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A little bit a of stability is exactly what Pakistan needs, though not stability at an extreme (Misbah). We need to stop trying to copy exactly what every other team does, and only take the points relevant to us.

Our bowling attack is capable of defending anything around 250 in this day and age. 220-230 is something we do regularly too. We need to base our batting attack around stable batsman with one or two hitters at the end.

In the past, successful Pakistan teams have had people accumulating for much of the innings, with the all-rounders/keepers/tail doing the hitting at the end. We need to stick with the winning formula, play to our strengths, and take relevant points from other teams (i.e. improve fielding standard, and tail batting standard).

This is the mentality we need to get rid off , we have to move on from this sick mentality . And yes Misbah was a much better stabilizer than Azhar
 
his stats are enough to judge him and he is no special in swinging and bouncy conditions, playing with Sr of 54 against a club team :fcepalm:

than recall england and aussi test series, where pitches were bouncy and swinging and he performed good ( test )
in ODI i doubt too, but now this is what we have,give him some time and series and let's see how he is gonna perform.
 
Sabbir can be our own Maxwell. Maybe Anamul too if he bats lower down. Both are highly talented.
 
Stop talking nonsense. Maybe you have short term memory but no one complained before 2010-2011 about batting like they have now. I don't like blaming things but captain makes a massive difference and Misbah has implemented this ridiculous defensiveness in our cricket and is trying to extend his legacy through Azhar.

Actually our batting has always been fragile or been based around accumulators/conventional players. Our bowling has always been our strong suit, and has always been what has won us games.

Just because Azhar is a defensive batsman, doesn't mean he's a defensive/negative captain. We actually have to see him play to make a judgement on him.
 
Very good would be someone like Amla, Trott (Prior to getting dropped), Dravid, Younus khan etc.

He is good but not very good.

Those are world class batsmen.

Between them and Azhar/Shafiq, we have excellent batsmen like Kohli, Williamson, Taylor, du Plessis, Root, Smith, Rahane, Bell etc.

There aren't many in the 'very good' category alongside Azhar and Shafiq; maybe D. Bravo and Chandimal.
 
This is the mentality we need to get rid off , we have to move on from this sick mentality . And yes Misbah was a much better stabilizer than Azhar

So you're saying we need to focus on playing to our weakness? I don't see how that helps. We need to base our whole lineup around our strength, which is clearly our bowling.
 
It is high time for Bangladesh to show to the world where they lie now in international stage. There came no better time in the past than this time to beat this soft Pakistan lead by a soft captain.I will be really disappointed if Bangladesh fails to do so
 
According to Mamoon Shafiq is some ATG in the making in ODIs though... and Azhar is even boring to watch for a test match so it says something. Normally test players naturally accelerate as they progresss, he bats at a SR of 30 whether he has faced 10 balls or 300 balls. He was on the verge of getting dropped (was benched for first 2 tests) against SL, he was lucky to score a century in the 3rd courtesy of defensive field placement by SL.

Your love for awful hyperboles is chronic. Show me where I said he's an ATG in the making, or simply stop clutching at straws and ignore this post.
 
than recall england and aussi test series, where pitches were bouncy and swinging and he performed good ( test )
in ODI i doubt too, but now this is what we have,give him some time and series and let's see how he is gonna perform.

aa.JPG IF this is a good record then may GOD protect our future
 
This series is a good refection of our present status, even Indian C team is better than us.
 
There is a reason why I have always said Yasir Shah is not a LOI bowler. His poor LA stats say that, and I am a strong believer in domestic stats.

Guy has no variation at all, and he was favoured over Raza Hasan for no reason. And this poor treatment of Raza led to the unfortunate events that are happening now.

Yasir is average, everyone can see that. You didn't provide any smashing insight and nor did you make some incredible discovery. Stop stating the obvious.
 
It is high time for Bangladesh to show to the world where they lie now in international stage. There came no better time in the past than this time to beat this soft Pakistan lead by a soft captain.I will be really disappointed if Bangladesh fails to do so

Agreed.If they cant defeat Pakistan now then they can never do it
 
It is high time for Bangladesh to show to the world where they lie now in international stage. There came no better time in the past than this time to beat this soft Pakistan lead by a soft captain.I will be really disappointed if Bangladesh fails to do so

even if they whitewash Pakistan in ODIs it wont prove anything, I will take BAngladesh seriously when they outclass a decent side in tests even at home
 
Asad is in the last chance saloon- he has it in him to come good i believe. Has the right make up for a modern batsman.
Just hope he is not consumed by self doubt on the limited over stage
 
It is high time for Bangladesh to show to the world where they lie now in international stage. There came no better time in the past than this time to beat this soft Pakistan lead by a soft captain.I will be really disappointed if Bangladesh fails to do so

You should thank to PCB and Mr. Waqar
 
The purpose of sports is to provide entertainment for fans, that is the fundamental aspect of sports.

I don't want to watch someone blocking half volleys all day, I want to see proper shots on merit in tests. I woke up once at 5am to watch Babar Azam bat and he scored 266, I would never pay to watch Misbah or Azhar

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#OrbisGems

By this logic, you must hate Fawad Alam then.
 
Just wondering. suppose you were the PCB administrator, at what point would you stop investing in Shafiq and admit that he is a false ray of hope?

I'd give him 15 games @3 and tell him to play his shots. If he doesn't succeed, I wont invest in him in ODIs any further.

He's doing a very good job in Test cricket.
 
So you're saying we need to focus on playing to our weakness? I don't see how that helps. We need to base our whole lineup around our strength, which is clearly our bowling.

yes we have to focus on our weakness to improve it or else we are going no where, 400 is being scored easily these days and with this mentality we are not going anywhere . you have to change with time ,
 
Ppl r taking too seriously here this practice match apart from the players put there who are playing. Players and capatain are practicing and experimenting their strategy that all. If it works fine if doesnt not a bi g deal.
 
yes we have to focus on our weakness to improve it or else we are going no where, 400 is being scored easily these days and with this mentality we are not going anywhere . you have to change with time ,

Yes we do need to improve our batting. But what I'm saying is that our lineup should be based around our bowling attack. 250-260 is a score we can easily defend normally. However, against weak bowling lineups, we can definately push for more.
 
I'd give him 15 games @3 and tell him to play his shots. If he doesn't succeed, I wont invest in him in ODIs any further.

He's doing a very good job in Test cricket.

if he had averaged over 30 with good sr then it would have been useful to invest at no 3 but now after 50 plus odis , he has shown no glimpse so its useless to let him play any further
 
I'd give him 15 games @3 and tell him to play his shots. If he doesn't succeed, I wont invest in him in ODIs any further.

He's doing a very good job in Test cricket.

15 games means 3 series, at most he should get 7-8 ODIs (2 Series) and if he cant average 40+ with S/R 75+, he should be dumped for good....

Though atm, he doesnt deserve to be in playing XI
 
Yes we do need to improve our batting. But what I'm saying is that our lineup should be based around our bowling attack. 250-260 is a score we can easily defend normally. However, against weak bowling lineups, we can definately push for more.

so for example Aus has world class bowling and can defend low totals so they should stop playing , maxwell , warner , watson because they dont need to play at good strike rate because of their bowling , makes no sense
 
so for example Aus has world class bowling and can defend low totals so they should stop playing , maxwell , warner , watson because they dont need to play at good strike rate because of their bowling , makes no sense

Do we have anyone remotely class to Maxwell, Smith, Warner, and Watson? Do we even have anyone close to Finch?
 
so for example Aus has world class bowling and can defend low totals so they should stop playing , maxwell , warner , watson because they dont need to play at good strike rate because of their bowling , makes no sense

We dont have MAxwells, Warner, WAtson...

Our best players are Fawad and HArris in this line up
 
so for example Aus has world class bowling and can defend low totals so they should stop playing , maxwell , warner , watson because they dont need to play at good strike rate because of their bowling , makes no sense

What we need is a unit that can consistently get us to 250ish, and sometimes go beyond. Not a unit who folds for under 200 at times, and goes over 300 at times.
 
Yes, I will. But only after Bangladesh have beaten Pakistan. You know we failed to beat India A last time.

Don't get too excited- i do not think you will win this either.
People are reading too much into the practice game here.
 
even if they whitewash Pakistan in ODIs it wont prove anything, I will take BAngladesh seriously when they outclass a decent side in tests even at home
Pakistan isn't even a decent side! Are you kidding me?They are still high above us in ICC ranking , both in ODIs and tests.It will be awesome if we can beat them. But you know it's only a dream until now for us Bangladeshis
 
Sabbir is hitting sixes for fun... Is this supposed to be a small ground or our bowling has been crap?
 
Pakistan isn't even a decent side! Are you kidding me?They are still high above us in ICC ranking , both in ODIs and tests.It will be awesome if we can beat them. But you know it's only a dream until now for us Bangladeshis

Beating Pakistan against ODIs wont prove Bangla are an improved side, beating Pakistan and tests would prove that BAngla have improved...

In ODIs Pakistan have been average for some time now, Bangla batting is better in ODIs than PAkistan
 
It's criminal that Ajmal is in the team ahead of Zafar. Ajmal isn't proven at domestic level yet, and they select him for an international tour :facepalm:

I think it is best for Zafar and Shahzaib to play A-series against lanka...

Ajmal wont be able to survive with his new action
 
Sabbir is hitting sixes for fun... Is this supposed to be a small ground or our bowling has been crap?

Bro shabbir is known for hard hitting but lately he also developed decent tecnique. So he is able to hit biggies in any ground. And he is a decent batsman.
 
hahahah we lost it too , Ajmal is finished sadly , so will be hafeezs bowling
 
Rahat has a lot to prove in ODIs, I am tempted to play Ehsan, but Rahat deserves few more after a decent WC
 
Bro shabbir is known for hard hitting but lately he also developed decent tecnique. So he is able to hit biggies in any ground. And he is a decent batsman.

Is he in the senior team too?
 
Not really a BCB XI if you play your main team players as well - Sabbir, Tamin, Imrul, Nasir all play for Bangladesh.
 
hahahah we lost it too , Ajmal is finished sadly , so will be hafeezs bowling

I like how fickle we are in support of our players. The way we make snap judgements about players, one would think its the biggest injustice in the world that we are not a part of selection committee. Give Ajmal time. ffs.
 
I like how fickle we are in support of our players. The way we make snap judgements about players, one would think its the biggest injustice in the world that we are not a part of selection committee. Give Ajmal time. ffs.

We need same standards for all players, Ajmal repo counts for nothing now he is starting his career with a new action and if he fails in this series w should dump him for good, it would be best for both him and Pakistan
 
Now Junaid hit for SIX

Eight sixes for Shabbir so far. Save something for the real matches. :))
 
We need same standards for all players, Ajmal repo counts for nothing now he is starting his career with a new action and if he fails in this series w should dump him for good, it would be best for both him and Pakistan

Yes it does count. There is a separate thread on this issue now so I wont argue it here.
 
Yes it does count. There is a separate thread on this issue now so I wont argue it here.

I am all for giving him a chance, but not a long one, he is already 36, We cant give him too much of a leverage, if he proves himself good enough i am ok with it, but if he fails to impress, its time to say good bye and invest in Zafar and Shahzaib
 
Am I the only one who didn't find anything special about Rahat Ali. His figures in this match sort of justify my doubts on his bowling
 
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