BJP Gujarat disturbing profile picture across their all social media platforms against Muslims

[Hermoine Green]

How any one can defend it??

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Before people do whataboutism and make stupid arguments like oh the arrested were Muslims so this isnt wrong depiction.
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Please go and see photos of the arrested. Not one of them wore a skull cap or had Islamic beard.

So the cartoon actually doesnt depict any of the accused/arrested and is a clear dog whistle

 

[Justcrazy]

BJP has been completely hijacked by RSS , this RSS has no morality, if to achieve their goals they have to sell their females they would do that.

Their father Sarvakar wrote mercy petitions to British and engraved himself as the biggest bootlicker of British

Mark my words , this BJP , under RSS influence can stoop to any level , I mean ANY LEVEL.

 

[Pakpak]

Imagine if they did that in the US against black people, almost every sane person would be calling it out.

Don't worry our BJP member friends here will come defending this as well

 

[ElRaja]

not surprising, India sinking further down the rabbit hole of hate every day.

 

[Zaz]

This is disgusting and shameful

 

[Cover Drive Six]

What's wrong? They have killed 60 innocent people.

 

[Hermoine Green]

Imagine if they did that in the US against black people, almost every sane person would be calling it out.

Don't worry our BJP member friends here will come defending this as well

Twitter have now deleted their picture though.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

What's wrong? They have killed 60 innocent people.

Who is they?

The people in the cartoon do not resemble any of the actual accused so where is the they coming from?

 

[cricketjoshila]

These guys killed 56 people in bomb blasts. The court has sentenced them to death by hanging. BJP Gujarat has put out the same fact.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Who is they?

The people in the cartoon do not resemble any of the actual accused so where is the they coming from?

Do you know all the accused by their faces?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Imagine if they did that in the US against black people, almost every sane person would be calling it out.

Don't worry our BJP member friends here will come defending this as well

Did they kill 56 people in a bomb blast?

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Do you know all the accused by their faces?

Yes there are several news article where their faces are plastered. Into that hard to find. They aren’t wearing skull caps or have long beards

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

These guys killed 56 people in bomb blasts. The court has sentenced them to death by hanging. BJP Gujarat has put out the same fact.

Again who are these guys? None of the pictufes of the accused in the media have long beards or skull caps.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

https://twitter.com/meghbulletin/status/1494560236476452867?s=21

These are the people accused.

Vast majority do not have any long Islamic beards (their beards are akin more to Kohli) and none are wearing skull caps.

But the beards in the cartoon are much longer (akin to what a religious Muslim imam may have) and all are wearing skulls caps…

So unless people here are blind I don’t see much resemblance.

But obv par for the course that people will defend it lol. So predictable. BJP could literally masaccre hundreds of people and these shameless, morally bankrupt people will find a way to defend it. (Oh wait that’s already been done #2002)

 

[Syed1]

Modi hai tu mumkin hai. Single handedly destroying the fabric of India. A thousand ISI agents cannot achieve what this guy is achieving on his own. May he rule for next two decades Inshallah.

 

[Lego20]

What's wrong? They have killed 60 innocent people.

But but look at the cap and beard.

 

[Lego20]

https://twitter.com/meghbulletin/status/1494560236476452867?s=21

These are the people accused.

Vast majority do not have any long Islamic beards (their beards are akin more to Kohli) and none are wearing skull caps.

But the beards in the cartoon are much longer (akin to what a religious Muslim imam may have) and all are wearing skulls caps…

So unless people here are blind I don’t see much resemblance.

But obv par for the course that people will defend it lol. So predictable. BJP could literally masaccre hundreds of people and these shameless, morally bankrupt people will find a way to defend it. (Oh wait that’s already been done #2002)

These pictures are mug shots. So ofcourse no cap. Beards are visible.

 

[Lego20]

Before people do whataboutism and make stupid arguments like oh the arrested were Muslims so this isnt wrong depiction.
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Please go and see photos of the arrested. Not one of them wore a skull cap or had Islamic beard.

So the cartoon actually doesnt depict any of the accused/arrested and is a clear dog whistle

You are the one doing whataboutism. These people killed 60 inncocent people and their real target was modi. Instead of condemning and trying to address these elements, you say "what about the cap and beard"

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

These pictures are mug shots. So ofcourse no cap. Beards are visible.

Do you even know what mugshots are?

Their whole faces including hair is visible but I don’t see many even closely resembling the cartoon.

Was Adobe photoshop used to remove the beard and cap in mugshot?

 

[Kroll]

Why can't the BJP just condemn these people instead of putting stereotypical caricatures of a religious group?

That's what posters are alluding to. If BJP supporters on this thread can't see that then I can't help you.

India has fast become a backward rancid cesspit of fascism and hate.

 

[Zaz]

Why can't the BJP just condemn these people instead of putting stereotypical caricatures of a religious group?

That's what posters are alluding to. If BJP supporters on this thread can't see that then I can't help you.

India has fast become a backward rancid cesspit of fascism and hate.

This Why put muslim caricatures out there? And all this from a ruling party

The message this image sends out is quite clear, that muslims of india should be put to death

Its disgusting cricketjoshila is defending this abominable act from people in charge of ruling the country but im not surprised from him anymore

 

[cricketjoshila]

https://twitter.com/meghbulletin/status/1494560236476452867?s=21

These are the people accused.

Vast majority do not have any long Islamic beards (their beards are akin more to Kohli) and none are wearing skull caps.

But the beards in the cartoon are much longer (akin to what a religious Muslim imam may have) and all are wearing skulls caps…

So unless people here are blind I don’t see much resemblance.

But obv par for the course that people will defend it lol. So predictable. BJP could literally masaccre hundreds of people and these shameless, morally bankrupt people will find a way to defend it. (Oh wait that’s already been done #2002)

Many of them have beards. Mug shot by police are usually not taken with skull caps.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This Why put muslim caricatures out there? And all this from a ruling party

The message this image sends out is quite clear, that muslims of india should be put to death

Its disgusting cricketjoshila is defending this abominable act from people in charge of ruling the country but im not surprised from him anymore

These guys killed 56 indians. I have no sympathy for them.

Ofcourse you are more worried about the portrayal of these terrorists than the actual act that killed innocent people.

Its not the ruling party's fault that all the convicts in this case are muslims.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Many of them have beards. Mug shot by police are usually not taken with skull caps.

They do not have full on beards

 

[Pakpak]

Modi hai tu mumkin hai. Single handedly destroying the fabric of India. A thousand ISI agents cannot achieve what this guy is achieving on his own. May he rule for next two decades Inshallah.

100% this

Kashmir wasn't ever mentioned for years, India was all at peace and we were humiliated at every turn by being reminded of Kargil (some peaks we still hold but anyway), since the Great One's anointment:

-Brought Kashmir back into the international focus the last few years
-Got slapped down during the Feb airstrikes fiasco that they won't dream off doing anytime soon, an absolute gift they gave us and got humiliated infront of the entire world and we finally found out how much fake fibs their media and Government actually puts out that its made me question so many of their past 'victories'
-Has completely ruined India's sectarian fabric, the fact it wasn't ruined after he butchered thousands of Muslims in Gujarat you'd have to think he'd have to screw up massively to fire up India's sectarian conflicts and amazingly he's done it from the racist citizenship laws to targeting even the most boot licker Indian celebs such as Shahrukh Khan who would always remind everyone how great Indian Muslims have it
-From beef lynch mobs, to Muslims being killed by Police, to Hijab by insulted and now openly being banned to open threats of genocides....soon someone will rise up to face them as unfortunate as that would be for South Asia's peace it would be something not even ISI have ever managed to do in India
-To pro BJP groups being exposed for setting up hundreds of fake news portals around the world to attack Pakistan
-To alienating all his neighbours
-And to being slapped silly by China at the border
-The countless, COUTNLESS, COVID deaths he never did anything about

Luckily I myself have best friends who are Indian (Tamil) and hate this guy more than I ever could

He's managed to put India into daily sectarian chaos and gave our army a much needed win 2 years ago by showing our people again how much we still them to defend us from India. This guy would absolutely be the best ISI agent that ISI could ever dream off.

An absolute shame, any other leader than this butcher and we could have peace with India.

Not a slight on any Indian from me as I know so MANY Indians (Muslim and non-Muslim) who hate this guy. Somehow bizarrely Indians on PP love him.

 

[ExplicitAI]

This is what colonisation has done, 1947 really did cause a lot of damage.

 

[RexRex]

It looks like Twitter has deleted the inflammatory pic, whereas the BJP profile on the Koo app still has it. Koo is India's version of Twitter, for those who don't know.

 

[Lego20]

Aww crocodile tears. And seems like you are struggling to understand the purpose of the thread which isn’t entirely surprising.

The thread ISNT about the attack or even the arrests. That happened years ago and you can go back and check condemnations made at the time. The story on this thread isn’t the attack itself. How hard is that to understand?

Zero tears for you or those who offended by that pic. Picture shows the fact that all perpetrators were muslims. Face it. What should offend you is why are so many muslims found involved in violent terrorism and not why people identify them correctly as muslims.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Zero tears for you or those who offended by that pic. Picture shows the fact that all perpetrators were muslims. Face it. What should offend you is why are so many muslims found involved in violent terrorism and not why people identify them correctly as muslims.

When I see the faces and look of the perpetrators and the faces of the people in the cartoon; they do not look similar at all. Hence why it is a propaganda and a joke lol. I totally condemn the perpetrators of this several years old incident but the cartoon is sadly not based in reality and a dog whistle. But I guess you’re the type it was meant for so enjoy it lol.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Zero tears for you or those who offended by that pic. Picture shows the fact that all perpetrators were muslims. Face it. What should offend you is why are so many muslims found involved in violent terrorism and not why people identify them correctly as muslims.

Pretty rich and quite shameless of a bigotry from someone representing a country where 50,000, Yes that’s FIFTY THOUSAND, baby girls are killed or aborted EVERY MONTH - Yes, that’s EVERY MONTH.

What kinda filthy practice is this?


Can there be a biggest terrorist activity than this in the entire world. No!

https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headli...s-elizabeth-vargas-explores-indias-gendercide

but either way,

….. when we ask about TERRORISM and Islam, tell me,

"Who started the first world war?
Not Muslims!!
Who started the second world war?
Not Muslims!!
Who killed 6 million Jews in the Holocaust ?
Not Muslims.
Who killed about 20 million Aborigines in Australia ?
Not Muslims!!
Who bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki with the nukes? Not Muslims!!
Who killed more than 100 million Indians in North America?
Not Muslims!!
Who killed more than 50 million Indians in South America?
Not Muslims!!
Who took about 180 million African people as slaves and 88% of them died and were thrown overboard into Atlantic Ocean?
Not Muslims!!
No, NOT Muslims!!

 

[Itachi]

Pretty rich and quite shameless of a bigotry from someone representing a country where 50,000, Yes that’s FIFTY THOUSAND, baby girls are killed or aborted EVERY MONTH - Yes, that’s EVERY MONTH.

What kinda filthy practice is this?


Can there be a biggest terrorist activity than this in the entire world. No!

https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headli...s-elizabeth-vargas-explores-indias-gendercide

but either way,

….. when we ask about TERRORISM and Islam, tell me,

"Who started the first world war?
Not Muslims!!
Who started the second world war?
Not Muslims!!
Who killed 6 million Jews in the Holocaust ?
Not Muslims.
Who killed about 20 million Aborigines in Australia ?
Not Muslims!!
Who bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki with the nukes? Not Muslims!!
Who killed more than 100 million Indians in North America?
Not Muslims!!
Who killed more than 50 million Indians in South America?
Not Muslims!!
Who took about 180 million African people as slaves and 88% of them died and were thrown overboard into Atlantic Ocean?
Not Muslims!!
No, NOT Muslims!!

So? Just because some other entities have blood in their hands we shouldn't condemn Islamic terrorism?

Are you thus justifying the act of Islamic terrorists by stating that since others have done worse, they are angel?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pretty rich and quite shameless of a bigotry from someone representing a country where 50,000, Yes that’s FIFTY THOUSAND, baby girls are killed or aborted EVERY MONTH - Yes, that’s EVERY MONTH.

What kinda filthy practice is this?


Can there be a biggest terrorist activity than this in the entire world. No!

https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headli...s-elizabeth-vargas-explores-indias-gendercide

but either way,

….. when we ask about TERRORISM and Islam, tell me,

"Who started the first world war?
Not Muslims!!
Who started the second world war?
Not Muslims!!
Who killed 6 million Jews in the Holocaust ?
Not Muslims.
Who killed about 20 million Aborigines in Australia ?
Not Muslims!!
Who bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki with the nukes? Not Muslims!!
Who killed more than 100 million Indians in North America?
Not Muslims!!
Who killed more than 50 million Indians in South America?
Not Muslims!!
Who took about 180 million African people as slaves and 88% of them died and were thrown overboard into Atlantic Ocean?
Not Muslims!!
No, NOT Muslims!!

What has female infanticide or foeticide got to do here?

You seem to be living in history. 100 years back. All that have already been condemned.

Why not condemn muslim terrorism? Muslims carried out this act where 56 people died. Thats the fact.

And no, i don't call this islamic terrorism, because the Prophet(pbuh) didn't ask his followers to kill innocent people by such ghastly cowardly acts.

 

[Ashmal]

How any one can defend it??

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Well...didn't take too long for the usual suspects to come out and endorse this.

No point arguing with these bunch of shameless boot-lickers, they will defend even a genocide if it's been done by their demi-god

 

[IAJ]

Did they kill 56 people in a bomb blast?

The irony is that the CM who killed more than thousand muslims is the PM today.

 

[Lego20]

The irony is that the CM who killed more than thousand muslims is the PM today.

Why do you mention only Muslims were killed? Hindus were also killed in the incident (by Muslims), some of them for no reason or provocation.

P. S.: Not this again:
- Modi has been exonerated by SCoI even while Congress was in power
- The incident was started by Muslims by burning a train full of innocent Hindu pilgrims
- This led to riots in which both Hindus and Muslims lost lives

 

[IAJ]

Why do you mention only Muslims were killed? Hindus were also killed in the incident (by Muslims), some of them for no reason or provocation.

P. S.: Not this again:
- Modi has been exonerated by SCoI even while Congress was in power
- The incident was started by Muslims by burning a train full of innocent Hindu pilgrims
- This led to riots in which both Hindus and Muslims lost lives

All killings of innocents should be condemned. I specifically mentioned muslims because among others a a senior police officer said in the court that Modi, one day before the riots started, said in a metting that the muslim community needed to be taught a lesson, and rest is history...

Anyways, don't want to start a long discussion on this now. Eventually everything will be sorted out.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Why do you mention only Muslims were killed? Hindus were also killed in the incident (by Muslims), some of them for no reason or provocation.

P. S.: Not this again:
- Modi has been exonerated by SCoI even while Congress was in power
- The incident was started by Muslims by burning a train full of innocent Hindu pilgrims
- This led to riots in which both Hindus and Muslims lost lives

Incident was started with Hindu mobs burning a mosque.

 

[Sidilicious]

These guys killed 56 indians. I have no sympathy for them.

Ofcourse you are more worried about the portrayal of these terrorists than the actual act that killed innocent people.

Its not the ruling party's fault that all the convicts in this case are muslims.

There was no need of having a generic muslim stereotype and hanging it. It depicts that all muslims will be hung.

BJP should have put the picture of the actual person killed or something stating that we will hang those who try to harm India.

Answer me seriously, next time an hindu guy anywhere is convicted for raping, what would you say if a similar photo with a guy wearing an orange clothes and a modi like beard is shown? Would it not depict that all hindus are rapists?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It looks like Twitter has deleted the inflammatory pic, whereas the BJP profile on the Koo app still has it. Koo is India's version of Twitter, for those who don't know.

But RSS supporters on here have defended the picture, why has Twitter deleted it, and why call it inflamatory? Hmmm...

 

[cricketjoshila]

The irony is that the CM who killed more than thousand muslims is the PM today.

Who told you this?

 

[MenInG]

Who told you this?

Old article.

==

he world's biggest election began yesterday: one in which more than half a billion Indians are set to turn out to vote over the next six weeks. Polls suggest that the Congress party will take an unprecedented pummelling – which makes Narendra Modi, leader of the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata party, frontrunner to be India's next prime minister.

Modi bears a responsibility for some of the worst religious violence ever seen in independent India – but there's nothing like looking like a winner to attract apologists. And the standard apology for Modi comes in two parts. First, there is normally an acknowledgement that the chief minister of Gujarat bears some vague responsibility for the orgy of killing and rape that engulfed his state in 2002 – but, um, wasn't that all a long time ago? And hasn't he behaved himself since – or, as the FT put it yesterday, done his best to "downplay tensions" between Hindus and Muslims? This is followed by pointing to Gujarat's rapid economic development and an appeal: shouldn't the rest of India enjoy some Modinomics? Or, as Gurcharan Das, the former head of Procter & Gamble India, put it in a piece for the Times of India last weekend: "There will always be a trade-off in values at the ballot box and those who place secularism above demographic dividend are wrong and elitist."

Given the enormity of the allegations against Modi, this is frankly pathetic. First, the Gujarat massacres have not safely been consigned to the past; whatever the claims of his supporters either in India or over here (such as the Labour MP Barry Gardiner who invited him to Britain last year), there has been no "clean chit" for Modi. Courts in India are still hearing allegations against him. And second, the much-talked about Gujarati model may have brought lots of money to the state, but it has ended up in relatively few hands, without yielding improvements in health, infant mortality, or even workers' wages.

Let's look at the carnage of 2002 first. On 27 February that year, a train coach carrying Hindu pilgrims caught fire in Godhra station in Gujarat. Fifty-eight people died. Within hours and without a shred of evidence, Modi declared that the Pakistani secret services had been to blame; he then had the charred bodies paraded in the main city of Ahmedabad; and let his own party support a state-wide strike for three days. What followed was mass bloodshed: 1,000 dead on official estimates, more than 2,000 by independent tallies. The vast majority of those who died were Muslim. Mobs of men dragged women and young girls out of their homes and raped them. In 2007, the investigative magazine Tehelka recorded boasts from some of the ringleaders. One, Babu Bajrangi, boasted of how he slit open the womb of a pregnant woman.

When BJP supporters try to dismiss the pogrom of 2002 as ancient and contested history, what they are trying to erase is that epic, shameful violence. Other allegations have been made about Modi's direct involvement in the carnage, but the ones I have listed above aren't contested by any serious observer.

Now try this thought experiment. Imagine if, in the wake of 7/7, which killed 52 civilians, Ken Livingstone had not behaved with his commendable dignity, but had immediately blamed the tube attacks on jihadis; paraded the bodies up and down Pall Mall; and then declared a capital-wide strike. As Suresh Grover, the human-rights campaigner working for the families of three British citizens who were killed in Gujarat in 2002, puts it, he would have probably been arrested for wilful neglect of duty, hate speech and for inciting violence. Modi, by contrast, said a couple of years ago that he felt the same pain over the bloodshed as a passenger in a car that has just run over a puppy. He referred to the refugee camps set up to shelter some of the 200,000 Muslims who lost their homes as "baby-making factories". And his minister for women is now serving 28 years in prison for murder and conspiracy to murder.

All of this is routinely summed up in journalistic shorthand that refers to the chief minister as being a "polarising" or "controversial" figure.

As for the so-called Gujarati development model, there isn't one. The state has enjoyed growth but very little development. Under Modi, it has lagged behind the other major states in India in tackling infant mortality, in reducing poverty, and in increasing literacy. In 2006, there were even more undernourished children in Gujarat than in 1993, which Modi has claimed is because middle-class girls are "beauty-conscious".

Big businesses back Modi, but that is because he gives them so much. As a string of reports from the independent Comptroller and Auditor General, among other bodies, points out, his administration has sold off public land dirt cheap to industrialists, provided companies with energy at below-market prices and given them loans at an interest rate of 0.1%. They in return have provided him with sponsorship and rides in their private jets. As Atul Sood, a professor at Jawaharlal Nehru University in New Delhi, has written: "The governance model of Gujarat is all about aggressive implementation of development on behalf of the big private investor. It is a model that works for the rich and against the poor."

And this somehow represents an improvement for India.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...endra-modi-massacre-next-prime-minister-india

 

[cricketjoshila]

There was no need of having a generic muslim stereotype and hanging it. It depicts that all muslims will be hung.

BJP should have put the picture of the actual person killed or something stating that we will hang those who try to harm India.

Answer me seriously, next time an hindu guy anywhere is convicted for raping, what would you say if a similar photo with a guy wearing an orange clothes and a modi like beard is shown? Would it not depict that all hindus are rapists?

For your last paragraph

https://images.app.goo.gl/KbiCEkLVuWZAHTpu8

https://images.app.goo.gl/fux4QM7NKm9rBeWk6

Your opinion?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Old article.

==

he world's biggest election began yesterday: one in which more than half a billion Indians are set to turn out to vote over the next six weeks. Polls suggest that the Congress party will take an unprecedented pummelling – which makes Narendra Modi, leader of the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata party, frontrunner to be India's next prime minister.

Modi bears a responsibility for some of the worst religious violence ever seen in independent India – but there's nothing like looking like a winner to attract apologists. And the standard apology for Modi comes in two parts. First, there is normally an acknowledgement that the chief minister of Gujarat bears some vague responsibility for the orgy of killing and rape that engulfed his state in 2002 – but, um, wasn't that all a long time ago? And hasn't he behaved himself since – or, as the FT put it yesterday, done his best to "downplay tensions" between Hindus and Muslims? This is followed by pointing to Gujarat's rapid economic development and an appeal: shouldn't the rest of India enjoy some Modinomics? Or, as Gurcharan Das, the former head of Procter & Gamble India, put it in a piece for the Times of India last weekend: "There will always be a trade-off in values at the ballot box and those who place secularism above demographic dividend are wrong and elitist."

Given the enormity of the allegations against Modi, this is frankly pathetic. First, the Gujarat massacres have not safely been consigned to the past; whatever the claims of his supporters either in India or over here (such as the Labour MP Barry Gardiner who invited him to Britain last year), there has been no "clean chit" for Modi. Courts in India are still hearing allegations against him. And second, the much-talked about Gujarati model may have brought lots of money to the state, but it has ended up in relatively few hands, without yielding improvements in health, infant mortality, or even workers' wages.

Let's look at the carnage of 2002 first. On 27 February that year, a train coach carrying Hindu pilgrims caught fire in Godhra station in Gujarat. Fifty-eight people died. Within hours and without a shred of evidence, Modi declared that the Pakistani secret services had been to blame; he then had the charred bodies paraded in the main city of Ahmedabad; and let his own party support a state-wide strike for three days. What followed was mass bloodshed: 1,000 dead on official estimates, more than 2,000 by independent tallies. The vast majority of those who died were Muslim. Mobs of men dragged women and young girls out of their homes and raped them. In 2007, the investigative magazine Tehelka recorded boasts from some of the ringleaders. One, Babu Bajrangi, boasted of how he slit open the womb of a pregnant woman.

When BJP supporters try to dismiss the pogrom of 2002 as ancient and contested history, what they are trying to erase is that epic, shameful violence. Other allegations have been made about Modi's direct involvement in the carnage, but the ones I have listed above aren't contested by any serious observer.

Now try this thought experiment. Imagine if, in the wake of 7/7, which killed 52 civilians, Ken Livingstone had not behaved with his commendable dignity, but had immediately blamed the tube attacks on jihadis; paraded the bodies up and down Pall Mall; and then declared a capital-wide strike. As Suresh Grover, the human-rights campaigner working for the families of three British citizens who were killed in Gujarat in 2002, puts it, he would have probably been arrested for wilful neglect of duty, hate speech and for inciting violence. Modi, by contrast, said a couple of years ago that he felt the same pain over the bloodshed as a passenger in a car that has just run over a puppy. He referred to the refugee camps set up to shelter some of the 200,000 Muslims who lost their homes as "baby-making factories". And his minister for women is now serving 28 years in prison for murder and conspiracy to murder.

All of this is routinely summed up in journalistic shorthand that refers to the chief minister as being a "polarising" or "controversial" figure.

As for the so-called Gujarati development model, there isn't one. The state has enjoyed growth but very little development. Under Modi, it has lagged behind the other major states in India in tackling infant mortality, in reducing poverty, and in increasing literacy. In 2006, there were even more undernourished children in Gujarat than in 1993, which Modi has claimed is because middle-class girls are "beauty-conscious".

Big businesses back Modi, but that is because he gives them so much. As a string of reports from the independent Comptroller and Auditor General, among other bodies, points out, his administration has sold off public land dirt cheap to industrialists, provided companies with energy at below-market prices and given them loans at an interest rate of 0.1%. They in return have provided him with sponsorship and rides in their private jets. As Atul Sood, a professor at Jawaharlal Nehru University in New Delhi, has written: "The governance model of Gujarat is all about aggressive implementation of development on behalf of the big private investor. It is a model that works for the rich and against the poor."

And this somehow represents an improvement for India.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...endra-modi-massacre-next-prime-minister-india

Bro with all due respect, there is a reason that left leaning media has lost respect and influence. Because they lie. And in today's world, lies are caught in a second.

From the article

Let's look at the carnage of 2002 first. On 27 February that year, a train coach carrying Hindu pilgrims caught fire in Godhra station in Gujarat. Fifty-eight people died.

The train didn't catch fire. It was attacked and put on fire by a mob of muslims.

Two courts in India have convicted people for this incident. Some of them were trying to flee to Bangladesh and were members of the HUJI.

The author lies in the article and the guardian pushes the agenda.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Bro with all due respect, there is a reason that left leaning media has lost respect and influence. Because they lie. And in today's world, lies are caught in a second.

From the article

Let's look at the carnage of 2002 first. On 27 February that year, a train coach carrying Hindu pilgrims caught fire in Godhra station in Gujarat. Fifty-eight people died.

The train didn't catch fire. It was attacked and put on fire by a mob of muslims.

Two courts in India have convicted people for this incident. Some of them were trying to flee to Bangladesh and were members of the HUJI.

The author lies in the article and the guardian pushes the agenda.

That's not a lie though, the train did catch fire. Whether it was set on fire by a mob of Muslims or not, it caught fire. Regardless of whether that happened, it does not mean it was justified for a mass slaughter of thousands of innocent Muslims across Gujarat in "revenge".

it is hardly any surprise that yourself and the other veteran atheist Hindu poster Itachi, are quick to defend the disgusting image in the OP of this thread. Yet you both claim Indian Muslims are valued in the country. Not by you clearly.

 

[cricketjoshila]

That's not a lie though, the train did catch fire. Whether it was set on fire by a mob of Muslims or not, it caught fire. Regardless of whether that happened, it does not mean it was justified for a mass slaughter of thousands of innocent Muslims across Gujarat in "revenge".

it is hardly any surprise that yourself and the other veteran atheist Hindu poster Itachi, are quick to defend the disgusting image in the OP of this thread. Yet you both claim Indian Muslims are valued in the country. Not by you clearly.

It didn't catch fire, it was set on fire. And HUJI was involved. Both things proven in a court of law. I don't know about UK, but in India courts decide the veracity of facts surrounding a crime, and not media journalists.

Muslims are a valued community of India, terrorists are not.



The riot that happened in Gujarat post Godhra was a unfortunate spontaneous response of another community.

There is a small section of Muslims in India who believe that they can get what they want through force and violence. That all other communities will cede their interest out of fear. There are posters on this forum who condone and support this thinking.

Similarly, there are sections of other communities who believe that any violent act of muslims must be retaliated by violence.

 

[Romali_rotti]

This is poor very poor by BJP if the twitter account is actually from BJP.... Regardless of if the Muslims were guilty of the crime, you shouldn't make posts like these, bad bad taste this.

 

[IAJ]

This is poor very poor by BJP if the twitter account is actually from BJP.... Regardless of if the Muslims were guilty of the crime, you shouldn't make posts like these, bad bad taste this.

Finally a sane reply

 

[smkk]

How any one can defend it??

View attachment 114965

https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/sadhvi-pragya-thakur-digvijaya-singh-bjp-bhopal-lok-sabha-elections-malegaon-case-ajmer-dargah-blast-5681180/

Once a great man said: "Hyprocracy ka bhi ek sima hai..."

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Who is they?

The people in the cartoon do not resemble any of the actual accused so where is the they coming from?

You didn't even check their faces.
They resemble same with beards, go and check.

 

[Zaz]

Not that they should but if next time a hindu commits a crime will the bjp post a hindu person in saffron with a tilak on his head being hanged like this?

This not only maligns millions of muslims but also indirectly suggests muslims should be hanged and all this from the ruling party

Disgusting

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It didn't catch fire, it was set on fire. And HUJI was involved. Both things proven in a court of law. I don't know about UK, but in India courts decide the veracity of facts surrounding a crime, and not media journalists.

Muslims are a valued community of India, terrorists are not.



The riot that happened in Gujarat post Godhra was a unfortunate spontaneous response of another community.

There is a small section of Muslims in India who believe that they can get what they want through force and violence. That all other communities will cede their interest out of fear. There are posters on this forum who condone and support this thinking.

Similarly, there are sections of other communities who believe that any violent act of muslims must be retaliated by violence.

Very telling that you describe the riots as an unfortunate response by another community. It wasn't unfortunate, it was a slaughter, it wasn't another community, it was the Hindu mobs sanctioned and led by your PM and his political organisations.

Keep spinning your yarns, everyone knows you are here to spout propaganda for your hindutva heroes, you just don't have the cojones to do it openly. Keep attacking Indian Muslims then pretending that you speak for them, it is all the better for people on here to see the face of BJP on here.

 

[MP2011]

100% this

Kashmir wasn't ever mentioned for years, India was all at peace and we were humiliated at every turn by being reminded of Kargil (some peaks we still hold but anyway), since the Great One's anointment:

-Brought Kashmir back into the international focus the last few years
-Got slapped down during the Feb airstrikes fiasco that they won't dream off doing anytime soon, an absolute gift they gave us and got humiliated infront of the entire world and we finally found out how much fake fibs their media and Government actually puts out that its made me question so many of their past 'victories'
-Has completely ruined India's sectarian fabric, the fact it wasn't ruined after he butchered thousands of Muslims in Gujarat you'd have to think he'd have to screw up massively to fire up India's sectarian conflicts and amazingly he's done it from the racist citizenship laws to targeting even the most boot licker Indian celebs such as Shahrukh Khan who would always remind everyone how great Indian Muslims have it
-From beef lynch mobs, to Muslims being killed by Police, to Hijab by insulted and now openly being banned to open threats of genocides....soon someone will rise up to face them as unfortunate as that would be for South Asia's peace it would be something not even ISI have ever managed to do in India
-To pro BJP groups being exposed for setting up hundreds of fake news portals around the world to attack Pakistan
-To alienating all his neighbours
-And to being slapped silly by China at the border
-The countless, COUTNLESS, COVID deaths he never did anything about

Luckily I myself have best friends who are Indian (Tamil) and hate this guy more than I ever could

He's managed to put India into daily sectarian chaos and gave our army a much needed win 2 years ago by showing our people again how much we still them to defend us from India. This guy would absolutely be the best ISI agent that ISI could ever dream off.

An absolute shame, any other leader than this butcher and we could have peace with India.

Not a slight on any Indian from me as I know so MANY Indians (Muslim and non-Muslim) who hate this guy. Somehow bizarrely Indians on PP love him.

You forgot several more sins he committed,

1) Totally destroyed the Indian economy especially the informal one. Only ones to prosper under him are his crony capitalist chums.

2) Destroyed almost all institutions of repute we had...

3) There hasn't ever been a PM we had who has so ruthlessly looted national exchequer for his own leisure. You guys sulk about Sharifs and Benazirs, their misdeeds dwarf in front of this creature's.

 

[MP2011]

https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/sadhvi-pragya-thakur-digvijaya-singh-bjp-bhopal-lok-sabha-elections-malegaon-case-ajmer-dargah-blast-5681180/

Once a great man said: "Hyprocracy ka bhi ek sima hai..."

Everyone except the devotees know she is a terrorist.

 

[anikrc1]

This is disgusting even for BJP's standards. Instead of generalizing even if they have used actual culprits images it would have remained disgusting. It's almost like the public buring of witches in the mediaval era. It's one issue to debate on the death penalty, but the public celebration of murder even if it is state sponsored is shameful.

 

[Sidilicious]

For your last paragraph

https://images.app.goo.gl/KbiCEkLVuWZAHTpu8

https://images.app.goo.gl/fux4QM7NKm9rBeWk6

Your opinion?

Those cartoons, even though not blaming all the hindus, were still wrong.

Also firstly, one of the authors was charged by the police. Would the BJP social media handler be charged by the police?

Secondly, they were done by nobodys. Not by the ruling party of the national government. The ruling party of the Indian government is responsible for every single Indian, not just those who voted for them.

Just because someone else does something wrong, it doesn't make it right for us to do it.

Red improvement only comes when we are able to question and criticise within, be it ourselves and our own beliefs (and by extension the people we support). Supporting wrong, just because it is done by us (or someone with the same beliefs as us) is not helping the country, but pushing it further back.

 

[Sidilicious]

This is disgusting even for BJP's standards. Instead of generalizing even if they have used actual culprits images it would have remained disgusting. It's almost like the public buring of witches in the mediaval era. It's one issue to debate on the death penalty, but the public celebration of murder even if it is state sponsored is shameful.

This is poor very poor by BJP if the twitter account is actually from BJP.... Regardless of if the Muslims were guilty of the crime, you shouldn't make posts like these, bad bad taste this.

I think you guys are Modi supporters, so its good to hear calling a spade a spade. Kudos.

 

[Zaz]

This is poor very poor by BJP if the twitter account is actually from BJP.... Regardless of if the Muslims were guilty of the crime, you shouldn't make posts like these, bad bad taste this.

Thankyou Some sane voices

 

[LaLoco]

Promoter of counterfeit hindutva driven secularism are heavily depended on communal driven politics. It will NEVER end in India as most followers of Hindutva want and promote this form of politics in India.

 

[Vegitto1]

It didn't catch fire, it was set on fire. And HUJI was involved. Both things proven in a court of law. I don't know about UK, but in India courts decide the veracity of facts surrounding a crime, and not media journalists.

Muslims are a valued community of India, terrorists are not.



The riot that happened in Gujarat post Godhra was a unfortunate spontaneous response of another community.

There is a small section of Muslims in India who believe that they can get what they want through force and violence. That all other communities will cede their interest out of fear. There are posters on this forum who condone and support this thinking.

Similarly, there are sections of other communities who believe that any violent act of muslims must be retaliated by violence.

This same reasoning can be applied to every single act of terrorism. Just an unfortunate spontaneous response to another community/occupying forces

 

[PakLFC]

I am afraid Indian Muslim's are being prepared for a massive genocide. The sign are all there to see.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Only "mislead" Indians are surprised by this hate spreading piece of propaganda.

The whole campaign has been going on for some years. There are so many PP Time Pass threads denouncing this whole disgusting matter.

Unfortunately, there (God forbid) might be a civil war in India and these mislead Indians will blame ISI, Imran Khan and the Martians but won't look around the toxic society their extremist politicians have been continuously cultivating.

The Nazi model is being followed down to the t.

 

[anikrc1]

I think you guys are Modi supporters, so its good to hear calling a spade a spade. Kudos.

Nahh, TMC/ independent left..

 

[PakLFC]

Only "mislead" Indians are surprised by this hate spreading piece of propaganda.

The whole campaign has been going on for some years. There are so many PP Time Pass threads denouncing this whole disgusting matter.

Unfortunately, there (God forbid) might be a civil war in India and these mislead Indians will blame ISI, Imran Khan and the Martians but won't look around the toxic society their extremist politicians have been continuously cultivating.

The Nazi model is being followed down to the t.

Pak can and will defend itself giving India an equal if not worse battering if they mess with us. We are a well armed nation with a good military. Indian Muslim's are defenseless being made to obey all demands of fanatical Hindu's who oppress then at every opportunity.

Now in India they are blaming the murder of BJP activist Harsha on Muslim's as well without any evidence as usual. In Karnataka where Harsha was killed Hindutva thugs are stoning Muslim households.

India can blame Pak for whatever it wants, as seen in the past we can deal with that. They will think a zillion times before bombing Pak knowing we will do the same within minutes. China sitting on Indian territory would love to see that.

 

[kumjsr]

This same reasoning can be applied to every single act of terrorism. Just an unfortunate spontaneous response to another community/occupying forces

Maybe you're right.

Can you explain the what triggered following spontaneous response?

1. Godhra train burning 2002
2. Ahmedabad bombing 2008

 

[kumjsr]

I am afraid Indian Muslim's are being prepared for a massive genocide. The sign are all there to see.

Yes, Hindus getting bombed means Muslims are being prepared for genocide.

 

[Zaz]

Yes, Hindus getting bombed means Muslims are being prepared for genocide.

What else would you call it when theres constant discrimination, violent rhetoric and bjp bigheads not only do nothing but also in some sections inflame it and condone it

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Maybe you're right.

Can you explain the what triggered following spontaneous response?

1. Godhra train burning 2002
2. Ahmedabad bombing 2008

1. Is easy. Babri mosque massacres

 

[Varun]

The BJP are getting desperate, it seems.

Hopefully they get their wings clipped massively in Uttar Pradesh next month, to top off Bengal last year. That will show them.

 

[PakLFC]

Yes, Hindus getting bombed means Muslims are being prepared for genocide.

What and where are you Hindu's getting bombed?

 

[kumjsr]

1. Is easy. Babri mosque massacres

1. What is Babri mosque massacre?
2. Babri mosque demolition was in 1992. Ahmedabad bombing happened in 2008. How is it spontaneous response?
3. Babri mosque was built after demolishing Hindu temple at one of their holiest sites? Which event trigggered this spontaneous response? Did Hindus attack and demolish any mosque on their holy sites which led to temple being destroyed and mosque being built?

 

[kumjsr]

What and where are you Hindu's getting bombed?

I guess you have no idea what is context of the profile picture this was created for.

The 2008 Ahmedabad bombings were a series of 21 bomb blasts that hit Ahmedabad, India, on 26 July 2008, within a span of 70 minutes. Fifty-six people were killed and over 200 people were injured.[3][4] Ahmedabad is the cultural and commercial heart of Gujarat state, and a large part of western India. The blasts were considered to be of low intensity, and were similar to the Bangalore blasts, Karnataka which occurred the day before.[6][7]

https://indianexpress.com/article/c...edabad-serial-blasts-case-sentencing-7779534/

38 get death penalty, 11 life in jail for 2008 terror blasts in Ahmedabad that killed 56.

A special court, designated for speedy trial of the accused in the 2008 Ahmedabad serial blasts that killed 56 people and injured over 200, handed the death sentence Friday to 38 of 49 convicts. The remaining 11 have been awarded life terms in jail.

The 49 were convicted on February 8 by special judge A R Patel who acquitted 38 other accused in the case.

Those terrorist were convicted recently.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

1. What is Babri mosque massacre?
2. Babri mosque demolition was in 1992. Ahmedabad bombing happened in 2008. How is it spontaneous response?
3. Babri mosque was built after demolishing Hindu temple at one of their holiest sites? Which event trigggered this spontaneous response? Did Hindus attack and demolish any mosque on their holy sites which led to temple being destroyed and mosque being built?

If 3 can happen after a 500 year gap (without an confirmation of the claim anyway) then 1992 to 2008 isn’t a big gap

 

[PakLFC]

I guess you have no idea what is context of the profile picture this was created for.




https://indianexpress.com/article/c...edabad-serial-blasts-case-sentencing-7779534/

38 get death penalty, 11 life in jail for 2008 terror blasts in Ahmedabad that killed 56.



Those terrorist were convicted recently.

Oh be quiet you with your profile pictures rubbish and all! We are talking about what is happening in India today not in 2008. Should i remind you of the destruction of Babri, Samjhauta Express or the Gujarat riots too? Who has been convicted over these atrocities if you are so justice loving? Typical India hypocrisy with one rule for us and one rule for another community.

You are worried about some flimsy profile picture when your country is on the brink of a civil war.
https://indiaonthebrink.com/

 

[cricketjoshila]

If 3 can happen after a 500 year gap (without an confirmation of the claim anyway) then 1992 to 2008 isn’t a big gap

Without confirmation? There was a archaeological excavation of the place which revealed a temple like structure. No confirmation. Lol.

 

[kumjsr]

If 3 can happen after a 500 year gap (without an confirmation of the claim anyway) then 1992 to 2008 isn’t a big gap

1. You claimed that any terrorist act can be claimed as spontaneous response. Now don't have any event for which 2002 Godhra bombing can be claimed as spontaneous response.

2. Now you're claiming that it was response to an event in 1992, even when it is obvious that demolition wasn't a revenge act. While the method used was illegal and in an ideal world, a peace loving community would have accepted mistakes of past and returned the holy site of Hindus back to them.

3. Multiple bombing happned in 2008. Can you guess what was spontaneous response of Hindus when they were bombed? Nothing. What does it indicate? Hindus tried move forward from this even after being attacked.

So as per timelines

1. Hindus temples were destroyed some invaders and built mosques on the holy sites.
2. Hindus demolished the mosque to get liberate one of their holiest site in 1992.
3. Violence erupted in not only in India and Hindus were attacked in other countries also. Hindus also attacked other community.
4. Hindus in Mumbai were bombed in 1993 which was the spontenous response of what happened then.

This is where it could have ended.

5. 9 years later, Hindus were burnt alive in a train. -- I guess you're looking for reason of this. Why did this happen?
6. Violence erupted in Gujarat as a response.
7. Hindus got bombed all over India (2008 Ahmedabad bombing wasn't just the one).

And there was no spontaneous response.

Although the Hindus and their faith are being attacked regularly, they make attempts to live peacefully. This is where parties like BJP are able to take political advantage of the situation and constantly use fears of the community which gets amplified by such events.

BJP's biggest support are not RW people, rather people who have been constantly attacking faith of Hindus are the ones who make it easy for BJP.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Without confirmation? There was a archaeological excavation of the place which revealed a temple like structure. No confirmation. Lol.

The archeological evidence came almost 3 decades later.

Or are you claiming that people who burnt the mosque time traveled in the future for that archeological report AND THEN took the law in their own hands?? LMAOO

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

1. You claimed that any terrorist act can be claimed as spontaneous response. Now don't have any event for which 2002 Godhra bombing can be claimed as spontaneous response.

2. Now you're claiming that it was response to an event in 1992, even when it is obvious that demolition wasn't a revenge act. While the method used was illegal and in an ideal world, a peace loving community would have accepted mistakes of past and returned the holy site of Hindus back to them.

3. Multiple bombing happned in 2008. Can you guess what was spontaneous response of Hindus when they were bombed? Nothing. What does it indicate? Hindus tried move forward from this even after being attacked.

So as per timelines

1. Hindus temples were destroyed some invaders and built mosques on the holy sites.
2. Hindus demolished the mosque to get liberate one of their holiest site in 1992.
3. Violence erupted in not only in India and Hindus were attacked in other countries also. Hindus also attacked other community.
4. Hindus in Mumbai were bombed in 1993 which was the spontenous response of what happened then.

This is where it could have ended.

5. 9 years later, Hindus were burnt alive in a train. -- I guess you're looking for reason of this. Why did this happen?
6. Violence erupted in Gujarat as a response.
7. Hindus got bombed all over India (2008 Ahmedabad bombing wasn't just the one).

And there was no spontaneous response.

Although the Hindus and their faith are being attacked regularly, they make attempts to live peacefully. This is where parties like BJP are able to take political advantage of the situation and constantly use fears of the community which gets amplified by such events.

BJP's biggest support are not RW people, rather people who have been constantly attacking faith of Hindus are the ones who make it easy for BJP.

Lol talk about victim complex and fake news

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Its because a significant population of Indians hate Muslims that BJP does this. They are giving those people exactly what they want, to put the Muslims in their place.

 

[Lego20]

Lol talk about victim complex and fake news

Nailed you and your ilk. His post should be pinned to save time in future threads.