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Can Pakistan still qualify for the semi-finals of the 2017 Champions Trophy?

I thought the venue was Birmingham - it's Oval, forecast is decent.

Washout between India and SL would mean SA v India is a SF quakifier match, so long as we beat SL the day after
 
I think the most likely scenario is that India will beat SL. If that happens, we have to win against Sri Lanka, and can qualify regardless of the India vs South Africa game. Don't let NRR fool you. With only 3 games, it can fluctuate dramatically.

For example, if SA beat India, we would have to cross the lowest NRR out of the two, which might not be as difficult as some posters seem to believe. If India beats SA (more likely based on current form), then we will be through as long as we win. Losing to Sri Lanka will almost be a certain exit based on NRR.

This group is COMPLETELY wide open at this point, with India & Pak slight favorites to qualify.
 
If India loses out of semis due to rain, the hell will break lose on world cricket. Trust me on that.

India won't miss out due to rain but due to losing to SA if it comes to that, no hell will break lose, we should beat SA if we want to qualify, our fate is in our hands
 
I think the most likely scenario is that India will beat SL. If that happens, we have to win against Sri Lanka, and can qualify regardless of the India vs South Africa game. Don't let NRR fool you. With only 3 games, it can fluctuate dramatically.

For example, if SA beat India, we would have to cross the lowest NRR out of the two, which might not be as difficult as some posters seem to believe. If India beats SA (more likely based on current form), then we will be through as long as we win. Losing to Sri Lanka will almost be a certain exit based on NRR.

This group is COMPLETELY wide open at this point, with India & Pak slight favorites to qualify.

If India beat SL and South Africa beat India then Pak will most likely miss out regardless of their result because NRR was completely destroyed by India :msd
 
Most Likely scenario

India will beat Sri Lanka
India will beat SA

India goes through

Sri Lanka beat Pakistan

Pakistan, Sri Lanka and South Africa end with 2 points
The team with the best NRR will occupy the number 2 spot
 
Most Likely scenario

India will beat Sri Lanka
India will beat SA

India goes through

Sri Lanka beat Pakistan

Pakistan, Sri Lanka and South Africa end with 2 points
The team with the best NRR will occupy the number 2 spot

In short, the team which received the least phainty from India goes through :yk
 
SA cannot beat this Indian team, if they couldn't handle Pakistan bowler then they will not stand a chance against Indian pacers who are better than Pakistans

I would say that the Indian spinners Jadeja and Ashwin are better than the Pakistani spinners too.
 
Would be great for the group if SL win tomorrow.

Pretty much would mean Ind vs SA on Sunday and Pakistan vs SL on Monday would be KO matches.
 
Most Likely scenario

India will beat Sri Lanka
India will beat SA

India goes through

Sri Lanka beat Pakistan

Pakistan, Sri Lanka and South Africa end with 2 points
The team with the best NRR will occupy the number 2 spot

Sri Lanka beating Pakistan is likely? Not saying SL would be an easy win but Pakistan has a clear advantage.
 
I think we will get through. India will beat South Africa, and I'm confident Pakistan will beat Sri Lanka.
 
India to win both their remaining games. Pakistan to beat Sri Lanka.

Both India and Pakistan go through.
 
To be fair, Pakistan in their current state have no chance of beating the Saffers. I think that man for man, the Saffers are as good as the Indians if not better.

The only hope for Pakistan will be to beat SL, and pray that the match against SA is washed out.

Cough cough
 
My concern is that India, Pak and RSA will all finish with two wins. That will make it really complicated and nerve wracking.
 
My concern is that India, Pak and RSA will all finish with two wins. That will make it really complicated and nerve wracking.

Pakistan has to hand shellacking to SL. Even then it will be tricky as India can beat SL just as convincingly. Their 100 plus run defeat against India cannot easily be offset in one match.
 
Pakistan has to hand shellacking to SL. Even then it will be tricky as India can beat SL just as convincingly. Their 100 plus run defeat against India cannot easily be offset in one match.

I just hope India play to win against RSA if they defeat Sri Lanka. Should they win both their matches all we need to do is win against Sri Lanka. RSA getting one or no points in a rain effected match will also do as well providing we win our last match. It's gonna be tight I feel.
 
I hope SL wins today against India. This would mean we have virtual quarter finals in Group B

That would be the best scenario
 
I've stated it in many other threads We Will Bash Sri Lanka! All we need is to hope India can beat South Africa.

England vs Pakistan Semi Final coming up!
 
If we beat Sri Lanka and India beat South Africa we're through. Any other outcome we're out, we aren't getting through by RR with one game to play. India's already got a healthy run rate lead would need an absolute disaster for their Run rate to drop below us even if we get a big win against Sri Lanka.

South Africa are on paper the best team this tournament IMO for these conditions. But tbh think they will lose to India too, India are stronger mentally in tournaments and India are an excellent ODI side. Really AB should have stepped down from captaincy and let Faf take it.
 
My concern is that India, Pak and RSA will all finish with two wins. That will make it really complicated and nerve wracking.

Dont see think this will happen, but if it does we are almost certainly out. SA's run rate will improve with a win against India. And India's run rate atm is so high it isnt going to drop low enough for Pak to edge in.

We need an Indian win. In fact think our chances of getting through by us losing to Sri Lanka and South Africa losing are better than us winning against SL and South Africa winning against India. We really are relying on India to win, otherwise we are almost certainly out.
 
Would be great for the group if SL win tomorrow.

Pretty much would mean Ind vs SA on Sunday and Pakistan vs SL on Monday would be KO matches.

Is that true? SL look pretty well placed at the moment although no doubt India are still favourites.
 
Dont see think this will happen, but if it does we are almost certainly out. SA's run rate will improve with a win against India. And India's run rate atm is so high it isnt going to drop low enough for Pak to edge in.

We need an Indian win. In fact think our chances of getting through by us losing to Sri Lanka and South Africa losing are better than us winning against SL and South Africa winning against India. We really are relying on India to win, otherwise we are almost certainly out.

Yeah that's what I thought.
 
Yes - but, target could be too stiff.

We just need to win against SL to qualify. Because the looser of India and SA will leave the tournament with only 2 points.

We already have two points, If we win against SL, Points will go up to 4.
 

:))) :))) India themselves trolled up a storm 6-12 hours before this game, with Viru's comments and everything that was being said regarding poor old SL and their cricketing capabilities on their TV shows. There is a fine line between having banter and being down right condescending and overconfident.

Serves them right for Karma to come back and bite them in the rear !!
 
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