BJP in damage control mode after calls grow for boycott of Indian goods in the Arab world

[PakLFC]

Just seen plenty of Muslim's insulting Hindu God's and Goddesses on twitter. Arab's are too weak and business oriented to really do anything other then remove some product from their shelves for a few days. Ultimately it will only increase even more religious tension in India. I am expecting even more Hindu-Muslim fighting in India now. Let's get the show on the road, I love those Hindu-Muslim so called debates on Indian shows.

 

[happydavy]

It's fine, there's no shame in accepting what that lady said was offensive. Few posters are claiming that what he said was factually correct, i don't know about that and may be some muslims on this forum can clarify but regardless how she said it was offensive. Regarding what MF Hussain used to do etc, i think those were the times when certain muslims artists in India used to get away with such offenses under congress in the name of secularism, which anyway has changed now.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Just seen plenty of Muslim's insulting Hindu God's and Goddesses on twitter. Arab's are too weak and business oriented to really do anything other then remove some product from their shelves for a few days. Ultimately it will only increase even more religious tension in India. I am expecting even more Hindu-Muslim fighting in India now. Let's get the show on the road, I love those Hindu-Muslim so called debates on Indian shows.

Poor taste

 

[PakLFC]

Poor taste

Let it be' Hate begets hate the Hindu fundo's should remember that. Constant Hindu-Muslim fighting in India is good for Pakistan.

 

[PakLFC]

There are still some sane Indians although very few. Maybe a few thousand it seems who realize the consequences of what is happening in India. Why are the Bollywood Muslim's not speaking now?

 

[Kroll]

BJP and their schmucks flapping around like headless chickens after the rebuke from the Saudis. BJP need to realise the insulting of our Prophet PBUH won't be tolerated and news will reach Muslims outside India's own borders.

BJP would do well to remember this is not about bullying school girls and battering frail old men which is their level.

 

[PakLFC]

Anyone who has family in the Middle East will tell you that many Hindu's have been sacked from their jobs since this happened. Hey Hindu's it is your poor people that are suffering the consequences here no one else.

 

[Kriketer]

Have never seen in any Muslim teleivion mocking other religions. The amount of Hindu-Muslim debate keep happeneing in India really tells you where that nation is heading with its hatred. A third world poverty filled country which is highest in hunger and poverty index, along with massive corruption and social inequality, massive toilet issues etc should have far better things to worry about than avenging Muslim Moghuls rules of centuries over their Hindu ancestors. Many Hindudva fascist haters are visible all over social media talking all kind of nasty things about Islam and Muslims, so it's not just a few rotten ones there. Sickening.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Guess a shock for the "we dont bow down to anyone" brigade?

That message is strictly for subcontinent message boards, it was never meant to be conveyed to Arab world. The reality is there in front of us now, but most of us knew it already.

 

[PakLFC]

Have never seen in any Muslim teleivion mocking other religions. The amount of Hindu-Muslim debate keep happeneing in India really tells you where that nation is heading with its hatred. A third world poverty filled country which is highest in hunger and poverty index, along with massive corruption and social inequality, massive toilet issues etc should have far better things to worry about than avenging Muslim Moghuls rules of centuries over their Hindu ancestors. Many Hindudva fascist haters are visible all over social media talking all kind of nasty things about Islam and Muslims, so it's not just a few rotten ones there. Sickening.

This is why RSS are in power. It proves that the majority of Indians and Hindu's are fascists who can't get over Moghul rule. They are to thick to realize how civil war will only break up their country coz their Muslim's are not going anywhere no much how hard they scream! The Hindu faith is not exempt from being mocked and insulted.

 

[PakLFC]

These fascists only understand the language of Muhammad Bin Qasim, Sultan Ghaznavi or Sher Shah Suri. If they want a fight then we'll give them a proper one. They are cowards picking on helpless and oppressed Indian Muslim's knowing they can't fight back when the Prophet(saw) is insulted.

 

[Major]

What about the reaction to the French govt stand on Samuel Paty, the entire Arab world and Pakistan demanded boycotted French goods?

What about it?

What has that got to woth what the arabs are doing with the indian economy

 

[Major]

These Hindu fascists only understand the language of Muhammad Bin Qasim, Sultan Ghaznavi or Sher Shah Suri. If they want a fight then we'll give them a proper one. They are cowards picking on helpless and oppressed Indian Muslim's knowing they can't fight back when the Prophet(saw) is insulted.

As usual, racists stuff by you.

Just because of few bad apples you dont go around saying these hindus.....

We have bad apples aswell, no need to generalize.

 

[Kroll]

Have never seen in any Muslim teleivion mocking other religions. The amount of Hindu-Muslim debate keep happeneing in India really tells you where that nation is heading with its hatred. A third world poverty filled country which is highest in hunger and poverty index, along with massive corruption and social inequality, massive toilet issues etc should have far better things to worry about than avenging Muslim Moghuls rules of centuries over their Hindu ancestors. Many Hindudva fascist haters are visible all over social media talking all kind of nasty things about Islam and Muslims, so it's not just a few rotten ones there. Sickening.

Unfortunately, these are exactly the type of conditions that the hate mongers exploit to fester and breed more hatred. Very convenient to point fingers at the minorities and begin a campaign to demonise rulers that lived hundreds of years ago.

 

[PakLFC]

As usual, racists stuff by you.

Just because of few bad apples you dont go around saying these hindus.....

We have bad apples aswell, no need to generalize.

Difference is your government is fascist who were voted in by the majority Indian voters. This means that most Indian Hindu's are fascists. Now after all this condemnation your government is apologizing to the Muslim's and howling in embarrassment.

 

[PakLFC]

Does any Muslim government insult Hindu God's or Goddesses. I have never seen any Muslim TV channel speak poorly about Hindu religious figures. Muslim people will never tolerate insults towards our Prophet(saw) no matter what understand this loud and clear. Don't tell me anything about secularism or freedom of speech or rubbish like that. I am glad that there is still some hot blood left in Indian Muslims too!

 

[MP2011]

I've seen a lot of smug BJP spokespeople on indian tv but this woman gets the gold medal in the 'obnoxious' category. Any other contenders ?

Gaurav Bhatia, a SP turncoat is coming up the ranks very quickly.

And the great Sambit Patra is always there to up the obnoxious quotient in sanghi dispensation.

 

[Romali_rotti]

I am not a Qatari that took offence and pulled the pants down of your ambassador, or Modi that urinated himself as a result of foreign pressure.

Oh right, so you didnt find what the BJP lady said offensive, my bad, I thought you did, hence I directed the post to you..

 

[Stewie]

What is the deal with shivking controversy I keep reading about? How did any Muslims insult Hindus regarding shivking? I honestly don’t even know what it is and what was said. This was obviously some sort of retaliation in response to what was said to insult Hindus? Not sure.. maybe some Hindus here can explain?

 

[transparent opacity]

Stay on topic.

The thread is about India/BJP. Do not try to divert it.

 

[transparent opacity]

SIT set up to probe Kanpur clashes, 7 more held

KANPUR: The Kanpur police commissioner on Sunday constituted a special investigation team (SIT) to probe Friday’s rioting and violence in Parade and other areas even as seven more persons were arrested in the case, taking the total number of arrests to 29.Alleged mastermind Hayat Zafar Hashmi and his three aides were produced in a local court and sent to jail on Sunday. Over a dozen persons, including a cop, were injured in the violence.
“An SIT has been formed to destroy the network of the accused and to check their mobiles. Besides, one more team has been formed. The formation of these teams will decide the progress of the investigation in this case,” police commissioner Vijay Singh Meena told TOI.

Violence broke out in Parade and its adjoining Nai Sadak and Yateem Khana areas after Friday prayers when some people tried to force shopkeepers to down shutters over the alleged insulting remarks made by BJP spokesperson Nupur Sharma during a TV debate recently, police said.

Police sources said that it has come to the fore during investigations that efforts were made to tamper with and erase the footage from DVRs. “We will not spare even those who destroy evidence,” said the CP. Police have also identified the stone-pelters. “The pictures of the stonepelters will appear in posters and there will be an appeal to the people of the area to help police in getting them arrested,” he said.

Meena said important documents have been recovered from Hashmi. “Evidence of conspiracy has been found by checking Hashmi's WhatsApp and Instagram,” he added.


Police said the arrested persons have revealed the names of six other accused responsible for vitiating the peaceful atmosphere of the city. “Our police teams are conducting raids to arrest them,” said the CP.
Sources said police have also found documents of four organizations related to Popular Front of India (PFI) from Hashmi. “Many documents of organisations like AIIC (All India Imam Council) , SDPI (Social Democratic Party of India), CFI (Campus Front of India) and RIF (Rehab India Foundation) have been recovered from Hashmi. All these are linked to PFI, which has been funding all these institutions in the past as well,” sources added.


Police also claim to have found vital clues related to violence on a WhatsApp group by the name of MM Jauhar Fans Association, which was operated by Hashmi and others.

Officials said as per the call detail records, Hashmi’s location was found near Yateem Khana, a few metres away from Parade, from where the violence originated. The location of Javed Khan, who runs a YouTube channel from Lucknow, was near the violence-hit Dada Miyan, Nai Sarak and Yateem Khana, said an official privy to the investigations.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-clashes-7-more-held/articleshow/92027876.cms

 

[PakLFC]

Go look for youtube videos. I don’t think I’m allowed to post them here.

Zaid is only one man and not part of any Pak government or even a politician that anyone should care about him. He is just a self proclaimed defence analyst who hardly any Pakistani cares about. Your politicians like Adityanath and other RSS ruffians openly call for the genocide and rape of even dead Muslim women in conclaves attended by thousands who then cheer "Jai Shri Ram!". That is what i call people who are sick in the head. Stop trying to hide your fangs by comparing Pak nobody to those in the Indian government.

Ramji must be thinking what have my people become!

 

[ChennaiFan]

Stay on topic.

The thread is about India/BJP. Do not try to divert it.

Agree with this, let us now divert the topic.

An idiotic spokesperson of BJP said bad things and it should be denounced. Glad to see her party took the right action against her and made announcements that reflect the majority. It is good she also accepted her mistake.

 

[Itachi]

Stop it! Your RSS government was voted in by the majority. This tells us that Modi and the RSS are backed by the fascists for sure even according to the Americans who have spoken on this matter. Don't blame me for pointing out the truth although it understandably hurts your ego. Ignoring this massive problem you have will not make it disappear.

Why such aggression though in your post? The only one poster who posts with more aggression than you is technique (writing style is a bit similar though).

Everyone is arguing in a civil manner, then why so aggressive?

 

[PakLFC]

Why such aggression though in your post? The only one poster who posts with more aggression than you is technique (writing style is a bit similar though).

Everyone is arguing in a civil manner, then why so aggressive?

There is no aggression. You are just imagining it for sure. I am a humanitarian!! No one else has accused me off anything as such. I just hate all Zionists, that's all. I know there are many good Hindu's too albeit they have been silenced

 

[ChennaiFan]

Stop it! Your RSS government was voted in by the majority. This tells us that Modi and the RSS are backed by the fascists for sure even according to the Americans who have spoken on this matter. Don't blame me for pointing out the truth although it understandably hurts your ego. Ignoring this massive problem you have will not make it disappear.

Indian voters choose the government of their will and it is not RSS. Also, religious sentiments are not the only or main reasons BJP was able to get majority support. A lot of moderates voted for the BJP due to a lack of alternatives. In our state, the BJP has no or little presence. But we accepted the government chosen by the majority of the country.

Hating people that do not belong your religion, your country, or any other your category is racism. People who do that are racists. Stop and think where you belong.

 

[PakLFC]

Indian voters choose the government of their will and it is not RSS. Also, religious sentiments are not the only or main reasons BJP was able to get majority support. A lot of moderates voted for the BJP due to a lack of alternatives. In our state, the BJP has no or little presence. But we accepted the government chosen by the majority of the country.

Hating people that do not belong your religion, your country, or any other your category is racism. People who do that are racists. Stop and think where you belong.

Who is hating the Hindu's here? You need to lecture your fascist RSS folk who are hell bent of converting old masjids to temples and killing your Muslim's. Whatever or whoever they voted the RSS and BJP are two sides of the same coin. It was the RSS/BJP hatred of Pakistan that got them elected more then anything else.

My identity is crystal clear. UK, Pakistani and Muslim in no particular order

 

[Dingolfy]

Let it be' Hate begets hate the Hindu fundo's should remember that. Constant Hindu-Muslim fighting in India is good for Pakistan.

Not true. Radical Neighbors are not good for any country let alone Pakistan. A secular and peaceful India and Pakistan will benefit each other.

 

[PakLFC]

Not true. Radical Neighbors are not good for any country let alone Pakistan. A secular and peaceful India and Pakistan will benefit each other.

Very true. If India keeps picking on it's Muslim's then only India will suffer. This is what Rahul Gandhi keeps telling you people. Only India has a radical and fascist government in the subcontinent picking fights with everyone. The oppression of your Muslim's will surely make them pro Pakistani.

 

[Dingolfy]

Agree with this, let us now divert the topic.

An idiotic spokesperson of BJP said bad things and it should be denounced. Glad to see her party took the right action against her and made announcements that reflect the majority. It is good she also accepted her mistake.

You can’t be this naive. Hindu Rashtra is BJP’s motto and that lady merely reiterated that. Firing one spokesperson don’t change that.

 

[PakLFC]

The acceleration of events is because the RSS wants to make India a Hindu majority country. After the 2021 deadline or something the date has had to be changed These idiots think they can just get rid of 220 million people just like that!

 

[Dingolfy]

Very true. If India keeps picking on it's Muslim's then only India will suffer. This is what Rahul Gandhi keeps telling you people. Only India has a radical and fascist government in the subcontinent picking fights with everyone. The oppression of your Muslim's will surely make them pro Pakistani.

You people? I am not an Andhbhakth , never voted for BJP in my life and want a secular India. Also I am an atheist and all religions are fairytales for me.

 

[Dingolfy]

The acceleration of events is because the RSS wants to make India a Hindu majority country. After the 2021 deadline or something the date has had to be changed These idiots think they can just get rid of 220 million people just like that!

All they will do is accelerate India’s descent into a Hindu Taliban.

 

[ChennaiFan]

Who is hating the Hindu's here? You need to lecture your fascist RSS folk who are hell bent of converting old masjids to temples and killing your Muslim's. Whatever or whoever they voted the RSS and BJP are two sides of the same coin. It was the RSS/BJP hatred of Pakistan that got them elected more then anything else.

My identity is crystal clear. UK, Pakistani and Muslim in no particular order

You are simplifying Indian elections as if you are an expert in them. I don't care what your identity is, but I take your views don't represent the majority of the UK, Pakistan, or the Muslim population.

Coming back to the original topic, the statements by the BJP spokesperson was idiotic and complete nonsense. Her views did not represent us, the Indian public.

 

[Dingolfy]

Why would oil-rich states worry about losing a couple of billion dollars worth of deals ? It is chump change for them. Not to mention they can easily crush any local dissent that might arise from squandered business opportunities with India. This is not an equal relationship.

Economies of some indian states like Kerala depend completely on their NRI migrant remittances from Middle Eastern states.

Yogiji’s UP has overtaken Kerala in that aspect
https://m.economictimes.com/news/po...n-gulf-countries/amp_articleshow/67704104.cms

 

[ChennaiFan]

You people? I am not an Andhbhakth , never voted for BJP in my life and want a secular India. Also I am an atheist and all religions are fairytales for me.

Same here. I don't follow any religion and in my view, religions are misused by people.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Must be tough to be a BJP supporter to see their reps groveling to Arabs for apologies.

Btw is this woman stupid? Did she forget we live in internet age? Did she not know about that famous Indian chef who was humiliated for much less?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Must be tough to be a BJP supporter to see their reps groveling to Arabs for apologies.

Btw is this woman stupid? Did she forget we live in internet age? Did she not know about that famous Indian chef who was humiliated for much less?

It seems she was thinking that she will become a huge star and bhakhts will start worshipping her after that statement.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

This is a deliberate ploy to incite religious violence inside India. Elections must be near.

Of course, BJP is distancing itself from the whole matter.

For centuries people like these 2 ex-BJP clowns have been successfully manipulating the sheeple.

A mandatory thanks to Mr. Jinnah. May Allah SWT bless his soul.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

It seems she was thinking that she will become a huge star and bhakhts will start worshipping her after that statement.

Just to add: she got cheap publicity for BJP and the Indian public's POV is diverted from the real problems: corruption, poverty etc.

 

[MenInG]

It seems she was thinking that she will become a huge star and bhakhts will start worshipping her after that statement.

She could well become the next India PM in a few years time - Remember her name!

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Oh right, so you didnt find what the BJP lady said offensive, my bad, I thought you did, hence I directed the post to you..

Put the offense to one side.

Government officials/spokepersons should not speak in such a way. Especially about religious beliefs.

Saying things like go away and sit on your flying horse - which is mocking the Islamic belief about the Prophets night journey shows a deep misunderstanding of religion and is very obviously disrespectful.

When you do not understand the traditions of a community you shouldn't comment on them in such a superficial way.

It shows the toxicity that has been generated by BJP hate speech and the inherrent fundamentalism of some party members. People who themselves believe in God's/Miracles/things that cannot be rationalised think its ok to casually dismiss the religious beliefs of others.

It would be a akin to a non hindu mocking the image of a Hindu God. I mean for someone with no understanding of the hindu traditions/symbology those images are quite jarring, but it would wrong to ask a Hindu to go away and do XYZ in reference to those Gods, since we don't understand the symbolism or meaning.

Instead of scrambling around taking things out of concept from the religious scriptures from others, it's important to approach these topics with wisdom and caution.

We cannot expect much from rabble rousing features but we must demand better from political parties and politicians.

 

[Itachi]

She could well become the next India PM in a few years time - Remember her name!

Humans are prone to mistake. If she learns from it and takes the course of changing her perspective, I say why not?

Forgiveness and forgiving yourself for the mistakes are a part of life.

 

[MP2011]

https://www.ndtv.com/video/news/lef...ruth-bjp-leader-on-prophet-remarks-row-636294

Yeah, fringe elements, lol!

 

[Itachi]

Must be tough to be a BJP supporter to see their reps groveling to Arabs for apologies.

Btw is this woman stupid? Did she forget we live in internet age? Did she not know about that famous Indian chef who was humiliated for much less?

I don't think it was anything to do with repercussions.

She violated fundamental duties of an Indian with respect to Indian constitution and hence have to face the consequences. Regardless of what others might say, it would have been same after the issue was brought upon.

 

[MP2011]

Anyone who thinks this lady acted in isolation or didn't have patronage of the top sanghi echelons do not know sanghis one bit.

Just that they didn't think it'll escalate to this level and hence all this fringe elements lies.

Anyone remember that rabid creature, Tejasvi Surya and what he said about Gulf women?

 

[MP2011]

It seems she was thinking that she will become a huge star and bhakhts will start worshipping her after that statement.

This is how bigot made his career. Remember, hum 2 hamare 25?

 

[Kroll]

She could well become the next India PM in a few years time - Remember her name!

Good point, the current one got elected for a lot worse so its entirely plausible.

 

[MP2011]

And bigot's silence on such issues is so predictable!

 

[MP2011]

Telangana Minister K T Rama Rao has targeted the centre over the backlash from the Gulf following remarks by BJP spokespersons on Prophet Muhammad.

Mr Rao, popularly known as KTR, has questioned why India as a country should apologise for the "hate speeches of BJP bigots".

Addressing the Prime Minister, he said his party should apologise to Indians at home for "spewing and spreading hatred day in day out".

"It is BJP that should apologise; not India as a Nation," he tweeted.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/why...et-remarks-3041443#pfrom=home-ndtv_topstories

 

[MP2011]

This is so true. Why should India apologize for a bigot's speech? If anyone should apologize its the sanghis who all should apologize in unison.

 

[MenInG]

After condemning the highly derogatory remarks recently made by two senior officials of India’s ruling party BJP, disrespecting the Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him), Pakistan has issued a strong demarche to the Indian Charge d' Affaires in Islamabad over the blasphemy.

A statement issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MOFA) said that the Indian diplomat was summoned to convey Pakistan's categorical rejection and strong condemnation of the derogatory remarks.

"He was told that these remarks are totally unacceptable and have not only deeply hurt the sentiments of the people of Pakistan but Muslims across the world," the statement read.

The MOFA also told the Indian Charge d' Affaires that Pakistan deplores the belated and perfunctory disciplinary actions taken by the BJP government of India against the said officials, and that these actions cannot assuage the pain caused to the Muslims.

Read more: Pakistan strongly condemns derogatory remarks by BJP spokespersons against Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)

Pakistan is also deeply concerned about the alarming rise in communal violence and hatred directed against Muslims in India. Muslims in India are being systematically stigmatised, marginalised and subjected to a well-orchestrated onslaught from radical Hindu mobs with the full connivance and support of the security apparatus across various states in India.

Moreover, the MOFA also condemned "the growing mainstreaming of reprehensible anti-Muslim sentiment and the increasing attempts at depriving the Muslims of their centuries-old places of worship by citing frivolous historical claims," saying that these attempts are nothing but the obvious outcomes of the deep-seated Islamophobia in Indian society.

Pakistan strongly urged the BJP leadership and the government of India to unequivocally condemn the sacrilegious comments of the BJP officials and ensure that they are held accountable through decisive and demonstrable action against them for attacking the dignity of the Holy Prophet (PBUH).

It reminded the government of India of its obligations under international law to take immediate steps to protect its minorities from human rights violations, ensure their safety, security, and well-being; and allow them to profess and practise their faiths in peace.

Pakistan calls upon the international community as well as the United Nations and Organisation of Islamic Countries (OIC), especially their human rights machinery, to take cognisance of and stop the dangerously rising "Hindutva" inspired Islamophobia in India, and prevail upon the Indian authorities to prevent the systematic human rights violations against minorities in the country.After condemning the highly derogatory remarks recently made by two senior officials of India’s ruling party BJP, disrespecting the Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him), Pakistan has issued a strong demarche to the Indian Charge d' Affaires in Islamabad over the blasphemy.

A statement issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MOFA) said that the Indian diplomat was summoned to convey Pakistan's categorical rejection and strong condemnation of the derogatory remarks.

"He was told that these remarks are totally unacceptable and have not only deeply hurt the sentiments of the people of Pakistan but Muslims across the world," the statement read.

The MOFA also told the Indian Charge d' Affaires that Pakistan deplores the belated and perfunctory disciplinary actions taken by the BJP government of India against the said officials, and that these actions cannot assuage the pain caused to the Muslims.

Pakistan is also deeply concerned about the alarming rise in communal violence and hatred directed against Muslims in India. Muslims in India are being systematically stigmatised, marginalised and subjected to a well-orchestrated onslaught from radical Hindu mobs with the full connivance and support of the security apparatus across various states in India.

Moreover, the MOFA also condemned "the growing mainstreaming of reprehensible anti-Muslim sentiment and the increasing attempts at depriving the Muslims of their centuries-old places of worship by citing frivolous historical claims," saying that these attempts are nothing but the obvious outcomes of the deep-seated Islamophobia in Indian society.

Pakistan strongly urged the BJP leadership and the government of India to unequivocally condemn the sacrilegious comments of the BJP officials and ensure that they are held accountable through decisive and demonstrable action against them for attacking the dignity of the Holy Prophet (PBUH).

It reminded the government of India of its obligations under international law to take immediate steps to protect its minorities from human rights violations, ensure their safety, security, and well-being; and allow them to profess and practise their faiths in peace.

Pakistan calls upon the international community as well as the United Nations and Organisation of Islamic Countries (OIC), especially their human rights machinery, to take cognisance of and stop the dangerously rising "Hindutva" inspired Islamophobia in India, and prevail upon the Indian authorities to prevent the systematic human rights violations against minorities in the country.

GEO

 

[CricketCartoons]

This is so true. Why should India apologize for a bigot's speech? If anyone should apologize its the sanghis who all should apologize in unison.

Right now the Sanghis constitutionally represent the state of India. Apology is not a big deal for them.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

This is so true. Why should India apologize for a bigot's speech? If anyone should apologize its the sanghis who all should apologize in unison.

India Apologized? When this happened?
Joker KTR must be confusing.

let's talk what's happening in his own backyard few days back , Muslim Youth raped a minor girl.
All are MLA and politician sons.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have noted statements and comments from Pakistan. The absurdity of a serial violator of minority rights commenting on the treatment of minorities in another nation is not lost on anyone: Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) <a href="https://t.co/e6046Vgwex">pic.twitter.com/e6046Vgwex</a></p>— ANI (@ANI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1533712763532759040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Cover Drive Six]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Our response to media queries regarding recent statement by General Secretariat of the OIC:<a href="https://t.co/961dqr76qf">https://t.co/961dqr76qf</a> <a href="https://t.co/qrbKgtoWnC">pic.twitter.com/qrbKgtoWnC</a></p>— Arindam Bagchi (@MEAIndia) <a href="https://twitter.com/MEAIndia/status/1533687723625967616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[MenInG]

Delhi Police has registered a case on a complaint by suspended BJP spokesperson Nupur Sharma in which she has alleged that she is receiving death threats over her remark on Prophet Muhammad.

Ms Sharma was yesterday suspended by the BJP after her remarks during a TV show sparked a row and drew a massive backlash from Gulf countries.

The case has been registered against unidentified people.

Ms Sharma yesterday posted an apology on Twitter, saying that it was not her intention to hurt anyone's religious sentiments. She also said she was worried about her family's security and urged people not to make her address public -- the BJP's letter to her, which was widely circulated on social media, had her address.

The BJP yesterday suspended Ms Sharma pending an inquiry. The party said she had expressed views contrary to the party's position on several matters.

The action against Ms Sharma came after violence erupted in Uttar Pradesh's Kanpur over her remarks. More than 40 people were injured and over 1,500 people charged in connection with the violence.

India is facing a huge backlash over remarks by Ms Sharma and Naveen Kumar Jindal, senior leader who has now been expelled by the BJP.

Countries in the Gulf region -- Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain -- and Iran have strongly condemned the remarks. Qatar and Bahrain also summoned the Indian envoy and expressed their disappointment. The two countries have also welcomed the BJP's action against Ms Sharma.

NDTV

 

[Hextro]

India submitted pretty much instantly. Can't say this wasn't expected.

 

[Rana]

I guess hatred against Muslims has become so normalised in India that the lady could care less about venting frustration in a way which will force her to go into hiding for the rest of her life

 

[Rana]

India submitted pretty much instantly. Can't say this wasn't expected.

If entire Arab world boycotts India due to their atrocities in Kashmir, watch them change their tune for this as well.

 

[Rana]

Good point, the current one got elected for a lot worse so its entirely plausible.

No chance. She has condemned herself to a life of fear.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You are simplifying Indian elections as if you are an expert in them. I don't care what your identity is, but I take your views don't represent the majority of the UK, Pakistan, or the Muslim population.

Coming back to the original topic, the statements by the BJP spokesperson was idiotic and complete nonsense. Her views did not represent us, the Indian public.

This is the problem, there is clear evidence that they do. Indian public has voted for these extremists, Modi has made sure to promote them, and we have had idiotic statement after statement from different ministers from your govt.

The only difference here is that this lady took a step too far and her anti-Islam tirade alerted Arabs who previously had a relatively warm relationship with India.

 

[KingKhanWC]

This is the problem, there is clear evidence that they do. Indian public has voted for these extremists, Modi has made sure to promote them, and we have had idiotic statement after statement from different ministers from your govt.

The only difference here is that this lady took a step too far and her anti-Islam tirade alerted Arabs who previously had a relatively warm relationship with India.

She may have had a Jonny walker double so was thinking out loud . What is interesting Indians claiming she broke the law so is being punished not because of the backlash from Arab nations . I’ve spoke to 4/5 Indians here in a Arab nation , when asked what religion they follow all said Christian . It must be some new tactic as many here anti Hindu extremists . Maybe similar tactic to some claiming they are Indian atheists on forums but spend most of their time defending the RSS

 

[Romali_rotti]

Coming back to the original topic, the statements by the BJP spokesperson was idiotic and complete nonsense. Her views did not represent us, the Indian public.

No it was not idiotic or complete nonsense, she repeated what al Bukhari stated in the hadith:

that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death).

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:5134

If Muslims came out and rejected what Bukhari stated, then there is an argument here, however this is what is in their religious text....

 

[Local.Dada]

What Nupur said is wrong. Is it mentioned in Islam or not is not the debate. It shouldn’t have been said in the manner in which she said it.

Having said that, she was provoked. So you can’t look at this one way.

We see constant jibes on Hindus in a very derogatory manner almost like casual racism on this very forum. It’s different that mods do their jobs well enough on here.

However Muslims especially Pakistani and British-Pak Muslims are super sensitive when it comes to their religion and probably has the thinnest skin of any other group when it comes to religion. I guess that maybe a case of both pride and concern but it’s a fact.

Just in Nigeria today, Muslims have blown up a church because some Christians offended them.

 

[KingKhanWC]

No it was not idiotic or complete nonsense, she repeated what al Bukhari stated in the hadith:

that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death).

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:5134

If Muslims came out and rejected what Bukhari stated, then there is an argument here, however this is what is in their religious text....

Hadith is not Quran . There are other Hadith’s which show she was around 18, they are just narrations of what someone said .

But if this RSS woman was so concerned surely start with Hinduism first . Try Shiv linga or hundreds of other stories such as Sita. Was kidnapped and raped so a monkey god army was set into action . That’s worse than Harry Potter fantasy land . Point is Hindus are the last one to accuse any other faith of any obscenity.

 

[Local.Dada]

Hadith is not Quran . There are other Hadith’s which show she was around 18, they are just narrations of what someone said .

But if this RSS woman was so concerned surely start with Hinduism first . Try Shiv linga or hundreds of other stories such as Sita. Was kidnapped and raped so a monkey god army was set into action . That’s worse than Harry Potter fantasy land . Point is Hindus are the last one to accuse any other faith of any obscenity.

This is exactly the point. See how casually you are deriding Hinduism. However if I make a small retort will make you lose your sanity.

I don’t endorse insulting any religion but sometimes I don’t think the rules are fair.

 

[KingKhanWC]

What Nupur said is wrong. Is it mentioned in Islam or not is not the debate. It shouldn’t have been said in the manner in which she said it.

Having said that, she was provoked. So you can’t look at this one way.

We see constant jibes on Hindus in a very derogatory manner almost like casual racism on this very forum. It’s different that mods do their jobs well enough on here.

However Muslims especially Pakistani and British-Pak Muslims are super sensitive when it comes to their religion and probably has the thinnest skin of any other group when it comes to religion. I guess that maybe a case of both pride and concern but it’s a fact.

Just in Nigeria today, Muslims have blown up a church because some Christians offended them.

Hindus in India lynch people for eating cows , beef is beautiful & eaten world over. Hundreds of other examples can be given too . Or are you blind to Hindu extremism ? Let me guess like Hitachi you’re an atheist ?

 

[Romali_rotti]

Hadith is not Quran . There are other Hadith’s which show she was around 18, they are just narrations of what someone said .

But if this RSS woman was so concerned surely start with Hinduism first . Try Shiv linga or hundreds of other stories such as Sita. Was kidnapped and raped so a monkey god army was set into action . That’s worse than Harry Potter fantasy land . Point is Hindus are the last one to accuse any other faith of any obscenity.

Bro, come on now... Bukhari is one of if not the highest regarded source in Islam, Hadith is just as important to a muslim or supposed to be, you cant deny it.

Hindu scriptures does indeed talk about an army of Monkeys going to Sri Lanka to fight a Dravidian called Ravana and it is accepted by Hindus and if you made fun of it, we cannot reject it or get offended because it has been passed onto us over 1000s of years.....

 

[KingKhanWC]

This is exactly the point. See how casually you are deriding Hinduism. However if I make a small retort will make you lose your sanity.

I don’t endorse insulting any religion but sometimes I don’t think the rules are fair.

It’s your story not mine . Point is in Hinduism there are hundreds of stories & beliefs which would be considered far worse than anything in Islam so why didn’t the rss lady look into those first . Factual statements cannot be offensive , others which cannot be proven can be proven offensive. Ie Some Hindus worship Rats as Gods . This is not me abusing but it’s a fact .

 

[Local.Dada]

Hindus in India lynch people for eating cows , beef is beautiful & eaten world over. Hundreds of other examples can be given too . Or are you blind to Hindu extremism ? Let me guess like Hitachi you’re an atheist ?

Ok couple of RSS lynching goons in UP vs Church attacks in Nigeria, minorities in Pak, Bangladesh, Syria, Iraq, 9/11, Taliban, ISIS, extremism among Brit-Pak community, Kashmiri Pandit killings in Kashmir, armed conflicts in Israel, Chechnya etc, Boko Haram etc. wonder who wins that

 

[DeadlyVenom]

What Nupur said is wrong. Is it mentioned in Islam or not is not the debate. It shouldn’t have been said in the manner in which she said it.

Having said that, she was provoked. So you can’t look at this one way.

We see constant jibes on Hindus in a very derogatory manner almost like casual racism on this very forum. It’s different that mods do their jobs well enough on here.

However Muslims especially Pakistani and British-Pak Muslims are super sensitive when it comes to their religion and probably has the thinnest skin of any other group when it comes to religion. I guess that maybe a case of both pride and concern but it’s a fact.

Just in Nigeria today, Muslims have blown up a church because some Christians offended them.

Modi's pants fell down because of Qataris.

Not sure what it has to do with British Pakistanis?

And we have seen countless times how Hindu feelings get hurt over TV ads etc to the extent they arrange boycotts, troll online and threaten people.

So stop diverting and focus on the issue at hand.

 

[Local.Dada]

It’s your story not mine . Point is in Hinduism there are hundreds of stories & beliefs which would be considered far worse than anything in Islam so why didn’t the rss lady look into those first . Factual statements cannot be offensive , others which cannot be proven can be proven offensive. Ie Some Hindus worship Rats as Gods . This is not me abusing but it’s a fact .

I am not offended at all. it’s you who has been losing your s based on what the BJP spokesperson has said.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Bro, come on now... Bukhari is one of if not the highest regarded source in Islam, Hadith is just as important to a muslim or supposed to be, you cant deny it.

Hindu scriptures does indeed talk about an army of Monkeys going to Sri Lanka to fight a Dravidian called Ravana and it is accepted by Hindus and if you made fun of it, we cannot reject it or get offended because it has been passed onto us over 1000s of years.....

Brother Hadith cannot be considered correct If against the Quran , which states only adults can marry . Point is it’s debatable but many things in Hinduism are not debatable. Even though they are factual as in accepted beliefs I won’t post all as I’m offended just by reading them .

The woman doesn’t know her own faith or just prefers to attack others . ?

But seriously do you believe in the monkey army story even if not offended ,? How was Sita who is a goddess allowed to be kidnapped and abused ?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Ok couple of RSS lynching goons in UP vs Church attacks in Nigeria, minorities in Pak, Bangladesh, Syria, Iraq, 9/11, Taliban, ISIS, extremism among Brit-Pak community, Kashmiri Pandit killings in Kashmir, armed conflicts in Israel, Chechnya etc, Boko Haram etc. wonder who wins that

lol

See how easily you want to ignore & pretend Hindu extremists are minor . It’s not the thread for it but I will soon start one discussing all the Hindu beliefs which are accepted but in todays world may be found strange. Make sure you turn up with your atheist hat

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What Nupur said is wrong. Is it mentioned in Islam or not is not the debate. It shouldn’t have been said in the manner in which she said it.

Having said that, she was provoked. So you can’t look at this one way.

We see constant jibes on Hindus in a very derogatory manner almost like casual racism on this very forum. It’s different that mods do their jobs well enough on here.

However Muslims especially Pakistani and British-Pak Muslims are super sensitive when it comes to their religion and probably has the thinnest skin of any other group when it comes to religion. I guess that maybe a case of both pride and concern but it’s a fact.

Just in Nigeria today, Muslims have blown up a church because some Christians offended them.

Islam is very clear that insults to the Prophet PBUH are not to be tolerated. Hinduism is less clear as hindus see through many different lens such that it can be considered a religion and also not a religion. You can be religious and atheist at the same time. You can argue free speech and as such insults to the religon should be tolerated/not tolerated. It is quite confusing for a non-hindu.

By the way, not sure why you keep harping on about British Muslims, this is not really a topic which is specific to them.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

The fact is the vast majory over 80% of child marriages in India are by Hindus marrying girls that are underage.

Pretending 'tHaT iTs iN bUkHaRi' means that it was ok to say what the lady said, in the manner that she said it, is just covering up bigotry.

We know why she said what she did, she misrepresented and disrespected Islamic beliefs and figures.

No amount of deflection will cover it up, or cover up the fact that Modi peed his pants.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

No it was not idiotic or complete nonsense, she repeated what al Bukhari stated in the hadith:

that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death).

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:5134

If Muslims came out and rejected what Bukhari stated, then there is an argument here, however this is what is in their religious text....

Both Zakir Naik and Nupur said the same, only difference is she is non-Muslim.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Qatar and Kuwait should also ban preacher Zakir Naik & his Peace TV for hurting religious sentiments. <a href="https://t.co/BxihWSv4kb">pic.twitter.com/BxihWSv4kb</a></p>— Anshul Saxena (@AskAnshul) <a href="https://twitter.com/AskAnshul/status/1533510374854565890?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Both Zakir Naik and Nupur said the same, only difference is she is non-Muslim.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Qatar and Kuwait should also ban preacher Zakir Naik & his Peace TV for hurting religious sentiments. <a href="https://t.co/BxihWSv4kb">pic.twitter.com/BxihWSv4kb</a></p>— Anshul Saxena (@AskAnshul) <a href="https://twitter.com/AskAnshul/status/1533510374854565890?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Do you really think this and the hindu lady screeching it like she had a gotcha moment and then saying go and sit on your flying horse is the same thing?

If I was to have a snide look on my face, and call your wife the same things you call her in private, would it be ok to you because we both 'SaId tHe SaMe'?

The point is that its not just words alone - tone, context and intent is important.

 

[MP2011]

let's talk what's happening in his own backyard few days back , Muslim Youth raped a minor girl.
All are MLA and politician sons.

What has that got to do with what's being discussed in this thread over last 2 pages? You want to discuss that, open a new thread.