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Balochistan standoff ends after all Jaffar Express hostages rescued [Update@ Post#579]

I condemn any act of terrorism where civilians get killed. First statement I made on this thread.However from what in understand BLA has released all innocent civilians especially kids and women. Gotta appreciate their ethics.
No they did not.

They segregated based on ethnicities released all Balochi people.

Than killed people after a while.

You consider these ethics? You want to appreciate the way they kill people?

The most idiotic post i have ever read around here.
 
I don’t have a neutral view.

I have both positive and negative views

Negative view- blowing up trains with civilians in them, high jacking a train, kidnap etc

Positive view- letting women, children and innocent civilians go because they are not part of their fight: very admirable. Almost a Hindu template of war dharma- no innocent civilians will be hurt.
I think you should listen to the accounts of the suvivors and not the bs BLA is posting.

Civilians were killled, especially Punjabis.
 
oh for gods sakes dont qoute moeed pirzada. He is a retarded idiot that posts conspiracy theories and is followed by idiots.

Pakistan army picks up Balochis from all over Pakistan. Why the hell would they have an understanding with Baloch Fighters of all people?

If any Balochi in any part of Pakistan is known to support BLA, that person is picked up

All the alive hostages are back.

Forget Indian media or Pak media for a second and use some common sense.

The BLA or the Majeed brigade are known for suicide bombers. This is not made up news, remember about the Balochi women suicide bomber from a few years back and other incidents.

It’s not some terrorists with weapons that Pak army can run through. Maybe in a 1-1 fight they can but these guys are motivated to die but do a lot of damage in the process.

That is why the news coming out of Pakistan is unreliable.
 
I think you should listen to the accounts of the suvivors and not the bs BLA is posting.

Civilians were killled, especially Punjabis.
Then how come I saw some survivors speaking in a Punjabi accent on TV?
 
Forget Indian media or Pak media for a second and use some common sense.

The BLA or the Majeed brigade are known for suicide bombers. This is not made up news, remember about the Balochi women suicide bomber from a few years back and other incidents.

It’s not some terrorists with weapons that Pak army can run through. Maybe in a 1-1 fight they can but these guys are motivated to die but do a lot of damage in the process.

That is why the news coming out of Pakistan is unreliable.
Im not saying news from Pakistan is relibale.

I am saying news from the survivor is more reliable than anything. You guys are now refuting the survivors and qouting BLA.
 
Then how come I saw some survivors speaking in a Punjabi accent on TV?
Because not all were killed. They were segregated and than plucked out after few hours and was on going.

Like i said, you are labelling the BLA as some good guys, using their sources. While you are ignoring the survivors account.

For you the survivors that delt with the ordeal are liars and the BLA are speaking the truth.

Anyways, you can keep on supporting terrorists for all I care. Hopefully you and your family dont have to go through such an ordeal.
 
Because not all were killed. They were segregated and than plucked out after few hours and was on going.

Like i said, you are labelling the BLA as some good guys, using their sources. While you are ignoring the survivors account.

For you the survivors that delt with the ordeal are liars and the BLA are speaking the truth.

Anyways, you can keep on supporting terrorists for all I care. Hopefully you and your family dont have to go through such an ordeal.

It tells a lot about these Indian posters.

Ethics and morality aren't their strongest points. For them, it is all about money and blind nationalism. :inti
 
India's RAW involved in Jaffar Express attack: Sikhs for Justice

The US-based advocacy group, Sikhs for Justice, has said that Indian agency RAW (Research and Analysis Wing) was behind the attack on the Jaffar Express in Balochistan.

Group’s founder Gurpatwant Singh Pannun, in a statement, said the world should take notice of RAW's involvement in terrorist activities at the global level and Indian National Security Advisor Ajit Doval.

He said that India has been waging a covert war against Pakistan. “Modi’s India is not just a regional threat, but a terrorist regime. The Modi regime is engaged in violent movement at international level.”

Pannun said that the Balochistan train attack is proof of India’s aggressive defense doctrine. “India wants to destabilize neighbouring countries through secret terrorist operations. India is involved in killing dissidents abroad, extremism and cross-border terrorism.”

He said that Modi has made India a global hub for state-sponsored terrorism. “The uncontrolled actions of RAW are endangering South Asia and setting a global example of state violence.”

The Sikh leader demanded diplomatic and security sanctions on India’s intelligence operatives. “The world can no longer turn a blind eye to India's covert terrorist activities.”

Pannun said that if India is not held accountable, its next attack will take even more innocent lives.

The Indian government had been involved in the killing of Sikh leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar in Canada in 2023 and tried to assassinate a California based activist last year. The incidents sparked a diplomatic row between India, Canada and the United States.


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I don’t have a neutral view.

I have both positive and negative views

Negative view- blowing up trains with civilians in them, high jacking a train, kidnap etc

Positive view- letting women, children and innocent civilians go because they are not part of their fight: very admirable. Almost a Hindu template of war dharma- no innocent civilians will be hurt.

Please don’t sympathize with terrorists
 
India's RAW involved in Jaffar Express attack: Sikhs for Justice

The US-based advocacy group, Sikhs for Justice, has said that Indian agency RAW (Research and Analysis Wing) was behind the attack on the Jaffar Express in Balochistan.

Group’s founder Gurpatwant Singh Pannun, in a statement, said the world should take notice of RAW's involvement in terrorist activities at the global level and Indian National Security Advisor Ajit Doval.

He said that India has been waging a covert war against Pakistan. “Modi’s India is not just a regional threat, but a terrorist regime. The Modi regime is engaged in violent movement at international level.”

Pannun said that the Balochistan train attack is proof of India’s aggressive defense doctrine. “India wants to destabilize neighbouring countries through secret terrorist operations. India is involved in killing dissidents abroad, extremism and cross-border terrorism.”

He said that Modi has made India a global hub for state-sponsored terrorism. “The uncontrolled actions of RAW are endangering South Asia and setting a global example of state violence.”

The Sikh leader demanded diplomatic and security sanctions on India’s intelligence operatives. “The world can no longer turn a blind eye to India's covert terrorist activities.”

Pannun said that if India is not held accountable, its next attack will take even more innocent lives.

The Indian government had been involved in the killing of Sikh leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar in Canada in 2023 and tried to assassinate a California based activist last year. The incidents sparked a diplomatic row between India, Canada and the United States.


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This is very likely to be the case. BLA is blatantly backed by India; it is an open secret.

India should be sanctioned heavily for acting like a rogue state.
 
Please don’t sympathize with terrorists
I don’t. Once in a while the constant unrelated India-Pak gets on nerves so a lighter tone comment.

Must be tough time for common civilians.
I definitely sympathize with them.
 
Obvious indian hand in this (financial etc)

The captured BLA should be put in a meat grinder and the remains dispersed on the LoC…
 
Bhai, I have little respect for you as a human. I dont want to get dragged down in your trolling agenda. I dont like to score internet victory points on the deaths of innocents.
Go deal with others. 🙏
your co-religionists are jumping up and down in glee.. they can barely contain their excitement.
 
Look you are a supporter of your hindutva govt which is unequivocal that Pakistan is an avowed enemy. Obviously you will support secessionist movements and then try to pretend that India doesn't fund the terrorists. You are a patriot right?
Why would I, an ordinary citizen, support secessionist movements in Pakistan or take pleasure in its misfortunes?! I have nothing but the best wishes for Pakistan and Pakistanis.

Without Balochistan, Pakistan’s survival would be difficult. Its loss could bring down the energy sector and destabilise the economy. An unstable Pakistan is in no one’s interest. I don’t think the Indian government wants that either. Pakistan is already where India wants it to be: on the global ignore list. And the Indian government has never declared Pakistan an avowed enemy. It has simply stated that friendly relations aren’t possible until Pakistan puts its house in order. That’s a reasonable stance in my view (though I don’t support over politicising arenas like sports).

And regarding the BLA, the Indian government may or may not have an interest in it as a counterbalance to similar activities from Pakistan on Indian soil. But even if it does, I doubt Indians are the ones planning BLA’s missions. I don’t support their actions, nor will I ever condone any form of terrorism. This incident has drawn significant global attention (which benefits the BLA and has significantly damaged Pakistan’s safety rating), and it’s important for the world to hear both sides of the story, including the plight of Baluchistan and what Pakistan has done with the Afghan Taliban in the past, setting a precedent that groups like BLA now take inspiration from. Why does that make you uncomfortable Captain? When you throw stones at others and one of them boomerangs back at you, can you really call yourself a victim?


And since you asked, yes, I’m a proud and patriotic Indian. The problem is your assumption that my love for my country automatically translates to hatred for yours. It doesn’t. You should start thinking rationally. I could share my thoughts on the rescue operation too, but I understand the sensitivities and would rather not add to the tension at this moment.
 
My request to Bharatiya posters :-

  • Please do not celebrate the death of civilians
  • I respect your support for the Baloch freedom but it must be moral and political support only for now. If it has to be taken any further (like 1971) it is for the GOI to decide in which case you are free to support the GOI stance.
  • Until there is no direct involvement of GOI, we have no financial or weapons support to give to Baloch liberation army and they must also respect our stance.

In the meantime, Pakistan military must allow aid from Bharat to reach Baloch people in the form of food, consumables, medicines etc. Baloch people who have been through a lot must be treated with dignity.
 
your co-religionists are jumping up and down in glee.. they can barely contain their excitement.

Right now, there is a decent analogy between hamas vs israel and BLA vs Pakistan.
Now take your stance you want to have..
I didn't support hamas and nor I am supporting BLA here. Both are terror attacks and will invite insane vengeance and many thousands of innocents will die. Hamas had the PR machine, balochs do not.If you cared about your fellow Pakistanis, there have been threads on balochistan before but 99% of you never bothered or cared unless it's to blame india.

And as to the glee of some Indians posters here, same is easily said about pakistani posters jumping up and down at mumbai attacks or even establishing a thread specifically victory posting of every terror attack in kashmir under the title failure of india's policy in kashmir.
 
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Balochistan standoff ends after all Jaffar Express hostages rescued

After a dramatic showdown with terrorists who had hijacked the Jaffar Express and taken hundreds of passengers hostage, the military announced the conclusion of its rescue operation on Wednesday night.

In separate statements, Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Director General Lt Gen Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry and Information Minister Atta Tarar announced the successful completion of the operation and the recovery of all hostages.

In his remarks, Lt Gen Sharif said that all remaining passengers had been rescued and the train — stranded near the Mashkaf Tunnel in the Bolan range — had been cleared of insurgents, with 33 terrorists killed.

Although he noted that there were around 440 passengers on board the train, he did not specify the total number of hostages that had been rescued.

However, a senior security official told Dawn that the rescue was carried out in phases. Just over a hundred were freed in the first phase, and 80 more hostages were shifted to Mach after being rescued in the second phase.

Around a dozen passengers, including two railway policemen, also managed to escape their captors and made it safely back to Quetta.

In all, 21 passengers lost their lives, while four FC personnel were martyred, the ISPR DG said.

Speaking to Dunya News, the ISPR chief said that army, air force, Frontier Corps and SSG personnel had taken part in the operation.

He said the area where the incident took place was quite difficult to access, being located far from road networks and settlements.

“The terrorists used hostages, including women and children, as human shields,” he added.

A group of armed men was patrolling the train and its surrounding areas, keeping an eye on the large numbers of passengers in their custody.

SSG commandos acted carefully to save the lives of hostages, and managed to free around 68 hostages after neutralising the remaining terrorists in a gun battle, a senior security official told Dawn, adding that almost all operations had been completed and forces were now in the clearance phase.

“These terrorists were in contact with their supporters and masterminds in Afghanistan during the operation via satellite phone,” Lt Gen Sharif said.

“This incident changes the rules of the game, because these terrorists have no link to Balochistan or religion,” he said.

Drone footage

Lt Gen Sharif said the army, air force, Frontier Corps and SSG personnel had taken part and recovered the hostages.

ISPR also released black-and-white drone footage of the location where the train was stranded, showing the area where the operation was conducted.

In the footage, three separate groups of people can be seen huddled together by the side of the train.

Giving details, the ISPR chief said that the hostages had been off-loaded from the train and were sitting in separate groups — guarded by suicide bombers — making rescue efforts quite tricky.

Snipers took out the bombers, he said, allowing the hostages to escape to safety. He added that none of the hostages were harmed during the operation.

The passengers who had fled to the surrounding areas during the operation are also being rounded up, he said.

Bogie-to-bogie clearance of the train and the surrounding was being carried out by bomb disposal and other personnel, as per standard operating procedures, Lt Gen Sharif said.

‘Misinformation’

Criticising the flow of misinformation online and on social media amid the incident, particularly from India, Lt Gen Sharif said that this openly displayed the “nexus between the terrorists and their masters to the whole world.”

“Interestingly, some specific political elements in Pakistan also partake in such activities enthusiastically and activate their social media [teams], and instead of standing with the state, they can be seen creating baseless justifications and reasons for this horrible terrorist act,” he said.

“Sadly, some elements are sacrificing the national interest due to their lust for political power,” he said.

In his remarks, Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting Attaullah Tarar also condemned what he termed “propaganda spread by the Indian media”.

He criticized the Indian media for distorting facts and pushing a pre-planned narrative to mislead the public, and — without naming anyone — lashed out at people exploiting the unfortunate incident for their own agendas instead of prioritising Pakistan’s national interest, an apparent reference to the opposition PTI.

He said the language of some opposition leaders was the same as that used by the outlawed Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) and Indian media.

SOURCE: https://www.dawn.com/news/1897595/b...nds-after-all-jaffar-express-hostages-rescued
 
This is a list of Pakistan's military personnel who were killed during the hijacking of the Jaffar Express. These are the people whose families have confirmed their Demise, while sources say the death toll is much higher. ISPR lied

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Om Shanti to all the soldiers who were merely doing their duty and ended up losing their lives in all this politics.

Condolences to their families to their kids who would have to adjust to the new realities of their lives after losing a father a son a brother a husband. It’s tough and my heart goes to them all.

As civilians we must act and talk responsibly and must always vouch for peace and no wars
 
Jaffar Express hijacking: DG ISPR says India main sponsor of terrorism in Balochistan

Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Director General Lt Gen Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry said on Friday that India was the main sponsor of terrorism in Balochistan, as he provided details of the Jaffar Express train attack.

The attack began Tuesday afternoon when BLA terrorists ambushed the Quetta-Peshawar train carrying 440 passengers, opening fire and taking hostages. Security forces launched a two-day operation, concluding Wednesday evening. Lt Gen Chaudhry confirmed that all 33 terrorists were neutralised, with 21 passengers and four FC personnel killed, but no hostages harmed in the final rescue phase.

Today, Lt Gen Chaudhry provided a brief detail of the incident again and said that the terrorists had deliberately selected a remote location to conduct the attack.

“The reason I am mentioning the location is that the terrain was extremely difficult, making physical access very challenging. There were no mobile signals there either.”

Before the train was ambushed, he said, a large group of terrorists attacked a Frontier Corps picket, martyring three FC soldiers.

“They operated in multiple groups, taking strategic positions on higher ground. After planting the improvised explosive device (IED), which disabled the train, they took the passengers hostage,” he detailed.

He said some passengers were held inside the train while others were separated into three groups outside.

“A group of hostages was released based on their ethnic affiliations,” he said, adding that there were logistical reasons for the move since there were too many people in the train for the terrorists to control.

He said the terrorists tried to create a “false impression” of humanitarian values by claiming they had released some hostages.

Lt Gen Chaudhry said the terrorists had used both Indian and Afghan weapons in the recent incident, as well as in previous attacks.

“We must understand that in this terrorist incident in Balochistan, and others before, the main sponsor is your eastern neighbour.”

Showing various clips of Indian officials and personalities discussing efforts to destabilise Balochistan, the DG ISPR said the Jaffar Express attack was a “continuation of the same policy.”

India leading informational warfare

DG ISPR then criticised the Indian media for spreading propaganda about the incident.

“The Indian media displayed fake footage of the incident to spread propaganda,” he said, as he showed some video clips on a screen to prove his point.

“They attempted to create a narrative by sharing AI-generated images and fake videos. They were leading an informational warfare.”

The DG ISPR said a “nexus” was working amid the situation to give legitimacy to the terrorists and their narrative.

Questioned about why there was a rise in terrorism, the DG ISPR said the pace of implementation of the National Action Plan’s 14 points needed to be considered first.

He said law enforcement agencies conducted 59,775 intelligence-based operations, both major and minor, in 2024. So far in 2025, 11,654 IBOs have been carried out.

“This year, we are averaging 180 IBOs per day,” he added. Meanwhile, around 1,250 terrorists were “sent to hell” in 2024 and 2025, while 563 security personnel were martyred in the line of duty, he said.

Taking over the press conference, CM Bugti said, “We’re in an intelligence-driven war waged against the state of Pakistan by RAW and other hostile agencies through Afghanistan especially because Afghan soil is being against us.”

Denouncing the attack on unarmed civilians, CM Bugti called the “so-called fight” against the state a farce, saying it was driven by purely evil forces and that the perpetrators should only be referred to as “terrorists.”

Echoing Chaudhry’s point, Bugti said the past policy of “appeasement” followed by some previous governments toward terrorist groups had allowed key figures to be released, enabling them to reestablish insurgent camps against the state.

Bugti said the security forces had the capacity and capability to “handle this mess very soon”, saying that such a surge was not a new thing.

A day ago, a high-level security conference was held in Quetta, reaffirming the state’s resolve to counter any attempt to destabilise Pakistan with full force. Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, Chief of Army Staff General Syed Asim Munir, federal and provincial ministers, senior civil and military officials, and representatives of political parties attended the meeting, according to state-run Radio Pakistan.

Following the moot, PM Shehbaz, in a press conference, urged national unity and called on Pakistan’s political leadership to sit together with the military to discuss the challenges facing the country.

A National Assembly session was also held on Thursday, during which Defence Minister Khawaja Asif assailed the PTI for “politicising” the hijacking incident and “misinterpreting” the situation on social media. The attack drew widespread condemnation from different countries, including China, the United States, Iran, and Germany.

BLA attacks

Balochistan has witnessed an uptick in terrorist attacks over the past year. In November 2024, at least 26 people were killed and 62 injured after a suicide blast ripped through a Quetta Railway Station.

In 2024, the banned BLA emerged as a key perpetrator of terrorist violence in Pakistan, according to a report by Islamabad-based think tank Pak Institute for Peace Studies (PIPS).

In August last year, dozens of militants affiliated with BLA launched numerous attacks across the province, in which at least 50 people, including 14 security men, lost their lives. In response, security forces had neutralised 21 militants.

Earlier that month, then-Panjgur deputy commissioner Zakir Baloch was shot dead on the Quetta-Karachi National Highway, with CM Bugti stating that the BLA was the group behind it.

In October 2024, a suicide bombing near Karachi airport killed two Chinese nationals and a Pakistani citizen, for which two BLA suspects were sent to jail on judicial remand while a probe body was formed as well.

The group also claimed responsibility for the Quetta railway suicide bombing in November last year, in which at least 26 people, including 16 security personnel, lost their lives, and 61 others were injured.

Pakistan designated the BLA as a terrorist organisation in April 2006 after the group repeatedly attacked security personnel.

In January this year, a former BLA member said during a press conference that the banned group “brainwashed average citizens into thinking a certain way about Balochistan and resorting to terrorist activities.”

Last month, the BLA claimed responsibility for an attack in Balochistan’s Barkhan, where seven Punjab-bound passengers were offloaded from a bus and shot dead.

In earlier grand-scale hijackings in the country, one that particularly comes to mind was in 1994, when three armed militants from Afghanistan took control of a school bus near Peshawar and took around 70 children hostage. The bus was driven to the Embassy of Afghanistan in Islamabad, where units of elite commandoes gunned them down the next day.

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Jaffar Express hijacking: DG ISPR says India main sponsor of terrorism in Balochistan

Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Director General Lt Gen Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry said on Friday that India was the main sponsor of terrorism in Balochistan, as he provided details of the Jaffar Express train attack.

The attack began Tuesday afternoon when BLA terrorists ambushed the Quetta-Peshawar train carrying 440 passengers, opening fire and taking hostages. Security forces launched a two-day operation, concluding Wednesday evening. Lt Gen Chaudhry confirmed that all 33 terrorists were neutralised, with 21 passengers and four FC personnel killed, but no hostages harmed in the final rescue phase.

Today, Lt Gen Chaudhry provided a brief detail of the incident again and said that the terrorists had deliberately selected a remote location to conduct the attack.

“The reason I am mentioning the location is that the terrain was extremely difficult, making physical access very challenging. There were no mobile signals there either.”

Before the train was ambushed, he said, a large group of terrorists attacked a Frontier Corps picket, martyring three FC soldiers.

“They operated in multiple groups, taking strategic positions on higher ground. After planting the improvised explosive device (IED), which disabled the train, they took the passengers hostage,” he detailed.

He said some passengers were held inside the train while others were separated into three groups outside.

“A group of hostages was released based on their ethnic affiliations,” he said, adding that there were logistical reasons for the move since there were too many people in the train for the terrorists to control.

He said the terrorists tried to create a “false impression” of humanitarian values by claiming they had released some hostages.

Lt Gen Chaudhry said the terrorists had used both Indian and Afghan weapons in the recent incident, as well as in previous attacks.

“We must understand that in this terrorist incident in Balochistan, and others before, the main sponsor is your eastern neighbour.”

Showing various clips of Indian officials and personalities discussing efforts to destabilise Balochistan, the DG ISPR said the Jaffar Express attack was a “continuation of the same policy.”

India leading informational warfare

DG ISPR then criticised the Indian media for spreading propaganda about the incident.

“The Indian media displayed fake footage of the incident to spread propaganda,” he said, as he showed some video clips on a screen to prove his point.

“They attempted to create a narrative by sharing AI-generated images and fake videos. They were leading an informational warfare.”

The DG ISPR said a “nexus” was working amid the situation to give legitimacy to the terrorists and their narrative.

Questioned about why there was a rise in terrorism, the DG ISPR said the pace of implementation of the National Action Plan’s 14 points needed to be considered first.

He said law enforcement agencies conducted 59,775 intelligence-based operations, both major and minor, in 2024. So far in 2025, 11,654 IBOs have been carried out.

“This year, we are averaging 180 IBOs per day,” he added. Meanwhile, around 1,250 terrorists were “sent to hell” in 2024 and 2025, while 563 security personnel were martyred in the line of duty, he said.

Taking over the press conference, CM Bugti said, “We’re in an intelligence-driven war waged against the state of Pakistan by RAW and other hostile agencies through Afghanistan especially because Afghan soil is being against us.”

Denouncing the attack on unarmed civilians, CM Bugti called the “so-called fight” against the state a farce, saying it was driven by purely evil forces and that the perpetrators should only be referred to as “terrorists.”

Echoing Chaudhry’s point, Bugti said the past policy of “appeasement” followed by some previous governments toward terrorist groups had allowed key figures to be released, enabling them to reestablish insurgent camps against the state.

Bugti said the security forces had the capacity and capability to “handle this mess very soon”, saying that such a surge was not a new thing.

A day ago, a high-level security conference was held in Quetta, reaffirming the state’s resolve to counter any attempt to destabilise Pakistan with full force. Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, Chief of Army Staff General Syed Asim Munir, federal and provincial ministers, senior civil and military officials, and representatives of political parties attended the meeting, according to state-run Radio Pakistan.

Following the moot, PM Shehbaz, in a press conference, urged national unity and called on Pakistan’s political leadership to sit together with the military to discuss the challenges facing the country.

A National Assembly session was also held on Thursday, during which Defence Minister Khawaja Asif assailed the PTI for “politicising” the hijacking incident and “misinterpreting” the situation on social media. The attack drew widespread condemnation from different countries, including China, the United States, Iran, and Germany.

BLA attacks

Balochistan has witnessed an uptick in terrorist attacks over the past year. In November 2024, at least 26 people were killed and 62 injured after a suicide blast ripped through a Quetta Railway Station.

In 2024, the banned BLA emerged as a key perpetrator of terrorist violence in Pakistan, according to a report by Islamabad-based think tank Pak Institute for Peace Studies (PIPS).

In August last year, dozens of militants affiliated with BLA launched numerous attacks across the province, in which at least 50 people, including 14 security men, lost their lives. In response, security forces had neutralised 21 militants.

Earlier that month, then-Panjgur deputy commissioner Zakir Baloch was shot dead on the Quetta-Karachi National Highway, with CM Bugti stating that the BLA was the group behind it.

In October 2024, a suicide bombing near Karachi airport killed two Chinese nationals and a Pakistani citizen, for which two BLA suspects were sent to jail on judicial remand while a probe body was formed as well.

The group also claimed responsibility for the Quetta railway suicide bombing in November last year, in which at least 26 people, including 16 security personnel, lost their lives, and 61 others were injured.

Pakistan designated the BLA as a terrorist organisation in April 2006 after the group repeatedly attacked security personnel.

In January this year, a former BLA member said during a press conference that the banned group “brainwashed average citizens into thinking a certain way about Balochistan and resorting to terrorist activities.”

Last month, the BLA claimed responsibility for an attack in Balochistan’s Barkhan, where seven Punjab-bound passengers were offloaded from a bus and shot dead.

In earlier grand-scale hijackings in the country, one that particularly comes to mind was in 1994, when three armed militants from Afghanistan took control of a school bus near Peshawar and took around 70 children hostage. The bus was driven to the Embassy of Afghanistan in Islamabad, where units of elite commandoes gunned them down the next day.

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DG ISPR is liar so no one take him seriously ,not even Pakistani people's.

:kp
 
Jaffar Express hijacking: DG ISPR says India main sponsor of terrorism in Balochistan

Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Director General Lt Gen Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry said on Friday that India was the main sponsor of terrorism in Balochistan, as he provided details of the Jaffar Express train attack.

The attack began Tuesday afternoon when BLA terrorists ambushed the Quetta-Peshawar train carrying 440 passengers, opening fire and taking hostages. Security forces launched a two-day operation, concluding Wednesday evening. Lt Gen Chaudhry confirmed that all 33 terrorists were neutralised, with 21 passengers and four FC personnel killed, but no hostages harmed in the final rescue phase.

Today, Lt Gen Chaudhry provided a brief detail of the incident again and said that the terrorists had deliberately selected a remote location to conduct the attack.

“The reason I am mentioning the location is that the terrain was extremely difficult, making physical access very challenging. There were no mobile signals there either.”

Before the train was ambushed, he said, a large group of terrorists attacked a Frontier Corps picket, martyring three FC soldiers.

“They operated in multiple groups, taking strategic positions on higher ground. After planting the improvised explosive device (IED), which disabled the train, they took the passengers hostage,” he detailed.

He said some passengers were held inside the train while others were separated into three groups outside.

“A group of hostages was released based on their ethnic affiliations,” he said, adding that there were logistical reasons for the move since there were too many people in the train for the terrorists to control.

He said the terrorists tried to create a “false impression” of humanitarian values by claiming they had released some hostages.

Lt Gen Chaudhry said the terrorists had used both Indian and Afghan weapons in the recent incident, as well as in previous attacks.

“We must understand that in this terrorist incident in Balochistan, and others before, the main sponsor is your eastern neighbour.”

Showing various clips of Indian officials and personalities discussing efforts to destabilise Balochistan, the DG ISPR said the Jaffar Express attack was a “continuation of the same policy.”

India leading informational warfare

DG ISPR then criticised the Indian media for spreading propaganda about the incident.

“The Indian media displayed fake footage of the incident to spread propaganda,” he said, as he showed some video clips on a screen to prove his point.

“They attempted to create a narrative by sharing AI-generated images and fake videos. They were leading an informational warfare.”

The DG ISPR said a “nexus” was working amid the situation to give legitimacy to the terrorists and their narrative.

Questioned about why there was a rise in terrorism, the DG ISPR said the pace of implementation of the National Action Plan’s 14 points needed to be considered first.

He said law enforcement agencies conducted 59,775 intelligence-based operations, both major and minor, in 2024. So far in 2025, 11,654 IBOs have been carried out.

“This year, we are averaging 180 IBOs per day,” he added. Meanwhile, around 1,250 terrorists were “sent to hell” in 2024 and 2025, while 563 security personnel were martyred in the line of duty, he said.

Taking over the press conference, CM Bugti said, “We’re in an intelligence-driven war waged against the state of Pakistan by RAW and other hostile agencies through Afghanistan especially because Afghan soil is being against us.”

Denouncing the attack on unarmed civilians, CM Bugti called the “so-called fight” against the state a farce, saying it was driven by purely evil forces and that the perpetrators should only be referred to as “terrorists.”

Echoing Chaudhry’s point, Bugti said the past policy of “appeasement” followed by some previous governments toward terrorist groups had allowed key figures to be released, enabling them to reestablish insurgent camps against the state.

Bugti said the security forces had the capacity and capability to “handle this mess very soon”, saying that such a surge was not a new thing.

A day ago, a high-level security conference was held in Quetta, reaffirming the state’s resolve to counter any attempt to destabilise Pakistan with full force. Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, Chief of Army Staff General Syed Asim Munir, federal and provincial ministers, senior civil and military officials, and representatives of political parties attended the meeting, according to state-run Radio Pakistan.

Following the moot, PM Shehbaz, in a press conference, urged national unity and called on Pakistan’s political leadership to sit together with the military to discuss the challenges facing the country.

A National Assembly session was also held on Thursday, during which Defence Minister Khawaja Asif assailed the PTI for “politicising” the hijacking incident and “misinterpreting” the situation on social media. The attack drew widespread condemnation from different countries, including China, the United States, Iran, and Germany.

BLA attacks

Balochistan has witnessed an uptick in terrorist attacks over the past year. In November 2024, at least 26 people were killed and 62 injured after a suicide blast ripped through a Quetta Railway Station.

In 2024, the banned BLA emerged as a key perpetrator of terrorist violence in Pakistan, according to a report by Islamabad-based think tank Pak Institute for Peace Studies (PIPS).

In August last year, dozens of militants affiliated with BLA launched numerous attacks across the province, in which at least 50 people, including 14 security men, lost their lives. In response, security forces had neutralised 21 militants.

Earlier that month, then-Panjgur deputy commissioner Zakir Baloch was shot dead on the Quetta-Karachi National Highway, with CM Bugti stating that the BLA was the group behind it.

In October 2024, a suicide bombing near Karachi airport killed two Chinese nationals and a Pakistani citizen, for which two BLA suspects were sent to jail on judicial remand while a probe body was formed as well.

The group also claimed responsibility for the Quetta railway suicide bombing in November last year, in which at least 26 people, including 16 security personnel, lost their lives, and 61 others were injured.

Pakistan designated the BLA as a terrorist organisation in April 2006 after the group repeatedly attacked security personnel.

In January this year, a former BLA member said during a press conference that the banned group “brainwashed average citizens into thinking a certain way about Balochistan and resorting to terrorist activities.”

Last month, the BLA claimed responsibility for an attack in Balochistan’s Barkhan, where seven Punjab-bound passengers were offloaded from a bus and shot dead.

In earlier grand-scale hijackings in the country, one that particularly comes to mind was in 1994, when three armed militants from Afghanistan took control of a school bus near Peshawar and took around 70 children hostage. The bus was driven to the Embassy of Afghanistan in Islamabad, where units of elite commandoes gunned them down the next day.

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This conference about a day later lacked any specifics and just beats about the bush. Desi langauge main " just gas" .
Again, if they claim that they rescued hundred of people without any collateral loss of human lives even if it was just 20 people during the operations, its is insane VICTORY of EPIC proportions. They could show over head drone image but still no images or videos from the operation or even after math of the operations makes it sus.
One of the prominent Pakistani commentator has been saying that hostages have been taken into far flung area and Pak army and Baloch will handle it separately away from media coverage. We are not going to get much news from Balochistan anytime soon.
 
This conference about a day later lacked any specifics and just beats about the bush. Desi langauge main " just gas" .
Again, if they claim that they rescued hundred of people without any collateral loss of human lives even if it was just 20 people during the operations, its is insane VICTORY of EPIC proportions. They could show over head drone image but still no images or videos from the operation or even after math of the operations makes it sus.
One of the prominent Pakistani commentator has been saying that hostages have been taken into far flung area and Pak army and Baloch will handle it separately away from media coverage. We are not going to get much news from Balochistan anytime soon.
DG ISPR said " This incident was not a intelligence failure .

An Entire train is hijacked but it was not a intelligence failure 🤡

:kp
 
The ISPR gave a very interesting statement about how they get alot of intelligence reports and they deal with the issues behind the scenes.

This proves that in Rawalpindi an attack was about to happen but got thwarted.
 
No they did not.

They segregated based on ethnicities released all Balochi people.

Than killed people after a while.

You consider these ethics? You want to appreciate the way they kill people?

The most idiotic post i have ever read around here.


This is being confirmed in news articles published in serious British news outlets such as The Times, with detailed accounts provided by survivors who were first hand victims of this heinous terror attack. I am appalled that Indian posters have flocked on this forum to spew propaganda on behalf of the terrorists without fact checking first. So much for any war on terror, it now becomes obvious that this is just another tool depending on which side you are on.
 
Why would I, an ordinary citizen, support secessionist movements in Pakistan or take pleasure in its misfortunes?! I have nothing but the best wishes for Pakistan and Pakistanis.

Without Balochistan, Pakistan’s survival would be difficult. Its loss could bring down the energy sector and destabilise the economy. An unstable Pakistan is in no one’s interest. I don’t think the Indian government wants that either. Pakistan is already where India wants it to be: on the global ignore list. And the Indian government has never declared Pakistan an avowed enemy. It has simply stated that friendly relations aren’t possible until Pakistan puts its house in order. That’s a reasonable stance in my view (though I don’t support over politicising arenas like sports).

And regarding the BLA, the Indian government may or may not have an interest in it as a counterbalance to similar activities from Pakistan on Indian soil. But even if it does, I doubt Indians are the ones planning BLA’s missions. I don’t support their actions, nor will I ever condone any form of terrorism. This incident has drawn significant global attention (which benefits the BLA and has significantly damaged Pakistan’s safety rating), and it’s important for the world to hear both sides of the story, including the plight of Baluchistan and what Pakistan has done with the Afghan Taliban in the past, setting a precedent that groups like BLA now take inspiration from. Why does that make you uncomfortable Captain? When you throw stones at others and one of them boomerangs back at you, can you really call yourself a victim?


And since you asked, yes, I’m a proud and patriotic Indian. The problem is your assumption that my love for my country automatically translates to hatred for yours. It doesn’t. You should start thinking rationally. I could share my thoughts on the rescue operation too, but I understand the sensitivities and would rather not add to the tension at this moment.

I don't know...why would you? :unsure:

Except the rest of your post is a carefully constructed defence of the terrorists despite the crocodile tears, and a reinforcement of India's anti-Pakistan stance despite your claims it isn't. You can claim that an unstable Pakistan is in no one's interests, but the truth is, Indian govt actions do not align with this. So either you are lying or your govt is.
 
The ISPR gave a very interesting statement about how they get alot of intelligence reports and they deal with the issues behind the scenes.

This proves that in Rawalpindi an attack was about to happen but got thwarted.

Major bhai i will take your word over anyone here. Please give me your sincere comment on the whole situation at a personal level and what’s your understanding of how the regular Pakistanis are looking at this situation. What is your and Pakistani people’s take on the Balochistan issue generally speaking. I will take your word without any arguements.
 
Major bhai i will take your word over anyone here. Please give me your sincere comment on the whole situation at a personal level and what’s your understanding of how the regular Pakistanis are looking at this situation. What is your and Pakistani people’s take on the Balochistan issue generally speaking. I will take your word without any arguements.
Till now people were not sure how bad the BLA is, or how bad the Balochsitan issue was. Alot of people dont know who BLA is. We did know Quetta is a dangerous area but many didnt know about BLA.

This attack has now made us realize that ok now there is a new terrorist group in town called BLA.

Now as for the train incident, due to the lack of reporting going on, there is very less outrage. Its as if people dont give a crap because it was Balochistan. Had this been a suicide attack in Sindh,KPK or Punjab there would had been a proper mourning.

Pakistan did reported false news of just firing on the first day, but the actual news was reported internationally as a train hijacking is not a normal thing.

The lack of security response in the first few hours and no telecommunication has exposed the fact that Pakistan has not developed this region.

My take is that I am not happy with Indians that are showing crocodile tears and trying to paint the BLA as favourable. Like alot of Indian posters are ignoring the survivors account and giving us the ******** shared by BLA.
 
This is being confirmed in news articles published in serious British news outlets such as The Times, with detailed accounts provided by survivors who were first hand victims of this heinous terror attack. I am appalled that Indian posters have flocked on this forum to spew propaganda on behalf of the terrorists without fact checking first. So much for any war on terror, it now becomes obvious that this is just another tool depending on which side you are on.
This lot cries Pakistan supports terrorism and than they end up doing the same. It was baffling how someone like @Devadwal and @RexRex try to show crocodile tears here, than justify terrorist funding, healthcare and claim the false news from BLA is accurate over the survivors acccount.

So at one end they shed tears and on the other end they are calling hte survivors as liars.
 
Till now people were not sure how bad the BLA is, or how bad the Balochsitan issue was. Alot of people dont know who BLA is. We did know Quetta is a dangerous area but many didnt know about BLA.

This attack has now made us realize that ok now there is a new terrorist group in town called BLA.

Now as for the train incident, due to the lack of reporting going on, there is very less outrage. Its as if people dont give a crap because it was Balochistan. Had this been a suicide attack in Sindh,KPK or Punjab there would had been a proper mourning.

Pakistan did reported false news of just firing on the first day, but the actual news was reported internationally as a train hijacking is not a normal thing.

The lack of security response in the first few hours and no telecommunication has exposed the fact that Pakistan has not developed this region.

My take is that I am not happy with Indians that are showing crocodile tears and trying to paint the BLA as favourable. Like alot of Indian posters are ignoring the survivors account and giving us the ******** shared by BLA.

Thanks for your comments. Firstly you need to stop paying attention to the reactions of the regular Bharatiya posters on this matter. They’re not very informed on this and we are going through a phase right now where Anti Pakistan sentiment is at an all time high. They have their reasons but you must grow a thick skin to deal with TB this constant trolling and hate.

From your comments i could feel that the Baloch cause is very disconnected from mainstream Pakistan politics. I have read Pakistani people’s comments also and mostly the response tend to call for a brutal military operation to wipe out Baloch resistance. Do you think it’s the best solution to the problem. Because from what i see there are men and women out there on the streets doing rallies and all, how would you handle them even if all the extremists are eliminated?
 
I live in the real world where Indians appoint BJP govts on the back of anti-Pakistan rhetoric, mosque demolitions and IPL bans for Pakistan players, refuse to step foot in the country during ICC events and flood Pakistan social media with mostly hostility and enmity.

^ Yeah but none of that equates to actual proof that India funds the BLA. BJP domestic posturing is not evidence lol.

All you have is flimsy speculation. I know it feels good for Pakistanis to conjure the notion of 'evil external actors' instead of focusing on the real domestic reasons - the human rights abuses that the Baloch people are facing. You are being lazy. Please engage in some introspection over their long term grievances. The Baloch are suffering, somebody needs to listen to them.

 
Jaffar Express hijacking: DG ISPR says India main sponsor of terrorism in Balochistan

Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Director General Lt Gen Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry said on Friday that India was the main sponsor of terrorism in Balochistan, as he provided details of the Jaffar Express train attack.

The attack began Tuesday afternoon when BLA terrorists ambushed the Quetta-Peshawar train carrying 440 passengers, opening fire and taking hostages. Security forces launched a two-day operation, concluding Wednesday evening. Lt Gen Chaudhry confirmed that all 33 terrorists were neutralised, with 21 passengers and four FC personnel killed, but no hostages harmed in the final rescue phase.

Today, Lt Gen Chaudhry provided a brief detail of the incident again and said that the terrorists had deliberately selected a remote location to conduct the attack.

“The reason I am mentioning the location is that the terrain was extremely difficult, making physical access very challenging. There were no mobile signals there either.”

Before the train was ambushed, he said, a large group of terrorists attacked a Frontier Corps picket, martyring three FC soldiers.

“They operated in multiple groups, taking strategic positions on higher ground. After planting the improvised explosive device (IED), which disabled the train, they took the passengers hostage,” he detailed.

He said some passengers were held inside the train while others were separated into three groups outside.

“A group of hostages was released based on their ethnic affiliations,” he said, adding that there were logistical reasons for the move since there were too many people in the train for the terrorists to control.

He said the terrorists tried to create a “false impression” of humanitarian values by claiming they had released some hostages.

Lt Gen Chaudhry said the terrorists had used both Indian and Afghan weapons in the recent incident, as well as in previous attacks.

“We must understand that in this terrorist incident in Balochistan, and others before, the main sponsor is your eastern neighbour.”

Showing various clips of Indian officials and personalities discussing efforts to destabilise Balochistan, the DG ISPR said the Jaffar Express attack was a “continuation of the same policy.”

India leading informational warfare

DG ISPR then criticised the Indian media for spreading propaganda about the incident.

“The Indian media displayed fake footage of the incident to spread propaganda,” he said, as he showed some video clips on a screen to prove his point.

“They attempted to create a narrative by sharing AI-generated images and fake videos. They were leading an informational warfare.”

The DG ISPR said a “nexus” was working amid the situation to give legitimacy to the terrorists and their narrative.

Questioned about why there was a rise in terrorism, the DG ISPR said the pace of implementation of the National Action Plan’s 14 points needed to be considered first.

He said law enforcement agencies conducted 59,775 intelligence-based operations, both major and minor, in 2024. So far in 2025, 11,654 IBOs have been carried out.

“This year, we are averaging 180 IBOs per day,” he added. Meanwhile, around 1,250 terrorists were “sent to hell” in 2024 and 2025, while 563 security personnel were martyred in the line of duty, he said.

Taking over the press conference, CM Bugti said, “We’re in an intelligence-driven war waged against the state of Pakistan by RAW and other hostile agencies through Afghanistan especially because Afghan soil is being against us.”

Denouncing the attack on unarmed civilians, CM Bugti called the “so-called fight” against the state a farce, saying it was driven by purely evil forces and that the perpetrators should only be referred to as “terrorists.”

Echoing Chaudhry’s point, Bugti said the past policy of “appeasement” followed by some previous governments toward terrorist groups had allowed key figures to be released, enabling them to reestablish insurgent camps against the state.

Bugti said the security forces had the capacity and capability to “handle this mess very soon”, saying that such a surge was not a new thing.

A day ago, a high-level security conference was held in Quetta, reaffirming the state’s resolve to counter any attempt to destabilise Pakistan with full force. Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, Chief of Army Staff General Syed Asim Munir, federal and provincial ministers, senior civil and military officials, and representatives of political parties attended the meeting, according to state-run Radio Pakistan.

Following the moot, PM Shehbaz, in a press conference, urged national unity and called on Pakistan’s political leadership to sit together with the military to discuss the challenges facing the country.

A National Assembly session was also held on Thursday, during which Defence Minister Khawaja Asif assailed the PTI for “politicising” the hijacking incident and “misinterpreting” the situation on social media. The attack drew widespread condemnation from different countries, including China, the United States, Iran, and Germany.

BLA attacks

Balochistan has witnessed an uptick in terrorist attacks over the past year. In November 2024, at least 26 people were killed and 62 injured after a suicide blast ripped through a Quetta Railway Station.

In 2024, the banned BLA emerged as a key perpetrator of terrorist violence in Pakistan, according to a report by Islamabad-based think tank Pak Institute for Peace Studies (PIPS).

In August last year, dozens of militants affiliated with BLA launched numerous attacks across the province, in which at least 50 people, including 14 security men, lost their lives. In response, security forces had neutralised 21 militants.

Earlier that month, then-Panjgur deputy commissioner Zakir Baloch was shot dead on the Quetta-Karachi National Highway, with CM Bugti stating that the BLA was the group behind it.

In October 2024, a suicide bombing near Karachi airport killed two Chinese nationals and a Pakistani citizen, for which two BLA suspects were sent to jail on judicial remand while a probe body was formed as well.

The group also claimed responsibility for the Quetta railway suicide bombing in November last year, in which at least 26 people, including 16 security personnel, lost their lives, and 61 others were injured.

Pakistan designated the BLA as a terrorist organisation in April 2006 after the group repeatedly attacked security personnel.

In January this year, a former BLA member said during a press conference that the banned group “brainwashed average citizens into thinking a certain way about Balochistan and resorting to terrorist activities.”

Last month, the BLA claimed responsibility for an attack in Balochistan’s Barkhan, where seven Punjab-bound passengers were offloaded from a bus and shot dead.

In earlier grand-scale hijackings in the country, one that particularly comes to mind was in 1994, when three armed militants from Afghanistan took control of a school bus near Peshawar and took around 70 children hostage. The bus was driven to the Embassy of Afghanistan in Islamabad, where units of elite commandoes gunned them down the next day.

DAWN NEWS

This was a very coordinated attack. I don't think BLA can pull this off without external support. Only one country is known to back BLA and that is India.

Shameful.
 
^ Yeah but none of that equates to actual proof that India funds the BLA. BJP domestic posturing is not evidence lol.

All you have is flimsy speculation. I know it feels good for Pakistanis to conjure the notion of 'evil external actors' instead of focusing on the real domestic reasons - the human rights abuses that the Baloch people are facing. You are being lazy. Please engage in some introspection over their long term grievances. The Baloch are suffering, somebody needs to listen to them.


I am not here to provide proof of India funds, this is not the international court of justice, it is a forum where we exchange opinions. My opinion is that India is providing covert funding and support for the BLA. Your opinion might differ, but given your uninformed sudden concern for the Baloch people, I would guess you are either trolling or posting through saffron tinted specs.

If you have genuine concern for the Baloch people then there is probably a better suited thread about it already, this one where a terror attack on a train has taken place is not the place for it in my opinion.
 
Thanks for your comments. Firstly you need to stop paying attention to the reactions of the regular Bharatiya posters on this matter. They’re not very informed on this and we are going through a phase right now where Anti Pakistan sentiment is at an all time high. They have their reasons but you must grow a thick skin to deal with TB this constant trolling and hate.

From your comments i could feel that the Baloch cause is very disconnected from mainstream Pakistan politics. I have read Pakistani people’s comments also and mostly the response tend to call for a brutal military operation to wipe out Baloch resistance. Do you think it’s the best solution to the problem. Because from what i see there are men and women out there on the streets doing rallies and all, how would you handle them even if all the extremists are eliminated?

Balochistan is a large land area, sparsely populated and not the most easy terrain to navigate. I am sure there are legitimate grievances which I have touched on in previous posts, but might be better to take that up in one of the threads already running on the subject.
 
Thanks for your comments. Firstly you need to stop paying attention to the reactions of the regular Bharatiya posters on this matter. They’re not very informed on this and we are going through a phase right now where Anti Pakistan sentiment is at an all time high. They have their reasons but you must grow a thick skin to deal with TB this constant trolling and hate.

From your comments i could feel that the Baloch cause is very disconnected from mainstream Pakistan politics. I have read Pakistani people’s comments also and mostly the response tend to call for a brutal military operation to wipe out Baloch resistance. Do you think it’s the best solution to the problem. Because from what i see there are men and women out there on the streets doing rallies and all, how would you handle them even if all the extremists are eliminated?
See one of the reasons why Sindh is under control is due to the PPP in power there. Often you will find posters here wanting PPP out of SIndh, if it happens problems will rise there as Sindh Waderas are as brutal as Balochis are. And the army has tried this.

My point is, when Army meddles in politics of a province long term issues are than installed. Balochistan had its issues but it was under control of Bugti, Musharaffe decided to kill him and since than Balochsitan has been out of their control. THe only solution is finding someone in Balochistan that can control its people. Economic development there at this point wont really help as whatever you might give them they will destroy it.

First get the control of the province bring down the insurgency than give it economic development.

Sindh has controlled violence and now PPP should be doing economic development over there.

Interestingly while many see Pathan as people that pick up weapons quickly, they are not as crazy as Balochis and Sindhis are. They have been very welcoming of democracy and I think the credit for that goes to their past politicians like Bacha Khan and ANP aswell.
 
This lot cries Pakistan supports terrorism and than they end up doing the same. It was baffling how someone like @Devadwal and @RexRex try to show crocodile tears here, than justify terrorist funding, healthcare and claim the false news from BLA is accurate over the survivors acccount.

So at one end they shed tears and on the other end they are calling hte survivors as liars.
Have you checked the list Which i already share here ?

I never trust pakistan establishment Even at the last moment of my life

:kp
 
Have you checked the list Which i already share here ?

I never trust pakistan establishment Even at the last moment of my life

:kp
I have been saying SURVIVORS ACCOUNT. But you seem to fixiated about something i not even discussing.

So you think survivors account is also establishments version.
 
I have been saying SURVIVORS ACCOUNT. But you seem to fixiated about something i not even discussing.

So you think survivors account is also establishments version.
Yes i have seen all things and already posted in this thread.

BLA released the innocent hostages . I have watched enough surviver videos.

Now tell me ISPR lied or not about Entire operation .

:kp
 
If you have genuine concern for the Baloch people then there is probably a better suited thread about it already, this one where a terror attack on a train has taken place is not the place for it in my opinion.

This is absolutely the thread for it.

We're discussing the reasons for the attack on this thread. You said it was external factor = India. I said it was domestic factor = human rights abuses.

How is this trolling ? Seems like you don't want to hear about any other cause other than 'it is India's fault.' Read the article I posted, you'll be shocked.
 
Yes i have seen all things and already posted in this thread.

BLA released the innocent hostages . I have watched enough surviver videos.

Now tell me ISPR lied or not about Entire operation .

:kp
I am not asking you what you have seen, I am asking you, you will take the BLA statement over the statements by the Survivor?

I really have no reason to have discussion with someone that wnats to paint BLA in favourable terms. I only wish that such people do get to face the same situation and than reflect back on what they said.
 
I am not asking you what you have seen, I am asking you, you will take the BLA statement over the statements by the Survivor?

I really have no reason to have discussion with someone that wnats to paint BLA in favourable terms. I only wish that such people do get to face the same situation and than reflect back on what they said.
Again asking did ISPR lied or not ? :kp
 
Balochistan is a large land area, sparsely populated and not the most easy terrain to navigate. I am sure there are legitimate grievances which I have touched on in previous posts, but might be better to take that up in one of the threads already running on the subject.

Greater autonomy is the name of the game. We also have huge cultural differences in Bharat and a North vs South divide that shows its ugly side every now and then including right now. But we have kept it very much in control by giving every state a great degree of autonomy. For Pakistan to survive as it is for long term it must strengthen democratic institutions. A lot of the resentment in the Baloch people stem from getting the rough end of the deal from the already depleted revenues. With Pakistani putting high hopes on CPEC, of which Balochistan remains the key region, they must have a very strong development plan in place for Balochistan which the people can believe in.
 
This is absolutely the thread for it.

We're discussing the reasons for the attack on this thread. You said it was external factor = India. I said it was domestic factor = human rights abuses.

How is this trolling ? Seems like you don't want to hear about any other cause other than 'it is India's fault.' Read the article I posted, you'll be shocked.

You can discuss Baloch grievances in here if you want, I am sticking to the terrorist element which led to this new thread being created. I will take up any genuine grievances in one of the other currently running threads. This one has turned into an India vs Pakistan propaganda fight and in my opinion, there is no longer any meaningful discussion on Baloch grievances to be had in such an environment.
 
Again asking did ISPR lied or not ? :kp
Im not even discussing ISPR. No where in anyone of my post have i defended ISPR or discussed them in favourably.

I keep mentioning Survivors account, but you seem to be very stupid or just a heartless troll that takes pleasure in trolling on the death of civilians.
 
Im not even discussing ISPR. No where in anyone of my post have i defended ISPR or discussed them in favourably.

I keep mentioning Survivors account, but you seem to be very stupid or just a heartless troll that takes pleasure in trolling on the death of civilians.
Because all Balochistan struggle is happening because of Pakistan establishment. So its all depends on how Pakistan fans takes ISPR claims.
 
I don't understand why Indians are acting like spokesmen of BLA.

I think it is better to ignore them on this sensitive topic. I also don't discuss with them Palestine issue.

They have a track record of directly or indirectly gloating over Muslim civilian deaths.
 
Because all Balochistan struggle is happening because of Pakistan establishment. So its all depends on how Pakistan fans takes ISPR claims.
When did you decide to become a spoke person of BLA?

You are praising them.
Other poster is praising their ethics in terrorism and killing.
And trying hard to dispute the documented video evidence of the survival.

What is happening here? are you okay?
 
I don't understand why Indians are acting like spokesmen of BLA.

I think it is better to ignore them on this sensitive topic. I also don't discuss with them Palestine issue.

They have a track record of directly or indirectly gloating over Muslim civilian deaths.

They were also the spokesmen for Afghans and Bangladesh as long as they were fighting with Pakistan. When they were chased out of both countries then they started cursing the same people who they were lionising a month previously.

No meaningful discourse can be had with such people, they are only interested in the demise of Islam, but they obviously cannot say it openly. I don't know why, if you believe Islam is a bad thing then you can argue that case in a sensible manner.
 
They were also the spokesmen for Afghans and Bangladesh as long as they were fighting with Pakistan. When they were chased out of both countries then they started cursing the same people who they were lionising a month previously.

No meaningful discourse can be had with such people, they are only interested in the demise of Islam, but they obviously cannot say it openly. I don't know why, if you believe Islam is a bad thing then you can argue that case in a sensible manner.

Yes. You are unlikely to see them on Russia-Ukraine thread. But, they are in big numbers whenever something happens in a Muslim country.

I think it is pointless to debate with them. They are not respectful and they often distort facts.
 
I have listing and discussing with baluchi people's daily these day at midnight and they absolutely hate Pakistan Riyasat because pakistan used them as a slave.

This is how baluchi people's think about Pakistan not me and I'm not talking about terrorist organisations like BLA but Normal citizens.

When did you decide to become a spoke person of BLA?

You are praising them.
Other poster is praising their ethics in terrorism and killing.
And trying hard to dispute the documented video evidence of the survival.

What is happening here? are you okay?
 
I have listing and discussing with baluchi people's daily these day at midnight and they absolutely hate Pakistan Riyasat because pakistan used them as a slave.

This is how baluchi people's think about Pakistan not me and I'm not talking about terrorist organisations like BLA but Normal citizens.
Why at midnight? why at the certain time daily? lol

You are taking side of terrorists, that is pretty much obvious.
 
Because all Balochistan struggle is happening because of Pakistan establishment. So its all depends on how Pakistan fans takes ISPR claims.
so wait the discussion is about the survivors accounts vs Bla statements, and now you are talking about Balochistan struggle and establishment?

You are basically saying the accounts of survivors is false and they should deal with it due to the govt and BLa is not wrong.

Pathetic imbecile.
 
so wait the discussion is about the survivors accounts vs Bla statements, and now you are talking about Balochistan struggle and establishment?

You are basically saying the accounts of survivors is false and they should deal with it due to the govt and BLa is not wrong.

Pathetic imbecile.

They suddenly became very concerned about "Baloch struggle". LOL.

If they are so concerned about struggle, maybe they should set Kashmir and Khalistan free since they also have their "struggles".
 
Are bhai tumhari galti nhi hai kyk pakistan main twitter ban Jo hai .

Kabhi twitter space ka name suna hai ? Nahi na to Google search karna pta lag jayega 😂😂😂😂😂

:kp
tou twitter is banned in Pakistan, but Balochis withh no internet access and banned twitter are on twitter space chatting with Devadwal.

ok
 
They suddenly became very concerned about "Baloch struggle". LOL.

If they are so concerned about struggle, maybe they should set Kashmir and Khalistan free since they also have their "struggles".
Its disturbing how he he is trolling and celebrating and calling the suppertors account as false.

Like Jaffar express is train where many of us have used and this could have been anyone of us. THe fact that had this been anyone of us and some indian would had called us a liars and trolled our deaths is just sad and disturbing.
 
Indians seem to be making excuses for this Baloch attack. Only evil imbeciles would defend this or make excuses for this.

Have some decency. Have respect for the dead. Condemn evil when you see one.
 
@Devadwal - i must praise your IT celliya online warfare. You are giving your 200%. Its unfortunate that the BLA terrorist losers were not able to put even 10% of your effort and got smoked effortlessly. I mean the fact that they are whimpering and have not been able to provide their indian and afghan handlers with 4K videos to get entertained at is a testament to that. Their social media posts sound more and more desperate just like yours and im thoroughly enjoying them. :ROFLMAO:
 
Indians seem to be making excuses for this Baloch attack. Only evil imbeciles would defend this or make excuses for this.

Have some decency. Have respect for the dead. Condemn evil when you see one.
Expecting Indians to be civil or decent is asking tad too much. The maximum you can expect is silence.
 
@Devadwal - i must praise your IT celliya online warfare. You are giving your 200%. Its unfortunate that the BLA terrorist losers were not able to put even 10% of your effort and got smoked effortlessly. I mean the fact that they are whimpering and have not been able to provide their indian and afghan handlers with 4K videos to get entertained at is a testament to that. Their social media posts sound more and more desperate just like yours and im thoroughly enjoying them. :ROFLMAO:
Yes bro nothing was happened ,it was just Normal firing incident and some tree were uprooted. :kp
 
Like there is no freaken internet over there, aur woh @Devadwal ko raat 12 bajay contact kertay.

This is just like how @hoshiarpurexpress once claimed that his favourite book was Salman Rushdies santanic verses, even though he never read it.
I told you their intentions when you were foolishly trying to "educate" them about BLA. Thats why i asked you to raise your EQ and be able to judge the temperature of the room.
 
Yes bro nothing was happened ,it was just Normal firing incident and some tree were uprooted. :kp
I mean you would know best since your airforce is pretty good at uprooting trees and killing crows lmao
 
Offcourse. We have seen in 48,65,71 and 99
:kp
What did you achieve in 48, and 65? Last i checked Pakistan managed to reclaim a sizable portion of Kashmir known as Azad Kashmir. And 65, at best was a stalemate. 1999 again, a stalemate. Do they teach you that you won 4 wars against Pakistan in Indian history books? :coffee:
 
1971 is repeating itself. Sambhal jao abhi bhi time hai.
:kp
1971 are delusional dreams. Balochistan has only 39% baloch population. Even if a referendum was held, it would be a complete defeat for any separatism delulus.

But when have facts ever stopped the IT celliyas?
 
What did you achieve in 48, and 65? Last i checked Pakistan managed to reclaim a sizable portion of Kashmir known as Azad Kashmir. And 65, at best was a stalemate. 1999 again, a stalemate. Do they teach you that you won 4 wars against Pakistan in Indian history books? :coffee:
I Already know the history and result so I'm not even intrested to know about ISPR version fake story. Search on youtube ,what has pakistan expert said about all four war. Or you just search Najam Sethi view about india - pakistan war

:kp
 
I Already know the history and result so I'm not even intrested to know about ISPR version fake story. Search on youtube ,what has pakistan expert said about all four war. Or you just search Najam Sethi view about india - pakistan war

:kp
You really are something, arent you?

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Anyways this is not thread about india - pakistan war . Of you want to discuss then start a thread and tagged me there.

I love to exposed delusion people's. :kp
 
Have some decency. Have respect for the dead. Condemn evil when you see one.
Like you condemned the Russian invasion? Most Indians are definitely condemning this way more than you condemned Russia.

BLA are terrorists and what Russians?
 
I have listing and discussing with baluchi people's daily these day at midnight and they absolutely hate Pakistan Riyasat because pakistan used them as a slave.

This is how baluchi people's think about Pakistan not me and I'm not talking about terrorist organisations like BLA but Normal citizens.

It's very tough to be sympathetic to the Balochi tribal fighters. Sure they want freedom from Pakistan but just like the Kurds in Turkey, Hamas in Palestine, Basques in Spain and to an extent, even the old Northern Irish Catholics, they only want it to maintain their legacy of control over the populace. They ride on genuine grievances and dicsconnectedness of the local populace and use terror on innocents as a weapon.

I think India's making the same mistake by funding them as the Americans did with the Taliban. Sure in the short term, it's easy to rationalize "enemy of my enemy is my friend." In the long term though, this has the potential to come back to bite us. Even today, from what I read, Indian agents have to pretend to be Iranians, Arabs etc. in order to get the rank and file Balochis to accept our funding. The underlying hate for India (essentially any outsider) is still there.
 
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