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India’s squad for Asia Cup 2022 announced

The All-India Senior Selection Committee has picked India’s squad for the upcoming Asia Cup 2022 to be played from 27th August to 11th September 2022.

The 15th edition of the tournament will be played in the UAE between six teams (main event). Defending champions India are also the most successful team, having won the trophy seven times. While the last edition of the tournament was held in an ODI format, this edition will feature the T20 format.

The six teams are divided into two groups with India, Pakistan and a qualifying team in Group A and Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Afghanistan forming Group B. Each team plays the other once in the group stage with the top two teams from each group advancing to the Super 4 round. The top 2 teams from Super 4 will qualify for the final.

India’s squad for Asia Cup: Rohit Sharma (Captain), KL Rahul (vice-captain), Virat Kohli, Suryakumar Yadav, Deepak Hooda, Rishabh Pant (wicket-keeper), Dinesh Karthik (wicket-keeper), Hardik Pandya, Ravindra Jadeja, R. Ashwin, Yuzvendra Chahal, Ravi Bishnoi, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Arshdeep Singh, Avesh Khan


Note:

· Jasprit Bumrah and Harshal Patel were not available for selection owing to injuries. They are currently undergoing rehab at the NCA in Bengaluru

· Three players Shreyas Iyer, Axar Patel and Deepak Chahar have been named as standbys.
 
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Jasprit Bumrah - Ruled out ❌
Harshal Patel - Ruled out ❌

The return of Kohli
 
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India's 15-member squad for the 2022 Asia Cup was announced by the BCCI on Monday, 8 August.

Rohit Sharma will lead a 15-strong group, which features the return of many of the regulars who were rested for the Zimbabwe tour.

Batters Virat Kohli and KL Rahul both make a comeback, but ace pacer Jasprit Bumrah was excluded from the squad, with reports suggesting he was sidelined by a back injury. Harshal Patel also misses out due to an injury.

"Jasprit Bumrah and Harshal Patel were not available for selection owing to injuries," the BCCI stated on Twitter. "They are currently undergoing rehab at the NCA in Bengaluru.

"Three players – Shreyas Iyer, Axar Patel and Deepak Chahar have been named as standbys."

Left-arm pacer Arshdeep Singh has retained his place in the side after a string of impressive performances during the West Indies tour.

Former skipper Kohli returns to the side having last featured during India's tour of England. He was rested for India's tours of West Indies and the upcoming series against Zimbabwe.

Rahul also made a comeback, having returned to full fitness after a prolonged battle with injury. Rahul underwent a sports hernia surgery after the IPL. He was set to return during India's T20I series against West Indies, but his comeback was further delayed by a positive Covid-19 test ahead of the tour.

Leg-spinner Yuzvendra Chahal also returns to the squad after being rested for the five-match T20I series against the West Indies, while regulars Hardik Pandya, Rishabh Pant and Suryakumar Yadav all feature in a strong group of 15.

The Asia Cup will begin in UAE on August 27, with India getting their campaign underway on August 28 against arch-rivals Pakistan in Dubai.

The tournament will be of paramount importance for all the sides as they amp up their preparations for the 2022 ICC Men's T20 World Cup in Australia in October-November.

India squad: Rohit Sharma, KL Rahul, Virat Kohli, Suryakumar Yadav, Rishabh Pant, Deepak Hooda, Dinesh Karthik, Hardik Pandya, Ravindra Jadeja, R Ashwin, Yuzvendra Chahal, Ravi Bishnoi, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Arshdeep Singh, Avesh Khan

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/2733783?sf169048535=1
 
Only 3 pacers in the squad. Should have included one more instead of one spinner.
 
Only 3 pacers in the squad. Should have included one more instead of one spinner.

Indian batters will take the game away from the opposition so don't think this will be an issue.
 
Only 3 pacers in the squad. Should have included one more instead of one spinner.

Indian batters will take the game away from the opposition so don't think this will be an issue.
 
More on Bumrah injury:

"Jasprit Bumrah has a back injury and will not play in the Asia Cup. He is our main bowler and we would like him to be back in action before T20 World Cup. We can't risk him in Asia Cup and the injury could aggravate," a senior BCCI official told PTI on the condition of anonymity.

Bumrah last played in the ODI away series against England before being rested from the rubber against West Indies and the upcoming one against Zimbabwe.

However, it is understood that the back issue will keep him out for some time and he will need to do rehabilitation work at the National Cricket Academy in Bengaluru before being deemed fit for the white-ball home series against Australia and south Africa in September-October.

Bumrah had had similar issues few years ago and was out for a considerable amount of time.

Currently, the pacer is holidaying with his family in the United States.

Bumrah's injury is a setback for the Indian team as he would need some matches to get into the groove after a long lay-off which will be more than two months.

While he is an automatic choice as and when he makes a comeback, the same can't be said about someone like Avesh Khan, who, if given a chance in the Asia Cup, would like to prove his worth to remain in the mix.

https://www.thehindu.com/sport/cric...asia-cup-with-back-injury/article65746987.ece
 
Bumrah not playing is a big setback.

Ashwin is a defensive spinner. Babar and Rizwan will smash him into pieces, Kuldeep should have been picked instead as he is back in form.
 
Ashwin is in the team? Why?

Bowling is extremely weak now. Avesh is backup pacer. Hardik will be third pacer.

Bhuvi and Arshdeep as two main bowlers.
Hardik as third pacer.

Yuzi and Ashwin as spinner.
Jadeja as third spinner.
 
Bowling is extremely weak now. Avesh is backup pacer. Hardik will be third pacer.

Bhuvi and Arshdeep as two main bowlers.
Hardik as third pacer.

Yuzi and Ashwin as spinner.
Jadeja as third spinner.

Jadeja and Pandya both will play as ARs

That will leave space for 3 bowlers

Bhuvi Arshdeep and Yuzi.

Ashwin has no place in the team. Rather a pacer should have been selected.

But Ashwin is a fav of the team management and their bowlers who can bat strategy.
 
Seems India are planning on going with two front-line seamers and three spinners with Pandya playing the role of the extra seamer.

Fairly certain that they did some research before making these picks. Dravid is a smart individual. But relying this heavily on your spin attack is also a ballsy move that could go either way. They did the same thing in the T20 WC where they picked four spinners. And that didn't seem to make much of a positive impact considering that they crashed out in the first round.

One thing that needs to be pointed out though (that India probably have their eye on in the matches against Pakistan) is that Pakistani batters don't boast particularly impressive strike-rates against spin. I believe only Shadab has a SR of over 130 against spin. But then there's also the possibility of Fakhar Zaman coming out and just bashing the living daylights out of Ashwin and Jadeja like he has done before. So really that could go either way...

India's pace-attack does not look impressive at all though. Bhuvneshwar Kumar and Pandya will have their work cut out for them.
 
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India seem to be going spin heavy which always works quite well in UAE.

Going to be quite a challenge for Pakistan. The batters on this team aren't particularly great vs spin.
 
Blessing in disguise as far as ind vs Pak is concerned. Bumrah has never looked even remotely threatening vs pak in any format.

This probably will mean a spin heavy attack with one (or even 2) wrist spinners which can be dangerous for pakistan.
 
These Indian spinners are more threatening than Bumrah ever was. Bumrah being injured might do wonders for India.

Fakhar will be key against India's spinners. The plan should be for Rizwan and Babar to bat normally till the 10th over so that the finishers can start hitting out without any pressure when they come out to bat. We all know how collapse prone Pakistan's batting lineup is. There aren't many wicket takers in India's bowling attack so putting pressure on them at the end of the innings should be fairly easy.

Bhuvneshwar should be targeted in the death overs and we can't let India's part-timers bowl cheap overs.
 
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Congratulations Pakistan for winning against Ind as well as Asia Cup T20
 
Solid squad, India was always going to start favorites.

Mohammad Shami could have been included over Avesh Khan maybe. Yes Shami's T20I numbers aren't great but, he could have been an attacking option. India most likely are going to go spin heavy and need pacers mainly for the death and few overs at the start. Not sure what is Avesh's specialty but Bhuvi and Arshdeep are good at death, Bhuvi is solid with new ball as well which complements the spin attack.
 
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With Kohli's return India are in the ascendancy. Good decision to bring back the great man with the WC coming up too.
 
Indian batters will take the game away from the opposition so don't think this will be an issue.

t20s is a funny format. Plus pitches play a big role. There aren't going to be many pitches in UAE like the ones being prepared in England and NZ for t20is where 200+ is the norm.

One good spell upfront or in the middle overs can even odds regardless of opposition.

I'd say even Afg can spring a surprise against any side in t20is in UAE.

Hopefully it will be a better quality tournament than the one in 2018 where almost all the games barring one or two were one sided.
 
It's a strong Indian team..I expect them to retain the Asia cup .Pakistan team looks weak compared to India and don't expect them to win.
 
Rohit Sharma
Rahul
Kohli
Yadav
Pant
Pandya
Jadeja
Ashwin
Kumar
Singh
Chahal
 
Ashwin and kohli could have been replaced by hooda and axar patel
 
Unbeatable Indian cricket team

They will win all the matches open challenge :))

Player of the tournament King Kohli
 
This is not West Indies. Going with the same weak lineup will be a recipe for disaster. Adding Kohli will only make the matter worse. Avesh Khan is a pie chucker. Can't believe he is backed ahead of several more promising bowlers.
 
Ashwin in the lineup is beyond inexplicable. This guy should be playing only one format which is Test matches.
 
Even this India D team can win this tournament without any headache
 
It is a strong indian team, definitely favourites to win the trophy. Even in the WC India will be hard to beat. I think in Asia cup we can realistically expect an Ind-Pak final.
 
Generating pace from such a short run up does have its effects. Bumrah ruled out is an advantage for the oppositions
 
India have named a strong 15-player squad for the 2022 Asia Cup, a tournament which will be vital in lead up to the 2022 ICC Men's T20 World Cup in Australia.

The squad marks the return of many big guns to the Indian setup, after the rotation that was witnessed during the tour of West Indies and the upcoming ODI series against Zimbabwe.

India will get their Asia Cup campaign underway against arch-rivals Pakistan on August 28 at the Dubai International Cricket Stadium.

The tournament will be of vital importance for Rohit Sharma and Co, as they will amp up the preparation for the ICC Men's T20 World Cup in Australia later this year, with a near full-strength side.

The selections give a clear indication of the Indian strategy for the showpiece event Down Under, with the squad for the tournament likely to closely resemble the one picked for the Asia Cup, with the addition of the injured Jasprit Bumrah and barring any last-minute injuries.

Here, we take a look at the key takeaways from the 15-member squad named by Indian selectors:

Valuable match practice for Kohli, Rahul

The Asia Cup will be a major opportunity for two of India's key batters – Virat Kohli and KL Rahul – to spend some invaluable time in the middle.

There have been a lot of discussions around Kohli's recent form, with many questioning his place in the Indian T20I setup. A good performance in the Asia Cup will put this discourse to rest. Kohli has also been short of match practice in the T20I format, with sporadic appearances since the 2021 T20 World Cup. Since the tournament in UAE and Oman, Kohli has only played four T20Is – two against West Indies at home and two against England away.

The squad also marks the return of KL Rahul, who has been out of action since the IPL. The opener underwent a sports hernia surgery and was set to return during the T20I series against West Indies. But a positive COVID-19 test further delayed his return.

The Asia Cup will provide a golden opportunity for two of India's batting stalwarts to regain their groove.

Lack of pacers

In the injury absence of pace spearhead Jasprit Bumrah and T20I specialist Harshal Patel, India have decided to head into the Asia Cup with only three frontline pacers.

Veteran Bhuvneshwar Kumar will be backed by youngsters Arshdeep Singh and Avesh Khan in the pace unit. Kumar has regained his mojo in the recent T20I series, swinging the ball up front while also bowling some crucial overs at the death.

Arshdeep has impressed one and all with his temperament, as well as his abilities to bowl yorkers at will during the final overs. Khan's performances have been inconsistent, but Indian team management clearly trust his abilities to act as the enforcer of the pace attack.

The trio will be backed by all-rounder Hardik Pandya, who has recently proved his fitness and has been bowling at full tilt.

In Bumrah's absence, will selecting only three pacers turn out to be a wise call by the selectors for the Asia Cup in UAE? Only time will tell.

India opt to go spin-heavy

With only three frontline pacers in the squad, India have opted to rely heavily on their spinners during the tournament. There is a nice variety of tweakers in the squad, with leg-spinners Yuzvendra Chahal and Ravi Bishnoi backed by wily veteran Ravichandran Ashwin and left-armer Ravindra Jadeja.

Jadeja and Ashwin will also add act as all-rounders, with both being more than handy with the bat down the order. With four spinners in the squad, Indian team management clearly believe pitches in UAE will assist the spinners, and skipper Rohit Sharma will heavily lean on them to act as both attacking, as well as containing options.

The selections also give a clear picture of the hierarchy in the Indian spin department, with all-rounder Axar Patel, as well as left-armer Kuldeep Yadav seemingly behind in the pecking order.

Axar, could only find a place in the reserves despite his impressive performance both with the bat and that ball in recent times, with India backing the experience of Jadeja over him.

Final opportunity for youngsters to stake their claim

Despite the return of some big names, the Indian squad for the Asia Cup also features some exciting youngsters. For the likes of Ravi Bishnoi, Avesh Khan, Arshdeep Singh and Deepak Hooda, the tournament will be a chance to prove their mettle on the big stage and book their tickets for the flight to Australia.

All four youngsters have made an impact in the shortest format, after making their debuts post the debacle at the 2021 T20 World Cup.

Ravi Bishnoi has impressed with his guile and variations, scalping 15 wickets in nine matches at an economy of 7.15 in the shortest format. His mastery of the googly, in particular, has left many batters bamboozled.

Arshdeep Singh made his debut during the tour of England, and in a short career of six matches, has left a mark with his cool demeanour. He has picked up 15 wickets, going at an economy of 6.33, nailing some searing yorkers.

Avesh Khan's ability to extract pace and bounce has seen him being given an opportunity during the Asia Cup, which will allow him to stake another claim for a place in the World Cup squad. He has picked up 11 wickets from 13 matches, going at an economy rate of 8.67.

Finally, Deepak Hooda's aggressive intent and versatility has seen him beat off competition from Shreyas Iyer. The 27-year-old has played nine T20Is, scoring 274 runs at an average of 54.80 and a brilliant strike rate of 161.17, with one memorable century against Ireland. His handy off-spinners have also worked in his favour and will give the team an additional bowling option.

A good Asia Cup and many of these youngsters could well be pencilled in selections for the World Cup in Australia.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/2734723
 
If it takes a failure of team India in Asia cup to boot Kohli out for good, than so be it.
 
Even this India D team can win this tournament without any headache

How is this a D team? Only Bumrah is missing and Bumrah doesn't do well against Pakistan anyway. If anything I would say this is their optimal team.
 
LOL @ Bumrah dosen't do well against Pakistan. Looks like people have forgotten last Asia cup on same venue where he was bowling pin point yorkers to which Pakistan had no answer and had manage to score only 237 and 162 in two matches. Same games where likes of Amir and Hassan got thrashed and Pak manage to get only 2 Indian wickets in 2 matches.

So Bumrah, along with Harshal Patel missing out, both of which are sure starters in WT20, are huge loses. India is now relying on 2 rokee fast bowlers - Avesh and Harshdeep. So our fast bowling is definitely handicapped this series. But our batting and spin attack is top notch.
 
My playing XI now

Rohit
SKY
Kohli
Pant
KL
Hardik
Jadeja
Bhuvi
Chahal
Bishnoi
Arshdeep


But in reality, I think they will allow KL to open, move back SKY to 4th spot.

Also, they would play Ashwin inplace of Bishnoi (which will be a wrong move IMO) and will ask Ash to bowl in powerplay.

Bhuvi and Ash will start the bowling attack, max 1 over for Arshdeep in powerplay and will bowl remaining 3 at death. Chahal, Jadeja and Pandya will bowl remaining overs. That is a awful bowling attack...lol.

Babar-Rizwan will be secretly smiling today.
 
LOL @ Bumrah dosen't do well against Pakistan. Looks like people have forgotten last Asia cup on same venue where he was bowling pin point yorkers to which Pakistan had no answer and had manage to score only 237 and 162 in two matches.

That just goes to show how awful he's been against Pakistan. Despite those two ODI matches Bumrah averages over 48 against Pakistan. As I said he's not a wicket-taker he's more of a container as we saw in last year's T20 world cup.

Same games where likes of Amir and Hassan got thrashed and Pak manage to get only 2 Indian wickets in 2 matches.

Changed your tune already? I thought matches in Dubai were decided by who bats last as Indian fans have been regurgitating since last year. What happened to that logic? Is this a case of you looking at different teams from different lenses?

So Bumrah, along with Harshal Patel missing out, both of which are sure starters in WT20, are huge loses. India is now relying on 2 rokee fast bowlers - Avesh and Harshdeep. So our fast bowling is definitely handicapped this series. But our batting and spin attack is top notch.

Bumrah isn't a wicket-taker and as of now Harshal is an overrated toddler. Harshal has only played 16 innings in his entire career. India is still in the test phase with that guy. How are you going around calling him a main team player? This might be news to you but playing in the IPL doesn't equal to playing in international cricket.

You're arguing just for the sake of arguing at this point.
 
That just goes to show how awful he's been against Pakistan. Despite those two ODI matches Bumrah averages over 48 against Pakistan. As I said he's not a wicket-taker he's more of a container as we saw in last year's T20 world cup.



Changed your tune already? I thought matches in Dubai were decided by who bats last as Indian fans have been regurgitating since last year. What happened to that logic? Is this a case of you looking at different teams from different lenses?



Bumrah isn't a wicket-taker and as of now Harshal is an overrated toddler. Harshal has only played 16 innings in his entire career. India is still in the test phase with that guy. How are you going around calling him a main team player? This might be news to you but playing in the IPL doesn't equal to playing in international cricket.

You're arguing just for the sake of arguing at this point.

Bumrah isn't a wicket taker? :91:

That is why he has a strike rate of 18.1 with avg of 19 and economy of 6.5 in T20s?

Compare it to Shaheen who has strike rate of 18.8 with avg of 25 and economy of 7.75.

As far as Bumrah's avg of 48 (in ODIs) against Pakistan is concerned, he only has played 5 games. That is enough sample size to prove he is a non performer against Pakistan?

Babar Azam avgs 31 in 5 ODI games against India. Should Indian fans also give such statements that Babar Azam never performs against India.

Too much hyperbole...Bumrah is the best bowler in the world across formats and he will be missed by any team.

Pakistan is lucky not to be facing him in Asia cup
 
India have done the right thing by giving their bench enough international exposure since the 2021 T20 World Cup. They are definitely contenders to win the Asia cup and Word cup now.
 
India have shown clearly that guys like SKY and Iyer can step up if Rohit and Kohli are unavailable or injured

Who has Pakistan shown that can step up if Babar has to sit out for whatever reason? Our development program is associate cricket level
 
Bumrah isn't a wicket taker? :91: That is why he has a strike rate of 18.1 with avg of 19 and economy of 6.5 in T20s? Compare it to Shaheen who has strike rate of 18.8 with avg of 25 and economy of 7.75.

I've watched enough cricket to know that Bumrah definitely isn't a wicket-taker. And stats prove my point. Since you're hellbent on comparing Shaheen and Bumrah's wicket-taking ability I'll be using Shaheen as a reference.

48.9% of Shaheen's wickets in T20s are against the opposition's top-order(1-3), whereas only 37.7% of Bumrah's wickets in T20s are against the opposition's top-order.

The same thread continues in ODI's where 46.8% of Shaheen's wickets are against the opposition's top-order. Whereas 35.5% of Bumrah's wickets are against the opposition's top-order.

To me wicket-taking ability means opening up the opposition's top order. Taking wickets against tail-enders is fine but that doesn't win you matches.

Take for example Shaheen's bowling against India last year. Imagine if Shaheen kept it tight outside off stump and didn't take out Rohit and KL Rahul early. Shaheen's stats would've been something like 15 runs for 0 wickets in three overs. Now imagine Shaheen came back in the last over and took 3 wickets for let's say 12 runs at which point India's innings is practically already over. Shaheen would've ended with stats of 4-0-27-3.

If what I've said above happened in reality India would've ended up with a much higher final score and might've won the match but Shaheen's stats would've suggested that he's a deadly wicket-taker when in reality he isn't in that situation.

Now replace Shaheen with Bumrah and the above situation is almost always the reality.

As far as Bumrah's avg of 48 (in ODIs) against Pakistan is concerned, he only has played 5 games. That is enough sample size to prove he is a non performer against Pakistan?

Babar Azam avgs 31 in 5 ODI games against India. Should Indian fans also give such statements that Babar Azam never performs against India.

Unlike Bumrah, Babar's stats are good all-around. For example, Babar averages 52 at an SR of 90 against the top 5 ranked ODI teams. Bumrah for comparison averages 31.5 at an economy of 5(A great economy rate BTW) against the top 5 ranked ODI teams. On average Bumrah takes a lot more wickets against the opposition's tailenders in comparison to other top-ranked bowlers due to his lack of wicket-taking ability. If you add that element Bumrah's stats are even less impressive.

It won't take a genius to guess that Babar and Bumrah aren't comparable when it comes to their weaknesses.

Bumrah is a good bowler but you're greatly overrating him to make India's Asia Cup team seem like a B team which according to stats and history it isn't.

I've seen Pakistan's batting in T20s recently and I know that they struggle more against spinners than fast bowlers. Bhuvneshwar will be more dangerous to bat against than Bumrah for Pakistan's top order.

Too much hyperbole...Bumrah is the best bowler in the world across formats and he will be missed by any team. Pakistan is lucky not to be facing him in Asia cup

Pakistan's top order in T20s is known to be difficult to get out and Bumrah isn't known for taking wickets upfront against the top order. There's no doubt in my mind that if Bumrah played he wouldn't have done any better than he did against Pakistan last year.
 
I've watched enough cricket to know that Bumrah definitely isn't a wicket-taker. And stats prove my point. Since you're hellbent on comparing Shaheen and Bumrah's wicket-taking ability I'll be using Shaheen as a reference.

48.9% of Shaheen's wickets in T20s are against the opposition's top-order(1-3), whereas only 37.7% of Bumrah's wickets in T20s are against the opposition's top-order.

The same thread continues in ODI's where 46.8% of Shaheen's wickets are against the opposition's top-order. Whereas 35.5% of Bumrah's wickets are against the opposition's top-order.

To me wicket-taking ability means opening up the opposition's top order. Taking wickets against tail-enders is fine but that doesn't win you matches.

Take for example Shaheen's bowling against India last year. Imagine if Shaheen kept it tight outside off stump and didn't take out Rohit and KL Rahul early. Shaheen's stats would've been something like 15 runs for 0 wickets in three overs. Now imagine Shaheen came back in the last over and took 3 wickets for let's say 12 runs at which point India's innings is practically already over. Shaheen would've ended with stats of 4-0-27-3.

If what I've said above happened in reality India would've ended up with a much higher final score and might've won the match but Shaheen's stats would've suggested that he's a deadly wicket-taker when in reality he isn't in that situation.

Now replace Shaheen with Bumrah and the above situation is almost always the reality.



Unlike Bumrah, Babar's stats are good all-around. For example, Babar averages 52 at an SR of 90 against the top 5 ranked ODI teams. Bumrah for comparison averages 31.5 at an economy of 5(A great economy rate BTW) against the top 5 ranked ODI teams. On average Bumrah takes a lot more wickets against the opposition's tailenders in comparison to other top-ranked bowlers due to his lack of wicket-taking ability. If you add that element Bumrah's stats are even less impressive.

It won't take a genius to guess that Babar and Bumrah aren't comparable when it comes to their weaknesses.

Bumrah is a good bowler but you're greatly overrating him to make India's Asia Cup team seem like a B team which according to stats and history it isn't.

I've seen Pakistan's batting in T20s recently and I know that they struggle more against spinners than fast bowlers. Bhuvneshwar will be more dangerous to bat against than Bumrah for Pakistan's top order.



Pakistan's top order in T20s is known to be difficult to get out and Bumrah isn't known for taking wickets upfront against the top order. There's no doubt in my mind that if Bumrah played he wouldn't have done any better than he did against Pakistan last year.


You said Bumrah isn't a wicket taker but I just proved that he has got better strike rate, better avg and better economy than Shaheen Afridi. How he got stats like that if he is not a wicket taker? LOL

Now that you are cornered, you are simply clutching the straws and bringing some random percentage of wickets taken at top against the death. First of all, I am not even sure from where you got such percentages from. Second, wickets are wickets...who told you wickets taken at death in T20 games is not important. There is no denying that Bumrah is a better death bowler than with new ball, like Malinga was. But to say he is not a wicket taker just bcoz he don't take enough wickets with new ball is hilarious. That is called nitpicking. BTW, great Wasim Akram's most wickets were also during death overs.

Yes Shaheen Afridi's brilliant new ball spell won Pakistan the game against India. But his equally poor death bowling skill costed the game in semi finals. Matthew Wade would never hit Bumrah for 3 sixes. Have you ever thought about it?

Again, I used Babar Azam's stats to counter your logic. In my mind there is no doubt that Babar is a ATG. But you said Bumrah is a failure against Pakistan bcoz he avg 48 with the ball in 5 OD games. So at the same token Babar also avgs 31 against India in those 5 games...so he is a failure too? Not sure why you changing goal posts now and bringing his performance against other teams

Only an ignorant person or someone who don't understand cricket would say Bumrah will not be missed in the team. Actually him not playing is a huge concern for India. But if your worry is, Indian fans would give Bumrah didnt play excuse after losing against Pakistan and that is why downplaying him as a bowler...let me assure you that won't be the case. If Pakistan beat us...it will be fairplay to them.

Anyway, I have had enough of this debate...this is not the thread to discuss all these things.
 
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You said Bumrah isn't a wicket taker but I just proved that he has got better strike rate, better avg and better economy than Shaheen Afridi. How he got stats like that if he is not a wicket taker? LOL

Now that you are cornered, you are simply clutching the straws and bringing some random percentage of wickets taken at top against the death. First of all, I am not even sure from where you got such percentages from. Second, wickets are wickets...who told you wickets taken at death in T20 games is not important. There is no denying that Bumrah is a better death bowler than with new ball, like Malinga was. But to say he is not a wicket taker just bcoz he don't take enough wickets with new ball is hilarious. That is called nitpicking. BTW, great Wasim Akram's most wickets were also during death overs.

Yes Shaheen Afridi's brilliant new ball spell won Pakistan the game against India. But his equally poor death bowling skill costed the game in semi finals. Matthew Wade would never hit Bumrah for 3 sixes. Have you ever thought about it?

Again, I used Babar Azam's stats to counter your logic. In my mind there is no doubt that Babar is a ATG. But you said Bumrah is a failure against Pakistan bcoz he avg 48 with the ball in 5 OD games. So at the same token Babar also avgs 31 against India in those 5 games...so he is a failure too? Not sure why you changing goal posts now and bringing his performance against other teams

Only an ignorant person or someone who don't understand cricket would say Bumrah will not be missed in the team. Actually him not playing is a huge concern for India. But if your worry is, Indian fans would give Bumrah didnt play excuse after losing against Pakistan and that is why downplaying him as a bowler...let me assure you that won't be the case. If Pakistan beat us...it will be fairplay to them.

Anyway, I have had enough of this debate...this is not the thread to discuss all these things.

Shaheen didn't cost pakistan the game. 20 from 12 balls is going to be chased 95% of times. Shaheen still created a chance, which Hasan dropped.

Let alone Wade, Pat Cummins smashed Bumrah for 4 sixes in an over. When the opposition team has sufficient momentum, every bowler can be taken apart at death in t20s.
 
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Shaheen didn't cost pakistan the game. 20 from 12 balls is going to be chased 95% of times. Shaheen still created a chance, which Hasan dropped.

Let alone Wade, Pat Cummins smashed Bumrah for 4 sixes in an over. When the opposition team has sufficient momentum, every bowler can be taken apart at death in t20s.

Okay so that makes wicket taken in death overs in T20 cricket even more crucial. So not sure why [MENTION=156349]Hextro[/MENTION] thinks Bumrah is not a wicket taker since most of his wickets are in death overs.
 
Okay so that makes wicket taken in death overs in T20 cricket even more crucial. So not sure why [MENTION=156349]Hextro[/MENTION] thinks Bumrah is not a wicket taker since most of his wickets are in death overs.

No. I'm not sure where did that come from.

If you are saying wickets at death are more crucial than wickets upfront, then a resounding no!

T20 is a batsmen's game. The best way bowlers can make an impact is by wickets upfront.
 
How is this a D team? Only Bumrah is missing and Bumrah doesn't do well against Pakistan anyway. If anything I would say this is their optimal team.


There are other teams too in the Asia cup. Not just Pakistan. Now don't act surprised if or when Pakistan fails to reach yet another Asia cup final.
 
You said Bumrah isn't a wicket taker but I just proved that he has got better strike rate, better avg and better economy than Shaheen Afridi. How he got stats like that if he is not a wicket taker? LOL. Now that you are cornered, you are simply clutching the straws and bringing some random percentage of wickets taken at top against the death. First of all, I am not even sure from where you got such percentages from. Second, wickets are wickets.

I said Bumrah isn't a wicket-taker because he isn't a wicket-taker. He doesn't take wickets against the top order which makes his presence or the lack thereof irrelevant. This whole argument started because to took offense to me saying "Only Bumrah is missing and Bumrah doesn't do well against Pakistan anyway.".

I proved my point over and over again yet you continue to be stubborn. Bumrah bowls a length that won't consistently get top-order batsmen out which is why his absence from India's Asia cup squad is irrelevant. If anything India is better off without him.

I'll copy-paste the stats again because I think they flew over your head.

48.9% of Shaheen's wickets in T20s are against the opposition's top-order(1-3), whereas only 37.7% of Bumrah's wickets in T20s are against the opposition's top-order.

I got my stats from a site called howSTAT. You can look it up.

who told you wickets taken at death in T20 games is not important. There is no denying that Bumrah is a better death bowler than with new ball, like Malinga was. But to say he is not a wicket taker just bcoz he don't take enough wickets with new ball is hilarious. That is called nitpicking. BTW, great Wasim Akram's most wickets were also during death overs.

I literally said this in my response "Taking wickets against tail-enders is fine but that doesn't win you matches."

Taking out the top order of the opposition is infinitely better than taking out the tail.

You are correct that Wasim didn't take out the top order as much as someone as talented as him should've but that also puts into perspective how poor Bumrah has been. If you think Wasim Akram's percentage of wickets taken against the top order is bad then you must really hate Bumrah's percentage.

In ODI's 45.62% of Wasim's wickets are against the opposition's top-order. Whereas only 35.5% of Bumrah's wickets are against the opposition's top-order in ODI's.

Bhuvneshwar does all the hard work upfront while Bumrah waits to tee off the tail at the end of the innings. Bumrah will keep it tight but it isn't likely that he will take a wicket upfront as has been proven over and over again.

Yes Shaheen Afridi's brilliant new ball spell won Pakistan the game against India. But his equally poor death bowling skill costed the game in semi finals. Matthew Wade would never hit Bumrah for 3 sixes. Have you ever thought about it?

No, I haven't thought about it but your mention of it has made me think about it. You're correct that Matthew Wade would never hit Bumrah for 3 sixes but Cummins sure will hit Bumrah for 4 sixes as he has done in the past. Bumrah's spell against Pakistan in the opening match lost India the match whereas Shaheen's opening spell against Australia gave Pakistan an opening and Pakistan was able to take the game deep because of it. Had it been Bumrah opening the bowling against Australia in the Semi-final India would've likely lost by 8 or 10 wickets if going by stats. The best part of it is that unlike Shaheen Bumrah wouldn't have been hit for 3 sixes in an over. Unless Cummins came out to bat of course.

Thank you for bringing up the Semi-Final between Pakistan and Australia because it only further proves my point.

Again, I used Babar Azam's stats to counter your logic. In my mind there is no doubt that Babar is a ATG. But you said Bumrah is a failure against Pakistan bcoz he avg 48 with the ball in 5 OD games. So at the same token Babar also avgs 31 against India in those 5 games...so he is a failure too? Not sure why you changing goal posts now and bringing his performance against other teams

Babar's stats against top teams are better and Bumrah has poor stats against top teams that's why Babar and Bumrah aren't comparable. Also didn't Babar just help Pakistan win against India by 10 wickets? Bumrah didn't take a single wicket in that T20 match so what makes you think it will be any different this time around? Has Bumrah magically improved his bowling to the point where he can regularly take wickets against the top order?

Only an ignorant person or someone who don't understand cricket would say Bumrah will not be missed in the team. Actually him not playing is a huge concern for India. But if your worry is, Indian fans would give Bumrah didnt play excuse after losing against Pakistan and that is why downplaying him as a bowler...let me assure you that won't be the case. If Pakistan beat us...it will be fairplay to them.

Bumrah versus Pakistan's top order is like an unmovable object meeting a stoppable force. Of course that's just me exaggerating the situation but it isn't far off the truth. To sum it up Bumrah not playing likely isn't going to make a difference.

Anyway, I have had enough of this debate...this is not the thread to discuss all these things.

This is definitely the thread to discuss all these things. The entire topic of this thread is to discuss Kohli's return and Bumrah's omission.
 
There are other teams too in the Asia cup. Not just Pakistan. Now don't act surprised if or when Pakistan fails to reach yet another Asia cup final.

Not sure what this has to do with my comment. I know full well that there are other teams playing in the Asia Cup. I even commented about them.

Try not to reply with irrelevant comments.
 
Okay so that makes wicket taken in death overs in T20 cricket even more crucial. So not sure why [MENTION=156349]Hextro[/MENTION] thinks Bumrah is not a wicket taker since most of his wickets are in death overs.

Bumrah has a better Avg economy and Sr than Shaheen. So if Bumrah isnt a wkt taker, what is Shaheen?
 
Bumrah has a better Avg economy and Sr than Shaheen. So if Bumrah isnt a wkt taker, what is Shaheen?

A lot of people seem to have a problem with me saying that Bumrah doesn't have wicket-taking ability. How else do you guys want me to say it? Do you guys want me to describe Bumrah's lack of wicket-taking ability by calling him a tail-end enthusiast?

Bumrah has the second highest percentage of tail-end(8-11) wickets out of total career wickets for any bowler with over 100 ODI wickets ever.

I thought everyone knew that Bumrah doesn't take early wickets and banks on the tail but clearly I was mistaken.
 
Not sure what this has to do with my comment. I know full well that there are other teams playing in the Asia Cup. I even commented about them.

Try not to reply with irrelevant comments.


You quoted a post that was talking about India's overall chances of winning the Asia cup without Bumrah and replied with "he doesn't even perform against Pakistan anyway". As if beating Pakistan was the only way India could win the Asia cup when they couldn't even qualify for the finals for the last two editions by getting knocked out by Bangladesh. :91:

Now you see how silly and lame you sound?
 
You quoted a post that was talking about India's overall chances of winning the Asia cup without Bumrah and replied with "he doesn't even perform against Pakistan anyway". As if beating Pakistan was the only way India could win the Asia cup when they couldn't even qualify for the finals for the last two editions by getting knocked out by Bangladesh. :91:

Now you see how silly and lame you sound?

Pakistan's first match is against India so qualification doesn't matter, both teams will play each other no matter what. This is a forum primarily about discussing Pakistani cricket so I will comment in threads with that perspective. For example, if news comes out that Pant will miss the Asia Cup due to injury or something I will comment about how Pant missing out will affect Pakistan in its match.

If Sri Lanka announces their squad for the Asia Cup I will comment about how I think their squad will match up against Pakistan. I'm sure you get the point by now.

Lastly, It's not like I'm wrong when I say Bumrah doesn't do well against Pakistan and him not playing will barely change anything. Hell Bumrah doesn't have the best record against Bangladesh in T20s either if that's what you want to hear.
 
Bumrah has a better Avg economy and Sr than Shaheen. So if Bumrah isnt a wkt taker, what is Shaheen?

That is what I am trying to say since morning but brother [MENTION=156349]Hextro[/MENTION] is adamant to prove Bumrah is not a wicket taker. How can a bowler be not a wicket taker with 19 strike rate?

Every expert around the world unanimously agrees that Bumrah is worlds best fast bowler all formats combined but guess they know nothing infront of experts we have here. Its hilarious to what extent people go.
 
It is a strong indian team, definitely favourites to win the trophy. Even in the WC India will be hard to beat. I think in Asia cup we can realistically expect an Ind-Pak final.

Unfortunately, we don't play on paper. Starting with Kohli is like starting with 10 players. India will end up making too many compromises to accommodate "seniors". The entire balance will get screwed up.
 
That is what I am trying to say since morning but brother [MENTION=156349]Hextro[/MENTION] is adamant to prove Bumrah is not a wicket taker. How can a bowler be not a wicket taker with 19 strike rate?

Every expert around the world unanimously agrees that Bumrah is worlds best fast bowler all formats combined but guess they know nothing infront of experts we have here. Its hilarious to what extent people go.

Only reason he may not have wickets in odd matches is due to the fact they consciously try to see him off. In T20 without attacking fields you can't prize out wicket unless conditions are suitable.
 
A lot of people seem to have a problem with me saying that Bumrah doesn't have wicket-taking ability. How else do you guys want me to say it? Do you guys want me to describe Bumrah's lack of wicket-taking ability by calling him a tail-end enthusiast?

Bumrah has the second highest percentage of tail-end(8-11) wickets out of total career wickets for any bowler with over 100 ODI wickets ever.

I thought everyone knew that Bumrah doesn't take early wickets and banks on the tail but clearly I was mistaken.


You do realize in T20 only 4 overs can be bowled usually 1+1+2 or 1+3 or 2+2. It is not that hard to see off 12 balls to go after others. India has few options with death bowling. Hence Bumrah was predominantly used in the back end.
 
On topic, our selectors are dumb. In the month of September, UAE wickets will assist seamers. We have seen this in IPL both in 2020 and last year. How can we go with only 3 seamers and that to two of them being rookee?

Rohit Sharma's obsession with Avesh Khan and Ashwin is cringeworthy. It reminds me of Dhoni's obsession with Ishant Sharma and Chawla :))

Shami should have cake walked into this team, especially the way he bowled in IPL and now since (wicket taker) Bumrah is unfit. Also, a case could have been made for Siraj who was bowling beautifully in West Indies and that too at high pace.

Also, what is the point of Dinesh Karthik? What are they trying to achieve? Yes he had a great IPL in India but in UAE leg of IPL he avgs 15. We could have easily roped in Shreyas Iyer. Though he has problem witn bouncers but in Dubai ball wont go over knee heights. Shreyas would have been deadlg here, especially against teams like SL, BD and Afg who will rely heavily on spinners.

Pata nehi kaisa selector hai hamare paas :facepalm:
 
You do realize in T20 only 4 overs can be bowled usually 1+1+2 or 1+3 or 2+2. It is not that hard to see off 12 balls to go after others. India has few options with death bowling. Hence Bumrah was predominantly used in the back end.

That logic was used for Amir and he ended up being dropped. The "batsmen are seeing him off that's why he can't take wickets" excuse doesn't hold up for Bumrah. There're a lot of bowlers around the world that batsmen are "seeing off" yet they still manage to get wickets because they either swing the bowl or they bowl testing lengths upfront. Bumrah does neither he bowls a safe length that the batsman can easily defend.

Bumrah has one of the lowest percentages of wickets taken against the top order(1-3) in T20s in the world.
 
That is what I am trying to say since morning but brother [MENTION=156349]Hextro[/MENTION] is adamant to prove Bumrah is not a wicket taker. How can a bowler be not a wicket taker with 19 strike rate?

Every expert around the world unanimously agrees that Bumrah is worlds best fast bowler all formats combined but guess they know nothing infront of experts we have here. Its hilarious to what extent people go.

If he can't take wickets against the top order he isn't as good as you want people to think he is.

:bumrah
 
On topic, our selectors are dumb. In the month of September, UAE wickets will assist seamers. We have seen this in IPL both in 2020 and last year. How can we go with only 3 seamers and that to two of them being rookee?

Rohit Sharma's obsession with Avesh Khan and Ashwin is cringeworthy. It reminds me of Dhoni's obsession with Ishant Sharma and Chawla :))

Shami should have cake walked into this team, especially the way he bowled in IPL and now since (wicket taker) Bumrah is unfit. Also, a case could have been made for Siraj who was bowling beautifully in West Indies and that too at high pace.

Also, what is the point of Dinesh Karthik? What are they trying to achieve? Yes he had a great IPL in India but in UAE leg of IPL he avgs 15. We could have easily roped in Shreyas Iyer. Though he has problem witn bouncers but in Dubai ball wont go over knee heights. Shreyas would have been deadlg here, especially against teams like SL, BD and Afg who will rely heavily on spinners.

Pata nehi kaisa selector hai hamare paas :facepalm:

It is not Rohit's obsession. There is another person in the team management whose name starts with R.

He has a strange obsession with bowlers who can bat a bit. It doesn't matter if that bowler is actually an avg bowler, he will get precendence over a better bowler who cannot bat
 
If he can't take wickets against the top order he isn't as good as you want people to think he is.

:bumrah

Which format are you talking about? What is your minimum qualification result?

Please post the link.
 
Should I copy-paste sections of a comment I already wrote or are you gonna read it yourself?

You didn't post a link to your stats.

Anyways.

Bhuvi is the person whose role is to take wickets with the new ball. 58.9 per cent of his wickets are 1-3. But his wickets against 4 to7 is 27.4 per cent only.

Now Bumrah's role is to stop runs and take out the power hitters later.

So they play their roles.
 
You didn't post a link to your stats.

Anyways.

Bhuvi is the person whose role is to take wickets with the new ball. 58.9 per cent of his wickets are 1-3. But his wickets against 4 to7 is 27.4 per cent only.

Now Bumrah's role is to stop runs and take out the power hitters later.

So they play their roles.

I linked the site which is more than enough.

That's what I've been saying this whole time Bhuvneshwar is infinitely more dangerous than Bumrah for Pakistan. Any old bowler can come in for India and fill the Bumrah role. It would be better for India if it plays a spinner in Bumrah's place.
 
Okay so that makes wicket taken in death overs in T20 cricket even more crucial. So not sure why [MENTION=156349]Hextro[/MENTION] thinks Bumrah is not a wicket taker since most of his wickets are in death overs.

Bumrah is a brilliant bowler and one of the best any team would love to have him !.
 
That logic was used for Amir and he ended up being dropped. The "batsmen are seeing him off that's why he can't take wickets" excuse doesn't hold up for Bumrah. There're a lot of bowlers around the world that batsmen are "seeing off" yet they still manage to get wickets because they either swing the bowl or they bowl testing lengths upfront. Bumrah does neither he bowls a safe length that the batsman can easily defend.

Bumrah has one of the lowest percentages of wickets taken against the top order(1-3) in T20s in the world.

Bumrah hardly plays T20 internationals. With the limited he played 38% of his wickets are top three batsmen. Malinga has picked 28% of the top 3 wickets. I am not going to judge Malinga based on that. Death bowling is the hardest bowling not new ball bowling where batsman is circumspect often times other than England. India has guys like Chahar, Bhuvi, Shami, Siraj for new ball bowling. There is not a whole lot of bowlers that can do death bowling.
 
I linked the site which is more than enough.

That's what I've been saying this whole time Bhuvneshwar is infinitely more dangerous than Bumrah for Pakistan. Any old bowler can come in for India and fill the Bumrah role. It would be better for India if it plays a spinner in Bumrah's place.


You are completely wrong lol Death bowling is the hardest bowling. If a team needs 20 runs in 2 overs you need someone to bowl, i know who i would go to in the world.
 
You didn't post a link to your stats.

Anyways.

Bhuvi is the person whose role is to take wickets with the new ball. 58.9 per cent of his wickets are 1-3. But his wickets against 4 to7 is 27.4 per cent only.

Now Bumrah's role is to stop runs and take out the power hitters later.

So they play their roles.

I don't think he dind't do any analysis. Malinga probably the gold standard for T20 fast bowling often bowls only in death.
 
Bumrah hardly plays T20 internationals. With the limited he played 38% of his wickets are top three batsmen. Malinga has picked 28% of the top 3 wickets. I am not going to judge Malinga based on that. Death bowling is the hardest bowling not new ball bowling where batsman is circumspect often times other than England. India has guys like Chahar, Bhuvi, Shami, Siraj for new ball bowling. There is not a whole lot of bowlers that can do death bowling.

Who said anything about death bowling? The difference is that Bumrah doesn't dismiss the top order at the start at the middle or at the death.
 
ICC Hall of Famer Mahela Jayawardena has cast his eye over some of the key players in India's squad for the upcoming Asia Cup, shared how he’d get the biggest impact from Virat Kohli and discussed a left-field option to partner skipper Rohit Sharma at the top of the batting order.

India named a strong 15-player squad earlier this week for the six-team tournament that starts later this month, with pace spearhead Jasprit Bumrah and fellow quick Harshal Patel the only big names missing – both due to injury.

Former skipper Kohli and fellow top-order performer KL Rahul were among the players recalled for the UAE-based event, with India's first match of the tournament coming against arch-rival Pakistan at Dubai International Cricket Stadium on August 28.

The Asia Cup will play a vital role in deciding which players will feature for India at the T20 World Cup in Australia later this year.

What to do with Virat Kohli?

Kohli has only made four T20I appearances for his country this calendar year and was among a host of big names to sit out India's recent white-ball tour of the Caribbean against the West Indies.

The 33-year-old struggled for runs during the recent IPL tournament, managing just two half-centuries and a total of 341 runs from 16 innings for Royal Challengers Bangalore.

But Jayawardena - who saw Kohli up close during the IPL via his role as coach of Mumbai Indians – echoed the sentiments of Ricky Ponting recently by saying the experienced right-hander must be given every opportunity to find his best form during the Asia Cup in a hope he can travel to Australia later in the year in good touch.

"It is unfortunate what Virat is going through right now at the moment, but he is a quality player," Jayawardena told Sanjana Ganesan on the latest episode of The ICC Review.

"I believe Virat has the tools to come out of it (the form slump). He has done that in the past as well and I’m sure he’ll come through this.

"Class is permanent and form is temporary."

Is lack of match practice a concern for KL Rahul?

While Kohli has only played sporadically for his country of late, regular T20 opener KL Rahul has appeared even less as he has battled injuries and then picked up Covid-19 recently when closing in on a return.

Rahul looked to be in good touch at the IPL where he scored 616 runs for Lucknow Super Giants, but Jayawardena is worried that his recent lack of cricket at the highest level will work against him.

"That (Rahul's lack of cricket) would be a concern for India," Jayawardena noted.

"He has been out for a little while since the IPL, so having game time is quite crucial especially out there in the middle.

"The sooner he can get some game time and get that confidence back, is always going to help him, as well as the national team."

What other options do India have with their top-order?

If Rahul doesn't return to his best during the Asia Cup as the T20 World Cup closes in, Jayawardena supports India considering a left-field option to open the batting alongside skipper Rohit.

Jayawardena knows how good Rishabh Pant is during the middle and late overs of a T20I, but is confident the talented 24-year-old can be just as valuable at the top of the order.

Pant has opened the batting at T20I level just twice for India, but Jayawardena knows the importance of having a strong left-hand, right-hand combination at the top of a batting order.

"Even though he (Pant) hasn’t done that (open the batting) much in domestic cricket, he has the capacity to do that," Jayawardena said.

"Wherever he bats, you’re not going to change his game. He is going to be a very natural player so yes, it is an option (for Pant to open)."

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/2736084
 
Loss of Bumrah is a blow for India. He is their best T20 bowler.

Another blow is self-inflicted. Kuldeep has a wood over Pakistani batsmen. Even otherwise he has one of the best T20 record against all teams. His ER is below 7.5 against all the sides in T20. Avge 14 ER 6.89 Strike rate 12.
 
Yeah, that's a really low percentage.

Malinga has 28%. He is probably the best T20 fast bowler of all time. He is in the mould of Malinga. Grew up under the tutelage of Malinga. Because of Bumrah bowling 3 overs in the back end teams take chance against other bowlers and lose wickets. He creates a cascading effect. 4 bankable overs when on song. That leaves opposition to do the damage in the other 16 overs. Why do you think batting stops at 3 for teams. Maxwell, Miller, Buttler are lesser players just because they bat down the order?
 
Not if your partner has 58.90 per cent.

More often than not Bumrah opens the bowling with Bhuvneshwar.

Bumrah takes fewer wickets because his bowling isn't very threatening up front which is why he depends on his death bowling more than most bowlers. There's no shame in admitting this. This doesn't make Bumrah a bad bowler, it just means that he's limited in what he can do.
 
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