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Bangladesh: Still cricket minnows?

Hyperion66 said:
In tests? Definitely yes.

Playing a truckload of below average finger spinners at home against a team that is playing their third test match. It can't get more defeatist than this.

Against bigger teams it is justified playing by your strength at home but playing zero pacers against a team that got test status like literally a few months back is outrageous, BD fans should be livid at their team management.
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You are right. We are livid and we are tired of this team. They have been playing for so long yet overall progress has been below-par.

Do you know what the biggest issue is? It is the fact our cricket is literally run by ruling party. There is an idiot called Papon (who has zero cricket background) who selects players and calls all the shots.

It is not possible for our cricket to do well when there is so much political interference. Selectors and coaches can't do their jobs independently. There is always interference.
 
saeed5646 said:
Match is not finished yet ....

Having said that shakib seems to lost passion playing test cricket .won't be surprised if he retire from test cricket in next 12 month
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Correct. He doesn't seem too interested in Test. It also doesn't help when team is not performing well.

I don't blame him. He can easily retire from international cricket and earn a living from T20. Test pays very little money and involves too much work.
 
Bangladesh should have never gotten test status. By far the worst team to play test match.

I have not hating. Bangladesh team is a joke in tests. Zero progress in 20 years.
 
sweep_shot said:
Correct. He doesn't seem too interested in Test. It also doesn't help when team is not performing well.

I don't blame him. He can easily retire from international cricket and earn a living from T20. Test pays very little money and involves too much work.
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He did give clue last year when he pulled out of Sa tour due to "Fatigue ".Only matter of time t20 league gives cricketer alot more money than playing test matches for asian team like bd barring india. Also one of the other reason bd test team is shambolic and pitches are second worse after uae Absolutely no atmosphere and dull pitches with alot of low bounce .My guess is he will wait till bd chances are zero for test championship .
 
Lol Bengalis were shown their level by Pakistanis in the World Cup after that they’ve come down to earth heck they even getting drilled at home by afghans in a test match. They are minnows and always will be I find it amusing their are a lot Bangladeshi posters here and they talk of Bangladesh and their team as if they are a big deal and world champions. Bangladesh is a very poor team with zero exciting players maybe one shakib. Mustafizur might be good but he’s a boring bowler to watch bowls 10 different slower balls nothing lethal about him. Overall a joke of a team still are minnows and always will be .
 
Where's my man [MENTION=146500]RainMan_[/MENTION]?
Haven't seen him in weeks
 
They deserve all the criticisms. Performance has been outrageous.

It doesn't help when there is interference in selection.

I don't know where they are going. Things are not looking good currently.
 
4.41pm Oh dear, there's been a power failure in the stadium, and the lights have gone off. It's darkened noticeably in the last few minutes, and without the lights, the umpires immediately stop play.
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The electricity company are on Bangladesh's side after another rough day.
 
sweep_shot said:
You are right. We are livid and we are tired of this team. They have been playing for so long yet overall progress has been below-par.

Do you know what the biggest issue is? It is the fact our cricket is literally run by ruling party. There is an idiot called Papon (who has zero cricket background) who selects players and calls all the shots.

It is not possible for our cricket to do well when there is so much political interference. Selectors and coaches can't do their jobs independently. There is always interference.
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I understand your pain man, I truly do but not sure how Papon is the culprit here when it was Shakib is the one who decided to pussyfoot around and go without a pacer. Didn't he complain like a day back about not getting a proper turning track? How thick one can be? In a rank turner you wouldn't have crossed 100 against the likes of Rashid and Nabi. It is almost as if he didn't even take into account that a rank turner or even a moderate dust bowl is playing at Afg's strength, their spinners are so superior that it is not even a comparison. Even India didn't take that chance and fielded a sporting pitch
When we last played against them.

I don't support politicians interfering in sports but you need to be pragmatic and understand that nothing of note ever gets done in our part of the world without political will and backing. Politicians have always played a role in BCCI administration, Sharad Powar (NCP), Anurag Thakur (BJP), Rajiv Shukla (Congress) to name a few. Same is true for PCB and SL board. In my opinion ruling party controlling the cricket board is not necessarily a very bad thing.
 
The Chattogram pitch was the "complete opposite" of what Bangladesh expected it to be, captain Shakib Al Hasan said after the second day's play, hinting that their line-up packed with spinners should have been enough for the ground staff to know what they were looking for.

Pathetic test team. Can't win a test unless the pitch is exactly what they ask for.
 
Shakib needs to stop being a crybaby about the pitch.

Every time there is an excuse. Excuse after excuse.

If you lose to Afghanistan (a team that is new to Test), you don't deserve Test status.
 
Danyaalr01 said:
The Chattogram pitch was the "complete opposite" of what Bangladesh expected it to be, captain Shakib Al Hasan said after the second day's play, hinting that their line-up packed with spinners should have been enough for the ground staff to know what they were looking for.

Pathetic test team. Can't win a test unless the pitch is exactly what they ask for.
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Yeah play cricket for 20 years and cry about the deck against a team who are playing in your home for probably their 2nd or 3rd test overall. ::J
 
Danyaalr01 said:
The Chattogram pitch was the "complete opposite" of what Bangladesh expected it to be, captain Shakib Al Hasan said after the second day's play, hinting that their line-up packed with spinners should have been enough for the ground staff to know what they were looking for.

Pathetic test team. Can't win a test unless the pitch is exactly what they ask for.
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Not sure what they wanted from the pitch? playing an all spin attack meant tht they wanted a spinning wicket, they got it ... Afg spinners and batsmen were just better than them .... BD is going no where with their current setup .... this is really the most embarrassing moment for them ... but then again, Afg team should give nightmares to most teams in sub-continent conditions... i think in asian wickets, they will be giving almost everyone a strong fight - bar india and india would probably find a good fight as well..
 
Oh dear, just when you thought things couldnt get worse for Bangladesh and they go and lose to the Afghans.
 
This Afghan team is good enough to win against many regular test playing teams, to be honest.

Especially if conditions work for them, as they did in Chittagong.

Wait till they play others. Plenty of fun in store.

Having said that, Bangladesh has some serious sorting out of things to do. They need to take a white paper out and draw a 3 year plan.
 
The blaming the pitch logic only makes sense if you're playing abroad (although good players are above even that). Blaming your own curator for the pitch just makes you come across as a fool.
 
You know you're doing badly when a Taliban-ravaged team are taking you apart in multiple formats in your home 20 years after you played your first game.
 
Varun said:
You know you're doing badly when a Taliban-ravaged team are taking you apart in multiple formats in your home 20 years after you played your first game.
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Well, most of that "taliban ravaged team" have gotten their cricket training from Peshawar, Pakistan.
 
Bangladesh are now minnows. No question here.

It is up to the selectors and players to fix current mess. It is getting quite embarrassing now.
 
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The minnow mentality continues

This board is a disgrace to the other tests playing nations

I am surprised it's allowed to play WTC unlike IRE and AFG
 
20 years of test cricket and only 14 victories.

Awarding this ungrateful side test status was the worst ever decision of ICC
 
There is no fun in celebrating the defeat of a weak opponent

But let’s be honest, the last few months had been extremely difficult for Pakistan fans who were being reminded of their minnow level due to that tie against Zimbabwe. Some of the most epic, detailed essays of our demise were written that day.

And then the horror show in the 2nd Test against NZ. Whilst the Indian fans giving it large to us is acceptable because India is a proper cricket team...makes no sense for BD fans to remind us that there are 38 better fast bowlers than Naseem in India.
 
Bangladesh should gracefully forfeit their test status, 20 years is a long time. I would not be surprised if they would lose to Netherlands or Hong Kong even. They deserve test status as much as Bangladesh.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Bangladesh should gracefully forfeit their test status, 20 years is a long time. I would not be surprised if they would lose to Netherlands or Hong Kong even. They deserve test status as much as Bangladesh.
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They've already lost to Afghanistan...at home!

The ultimate bunch of stuffed tigers.
 
Got berated for saying this before but since nothing has changed I'm gonna say it again.

Revoke Bangladesh's test status
 
They have just been involved in one of the best test series in recent memory and all people want to talk about is revoking their test status. :facepalm

If they were being hammered by an innings and couldn't lay bat on ball, then you'd have a case for suspending their test status as was the case with Zimbabwe after their players rebelled in 2004. Bangladesh have lost but their recent series have been generally competitive.
 
Should Bangladesh’s Test status be taken away?

I feel it just reduces the quality of test cricket. When you can’t even win at home then no point playing. Also why’s BCB wasting money on test matches, which generates not much financial benefits. Rather use it as a salary to players.

ICC should think about it tbh. Let them play with Zimbabwe, Afghans and Ireland


ICC should have two levels, 5 and 3 teams, with last in the first level demoted to lower level in the next cycle

INDIA
NZ
ENG
AUS
SA

PAK
SL
WI
 
Bangaldesh loves to do this everytime to themselves and their passionate fans. :inti

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They are the most improving test side in the world. Teams like Pak, Ind, Nz didnt used to win in first 50-60 years and regularly got whitewashed.
 
By your criteria SA has already been demoted to tier two and Pak has taken its place in both test championship and test rankings.

I am not sure two tiers can work as a lot of things will have to be considered. Dont think ICC is even thinking about it or will think in near future.
 
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Defeats like the 2nd test can happen but the 1st test defeat was not good enough. You should be able to defend 390 in your own conditions against a 2nd string West Indies 11.
 
Babar_Azam_fan said:
I feel it just reduces the quality of test cricket. When you can’t even win at home then no point playing. Also why’s BCB wasting money on test matches, which generates not much financial benefits. Rather use it as a salary to players.

ICC should think about it tbh. Let them play with Zimbabwe, Afghans and Ireland


ICC should have two levels, 5 and 3 teams, with last in the first level demoted to lower level in the next cycle

INDIA
NZ
ENG
AUS
SA

PAK
SL
WI
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This is an obnoxious argument which is immensely short-sighted. Once you start down the slippery slope of reducing the number of sides that play test cricket (a pitiful number to begin with), then you'll be left with only 3 test-playing nations at the end, which is the de facto position of the ICC as it is.

Once teams are demoted, it'll be very hard for them to lift their quality to be able to compete with the big 3.
 
Bangladesh's overall Test record:

Played 121
Lost 91
Drawn 16
Won 14 (7 of which were against Zimbabwe)
 
Babar_Azam_fan said:
I feel it just reduces the quality of test cricket. When you can’t even win at home then no point playing. Also why’s BCB wasting money on test matches, which generates not much financial benefits. Rather use it as a salary to players.

ICC should think about it tbh. Let them play with Zimbabwe, Afghans and Ireland


ICC should have two levels, 5 and 3 teams, with last in the first level demoted to lower level in the next cycle

INDIA
NZ
ENG
AUS
SA

PAK
SL
WI
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No team is comfortably able to compete like Champion's away from home, so why those two tiers?

Pakistan will whitewash everyone but India at home
 
The kind of win/loss record Bangladesh team has been setting up since last 2 decades, it might not ever get broken. So they can play all the test cricket they want, it's only going to get more embarassing for them.
 
KP From India said:
They are the most improving test side in the world. Teams like Pak, Ind, Nz didnt used to win in first 50-60 years and regularly got whitewashed.
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Incorrect

Pakistan got test status in 1950s and by the 1970s they became a formidable team.
No wonder no East Pakistan player could make it to Pakistan side.
 
Ok then. Ind and Nz had nearly zero wins in first 5 dacades. Bangladesh have good test record in 20 years and are improving.
 
Last Monetarist said:
They have just been involved in one of the best test series in recent memory and all people want to talk about is revoking their test status. :facepalm

If they were being hammered by an innings and couldn't lay bat on ball, then you'd have a case for suspending their test status as was the case with Zimbabwe after their players rebelled in 2004. Bangladesh have lost but their recent series have been generally competitive.
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This series was competitive so I don't understand what "neutral fans" are complaining about.

BD has improved and at least at home they are competitive & have also won a few games.
 
Saj said:
Bangladesh's overall Test record:

Played 121
Lost 91
Drawn 16
Won 14 (7 of which were against Zimbabwe)
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Really bad record.

They should have had more draws at least.

Losing to this West Indies team at home and that too 0-2 is simply not good enough.
 
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Varun said:
They've already lost to Afghanistan...at home!

The ultimate bunch of stuffed tigers.
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I legitimately think if Bangladesh gets to keep test status, so should all associate nations. You could have given Nepal test status and they might have done better after playing 120 tests.
 
Lol Water is wet, Sky is blue and Bangladesh have lost yet again, first to Afghanistan and now to the West Indies. The team of the country MMHS comes from 😂😂
 
sweep_shot said:
Embarrassing record.

They should have had more draws at least.

Losing to this West Indies team at home and that too 0-2 is simply not good enough.
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Shakib was injured, but will there be any casualties because of this 2-0 loss?
 
Saj said:
Shakib was injured, but will there be any casualties because of this 2-0 loss?
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There should be casualties. Some of the newer guys have been complete flops (Nazmul Hossain Shanto is one).

Worrying sign.

Also, I would like to see a new captain. Let's see.
 
Savak said:
Lol Water is wet, Sky is blue and Bangladesh have lost yet again, first to Afghanistan and now to the West Indies. The team of the country MMHS comes from ����
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Him and a few others were very vocal about Pakistan's tie against Zimbabwe
 
The problem is quite deep.

BCB president Papon is a very stubborn individual and he interferes in selection matters despite having no cricket experience. When selectors and coaches don't have full freedom to do their jobs, good result is hard to get.

Also, our domestic cricket is very low quality. That doesn't help.

Are Bangladesh a minnow team despite playing Test cricket for so many years? Answer is yes.

They had a purple patch from 2015 to 2018 but that has clearly ended.
 
Clearly [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]’ predictions from 2015 that Bangladesh will be a top home test side and a creditable away test side by end of decade didn’t exactly pan out. And tbh for a while they did well beating England, Australia in home tests.

I remember he would write essays about how the Bangladeshi domestic structure is very strong now and it’s only a matter of time where Bangladesh would catapult forward and obv Pakistan would be left in the dust. Pakistan hasn’t progressed much further (asides from a good period between 2015 and 2017) but Bangladesh has been really poor. Wonder where it went wrong
 
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The BD WI test series was one of the most classy contests in recent memory. BD test status is not in jeopardy.
 
Slog said:
Clearly [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]’ predictions from 2015 that Bangladesh will be a top home test side and a creditable away test side by end of decade didn’t exactly pan out. And tbh for a while they did well beating England, Australia in home tests.

I remember he would write essays about how the Bangladeshi domestic structure is very strong now and it’s only a matter of time where Bangladesh would catapult forward and obv Pakistan would be left in the dust. Pakistan hasn’t progressed much further (asides from a good period between 2015 and 2017) but Bangladesh has been really poor. Wonder where it went wrong
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He also said Aage Aage dekho hota hai kya when Pakistan's series to SA was confirmed, and Bangladesh were scheduled to host WI around the same time
 
KP From India said:
They are the most improving test side in the world. Teams like Pak, Ind, Nz didnt used to win in first 50-60 years and regularly got whitewashed.
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Please compare the number of tests played instead of just looking at the year of the calendar.
 
sweep_shot said:
There should be casualties. Some of the newer guys have been complete flops (Nazmul Hossain Shanto is one).

Worrying sign.

Also, I would like to see a new captain. Let's see.
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Who are the replacement players and who should be captain?
 
Saj said:
Who are the replacement players and who should be captain?
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I would like to see some of the U19 guys who won the U19 World Cup. Also, guys like Mosaddek, Saifuddin, and Afif should play more.

Mominul hasn't been a great captain. His captaincy was criticized many times. Under his leadership, Bangladesh got blown away against India and Pakistan. Now this.

Mehidy can be the captain as he has captained at U19 level before.

All these changes don't guarantee that BD will become a world beater. But, they have to try something different as present team are not giving good results.
 
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Bangladesh are minnows but then so have Pakistan, West Indies, South Africa become minnows along with previous minnows Afghanistan, Ireland and Zimbabwe.
 
Savak said:
Lol Water is wet, Sky is blue and Bangladesh have lost yet again, first to Afghanistan and now to the West Indies. The team of the country MMHS comes from 😂😂
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At least he will not blame India for this loss unlike some of our neighbours..
you seem to be very bitter after he rightly pointed out your distasteful bister comments.
 
Varun said:
Please compare the number of tests played instead of just looking at the year of the calendar.
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Bangladesh have played 121 Test matches so far since gaining Test status in 2000.

Bangladesh's Test record since gaining Test status ( from 2000-2021)

Matches Played 121
Matches Won 14
Matches Lost 91
Matches Drawn 16

W/L ratio = 0.154

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...nval1=span;team=25;template=results;type=team

India's record in their first 121 Test matches ( from 1932-1971)

Matches Played 121
Matches Won 16
Matches Lost 49
Matches Drawn 56

W/L ratio = 0.326

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...anval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=team

India's W/L ratio of 0.326 is twice that of Bangladesh's W/L ratio of 0.154 in their first 121 Test matches respectively. So India clearly ahead of BD.

Sri Lanka's record in their first 121 Test matches ( from 1982-2002)

Matches Played 121
Matches Won 29
Matches Lost 47
Matches Drawn 45

W/L ratio = 0.617

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...anval1=span;team=8;template=results;type=team

So Sri Lanka's W/L ratio of 0.617 is almost twice of India's W/L ratio of 0.326 in their first 121 Test matches respectively. So Sri Lanka clearly ahead of India.

Pakistan's record in their first 121 Test matches from (1952 to 1982)

Matches Played 121
Matches Won 23
Matches Lost 33
Matches Drawn 65

W/L ratio = 0.696

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...anval1=span;team=7;template=results;type=team

So Pakistan's W/L ratio of 0.696 is more than twice of India's W/L ratio of 0.326 and almost 4.5 times Bangladesh's W/L ratio of 0.154 in their first 121 Test matches respectively. Its also clearly better than Sri Lanka's W/L ratio of 0.617.

So Pakistan clearly ahead of Sri Lanka, India and Bangladesh in their first 121 Test matches respectively.

So its clear from the above mentioned stats that Pakistan was the best Asian team in their first 120 odd Test matches by a comfortable margin. Sri Lanka is 2nd , India is 3rd, while Bangladesh is 4th.
 
szrana007 said:
Bangladesh have played 121 Test matches so far since gaining Test status in 2000.

Bangladesh's Test record since gaining Test status ( from 2000-2021)

Matches Played 121
Matches Won 14
Matches Lost 91
Matches Drawn 16

W/L ratio = 0.154

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...nval1=span;team=25;template=results;type=team

India's record in their first 121 Test matches ( from 1932-1971)

Matches Played 121
Matches Won 16
Matches Lost 49
Matches Drawn 56

W/L ratio = 0.326

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...anval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=team

India's W/L ratio of 0.326 is twice that of Bangladesh's W/L ratio of 0.154 in their first 121 Test matches respectively. So India clearly ahead of BD.

Sri Lanka's record in their first 121 Test matches ( from 1982-2002)

Matches Played 121
Matches Won 29
Matches Lost 47
Matches Drawn 45

W/L ratio = 0.617

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...anval1=span;team=8;template=results;type=team

So Sri Lanka's W/L ratio of 0.617 is almost twice of India's W/L ratio of 0.326 in their first 121 Test matches respectively. So Sri Lanka clearly ahead of India.

Pakistan's record in their first 121 Test matches from (1952 to 1982)

Matches Played 121
Matches Won 23
Matches Lost 33
Matches Drawn 65

W/L ratio = 0.696

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...anval1=span;team=7;template=results;type=team

So Pakistan's W/L ratio of 0.696 is more than twice of India's W/L ratio of 0.326 and almost 4.5 times Bangladesh's W/L ratio of 0.154 in their first 121 Test matches respectively. Its also clearly better than Sri Lanka's W/L ratio of 0.617.

So Pakistan clearly ahead of Sri Lanka, India and Bangladesh in their first 121 Test matches respectively.

So its clear from the above mentioned stats that Pakistan was the best Asian team in their first 120 odd Test matches by a comfortable margin. Sri Lanka is 2nd , India is 3rd, while Bangladesh is 4th.
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How do we account for the factor that Pakistan as a country got a somewhat established cricket system and some players who already had the taste of International cricket between 1932 and 1947 ?
SRL and BD did not had that luxury.
 
Rana said:
There is no fun in celebrating the defeat of a weak opponent

But let’s be honest, the last few months had been extremely difficult for Pakistan fans who were being reminded of their minnow level due to that tie against Zimbabwe. Some of the most epic, detailed essays of our demise were written that day.

And then the horror show in the 2nd Test against NZ. Whilst the Indian fans giving it large to us is acceptable because India is a proper cricket team...makes no sense for BD fans to remind us that there are 38 better fast bowlers than Naseem in India.
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So what are the requirements which allow other countries fans to criticise Pakistan players...
e.g. Some special skin color, some required number of limbs etc.
Pakistan has not produced a single batsman of the class of Tendulkar and Kohli.. yet they criticise them at every opportunity.
Same way BD or even Afghan fans can remind Pakistan team of their failings.
 
Saj said:
Bangladesh's overall Test record:

Played 121
Lost 91
Drawn 16
Won 14 (7 of which were against Zimbabwe)
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Wow this is beyond pathetic, don't revoke their test status but ICC should definitely exclude them from the next WTC.
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
So what are the requirements which allow other countries fans to criticise Pakistan players...
e.g. Some special skin color, some required number of limbs etc.
Pakistan has not produced a single batsman of the class of Tendulkar and Kohli.. yet they criticise them at every opportunity.
Same way BD or even Afghan fans can remind Pakistan team of their failings.
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Pakistan has a rich history, and despite the decline in quality, managed to overcome all odds and win an ICC trophy just recently. Bangladesh and Afghanistan have not achieved much, neither will they for the forseeable future. Specially Bangladesh, they are terrible at test cricket.
 
szrana007 said:
Bangladesh have played 121 Test matches so far since gaining Test status in 2000.

Bangladesh's Test record since gaining Test status ( from 2000-2021)

Matches Played 121
Matches Won 14
Matches Lost 91
Matches Drawn 16

W/L ratio = 0.154

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...nval1=span;team=25;template=results;type=team

India's record in their first 121 Test matches ( from 1932-1971)

Matches Played 121
Matches Won 16
Matches Lost 49
Matches Drawn 56

W/L ratio = 0.326

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...anval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=team

India's W/L ratio of 0.326 is twice that of Bangladesh's W/L ratio of 0.154 in their first 121 Test matches respectively. So India clearly ahead of BD.

Sri Lanka's record in their first 121 Test matches ( from 1982-2002)

Matches Played 121
Matches Won 29
Matches Lost 47
Matches Drawn 45

W/L ratio = 0.617

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...anval1=span;team=8;template=results;type=team

So Sri Lanka's W/L ratio of 0.617 is almost twice of India's W/L ratio of 0.326 in their first 121 Test matches respectively. So Sri Lanka clearly ahead of India.

Pakistan's record in their first 121 Test matches from (1952 to 1982)

Matches Played 121
Matches Won 23
Matches Lost 33
Matches Drawn 65

W/L ratio = 0.696

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...anval1=span;team=7;template=results;type=team

So Pakistan's W/L ratio of 0.696 is more than twice of India's W/L ratio of 0.326 and almost 4.5 times Bangladesh's W/L ratio of 0.154 in their first 121 Test matches respectively. Its also clearly better than Sri Lanka's W/L ratio of 0.617.

So Pakistan clearly ahead of Sri Lanka, India and Bangladesh in their first 121 Test matches respectively.

So its clear from the above mentioned stats that Pakistan was the best Asian team in their first 120 odd Test matches by a comfortable margin. Sri Lanka is 2nd , India is 3rd, while Bangladesh is 4th.
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Great post, clearly shows that Pakistan had a very good start to test cricket compared to other teams.
 
Rana said:
Him and a few others were very vocal about Pakistan's tie against Zimbabwe
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Also said something like the last nail in the coffin of Pak team has been done.
I used to think he was a bit neutral, but my views changed after his constant berating of Pak Cricket.
 
A lot of blame has to go to the domestic pitches. Haven't seen a country where just 1 pacer is played in Tests alongwith 4 spinners. If you are going to make such pitches, you are not going to produce fast bowlers and batters who can play pace or swing well.

A lot of their test matches that I have seen are either rank turners or flat roads. The rank turners like the ones used in the series against England and Aus wouldn't help their batter or bowlers become better. Too much in the pitch would lead to lack of development of necessary skills which has been happening since last 10 years at least. Till 2006, they were proper minnows, only after that, Shahryar Nafees, Shakib, Mushfiq etc started to come. I remember Ashraful was probably their first ODI centurion. It was only around 2007 that Sharyar Nafees scored 5 or 6 hundreds.

Currently apart from their established 4 ie Shakib, Tamim, Mushfiqur, Mahmudullah, I can see Miraz, Litton Das and Mosaddek Hossain are true quality players. Don't know about others.

Mashrafe has had a lot to do with the success of Ban ODI team. His leadership was phenomenal.

Another thing, they need to get rid of that Papon guy, he is extremely annoying. The last thing he can do is make himself their team captain as well.
 
cricket4all said:
Bangladesh are minnows but then so have Pakistan, West Indies, South Africa become minnows along with previous minnows Afghanistan, Ireland and Zimbabwe.
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Those teams have some achievements

All 3 of them are going through their worst phase in 50-60 years yet they are producing better results than Bangladesh
 
Usman Chadda said:
Pakistan has a rich history, and despite the decline in quality, managed to overcome all odds and win an ICC trophy just recently. Bangladesh and Afghanistan have not achieved much, neither will they for the forseeable future. Specially Bangladesh, they are terrible at test cricket.
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So what. As cricket fans.. they also should be able to criticise any cricketer from any part of the world..
Why exclude them based on their teams performances. ?
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
So what. As cricket fans.. they also should be able to criticise any cricketer from any part of the world..
Why exclude them based on their teams performances. ?
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I agree. No player is immune from criticism regardless of where they come from and what team they support.

The problem is the arrogance from Bangladesh fans and the way their players behave. A prime example of this is when a certain Bangladesh supporter made a thread called "Is Bangladesh becoming a powerhouse in cricket". You're going to get mocked and trolled if you're going to post stuff like this.
 
topspin said:
I agree. No player is immune from criticism regardless of where they come from and what team they support.

The problem is the arrogance from Bangladesh fans and the way their players behave. A prime example of this is when a certain Bangladesh supporter made a thread called "Is Bangladesh becoming a powerhouse in cricket". You're going to get mocked and trolled if you're going to post stuff like this.
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That particular poster wasn't a Bangladeshi, his main goal was to rile up the other posters here to attack the Bangladesh cricket team. Thats certainly not how Bangladeshi posters behave on here.
 
Bangladesh have some decent youngsters.

Mehidy Hasan Miraz impressed me, but they need to make use of their home conditions much more.
 
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