Balouchistan vs Federal Areas | RBS Pentangular Cup | 16/12/2008

[easy_like_sunday]

kamran is not a midget he is tall and he is good bowler aswel he dropped a catch nd afridi got a ton in last match but he scored a 40 odd not out to win the match

 

[Sheikh]

Well Butt only scores against India nad Jamshed has yet to prove himself against good teams, so you never know.

True. Has Amin batted at 3 more or as an opener? I remember him batting at 3 for the under-19 team...

 

[asifp]

245/3 in 40 overs.

30 odd runs in 10 overs.

What a partnership, brilliant!

 

[asifp]

True. Has Amin batted at 3 more or as an opener? I remember him batting at 3 for the under-19 team...

Dont know for sure.

But I see more potential in him that anyone out there. Very correct, great timing and like someone mentioned he seems to have all the time in the world.

 

[asifp]

260/3 , 41.1 overs

 

[Sheikh]

These two have rotated the strike and run very well together as well. Refreshing to see that amongst young Pakistani batsmen.

 

[asifp]

Misbah's captaincy has been very dissapointing.

Afaq Raheem playing some loose shots now, but Umar Ameen keeping a good head on his shoulders

 

[asifp]

asifp how r u watching it? and u know any live link/scorecard

I am on vacation in Pakistan and its on GEO Super.

 

[asifp]

Kaneria on again, to bowl his rubbish

 

[asifp]

Ok I am out , 5 runs needed for the win now, shoud be very easy.

Good partnership by both these guys, but much more impressed with Umar Ameen.

Afaq Raheem, somehow I get the feeling he might struggle in swinging conditions or even bouncy tracks.

 

[Sheikh]

Ok I am out , 5 runs needed for the win now, shoud be very easy.

Good partnership by both these guys, but much more impressed with Umar Ameen.

Afaq Raheem, somehow I get the feeling he might struggle in swinging conditions or even bouncy tracks.

Yeah, Afaq doesn't move his feet much, seems to rely on his hand-eye coordination more. Still looks a good, solid bat.

Amin looks straight up classy though.

 

[Amir]

Yeah, Afaq doesn't move his feet much, seems to rely on his hand-eye coordination more. Still looks a good, solid bat.

Amin looks straight up classy though.

Sehwag doesn't either but that doesnt stop him. Not comparing him to Veeru but point is we have to stop this mentality of "lets correct him!" If a man makes runs and many of them (which Afaq has done before)...then give him a run and let him play at his natural self.

Look at Sri Lanka, they nuture the individualness like Malinga, Mendis and murali...they dont try to make them more techincally correct. Another good example is Trescothick. I remember in 2003, Fletcher decided to get him to get his feet moving in the Ashes.....he got demolished. COme 2005, he played his natural game and to me, he was one of the big factors that lead that turn around in that series. On the first day of teh secodn test he stood still but he smashed Lee, Kaspo or whoever while playign his natural game.

 

[Poison]

Sehwag doesn't either but that doesnt stop him. Not comparing him to Veeru but point is we have to stop this mentality of "lets correct him!" If a man makes runs and many of them (which Afaq has done before)...then give him a run and let him play at his natural self.

Look at Sri Lanka, they nuture the individualness like Malinga, Mendis and murali...they dont try to make them more techincally correct. Another good example is Trescothick. I remember in 2003, Fletcher decided to get him to get his feet moving in the Ashes.....he got demolished. COme 2005, he played his natural game and to me, he was one of the big factors that lead that turn around in that series. On the first day of teh secodn test he stood still but he smashed Lee, Kaspo or whoever while playign his natural game.

Then again, we dont want someone like Moh'd Ashraful, who takes natural game to a whole new level.

 

[shabs100]

Sehwag doesn't either but that doesnt stop him. Not comparing him to Veeru but point is we have to stop this mentality of "lets correct him!" If a man makes runs and many of them (which Afaq has done before)...then give him a run and let him play at his natural self.

Look at Sri Lanka, they nuture the individualness like Malinga, Mendis and murali...they dont try to make them more techincally correct. Another good example is Trescothick. I remember in 2003, Fletcher decided to get him to get his feet moving in the Ashes.....he got demolished. COme 2005, he played his natural game and to me, he was one of the big factors that lead that turn around in that series. On the first day of teh secodn test he stood still but he smashed Lee, Kaspo or whoever while playign his natural game.

very well said!

 

[Sheikh]

Sehwag doesn't either but that doesnt stop him. Not comparing him to Veeru but point is we have to stop this mentality of "lets correct him!" If a man makes runs and many of them (which Afaq has done before)...then give him a run and let him play at his natural self.

Look at Sri Lanka, they nuture the individualness like Malinga, Mendis and murali...they dont try to make them more techincally correct. Another good example is Trescothick. I remember in 2003, Fletcher decided to get him to get his feet moving in the Ashes.....he got demolished. COme 2005, he played his natural game and to me, he was one of the big factors that lead that turn around in that series. On the first day of teh secodn test he stood still but he smashed Lee, Kaspo or whoever while playign his natural game.

I think the ''lets correct him'' mentality has been employed, rather, wasted on our bowlers, apart perhaps for Mohammad Asif who came back a much better bowler after a few tweaks.

Agree with giving a guy a run if he's deserved it and, well, I dare say Afaq deserves it. My observation was actually a comparison where Afaq, due to his lack of foot movement, looked particularly susceptible early on; he was lucky not to edge a few that he wafted at.

Amin in comparison looked in total control and his innings was practically faultless. Also his technique and mentality for a 19 year was particularly impressive so I was/am more excited about him as a prospect.

Totally agreed about allowing one to play their natural game. That theory is especially relevant for Pakistan where natural talent is a birthright.

 

[asifp]

very well said!

its not about his feet its just how he plays. Hardly any backlift at all. So if the ball bounces is can see him being troubled very very easily. Plus when I saw him bat i felt like this guy will be caught in the slip every time he plays in swining coditions. Its just how I felt.

I am not talking about someone being technically correct or not.

I am just saying what I say, its a feeling. I just felt Umar Ameen is a much better batsman than Afaq Raheem. Better timing, more composed and not any rash shots.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Well chuffed Afaq got himself a century - a couple of years ago he was scoring and we felt he was getting close to the 1st team BUT then he seemed to have dissapeared as the runs dried up BUT he seems to be back with a bang

A 50 in the last match and a century now - good going, lets hope he keeps it up and then finally gets a chance in the 1st team

Also good going by Amin - well done

 

[shabs100]

its not about his feet its just how he plays. Hardly any backlift at all. So if the ball bounces is can see him being troubled very very easily. Plus when I saw him bat i felt like this guy will be caught in the slip every time he plays in swining coditions. Its just how I felt.

I am not talking about someone being technically correct or not.

I am just saying what I say, its a feeling. I just felt Umar Ameen is a much better batsman than Afaq Raheem. Better timing, more composed and not any rash shots.

From analysing the way he plays, do you think he resembles any batsman currently on the international scene?

 

[asifp]

From analysing the way he plays, do you think he resembles any batsman currently on the international scene?

I havent seen a lot of cricket besides England in the last year so cant say much. Prolly a little like Collingwood.

and no he does not play like Sehwag.

Like I said some of his shots were really really good (pull and six over mid wicket) barely seemed like he hit them, but again just my gut feel was that this guy might struggle against pace and bounce and swinging conditions.

I would choose Umar Amin over him based on what I saw today.

 

[Saj]

Thanks for all the updates to those guys that provided them

 

[shabs100]

I havent seen a lot of cricket besides England in the last year so cant say much. Prolly a little like Collingwood.

and no he does not play like Sehwag.

Like I said some of his shots were really really good (pull and six over mid wicket) barely seemed like he hit them, but again just my gut feel was that this guy might struggle against pace and bounce and swinging conditions.

I would choose Umar Amin over him based on what I saw today.

nice one

 

[Monsee]

thats unfortunate because i keep hearing that he has been working really hard in the last 2 months or so.

Working hard (as in gym/nets etc.) will not get him the right stamina...it is the sprinting/jogging/long distance running which will make the difference and it seems he has never been very fond of these activties!

I mean how can he be when sitting on a chair and giving meaningless interviews will still keep him in the news?

 

[Mercenary]

Umar Amin and Ahmad Shahzad were the only two batsmen that really impressed me over the last 3 u19 World Cups.

 

[sehsan]

Umar Amin and Ahmad Shahzad were the only two batsmen that really impressed me over the last 3 u19 World Cups.

any video you have?

 

[taqi]

i loved this umar amin guy he looks classy just started a new thread on him

 

[Ghoshtbuster]

http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Scorecards/202/202595.html

Amazing spell of neutral emissions from

And what a partnership to win, especially since the pressure was on due to early loss of wickets.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Umar Amin and Ahmad Shahzad were the only two batsmen that really impressed me over the last 3 u19 World Cups.

Ditto

Umar Amir wasnt elegant at all in the U19 worldcup he wasnt able to rotate the strike and clearly had some weaknesses but it looks like he has really kicked on from U19 days.

 

[Mercenary]

any video you have?

No I didnt record it but watched it on tele

 

[PlanetPakistan]

Good to see U Amin and A Rahim do well....

p.s it seems that the pitches are once AGAIN dire for the bowlers.

 

[PlanetPakistan]

Working hard (as in gym/nets etc.) will not get him the right stamina...it is the sprinting/jogging/long distance running which will make the difference and it seems he has never been very fond of these activties!

I mean how can he be when sitting on a chair and giving meaningless interviews will still keep him in the news?

he probably doesn't listen to the trainers.

 

[Monsee]

he probably doesn't listen to the trainers.

And he listens to whom anyway...I think it goes like:

1- Himself
2- Himself
3- Himself
4- Dr. Dhankana
5- Himself
6- Any Chichora so-called friend
7- Himself and so on

 

[siccric]

Good to see U Amin and A Rahim do well....

p.s it seems that the pitches are once AGAIN dire for the bowlers.

Funny since in some of the T20 matches in the RBS T20, the ball was swinging around quite a bit, and there was assistance for the spinners as well.

I guess we shouldn't expect much from the National Stadium.

 

[qadoos]

Well chuffed Afaq got himself a century - a couple of years ago he was scoring and we felt he was getting close to the 1st team BUT then he seemed to have dissapeared as the runs dried up BUT he seems to be back with a bang

A 50 in the last match and a century now - good going, lets hope he keeps it up and then finally gets a chance in the 1st team

Also good going by Amin - well done

with two double hundreds last year in patron's Trophy and over eight hundred runs,Iwould say he was unlcky not to have been given chance.



















Batting and Fielding in Quaid-e-Azam Trophy 2007/08 (Ordered byAverage)
Click on column heading to see the averages sorted by that column

Name Matches Inns Not Out Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St
Misbah-ul-Haq (SNGPL) 2 3 1 257 161 128.50 1 1 2
Sheharyar Ghani (KhiB) 1 1 0 122 122 122.00 1 0 1
Yasir Arafat (KRL) 5 7 4 250 100* 83.33 1 1 2
Umar Akmal (SNGPL) 9 14 3 855 248 77.72 2 4 5
Sarfraz Ahmed (PIA) 5 6 1 357 117 71.40 1 3 14 2
Taufeeq Umar (HBL) 3 4 0 284 131 71.00 1 2 7
Bilal Khilji (WAPDA) 9 12 2 687 147 68.70 2 4 6
Rameez Alam (Mlt) 5 8 2 393 155* 65.50 2 1 1
Aqeel Anjum (Hyd) 5 8 1 446 204 63.71 1 2 2
Naumanullah (NBP) 10 16 1 949 176 63.26 4 3 5
Tabish Khan (KhiB) 2 3 2 62 52 62.00 0 1 0
Afaq Raheem (ZTBL) 10 17 4 801 275 61.61 2 1 8
Hasan Raza (HBL) 11 15 2 785 204 60.38 2 4 13
Tariq Aziz (WAPDA) 7 10 1 520 167 57.77 1 4 1
Fawad Alam (NBP) 7 9 2 403 151 57.57 1 2 4
Abdul Razzaq (ZTBL) 2 4 1 169 52 56.33 0 2 2
Asif Zakir (SSGC) 9 16 2 781 170 55.78 3 2 11
Khurram Shehzad (SNGPL) 11 13 1 661 166 55.08 2 3 8
Ijaz Ahmed (Fsd) 10 14 1 711 174 54.69 1 4 5
Nasir Jamshed (NBP) 10 17 2 800 134 53.3

 

[Boi]

Umar Amin Looks Like A Very Elegent Batsmen!!

Saw Him In U19 Against England, He Scored A Century And He Looked Really Comfortable While He Was At The Crease!!

He Should Be A Perfect Replacement For Younis Khan If He Keeps This Up And Improves On Some Things!!

 

[asifp]

he probably doesn't listen to the trainers.

only to Tauseef Zia who keeps on telling him he needs a huge upper body, otherwise his rib will break.

Well it hasnt worked, maybe he needs to listen to someone else.

Give Brett Lee a call

 

[observer1]

Rao seems to have bowled well for the Federal Areas, despite only picking up the one wicket.
Anyway, well played Federal Areas, well played Uman and Afaq

 

[sehsan]

with two double hundreds last year in patron's Trophy and over eight hundred runs,Iwould say he was unlcky not to have been given chance.

Yes he did well in quaid-azam trophy and we know the standard of those teams as well. Can you please tell us how did he perform in Pentagular cup 4-day matches.

glad to see both amin and afaq doing well. Hope they will continue to shine.

 

[Poison]

Anybody know who Ahmed Shehzad is playing for? He's a player for the future, sad to see him not getting a go.