CA using US troops withdrawal from Afghanistan excuse to avoid touring Pakistan

[ahsan17]

So why did they make losses if the tours were profitable in 2016 and 2017. Why are they going to make profits in 2018 and 2019?

You can keep your eyes shut but its evident that the tours in 2016 and 2017 were not profitable for ECB.

We don't know if there were other reasons why 2016 and 2017 were not profitable. You are drawing your own conclusion here that isn't mentioned in the article, but your initial framing suggested the article drew the conclusion as well - it obviously doesn't.

 

[cricketjoshila]

We don't know if there were other reasons why 2016 and 2017 were not profitable. You are drawing your own conclusion here that isn't mentioned in the article, but your initial framing suggested the article drew the conclusion as well - it obviously doesn't.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/464184/ecb-turnover/

The reason for losses were considerable drop in revenue.

In the years that India toured ECB makes a revenue of 170mn plus. It drops to 120 to 130mn when India or Australia dont tour.

India tour revenue is only surpassed in 2019-20 when ECB had both the ashes and the world cup.

 

[HitWicket]

So why did they make losses if the tours were profitable in 2016 and 2017. Why are they going to make profits in 2018 and 2019?

You can keep your eyes shut but its evident that the tours in 2016 and 2017 were not profitable for ECB.

The ECB spend millions each year on costs that aren't part of the international tours. It's not evident at all, it's your own made up fact that funnily enough you have no evidence at all to back up.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The ECB spend millions each year on costs that aren't part of the international tours. It's not evident at all, it's your own made up fact that funnily enough you have no evidence at all to back up.

ECB makes significantly less revenue when India or Australia dont tour.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/464184/ecb-turnover/

Its pretty evident here. As i said, the rest of the tours are loss making for ECB as it shows on their balance sheet.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The ECB spend millions each year on costs that aren't part of the international tours. It's not evident at all, it's your own made up fact that funnily enough you have no evidence at all to back up.

That's what loss is. Isnt it? The tour doesn't generate enough revenues to offset the amount of money ECB has to spend in that year.

 

[HitWicket]

ECB makes significantly less revenue when India or Australia dont tour.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/464184/ecb-turnover/

True, doesn't prove anything in relation to your claim though. Nowhere have I suggested that India or Australia tours don't make more profit or turnover than other tours.

Its pretty evident here. As i said, the rest of the tours are loss making for ECB as it shows on their balance sheet.

No it doesn't. Please point out to me the points on any ECB balance sheets where they state the turnover related to any non-India/Australia tour is less than the costs for that tour. Again, you're coming to your own false conclusions and can't provide any proof to back it.

 

[HitWicket]

That's what loss is. Isnt it? The tour doesn't generate enough revenues to offset the amount of money ECB has to spend in that year.

That's the business as a whole making a loss, not the tours as you claimed. You judge the profits made by a tour based on the revenue and costs of that tour, not all of the businesses revenue and costs from the year.

 

[Gilly]

No match played in Pakistan in over 2 decades is really bad form on the part of the Aussies. For a global leader in the sport, that is extremely poor.

this is the reason.

Protests can take place throughout Pakistan with little warning and turn violent quickly. You should avoid demonstrations, large crowds of people and public events. See Safety and security

Some periods of the year may pose heightened risks. During holy periods/religious holidays, there is an increased potential for targeted attacks, including on western interests and religious minorities.

Terrorists are very likely to try to carry out attacks in Pakistan. There’s a high threat of terrorism, kidnap and sectarian violence throughout the country, including the major cities of Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Lahore and Karachi. Foreigners, in particular westerners, may be directly targeted. You should be vigilant, try to avoid all crowds and public events including political gatherings and religious events throughout Pakistan, and take appropriate security precautions

.

 

[ahsan17]

this is the reason.

.

They seem to be living 5-10 years in the past. Or at least that's their excuse. You can probably count on one or two fingers the terrorist attacks that have happened in all the mentioned cities combined in the last 3-4 years. Also, despite them pointing out specifically that westerners may be directly targeted, there have very few if any instance of westerners being targeted directly.

 

[Mesozoic]

Aren't their Aussie troops too in Afghanistan?

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

CA will go by the threat analysis of their intelligence and advice from Home Affairs.
Don't see them touring Pakistan anytime soon..
.
Maybe Pakistan/PCB should threaten them of some consequences..

 

[ahsan17]

CA will go by the threat analysis of their intelligence and advice from Home Affairs.
Don't see them touring Pakistan anytime soon..
.
Maybe Pakistan/PCB should threaten them of some consequences..

Technically anyone can invent or overimagine threats, like Australia is doing. You are right, PCB probably need to do something similar in response.

 

[King-Misbah]

this is the reason.

.

Australia needs to sort it out, Pakistan has vloggers all over Pakistan exploring the country. In actual fact, there is an Australian vlogger called Luke in Pakistan now. He is only 20 years old and travelling alone. Pakistan is safe for him but not for more mature adults who are provided the best security. This hypocrisy will not be pleasantly looked at. Aussys need to stop coming to the PSL too if they firmly believe in this rubbish. Seems like Aussy cricketers would do anything for money ��

 

[Adil_94]

[MENTION=732]Gilly[/MENTION] where u getting this Pakistanis hate Aussies from ?

Most Pakistanis only exposure to Aussies is via Cricket n because of that there is a respect for the Aussie cricket team.

Its Americans who are disliked n nowadays French as well.

But most people are neutral or positive to Australia as a country in Pakistan

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

ECB makes significantly less revenue when India or Australia dont tour.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/464184/ecb-turnover/

Its pretty evident here. As i said, the rest of the tours are loss making for ECB as it shows on their balance sheet.

What is your solution then? Big 3 just play matches between themselves?

 

[ahmedzee]

You have to remember that Pakistani people don't like Australians, there is a lot of distrust also between the governments. With the bad blood between the two countries it is probably best for both to cool their heels instead of getting into a situation where another controversy will put yet another scar on cricket. Cricket will always survive and thrive so just let both teams go about their business without getting into a culture war.

Wow, good job in the bunch of ** you just pulled off. So let me give some clear cut facts to you.
It should be Pakistanis who should be refusing to play Australia due to security situation. Lets not forget about increasing attacks against Pakistan (and Indian) students in Australia. Moreover, a disgusting incident happened back in 2010 (or one of the tours) where a Pakistan player was hands on attacked on the field in the middle of the game (it was Khalid Latif who was attacked).

So historical records show that Pakistani players are unsafe in Australia, and Australian players are quite safe in Pakistan.

Would be interested to know what you think. I just gave you facts. Try to give me some rather than things you see in your dream.

 

[cricketjoshila]

What is your solution then? Big 3 just play matches between themselves?

There is no solution. India and Ashes will continue to help ECB offset the losses made from other tours.

 

[Gilly]

Wow, good job in the bunch of ** you just pulled off. So let me give some clear cut facts to you.
It should be Pakistanis who should be refusing to play Australia due to security situation. Lets not forget about increasing attacks against Pakistan (and Indian) students in Australia. Moreover, a disgusting incident happened back in 2010 (or one of the tours) where a Pakistan player was hands on attacked on the field in the middle of the game (it was Khalid Latif who was attacked).

So historical records show that Pakistani players are unsafe in Australia, and Australian players are quite safe in Pakistan.

Would be interested to know what you think. I just gave you facts. Try to give me some rather than things you see in your dream.

I did propose that Pakistan refuse to play Australia until they play in Pakistan.

The rest is just hot air.

 

[Varun]

Nearly as atrocious an excuse as Bangladesh using that US droning of the Iranian general to avoid touring Pakistan in early-2020.

 

[SangasCoverDrive]

Nearly as atrocious an excuse as Bangladesh using that US droning of the Iranian general to avoid touring Pakistan in early-2020.

And they wanted to play in UAE, the same country which Iran threatened to drop bombs on.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

There is no solution. India and Ashes will continue to help ECB offset the losses made from other tours.

Then they are doing it of their own volition so shut up and get on with it.

 

[SangasCoverDrive]

With current situation in Afghanistan which is getting worse with every hour, I won't be surprised if it turns out to be true.