announces Rs.5.2 million, jobs to families of Jaffer Express attack victims​


The government has announced compensation of Rs. 5.2 million for each family of those killed in the Jaffer Express attack, along with jobs for their children in the railway department.

Railways Minister Hanif Abbasi on Thursday accused the opposition Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) and Indian entities of targeting the military in the aftermath of the Jaffer Express attack while ignoring political leaders.

Addressing a press conference at the Railways Headquarters in Lahore, Abbasi alleged that PTI was receiving “millions, even billions” to advance its narrative. He announced financial compensation of Rs. 5.2 million for the families of those killed in the Quetta attack and pledged government jobs for their children.

Abbasi commended Pakistan’s armed forces for their swift rescue operation following the train attack, saying, “Commandos prevented suicide bombers from detonating inside the train.” He warned that terrorism posed a growing threat to Pakistan’s stability, with domestic facilitators aiding attacks.

He linked the attack to broader geopolitical issues, alleging that India was trying to destabilize Pakistan, particularly the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). “Pakistan, as the first nuclear-armed Islamic country, remains a thorn in the world’s eye,” he said.

Abbasi urged political opponents to set aside differences and unite for national security. “Now is the time to come together on one platform,” he said, stressing that Pakistan was facing an existential threat.

The minister also criticized misinformation campaigns on social media, calling them a form of digital terrorism. He vowed that both online and armed threats would be countered.

Addressing Pakistan Railways' challenges, Abbasi outlined plans to upgrade infrastructure, improve security at railway stations, and revive stalled projects. He admitted that railway scanners and police resources were inadequate but pledged reforms, including cargo sector upgrades.

“We want a green Pakistan with a transparent railway system,” he said. “There will be no compromises.”

Abbasi also revealed that authorities were reclaiming encroached railway lands in Karachi, Faisalabad, Rawalpindi, and Sukkur, stressing that economic stability and national security were interlinked.

Source: The Express Tribune
 
The Bald Eagle said:

Govt announces Rs.5.2 million, jobs to families of Jaffer Express attack victims​


The government has announced compensation of Rs. 5.2 million for each family of those killed in the Jaffer Express attack, along with jobs for their children in the railway department.

Railways Minister Hanif Abbasi on Thursday accused the opposition Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) and Indian entities of targeting the military in the aftermath of the Jaffer Express attack while ignoring political leaders.

Addressing a press conference at the Railways Headquarters in Lahore, Abbasi alleged that PTI was receiving “millions, even billions” to advance its narrative. He announced financial compensation of Rs. 5.2 million for the families of those killed in the Quetta attack and pledged government jobs for their children.

Abbasi commended Pakistan’s armed forces for their swift rescue operation following the train attack, saying, “Commandos prevented suicide bombers from detonating inside the train.” He warned that terrorism posed a growing threat to Pakistan’s stability, with domestic facilitators aiding attacks.

He linked the attack to broader geopolitical issues, alleging that India was trying to destabilize Pakistan, particularly the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). “Pakistan, as the first nuclear-armed Islamic country, remains a thorn in the world’s eye,” he said.

Abbasi urged political opponents to set aside differences and unite for national security. “Now is the time to come together on one platform,” he said, stressing that Pakistan was facing an existential threat.

The minister also criticized misinformation campaigns on social media, calling them a form of digital terrorism. He vowed that both online and armed threats would be countered.

Addressing Pakistan Railways' challenges, Abbasi outlined plans to upgrade infrastructure, improve security at railway stations, and revive stalled projects. He admitted that railway scanners and police resources were inadequate but pledged reforms, including cargo sector upgrades.

“We want a green Pakistan with a transparent railway system,” he said. “There will be no compromises.”

Abbasi also revealed that authorities were reclaiming encroached railway lands in Karachi, Faisalabad, Rawalpindi, and Sukkur, stressing that economic stability and national security were interlinked.

Source: The Express Tribune
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It’s a good gesture by the government.

All those families ruined by this violence
 
I think this horror shows how important good leadership is for a country. The BLA are criminals that have attacked PK but the problem is that the PK army has no capital in either Balochistan or i PK Generally because of their own criminality. At times like these countries need leadership but who do we have? SS a guy with the personality of a slug, Naqvi a guy that sees $$$ in every event and the Generals, who no one believes or trusts because they treat the PK constitution with the same contempt as the BLA.
In any civilised country, the security agencies would have heads rolling but they are too busy making porn videos, killing and kidnapping PKs and controlling judges.
We aren't too far from Balochistan declaring independence and with KP to follow, are going to be left with Punjab so that the crooked witch could rule it. Because outside this I don't see any other plan. Release IK today, hold elections and get the people's reps to rule and bring people together.
 
Reports coming in that Pakistan has eliminated BLA’s chief. If true, thats even more swift than what Mossad pulled off. Brilliant stuff. Rules of the game have definitely changed :)
 
Slim said:
Reports coming in that Pakistan has eliminated BLA’s chief. If true, thats even more swift than what Mossad pulled off. Brilliant stuff. Rules of the game have definitely changed :)
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They have killed Bashir Zeb for the nth time. They make up stories of killing him after every major attack/embarrassment .

Here is the real news for you

Abu Qital is said to be the nephew of Hafiz Saeed.

Unknown men strike again

https://twitter.com/x/status/1901108589969748225

:kp
 
Slim said:
Why do you sound so cheerful?
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He's using BLA sources and then posting that as a more reliable source. This is basically equivalent to being hands in gloves with terrorists, to the extent that he can be.
 
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Another day yet another attack in Baluchistan by BLA on pakistan security forces.

www.dawn.com

5 FC personnel martyred, at least 12 injured in explosion near convoy in Balochistan’s Noshki

SHO says initial investigations suggest incident was a suicide attack.
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Five Frontier Corps (FC) personnel were martyred and at least 12 injured on Sunday when an explosion occurred near an FC convoy in Noshki on the national highway, officials said.

According to Noshki Station House Officer (SHO) Zafarullah Sumalani, initial investigations suggest the incident was a suicide attack.

SHO Sumalani said that evidence from the site of the attack suggested that a suicide attacker rammed an explosive-laden vehicle into the FC convoy.

The injured were being shifted to the FC Camp and Noshki Teaching Hospital, where an emergency has been imposed.

SHO Sumalani feared that the death toll and number of injured would rise since several of the injured in critical condition.

Balochistan Chief Minister Sarfraz Bugti condemned the attack and expressed sorrow over the loss of life.

“Those who play with the peace of Balochistan will be brought to a tragic end,” Bugti said in an official press release.

“Cowardly attacks cannot lower our morale,” he said. “There is no place for terrorists in Balochistan, peace will be established at all costs.”

CM Bugti said that all possible steps will be taken to bring the enemies of peace to justice.

“This war will continue till every last terrorist is eliminated,” the chief minister said, adding that everyone in Balochistan is indebted to those who shed their blood for this homeland.

The Balochistan government condemned the attack, spokesperson Shahid Rind said in a statement.

“Targeting innocent civilians is a brutal act,” the statement said. Rind prayed for the speedy recovery of the injured and expressed condolences to the families of the deceased.

“Enemy elements are trying to destabilise the country,” the statement said. “The people’s morale cannot be lowered through terrorism.”

“We stand with the affected families in their hour of grief,” Rind said.
 
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Slim said:
Why do you sound so cheerful?
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Because they have supported these thugs for decades and our Establishment has been asleep. This is what happens when the Generals are not accountable to anyone. Surely the press conference from our Establishment thugs should have been in Quetta and not in Islamabad.
 
Local.Dada said:
Pak Media hides and suppresses news

Indian Media exaggerates news

Western Media doesn’t give a fish about Pakistan’s internal issues

Where to get genuine news? :cry:
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Personally speaking i just follow @Major bhai’s updates on this topic. Yes he has an issue with Bharat but his updates are most accurate.
 
Mr.Q said:
Acknowledging the plight of the Baloch people or pointing out that Pakistan actively backed the Taliban’s takeover of Afghanistan isn’t defending terrorism or being anti Pakistan. It’s just stating reality. When a state sponsors militant groups to seize power by force, it sets a dangerous precedent. So if the BLA looks across the border and sees that as a model for success, how can you blame them alone? Selective outrage isn’t a good look you know.

Since we’ve come this far, let me spill some beans on the hijack rescue as well. Anyone with a fair understanding of the landscape, the modus operandi, and how military operations work globally would see that the army was likely nowhere near the BLA’s hijack hideout when they claimed they were. From what I’ve gathered, there are multiple kilometre long tunnels along the ML 3 that are difficult to access by land or air. Not criticising your army for its reporting, most armies do the same. My only gripe is that they don’t seem to have done much to negotiate and try to save the lives of their own men, whose lives are just as valuable as anyone else’s. There’s this unfortunate mentality on both sides of the border that soldiers are meant to die smh.

What is the point of continuing this exchange when you’re not refuting my points but resort to personal attacks. I never intended to write this much on the topic anyway. You have a good day.
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Pointing out your lack of objectivity, and the careful construction of your posts to reflect your anti-Pakistan leanings is not a personal attack, it is merely an observation. I'm not even criticising you for it, I don't know why you are so sensitive about it. I am not here to defend this Pakistan administration, in fact I come under attack from some patriotic posters who are fully backing the armed forces.

But that doesn't mean I can't see some Indian posters using these forums to push Indian propaganda, which is more about their wishes for the break up of Pakistan than it is for any care about Balochistan.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Pointing out your lack of objectivity, and the careful construction of your posts to reflect your anti-Pakistan leanings is not a personal attack, it is merely an observation. I'm not even criticising you for it, I don't know why you are so sensitive about it. I am not here to defend this Pakistan administration, in fact I come under attack from some patriotic posters who are fully backing the armed forces.

But that doesn't mean I can't see some Indian posters using these forums to push Indian propaganda, which is more about their wishes for the break up of Pakistan than it is for any care about Balochistan.
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Not every Bharatiya wishes for break up of Pakistan, some are reunificationists too.
 
Another day yet another attack in Balochistan .

According to latest report - A huge blast heard in Turbat city of district Kech, Balochistan .
 
Jaffar Express to resume operations from today: railways minister

Federal Minister for Railways Muhammad Hanif Abbasi has said Jaffar Express will resume its operations from today, state-run Radio Pakistan reported on Tuesday.

Last week, Pakistan Railways (PR) suspended its entire operations from Punjab and Sindh to Balochistan and vice versa, following the terrorist attack on the Jaffar Express.

The Jaffer Express was attacked on Tuesday afternoon when Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) terrorists ambushed the Peshawar-bound train carrying 440 passengers, opening fire and taking hostages. Consequently, the security forces initiated an operation that lasted two days.

On Wednesday evening, Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Director General Lt Gen Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry confirmed that the operation had been concluded, with 33 terrorists killed. The ISPR chief also said that 26 hostages, including 18 security personnel, lost their lives but no hostages were harmed during the final rescue phase. Five more security personnel were martyred during the operation.

Speaking to reporters outside the Parliament House in Islamabad, the railways minister said that drone surveillance will be launched for train operations in Balochistan, Radio Pakistan reported.

“The service had been suspended after the railway track was damaged in a recent attack but has now been fully restored,” he added.

He further said that CCTV cameras are also being installed at railway stations and other sensitive locations across the country to improve security, according to Radio Pakistan.

Earlier on Saturday, Abbasi announced a compensation package of Rs5.2 million for the families of the victims of the Jaffar Express train attack, along with jobs for their children in his ministry.

The Federal Investigation Agency on Monday also arrested a suspect involved in an alleged “anti-state campaign” on social media over the Jaffar Express attack from Banigala on the outskirts of Islamabad and he was later produced before a judge, who sent him on a physical remand for three days.

DAWN NEWS
 
rpant_gabba said:
Damn.

All the while there is a busy thread on possible breakup in south india language. The OP from that thread is conspicuously from this thread.

Hmmmm..
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I thought South India had already broken away from rest of India ?... you mean there is still hope we might not break away ?????? 😱
 
rpant_gabba said:
9 pages. @rickroll you are barely around. Thought you'd have some deep insight.
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Devadwal said:
Asked him how Many attacks/ Blasts happened in Balochistan and KP in last 4 days

:kp
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the situation is dire in Balochistan and who knows, there is genuine risk to state security apparatus and if this prognosis holds true then there is even a higher risk of secession. There that wasn't so hard to admit valid data points was there?
 
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Three hand grenades recovered during Jaffar Express relocation to Quetta

The bogies of the Jaffar Express, which was waylaid by the Baloch separatists in Bolan, have been transported to the provincial capital, Quetta after eight days.

Three hand grenades were recovered from the damaged coaches, which have been rendered inoperative.

According to railways officials, the bogies moved to Quetta bear bullet marks, and most of the windows are shattered. The bogies will be repaired and restored to operational condition for travel.

Railways police officials stated that three hand grenades were found in the damaged coaches of the Jaffar Express brought to Quetta, which have been neutralised. The affected bogies of Jaffar Express were relocated to Quetta from Mashkaf area of Kachi.

On March 11, the Baloch separatists attacked the Peshawar-bound Jaffar Express in Bolan, resulting in the killing of several civilians and officials. Following the attack, security forces took action, successfully rescuing the hijacked passengers. Nearly 50 militants were killed in the ensuing operation.


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Three hand grenades recovered during Jaffar Express relocation to Quetta

Three hand grenades recovered during Jaffar Express relocation to Quetta
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