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Bollywood's obsession with Pakistan

Don’t be sad you’re just a causality of soft power flex, India’s second biggest and most underrated weapon after its population.

Americans made countless movies showing Russians, German Nazis and Arabs as villains for decades. Can’t do anything about it but just sit back and take it.

But there’s still something positive in all this. Bollywood is bringing gangster Pakistan stories to the world. It could be a genre in itself in the next decades.
Soft power flex on your own population. I have met indians in the west, and i havent seen people who are so out of touch with what actually Pakistan is. No one outside of India cares about your movies. Your own people hide behind terms like brown, south asian and all that. Every indian i meet tells me we are same people, and it pains me to be rude to them by telling them no, not really. Today’s Indian is ashamed of its identity, frustrated with his govt who told them they are vishwaguru yet in reality a clown show for the world which organizes poop throwing festivals.
 
Its not about relating to the story. Its about finding an interesting story and than telling that story.

Pakistan has many stories to tell, but a crap movie industry that has same 10 people acting in the same movies.

India has a great movie industry, and have used up indian stories. They can use our stories but the problem is they than have spin it with an indian raw narative etc
“Used up” indian stories. Major, stop with this the low IQ stuff man. You are clearly out of your depth in this conversation.
 
“Used up” indian stories. Major, stop with this the low IQ stuff man. You are clearly out of your depth in this conversation.
Do you guys watch Indian cinema or pakistani cinema?

People here are bashing Indian cinema, while not knowing how crap Pakistani cinema is.

The movie in question is a propaganda movie, which has made pakistanis go gaga.

But truth be told indian cinema is 100 times better with its story telling and actors, while pakistan can never do justice to characters like Chaudry Aslam
 
Soft power flex on your own population. I have met indians in the west, and i havent seen people who are so out of touch with what actually Pakistan is. No one outside of India cares about your movies. Your own people hide behind terms like brown, south asian and all that. Every indian i meet tells me we are same people, and it pains me to be rude to them by telling them no, not really. Today’s Indian is ashamed of its identity, frustrated with his govt who told them they are vishwaguru yet in reality a clown show for the world which organizes poop throwing festivals.
You are not getting the point.

@Bhaijaan is right, movie industry is a tool that can be used to portray a picture, no matter what the truth is.

Bollywood may not be at par with hollywood, but it is still amongst the top movie industry especially for folks who understand the language.

The onus of making a movie on chaudry Aslam and these pakistani gangsters is on Pakistani cinema. If it was good enough and made a good movie, it could had portrayed the story that we want to tell about Rehman Dakait, Chaudry Aslam and Balochistan in general.

Right now, pakistanis living in Pakistan, UK, USA, Canada, arab states have gone gaga over this movie and in their mind, this movie will be the image that will stay with them when refering to the lyari gangs.

This is actually a very dangerous thing for Pakistan, as bollywood and bjp can use this movie as a framework and start telling the world its own story on Balochistan, how Balochis hate Pakistanis etc.

Pakistan needs to step up on its own media industry
 
Do you guys watch Indian cinema or pakistani cinema?

People here are bashing Indian cinema, while not knowing how crap Pakistani cinema is.

The movie in question is a propaganda movie, which has made pakistanis go gaga.

But truth be told indian cinema is 100 times better with its story telling and actors, while pakistan can never do justice to characters like Chaudry Aslam
Indian cinema is million times better than Pakistani cinema. True. If Pakistani movie industry had any aqal, they would have celebrated the Mughal empire.

Thats beside the point that India has a lot of stories and its not used up. These obvious propaganda movies are an attempt at vouiyerism, a chance for vishwaguru citizens to feel superior and stay in their bubble. You know indians are so deluded that they use “bhikari” as an insult on the internet and keep on talking about “aata” because their understanding of Pakistan is through their fake news media and bollywood.

Thats why they get shocked when they see suave Pakistanis in the west especially North America while their own are a source of embarrasment for them.
 
Indian cinema is million times better than Pakistani cinema. True. If Pakistani movie industry had any aqal, they would have celebrated the Mughal empire.

Thats beside the point that India has a lot of stories and its not used up. These obvious propaganda movies are an attempt at vouiyerism, a chance for vishwaguru citizens to feel superior and stay in their bubble. You know indians are so deluded that they use “bhikari” as an insult on the internet and keep on talking about “aata” because their understanding of Pakistan is through their fake news media and bollywood.

Thats why they get shocked when they see suave Pakistanis in the west especially North America while their own are a source of embarrasment for them.
Well its true they have no idea what pakistanis look like, the language we speak or the jargons we use.

But again, getting it correct is not on them, its on us by having a better media industry
 
You are not getting the point.

@Bhaijaan is right, movie industry is a tool that can be used to portray a picture, no matter what the truth is.

Bollywood may not be at par with hollywood, but it is still amongst the top movie industry especially for folks who understand the language.

The onus of making a movie on chaudry Aslam and these pakistani gangsters is on Pakistani cinema. If it was good enough and made a good movie, it could had portrayed the story that we want to tell about Rehman Dakait, Chaudry Aslam and Balochistan in general.

Right now, pakistanis living in Pakistan, UK, USA, Canada, arab states have gone gaga over this movie and in their mind, this movie will be the image that will stay with them when refering to the lyari gangs.

This is actually a very dangerous thing for Pakistan, as bollywood and bjp can use this movie as a framework and start telling the world its own story on Balochistan, how Balochis hate Pakistanis etc.

Pakistan needs to step up on its own media industry
Common pakistanis are have just slightly higher average IQ than their neighbours in the east. Both are generally low IQ. Most pakistanis still support PTI. I am not surprised that they are this dumb.
 
Well its true they have no idea what pakistanis look like, the language we speak or the jargons we use.

But again, getting it correct is not on them, its on us by having a better media industry
We have nothing to prove to the indians. Whatever good we have, they will end up stealing it and appropriating it to themselves. Be it our music, our culture, our food or literally the fact that we are the Indus Valley Civ whereas they are from the land of Ganga. We should focus on ourselves. They are the loudest mouths due to their sheer size. We can never beat them at this.
 
Sri Lankas who are genetically South Indians have been slightly succesful at carving out a different image for themselves at least as a country because of high literacy rate, better civic sense, great tourism and cleanliness. Pakistan is going through its moment as well. Look at youtube and foreign youtube channels experience with Pakistan. You can tell pakistan’s general image in recent years has been improving a lot. Theres a whole trend of how Pakistanis are more hospitable, nicer, cleaner than its neighbours. I have had white friends mention it to me. Our people and govt need to work on our own identity, we are literally the custodians of the great Indus Valley Civ. Disassociate with Indians as much as possible. Theres no advantage in associating with them.
 
You are not getting the point.

@Bhaijaan is right, movie industry is a tool that can be used to portray a picture, no matter what the truth is.

Bollywood may not be at par with hollywood, but it is still amongst the top movie industry especially for folks who understand the language.

The onus of making a movie on chaudry Aslam and these pakistani gangsters is on Pakistani cinema. If it was good enough and made a good movie, it could had portrayed the story that we want to tell about Rehman Dakait, Chaudry Aslam and Balochistan in general.

Right now, pakistanis living in Pakistan, UK, USA, Canada, arab states have gone gaga over this movie and in their mind, this movie will be the image that will stay with them when refering to the lyari gangs.

This is actually a very dangerous thing for Pakistan, as bollywood and bjp can use this movie as a framework and start telling the world its own story on Balochistan, how Balochis hate Pakistanis etc.

Pakistan needs to step up on its own media industry


Overseas Pakistanis don't care as we're used to bollywood movies being released on the regular. After the hype people will forget this movie until they make the next one against Pakistan. Only reason it's getting hype is because of the Indian obsession with Pakistan. The best we can do is not spend our money to promote and watch such movies. And any Pakistani that does, it is our duty to remind them of how they're supporting an industry that is anti Pakistan.

And as for telling stories of gangsters and terrorists, why do we need to give limelight to any such criminals? If India wants to do it, they are more than welcome. In the end it is tailored for their audience and if they want to portray criminals on the big screen and make them resonate with the common people then that's their downfall. They've done it in the past and have made many movies inspired by Dawood Ibrahim. Funny thing is though during bollywood's peak they never dared to use his name directly and it has always been fictional characters based on his influence.

For overseas Pakistanis though it also becomes an opportunity to educate delusional neighbours about who we actually are and how Pakistan and India are different. Many of my employees and Indian friends have recently watched this and have so many questions about the characters and events. I.e. Why are the Balauchis asking for freedom? If they're willing to learn and understand us then that's one positive we can take away.
 
For your kind information, the US congressional report on Pak-Ind skrimish has called it a military and overall victory for Pakistan. But dont worry, you will have a resounding victory in bollywood.

Can you pls share the US Congress report which said 'Overall Victory for Pakistan'?
 
Pakistan is going through its moment as well. Look at youtube and foreign youtube channels experience with Pakistan. You can tell pakistan’s general image in recent years has been improving a lot.

They are all paid for by Pakistan's tourism ministry for promotion.
 
You are not getting the point.

@Bhaijaan is right, movie industry is a tool that can be used to portray a picture, no matter what the truth is.

Bollywood may not be at par with hollywood, but it is still amongst the top movie industry especially for folks who understand the language.

The onus of making a movie on chaudry Aslam and these pakistani gangsters is on Pakistani cinema. If it was good enough and made a good movie, it could had portrayed the story that we want to tell about Rehman Dakait, Chaudry Aslam and Balochistan in general.

Right now, pakistanis living in Pakistan, UK, USA, Canada, arab states have gone gaga over this movie and in their mind, this movie will be the image that will stay with them when refering to the lyari gangs.

This is actually a very dangerous thing for Pakistan, as bollywood and bjp can use this movie as a framework and start telling the world its own story on Balochistan, how Balochis hate Pakistanis etc.

Pakistan needs to step up on its own media industry

@Major has absolutely nailed it with his comments.
Its an obvious propaganda movie but compared to the last dozen crappy propaganda movies its actually half decent and has managed to go viral. Pakistan's dead film industry and state control has given a window to the Indian film makers to absolute run away with Pakistan, Afghan, Baloch based stories hence having creative freedom for narrative control. Whatever he said is what i would have said or felt if i was a Pakistani.

He is not fearing one movie, but he's fearing the precedence and a wave of similar themed movies with complete Indian creative control.

With Netflix and all, the whole world watches foreign language films now.
 
With Netflix and all, the whole world watches foreign language films now. Indian film industry is already mature enough and if it finally taps into foreign markets via OTT platforms its going to narrow the gap with Hollywood very soon. This is soft power. Cant deny. One would be extremely naive to deny this. Indian film makers are coming up with 2 $100 million budget movies the next year. The scope is huge.
 
Overseas Pakistanis don't care as we're used to bollywood movies being released on the regular. After the hype people will forget this movie until they make the next one against Pakistan. Only reason it's getting hype is because of the Indian obsession with Pakistan. The best we can do is not spend our money to promote and watch such movies. And any Pakistani that does, it is our duty to remind them of how they're supporting an industry that is anti Pakistan.

And as for telling stories of gangsters and terrorists, why do we need to give limelight to any such criminals? If India wants to do it, they are more than welcome. In the end it is tailored for their audience and if they want to portray criminals on the big screen and make them resonate with the common people then that's their downfall. They've done it in the past and have made many movies inspired by Dawood Ibrahim. Funny thing is though during bollywood's peak they never dared to use his name directly and it has always been fictional characters based on his influence.

For overseas Pakistanis though it also becomes an opportunity to educate delusional neighbours about who we actually are and how Pakistan and India are different. Many of my employees and Indian friends have recently watched this and have so many questions about the characters and events. I.e. Why are the Balauchis asking for freedom? If they're willing to learn and understand us then that's one positive we can take away.
Bro it doesnt matter if they are criminals or not. Its about how the world sees Balochistan.
India is using these movies to show that Balochistan have a soft side for Indians and are anti Pakistani
 
The reality is that Pakistanis are not allowed to make movies which depict ground realities due to state sensorship. Therefore, more power to bollywood for making such movies to get people talking. We Pakistanis are all in favour of Bollywood exposing our corrupt establishment and the equally corrupt political class to the world.
 
The reality is that Pakistanis are not allowed to make movies which depict ground realities due to state sensorship. Therefore, more power to bollywood for making such movies to get people talking. We Pakistanis are all in favour of Bollywood exposing our corrupt establishment and the equally corrupt political class to the world.
State sponsorship? That’s Indian propaganda
 
Ranveer Singh’s Dhurandhar banned in all Gulf countries

A source told Bollywood Hungama, “Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE have not released Dhurandhar. There were apprehensions that this would happen as the film is perceived as an ‘anti-Pakistan film’. Also, in the past, such films have failed to procure a release in this region. Yet, the team of Dhurandhar made an attempt, but sadly, all the countries did not approve of the theme of the film. This is why Dhurandhar hasn't been released in any of the Gulf countries.”

Besides Ranveer Singh, Dhurandhar also stars Akshaye Khanna, Sanjay Dutt, R Madhavan, Arjun Rampal, Sara Arjun and Rakesh Bedi. Directed by Aditya Datt, it tells the story of an Indian officer who infiltrates Pakistan and wreaks havoc in the country’s underworld and political establishment.


@Devadwal aur karwao IIFA wahaan pe :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Im sorry to say, but the obsession with Pakistan is real. You hate us so much but you cannot stop making movies about us?

I think it's down to lack of self worth quite honestly. Indians can't really make movies about taking on powerful adversaries because they would just get laughed at. So Pakistan makes for an easy target and alleviates Indian inferiority complex.
 
@Devadwal aur karwao IIFA wahaan pe :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Already watched twice. Doens't matter for us if they banned. This is Indian Film for Indian audiences .

Btw film is banned in Pakistan yet Pakistan are watching it and giving the review. How ?

Dhurandhar is a BLOCKBUSTER 🔥

Dhurandhar Box Office Collection:
Fri — 28.60 cr 🔥
Sat — 33.10 cr 🔥
Sun — 44.80 cr 🔥
Mon — 24.30 cr 🔥
Tue — 28.60 cr 🔥
Wed 29.20 cr 🔥
Thu 29.40 cr. 🔥

🌟 Total: 218 cr 🔥🔥🔥

The way this film is trending, it’s clearly headed for 400 cr+ nett in India, and it might even touch 500 cr if this momentum continues. 🔥

:klopp :kp
 
I don't know really. Was just speculating since the story seems rather specific. Both countries' intelligence agencies have always been active in the other so I wouldn't be surprised if India had a a hand in the Karachi-Lyari stuff. Definitely not the swashbuckling musclebound spy hero Bollywood imagined but providing arms etc. The rest is obviously poetic license.

The only book I've read by an ex-RAW guy is 'Calling Sehmat' claiming to be based on real life events. It was adapted into a decent not too jingoistic movie called 'Raazi'.

There are several others though I haven't read them. I once heard a podcast on Vikram Sood's 'The Unending Game' and it felt gritty and interesting. I'd marked it down mentally as something to read but I never got around to it.

There's also the famous 'The Spy Chronicles' co-written by ex-heads of RAW and ISI. No idea if it's any good but it's well known. The ISI guy was called a traitor by Pakistan so it must've contained some revelations.

Thanks for the detailed response . I'll definitely check out The Spy Chronicles
 
Can you pls share the US Congress report which said 'Overall Victory for Pakistan'?
My bad, since this was a military battle. Overall victory is military victory lol

Anyway, heres directly from the source:

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Let me know if you would like me to provide you any sources. I can link you to multiple indian sources, let alone neutral ones.

Some for your ref:

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2) https://www.ndtv.com/opinion/why-a-us-report-mentioning-pak-success-has-india-worried-9708468

3) https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...cess-claim-in-report/article70301937.ece/amp/
 
My bad, since this was a military battle. Overall victory is military victory lol

Anyway, heres directly from the source:

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Let me know if you would like me to provide you any sources. I can link you to multiple indian sources, let alone neutral ones.

Some for your ref:

1)

2) https://www.ndtv.com/opinion/why-a-us-report-mentioning-pak-success-has-india-worried-9708468

3) https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...cess-claim-in-report/article70301937.ece/amp/

Oh Dear. :facepalm:
 
Why would the Middle East ban the movie ? Seems like fake news to me.
Why not? Oman refused to visit India after Pakistan refused to come for hockey tournament. How come you hate the Muslims in your own country and Pakistan but gulf muslims somehow are different for you since they give you jobs? We have seen indian social media’s shocking views on gaza.
 
Dont worry man, you will have sindoor files to provide relief to your pain. In that you have destroyed all pakistani bases and shot down 12 jets. Mera bharat mahaaan!

So Pakistan had upper hand in aerial battle according to US congress and yet they accepted the ceasefire?

Why didnt they carry on with Operation Bunyan Marsoos?

Why did Ishaq Dar admitted that he had a phone chat with prince Faisal and told him to speak with S.Jaishankar and tell him if theu stop...we will stop. If Pak was on top, according to this article, why was he willing to stop? I mean India didnt stop on 7th May and successfully completed Op Sindoor. Was it due to good heart and daleri from Pakistanis?

Do you also think Pakistan won the Asia cup just because India dont have the trophy?

:kp
 
Thanks for the detailed response . I'll definitely check out The Spy Chronicles
No guarantees from me. I haven't read it personally. As I said, the only I've read is 'Calling Sehmat'.

I remember reading that there were some candid admissions from both sides but nothing earthshattering. Let me know if you do read and find it good. Just FYI, it's banned in Pakistan but if you're in the UK, should be no problem getting hold of a copy.
 
So Pakistan had upper hand in aerial battle according to US congress and yet they accepted the ceasefire?

Why didnt they carry on with Operation Bunyan Marsoos?

Why did Ishaq Dar admitted that he had a phone chat with prince Faisal and told him to speak with S.Jaishankar and tell him if theu stop...we will stop. If Pak was on top, according to this article, why was he willing to stop? I mean India didnt stop on 7th May and successfully completed Op Sindoor. Was it due to good heart and daleri from Pakistanis?

Do you also think Pakistan won the Asia cup just because India dont have the trophy?

:kp
The report clearly mentions military victory and does not specify “aerial battle”. Maybe ask all the news sources on your side. I dont really wanna waste my time explaining it to someone who lacks basic comprehension skills.

You are clearly either too low IQ or delusional. Probably both.
 
The report clearly mentions military victory and does not specify “aerial battle”. Maybe ask all the news sources on your side. I dont really wanna waste my time explaining it to someone who lacks basic comprehension skills.

You are clearly either too low IQ or delusional. Probably both.

My questions are valid. Why dont you answer those? These are logical questions.
 
They’ve been reduced to making movies now, but none of that changes the ground reality. Fiction isn’t a substitute for facts. After the events of May, India is right back with the same allies it was desperately trying to distance itself from, despite spending millions attempting to pivot toward new partners.

All that noise, all that hype, and in the end, nothing changed.
Man the delusion in this post, India trying to distance itself from allies good lord and plz tell me who those allies are russia that is some serious thing u are smoking regarding may we all saw what happened
 
Why would the Middle East ban the movie ? Seems like fake news to me.

They’re bit sensitive about overly political and violent themes. Similar movies in the past have also struggled to be screened there. Nothing new and very much expected also.

The audience misses out although since Netflix, the filmmaker’s don’t really bother about overseas sales that much.
 
A new Bollywood film is dividing opinions in India and Pakistan

A new Bollywood spy film is generating praise - and unease - in India and Pakistan for its contentious portrayal of the longstanding hostilities between the South Asian neighbours.

Dhurandhar, which hit cinemas last week, plunges audiences into a high-octane world of espionage, gang wars and patriotic fervour.

Anchored by Bollywood star Ranveer Singh's swaggering performance as Hamza, an Indian spy on a perilous mission in Karachi in Pakistan, the film traces his battles against criminal networks, shadowy operatives and personal demons - all framed against the backdrop of India-Pakistan tensions.

While the action-packed sequences and riveting plot have earned praise from many viewers, the film, directed by Aditya Dhar, has also provoked sharp debate over its political messaging and treatment of historical events.

Dhar first gained national attention in 2019 with his debut Uri: The Surgical Strike, a dramatisation of India's 2016 airstrikes on Pakistan. The film was a major box-office hit and earned him a national film award.

Though Dhurandhar is only his second directorial effort, he has co-written and produced other films, including last year's Article 370- about the 2019 revocation of Kashmir's autonomy - which was a major success and earned praise from Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

Dhurandhar, arriving months after the worst India-Pakistan military clash in two decades, sees Dhar return to the political-thriller genre on a grander scale.

Deadly fights erupt in cramped rooms, gunfire rattles through crowded alleys, leaving behind trails of bodies, and torture scenes linger uncomfortably long. The violence is graphic and filmed in tight, suffocating frames that heighten the sense of discomfort.

Online, praise and criticism have flown in equal measure - some are impressed by the film's cinematic ambition and exhilarating plot, others find its hyper-nationalist tone and use of violence unsettling and inflammatory.

The debate has grown so heated that some reviewers faced backlash, with Dhurandhar supporters accusing them of judging the film through political bias rather than cinematic merit.

The Film Critics' Guild, an association of critics, issued a statement this week condemning "the targeted attacks, harassment, and hate directed toward film critics for their reviews of Dhurandhar".

But despite the polarised reactions, the film has been drawing large audiences and has already become one of the year's biggest hits.

The trend is not surprising. In recent years, Indian cinema has seen a surge in nationalist blockbusters that openly reference government policies and historical events.

Films such as The Kashmir Files and The Kerala Story have become major commercial hits despite sparking intense debates over their historical accuracy and political messaging.

Spy thrillers have also long featured prominently, often portraying Pakistan as the biggest threat to India - a familiar trope rooted in decades of geopolitical tension between the two countries.

The makers of these films argue that they resonate with audiences because they address historical events and contemporary issues often overlooked by mainstream commercial cinema - sensitive, polarising subjects that touch on communal identity, national memory and contemporary politics.

"My films are not political, they are of human interest," Sudipto Sen, director of The Kerala Story, told the BBC last year. The 2023 film claimed to tell the "true story" of Hindu and Christian women lured into converting to Islam and joining the Islamic State (IS) group.

But critics say such films, with their outright fabrications of key events, are increasingly blurring the line between entertainment and propaganda, flattening complex histories into oversimplified storylines.

Dhurandhar, which presents itself as an espionage thriller with an unflinching nationalistic tone, falls squarely within this expanding genre, says film critic Uday Bhatia.

Even before it was released, the film faced legal scrutiny after the family of a late army officer alleged that parts of the plot were based on his life without seeking permission. Dhar denied this and the film was eventually cleared by India's Central Board of Film Certification as a work of fiction.

Yet, the film openly weaves several real-life events and historical flashpoints into the story, including news footage and real audio recordings of the attack on the Indian parliament in 2001 and the 26/11 Mumbai terror attack.

In fact, the story starts with a reference to the 1999 hijacking of an Indian passenger plane.

We see India's intelligence chief Ajay Sanyal, played by R Madhavan, reacting to the hijacking by vowing to strike Pakistan on its own soil.

So, he sends his best man, Hamza, to destroy the alleged links between Karachi's gangsters and terror networks, which, in the film's telling, operate with tacit support from the Pakistan government.

Dhar's portrayal of Karachi is bleak: a sprawling, lawless city where kidnappings and torture are rampant and revenge killings between rival gangs unfold with unrelenting brutality.

Some critics have criticised the blending of real gang histories with cinematic exaggeration. "The film paints Pakistan as a lawless, almost barbaric land that's pathologically hostile towards India. It also frames the cross-border conflict in religious terms," Mr Bhatia says.

But others feel the depictions were startlingly on point. "Where Dhar takes the biggest swing is in his portrayal of Pakistan. It is not caricatured, but surprisingly nuanced, especially politically," writes Vineeta Kumar on India Today's website.

It's not just in India - there have been mixed reactions to Dhurandhar in Pakistan too.

For decades, cultural exchanges have been limited, with cinema often the biggest casualty. Pakistan banned Indian films in 2019, while India frequently blocks Pakistani films and music.

Yet Bollywood remains hugely popular in Pakistan and audiences often use VPNs or download films illegally.

In Dhurandhar's case, editorials - including in Dawn newspaper - criticised its negative portrayal of Pakistan and lamented that local filmmakers often neglect their own history, leaving Bollywood to interpret the story.

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A poster with former Pakistan PM Benazir Bhutto's photo in Dhurandhar

Critics also flagged factual inaccuracies, such as the depiction of Karachi's Lyari gang - normally involved in extortion, kidnappings, and drug-trafficking - being cast into cross-border tensions with India.

Content creator Bilal Hussain, who grew up in Karachi, said he was surprised the gang was portrayed at all, though he added that the film's action, performances, and music could still be appreciated despite its "propaganda".

The sharpest criticism came from the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP), which rules the Sindh province, to a scene featuring a fictional PPP rally, complete with party flags and images of former prime minister Benazir Bhutto, who was assassinated in 2007.

A party leader called the film a "malicious distortion" that sought to portray the PPP as sympathetic to militants.

Despite its inaccuracies, commentators say the film, like many before it, is unlikely to dent Bollywood's popularity in Pakistan, which lacks a comparable local film industry.

The sentiment is somewhat echoed in India as well, where many viewers reject the political debates around the film, saying they watched it purely for entertainment.

"At the end of the day it is a fiction film and can make up whatever it likes," Mr Bhatia says.

"But it obviously has a slanted, selective worldview, which it expertly furthers."

BBC
 
Man the delusion in this post, India trying to distance itself from allies good lord and plz tell me who those allies are russia that is some serious thing u are smoking regarding may we all saw what happened

Indian ganja.
 
You must be really naive to think that way.

It's the truth and you know it. I'm more cynical than naive.

For what it's worth, when I see multiple youtube videos of foreigners going to India and say how great it is, I am very skeptical and think it is a ploy for new content-creators to massively increase their subscriber count.
 

Sindh govt to release 'Mera Lyari' film to counter propaganda in Indian movie 'Dhurandhar'​


The Sindh government has announced the release of a new film, 'Mera Lyari', as a counter to the Indian movie 'Dhurandhar', which has drawn criticism for its negative portrayal of Pakistan and Lyari area.

Senior Provincial Minister for Information Sharjeel Inam Memon said the Bollywood film is part of a broader conspiracy against Pakistan, particularly targeting Lyari. “Lyari is not violence—it is culture, peace, talent, and resilience. Next month 'Mera Lyari' will release, showing the true face of Lyari: peace, prosperity, and pride,” he wrote in a post on social media platform X.

Memon emphasised that 'Dhurandhar' seeks to misrepresent Lyari, which he described as a symbol of cultural richness and social harmony. He added that the upcoming Sindhi-language film aims to present the city’s reality to both local and international audiences.

A day earlier, a constitutional petition has been filed in a Karachi court against the Indian film Dhurandhar for unauthorised use of images of the late Benazir Bhutto, the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) flag, and party rally footage in its trailer. The petition also accuses the film of portraying the PPP as supportive of terrorists.

The petition was filed by PPP activist Muhammad Amir in the District and Sessions Court (South) in Karachi. It seeks an FIR against the film’s director, producers, actors, and other relevant staff involved in creating and promoting the movie.

The petition names director Aditya Dhar, producers Lokesh Dhar and Jyoti Kishore Deshpande, and actors Ranveer Singh, Sanjay Dutt, Akshaye Khanna, Arjun Rampal, R Madhavan, Sara Arjun, and Rakesh Beni. It also lists cinematographer Vikash Nolcha, editor Shiv Kumar V Panicker, and other unnamed crew members as proposed accused.

According to the petition, the official trailer includes images of the late former prime minister and PPP visuals without legal permission. It alleges that the film portrays the PPP as sympathetic to terrorists and labels Karachi’s Lyari area as a “terrorist war zone,” which the petitioner argues is defamatory, misleading, and harmful to Pakistan’s reputation.

'Dhurandhar' has triggered strong backlash since its release for its portrayal of Karachi’s Lyari as a war zone. The Indian movie features Ranveer Singh as a RAW agent, while Arjun Rampal plays a Pakistani intelligence officer.

Source: The Express Tribune
 
Don't like criticism then don't worry about it, just watch the movie and move on.
Exactly. No one is forcing anyone to watch the movie. But secretly they watch it anyways. Such is the magic of Bollywood.

Even Pakistani men are shaking their leg to the Dhurandar hit songs.


 
Exactly. No one is forcing anyone to watch the movie. But secretly they watch it anyways. Such is the magic of Bollywood.

Even Pakistani men are shaking their leg to the Dhurandar hit songs.



Wow Dhurandar craze has spread quietly & invisibly to all parts of Pakistan and got them addicted. Even CoviD wasn't this viral.
 
Honestly speaking, in the movie it seems people are unfortunately vibing with the villain, this is exactly why its stupid to show them with aura if you are making a patriotic movie, and that’s what the director has done here, everyone has praised Akshay Khanna and his performance.

Similar issues happened in past showing Mumbai gangsters as some cool dudes, unfortunate but that’s how movies work I guess in all industries.

As a propaganda URI was way better than this, obviously Vicky is a better actor than Ranveer so probably due to that.
Rehman Dukait played by Akshay Khanna, looks more like Robin Hood type of character , if you dig deeper.
 
Bollywood is obsessed with Pakistan because India is obsessed with Pakistan.

I think it has to do with inferiority complex. India is not in the same level as China, Japan, South Korea, western countries, or gulf states. So, India want to feel better by being obsessed about Pakistan.

Also, 800 years of Mughal rule probably made them very salty. :inti
 
Bollywood is obsessed with Pakistan because India is obsessed with Pakistan.

I think it has to do with inferiority complex. India is not in the same level as China, Japan, South Korea, western countries, or gulf states. So, India want to feel better by being obsessed about Pakistan.

Also, 800 years of Mughal rule probably made them very salty. :inti
Andhbhakts calling Pakistan obsessed is comedy gold. You dig up random Pakistani figures, make movies on them, and then cry about Pakistan being obsessed with Bollywood. Why not make films on criminals produced at home? Lawrence Bishnoi or Tadipar, for example? Too scared? Reality is simple, slap ‘Pakistan’ on anything and it sells in India. Andhbhakhts can't boycott Pakistan, whether it's cricket (ask @Rajdeep :kp) or cinema. Hypocrisy and obsession, fully exposed. :yk :inti
 
Just coming out of theatre after watching Dhurandar. What a movie...what brilliant acting by everyone. They have shown nothing but truth in it.

One thing I dont understand, why Pakistanis and Indian muslims are getting upset or why this movie is banned in UAE? They have shown nothing anti muslim or even anti Pakistan. Just shown the gang wars of Lyari.
 
So i just watched Dhurandhar, and i have to say its an over hyped film.

The producers probably realized this movie was a terrible one, so they decided their luck on releasing that Akshay Khana's walk on social media and that single social media created created a massive hype that forced people to start flocking to cinemas and helped it gain a false bravado. Pakistani influencers and meme pages also helped in spreading the memes and videos of the movie.

The movie lacked any dialogues, script or complete sense. Akhshay Khana had no dialogue. In the whole movie he kept one facial expression and thats it. All the speaking was done by Ranveer Singh, who only send nonsense. Sanjay Dutt's character barely got any screentime, and his story did not even fit in the arc. The only good acting that was done was by Arjun Rampal. His portrayal of Ilyas Kashmiri was just mind blowing. His dialogues were well written, and i loved how Rampal did not hesitate saying those dialogues as Indian actors tend to hesitate saying anything anti Indian.

The movie was a mess. Basically there were 3 sides, one was to attack Pakistan, the other was to attack India and the third was internal one where a police officer wanted to kill Rehman Dakait for no reason.

If you want to make all 3 story lines to connect, than atleast give it a proper story and bring a proper connection to it. Dutt's character had no purpose basically.
 
Movies and music are soft power. Many muslim nations and asians watch dubbed version of indian films, thats powerful in the long run, you can set narratives.
 
Bollywood's obsession with Pakistan is a relatively recent [ post-2014 ] phenomenon. On the other hand, Pakistani fanaticism with everything Bollywood is rather old ...
 
Am astounded to see that how some people have watched the movie (mostly Indian friends) and yet they are unable to understand it :))) Ohky so lemme elaborate on the basis of some ground facts please.

I like entertaining, spy movies. I watched the movie and i must say it is indeed entertaining (too long though). offcourse it is propaganda based movie but it does contain many truths too which i believe is a good mixture so nothing bad in it.

Who ever are the casting directors, they messed it up big big big times ngl. Sets are pretty good i would say they way they have shown Karachi, aint that bad.

And yes, there is ISLAMOPHOBIA, there definitely is. Anyone saying Allah o Akbar aint terrorist bruh :))) Ohky so yeah both countries hate each other, i dont mind if they portray Pakistani as terrorists or whatever, but i am unable to digest one thing that how on earth they somehow show Indian Muslims as Pakistanis???

Not one person in Pakistan wears sleeveless Kameez, that tons of Surma Kajal, that horrendous level of Adaab, saying "FAY" instead of "Pay" no one does that in Pakistan. Yeah Indian Muslims do that though, so indirectly bollywood directions portray their own citizens (Muslims) as terrorists and its awful.

The HERO (Joke Character) saying tons of wrong Urdu words. Who the hell says AFSHOOSH in Pakistan? :))) Ranveer was supposed to be hero, but that character play was awful, yall know other characters got famous instead of him.

And, lol Chaudhary Aslam (KHAN) was PATHAN, not Punjabi dumbos.

Movie is based on LYARI right? But they couldnt even mention Makranis which are the core of Lyari (Donga character).

They covered the Amman Committee stuff pretty good, they were legit murderers. And dahhh, arabic song over Balochi dance is next level funny :)))

And the whole movie got famous because of Pakistani Villian.

Lastly, so finally indians HERE, agrees that Indians (Govt) also invovled in Cross border terrorism, coz their SPY wreaked havoc in Karachi for months and lots of innocent people died coz of it.

@DeadlyVenom @Cpt. Rishwat @KingKhanWC @Major @Bewal Express @Rana @Slim @shaz619 @HalBass9 @RedwoodOriginal @emranabbas @IAJ @gazza619 @Bhaijaan @Bhaag Viru Bhaag @Rajdeep
 
Just coming out of theatre after watching Dhurandar. What a movie...what brilliant acting by everyone. They have shown nothing but truth in it.

One thing I dont understand, why Pakistanis and Indian muslims are getting upset or why this movie is banned in UAE? They have shown nothing anti muslim or even anti Pakistan. Just shown the gang wars of Lyari.
The answer of your question is in the first sentence of your post.

You dont live in Pakistan, and based on a movie you have made a claim that this movie showed nothing but the truth.

The movie starts off with saying that whoever controls lyari, controls karachi, and whoever controls Karachi controls Pakistan. You need to understand the Pakistani political dynamics. The power influence of Pakistan is from Punjab, particularly from Lahore. Whichever party withs from Punjab gets to become the PM. Punjab has the most seats and if you only win Punjab and lost out in the other three provinces, that is still good enough for getting the PMship. So the whole notion of lyari = controlling Pakistan is very stupid.

Chalo, even if i talk about this in the context of 2008, in 2008 PPP was very famous in Pakistan for its resistance against the Army. And when Benazir died, their win was guaranteed as people were going to vote for PPP no matter what. So Lyari being PPP's seat or not did not really matter, as that was Nabil gabools area anyways.

Lyari is a small area, yes it has gang violence going on in that area only and not in whole Karachi. To say Mumbai attack happened through Lyari is very dumb thing to say.

Mumbai attacks was conducted by rogue ISI, not by Pakistani politicians. For Pakistani politicians or govt to conduct Mumbai attacks that would mean Asif Zardari had to be involved directly, but remember Zardari was willing to share intelligence on the aftermath of the attack with India, it was the army that stopped him.

Also, Pakistan does not have illegal weapons manufacturing going on in Karachi. Illegal weapons making in an urban city is laughable. We do have illegal weapons being made, but that is in Dara Adamkhel, which is in KPK. Than regarding the purchase of weapons, it makes more sense to purchase weapons from the KPK pashtuns than from balochis in Balochistan.

Than along with all this, Nabil Gabool is not some buffoon idiot, he is one of the most dangerous people from Lyari. Along with that if you want an accurate picture on Chaudhry Aslam, his role was more like of Sanjays role in Shootout in Lookhandwala. Basically, he would do target killing of criminals who would get away through courts. So he would do extradjudicial killings. He had nothing against any ethnic group.

If you want to learn about Lyari, watch documentaries on it covered by TCM (The Centrum media) on youtube. You can also learn about Dara Adam Khel weapons industry from Vice on youtube
 
Am astounded to see that how some people have watched the movie (mostly Indian friends) and yet they are unable to understand it :))) Ohky so lemme elaborate on the basis of some ground facts please.

I like entertaining, spy movies. I watched the movie and i must say it is indeed entertaining (too long though). offcourse it is propaganda based movie but it does contain many truths too which i believe is a good mixture so nothing bad in it.

Who ever are the casting directors, they messed it up big big big times ngl. Sets are pretty good i would say they way they have shown Karachi, aint that bad.

And yes, there is ISLAMOPHOBIA, there definitely is. Anyone saying Allah o Akbar aint terrorist bruh :))) Ohky so yeah both countries hate each other, i dont mind if they portray Pakistani as terrorists or whatever, but i am unable to digest one thing that how on earth they somehow show Indian Muslims as Pakistanis???

Not one person in Pakistan wears sleeveless Kameez, that tons of Surma Kajal, that horrendous level of Adaab, saying "FAY" instead of "Pay" no one does that in Pakistan. Yeah Indian Muslims do that though, so indirectly bollywood directions portray their own citizens (Muslims) as terrorists and its awful.

The HERO (Joke Character) saying tons of wrong Urdu words. Who the hell says AFSHOOSH in Pakistan? :))) Ranveer was supposed to be hero, but that character play was awful, yall know other characters got famous instead of him.

And, lol Chaudhary Aslam (KHAN) was PATHAN, not Punjabi dumbos.

Movie is based on LYARI right? But they couldnt even mention Makranis which are the core of Lyari (Donga character).

They covered the Amman Committee stuff pretty good, they were legit murderers. And dahhh, arabic song over Balochi dance is next level funny :)))

And the whole movie got famous because of Pakistani Villian.

Lastly, so finally indians HERE, agrees that Indians (Govt) also invovled in Cross border terrorism, coz their SPY wreaked havoc in Karachi for months and lots of innocent people died coz of it.

@DeadlyVenom @Cpt. Rishwat @KingKhanWC @Major @Bewal Express @Rana @Slim @shaz619 @HalBass9 @RedwoodOriginal @emranabbas @IAJ @gazza619 @Bhaijaan @Bhaag Viru Bhaag @Rajdeep
At the end of the day it is a movie. We don't watch Hollywood films expecting historical realism or facts ,why should we have such high expectations from Bollywood, which even Indians admit is low quality and caters to the lowest possible denomination of Indian film fans.

Any Pakistan who watches their movies and expects a factually accurate drama is naive. i am lucky to say I have never really watched one in entirety, only watched some clips. Their songs and worships make it boring for me.

Far better to avoid it entirely, but if you do decide to part with your hard-earned time/cash and view, then come on, man, view it as a movie rather than a documentary.
 
Assalamwalekum Lyari!

Just came back from the theatre. Oh My Ganesha! What a movie yar.

Turns out the movie wasn’t Anti Pakistan, Islamophobic or anything the negative propaganda around it was referring to.

Phenomenal movie.

Full fledged review will follow.
 
Assalam walekum Lyari !! :jm

Going to watch the movie tomorrow. Will give me honest comments how Anti Pakistan or Anti Islam the movie really is.



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Appreciate you keep tagging me on the Bollywood stuff bro, but what are the chances you think I will watch it? It's not due to some fake patriotism either, just we British cannot usually stomach the sugary melodrama of Indian cinema.
 
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