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Seems he is unable to come up with anything resembling a plan when faced with a difficult situation; Also is he actually able to lead with confidence?

Could be early days but fact is that this does not augur well for Multan Sultans.

So what does he need to do to improve as a captain?
 
lol, that's a bit of an exaggeration, no?

Look at the bowlers at his disposal.
 
1. Who selected him in the first place?
2. Why was he made the captain this year?

He's clearly not meant to play professional cricket. Okay, if you insist he can, then he has absolutely no business playing ODIs or even worse, T20s.

Just not good enough. Never considered for the national T20 team either.

Who and what got him in the side.

Who and why made him the captain?
 
Can't bat

Can't captain

Now can't field either. Dropped a sitter.
 
And he just dropped a catch...

Regarding his captaincy, I guess we'll get to see more during the tournament. But I'm not convinced that he is a first choice opener, thus him being captain is strange anyway.

MS have a pretty poor bowling attack, I feel. Though the spin attack is decent.
 
Nasty Naz said:
lol, that's a bit of an exaggeration, no?

Look at the bowlers at his disposal.
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Tanvir and Irfan have been few of the most sort after pacers in T20 leagues and Tanvir has probably played for every country’s T20 competition at one point of time. Yes might be a bit old now but then they have couple of other pacers on the bench and could have selected some others in the draft if they thought the current ones in their squad weren’t good.

Afridi and Imran are top T20 leggies and their economies and stats can be checked. Moen Ali is a decent player as well.

So not sure the bowlers are that bad at all.
 
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2nd parchi captain alongside Shadab , he doesn’t merit a spot in the team never mind the leadership role ..
 
I was expecting better leadership from Shan but then its early in the competition, will have to see how he goes. Initial signs havent been encouraging.
 
Titan24 said:
Tanvir and Irfan have been few of the most sort after pacers in T20 leagues and Tanvir has probably played for every country’s T20 competition at one point of time. Yes might be a bit old now but then they have couple of other pacers on the bench and could have selected some others in the draft if they thought the current ones in their squad weren’t good.

Afridi and Imran are top T20 leggies and their economies and stats can be checked. Moen Ali is a decent player as well.

So not sure the bowlers are that bad at all.
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All over the hill bowlers.Needed some pace like Musa Shaheen.
 
DRsohail said:
All over the hill bowlers.Needed some pace like Musa Shaheen.
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Agreed. Definitely lacking some pace. Even the ones on the bench like Junaid Khan and Ali Shafiq arent known for their pace.
 
Titan24 said:
Tanvir and Irfan have been few of the most sort after pacers in T20 leagues and Tanvir has probably played for every country’s T20 competition at one point of time. Yes might be a bit old now but then they have couple of other pacers on the bench and could have selected some others in the draft if they thought the current ones in their squad weren’t good.

Afridi and Imran are top T20 leggies and their economies and stats can be checked. Moen Ali is a decent player as well.

So not sure the bowlers are that bad at all.
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Yes, they are super old and experienced. And over the hill. And like 40 years old. Afridi is what, like 45 years old? Lol come on.

None of them are International level caliber anymore and Ali is basically a batter who can bowl a bit and hope he doesn't kill you.
 
He shouldn't even be playing PSL let alone captaining. Disgrace.
 
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The problem is that Multan have now put themselves in a situation where they've made him captain and will most probably play him in all of their matches.

What should really be happening is that Zeeshan Ashraf should be opening, Moeen Ali or Shahid Afridi should be captain, with Shan watching the tournament on his TV at home.
 
Saj said:
The problem is that Multan have now put themselves in a situation where they've made him captain and will most probably play him in all of their matches.

What should really be happening is that Zeeshan Ashraf should be opening, Moeen Ali or Shahid Afridi should be captain, with Shan watching the tournament on his TV at home.
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And not to forget Moen Ali has been leading Worcestershire in Natwest T20 blast exceptionally well in the last couple of seasons and that too with pretty limited resources at his disposal. When he was selected I thought Moen will be the captain but it wasnt to be I guess.
 
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Titan24 said:
And not to forget Moen Ali has been leading Worcestershire in Natwest T20 blast exceptionally well in the last couple of seasons and that too with pretty limited resources at his disposal. When he was selected I thought Moen will be the captain but it wasnt to be I guess.
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It seems that some of the teams are reluctant to appoint foreign captains, which to me is a miscalculation.
 
Looks like someone was looking for an opportunity to write this kind of post for Shann. He won a game yesterday and did a good job in leading his side. Today Munro and Ronchi won the game for IU and there was nothing wrong with Shaan's captaincy.
 
Saj said:
The problem is that Multan have now put themselves in a situation where they've made him captain and will most probably play him in all of their matches.

What should really be happening is that Zeeshan Ashraf should be opening, Moeen Ali or Shahid Afridi should be captain, with Shan watching the tournament on his TV at home.
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Summed it up well. The media will probably pick up on this if Shan doesnt up his strike rate.
 
Saj said:
It seems that some of the teams are reluctant to appoint foreign captains, which to me is a miscalculation.
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Mccullam was a catastrophic failure for Lahore Qalandars. A total fraud infact, so much so that LQ sent him packing after 2 seasons.
 
Saj said:
The problem is that Multan have now put themselves in a situation where they've made him captain and will most probably play him in all of their matches.

What should really be happening is that Zeeshan Ashraf should be opening, Moeen Ali or Shahid Afridi should be captain, with Shan watching the tournament on his TV at home.
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That will allow Rohail Nazir to find a place in the midle order also.
 
Savak said:
Mccullam was a catastrophic failure for Lahore Qalandars. A total fraud infact, so much so that LQ sent him packing after 2 seasons.
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That doesn't mean all foreign captains will be poor.
 
Agreed. He is depriving a potential Pak opener Zeeshan Ashraf from opening the innings. By own his admission, Zeeshan has never played in the middle order before, so this is like preparing him for failure.

He can either do it by opening with Zeeshan and playing Bopara over Vince and if he is such a fan of Vince, let Zeeshan open with Vince and himself move to #3.
 
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moghul said:
Looks like someone was looking for an opportunity to write this kind of post for Shann. He won a game yesterday and did a good job in leading his side. Today Munro and Ronchi won the game for IU and there was nothing wrong with Shaan's captaincy.
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He shouldn't even be playing let alone captaining the side.
 
Whilst I do agree he shouldn't really be playing, let alone given captaincy, I do think that we need to give the Pakistani players a chance to try and develop their captaincy and leadership. Let's see if he learns from his mistakes and improves in the coming games
 
James Vince has been Hampshire captain since 2016. He would have been a better appointment. He also is a very god LO player.
 
Shaandar Captain :)))

Multan and lahore Qalanders are undoubtedly the worst sides ever. Lahore had Azhar Ali leading them at one stage. :))
 
Shan averages 21 in T20's with a SR of 114 - I'm not sure why anyone expected him to do better going up against better quality bowlers in higher pressure situations in the PSL.

Looks like some of these captaincy decisions are made entirely on who is most presentable. Even if his captaincy is okay, it'll look much worse when he keeps failing with the bat
 
Ahmed_99 said:
Whilst I do agree he shouldn't really be playing, let alone given captaincy, I do think that we need to give the Pakistani players a chance to try and develop their captaincy and leadership. Let's see if he learns from his mistakes and improves in the coming games
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We need a captain for test team and there are not too many options. Shaan could be the one to take over from useless Azhar Ali.
 
He is a mediocre player and mediocre players shouldn't lead any sides. PCB wants to make him captain due to his connections.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shan Masood on criticism of choosing him as captain for Multan Sultans "it's a collective decision and a team decision to appoint who they think should be the captain" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL2020</a> <a href="https://t.co/ASSywSELHH">pic.twitter.com/ASSywSELHH</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1232337825955303426?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
YK was mediocre player too before becoming vice captain in 2004.
I think these judgements are better to be passed once the tournament is over. Give some one time to execute his plans. After 2/3 games people are questioning a newbie.
 
Ahmed_99 said:
Whilst I do agree he shouldn't really be playing, let alone given captaincy, I do think that we need to give the Pakistani players a chance to try and develop their captaincy and leadership. Let's see if he learns from his mistakes and improves in the coming games
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Sensible post our fans are too quick to judge, no one is born as captain you develop from your experiences. Same goes as a player there is no reason why he cannot develop his T20 game.
 
SensiblePakFan said:
The ball swings, and Shan suddenly cant play. So obvious he shouldnt be in this tournament.
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His selection in Test is debatable but his selection in T20, never mind as a captain, is a massive joke. He should be sitting and watching this from the living room except he's made the captain.
 
Whilst greater tests await , Shan the test batsman is a much improved version and the stats back it up .

However T20 captaincy for a PSL league does not make sense . Whilst one can’t blame him , he barely makes the team as a batsman .
 
Change of franchise ownership but looks like Multan Sultan is still shady. Senior Tareen is already banned by SC.

Why would anyone make Shan captain of a T20 team? Umar Akmal incident is not one-off. It makes you question alot of decisions related to the two really weird teams Sultan and Qalanders.
 
Captain Clueless sitting at the top of the table 4 games in. Marked improvement from last season.

Like I said in the match thread, Shan has steadily improved in every format over the past few years. Primarily a Test player and his form in the longer format has been there for everyone to see.

Everybody knows he's not a T20 player but his mentality and will to improve is commendable. He's been given the responsibility of captaining the side and he's played two good innings in 4 matches now.

Nobody's saying he should be in the Pak T20 squad but the "He doesn't deserve to play for Multan" brigade needs to settle down.

He's managed his resources well so far and hopefully continues to do so.
 
Anchorman said:
Captain Clueless sitting at the top of the table 4 games in. Marked improvement from last season.

Like I said in the match thread, Shan has steadily improved in every format over the past few years. Primarily a Test player and his form in the longer format has been there for everyone to see.

Everybody knows he's not a T20 player but his mentality and will to improve is commendable. He's been given the responsibility of captaining the side and he's played two good innings in 4 matches now.

Nobody's saying he should be in the Pak T20 squad but the "He doesn't deserve to play for Multan" brigade needs to settle down.

He's managed his resources well so far and hopefully continues to do so.
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Nothing to do with Shan Masood. He doesn't deserve to play, that's it.

They have fluked some wins because of some individual performances.

I can guarantee they'll not win the tournament.
 
Top scorer in the first match. Did well again today. Captained the side well. Give credit where it's due. He's done more than enough so far. Certainly enough to justify his selection in the team.

Just because they won't win the tournament doesn't mean their whole campaign was a failure. They were 5th last season. Even a deep run this time will be an improvement.
 
Hawkeye said:
Nothing to do with Shan Masood. He doesn't deserve to play, that's it.

They have fluked some wins because of some individual performances.

I can guarantee they'll not win the tournament.
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Done better than Other team. What else you want?
 
Hawkeye said:
Nothing to do with Shan Masood. He doesn't deserve to play, that's it.

They have fluked some wins because of some individual performances.

I can guarantee they'll not win the tournament.
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Fluke wins? How do you fluke a win by 52 runs in a t20 and top the table with a great run rate?

You were adamant they stay at the bottom of the table. Now you are guaranteeing they won't win.

Today was a team effort. Moeen, Shan, Zeeshan contributed with the bat and every single bowler took at least one wicket. Afridi Tahir Tanvir and Irfan were all great.
 
Shan at least isn't an unsecure ***** like Imad, knows that it's difficult for him to make it to the national T20 team, giving proper chances to Zeeshan, who played as an opener today. Also has persisted with Illyas, giving him ample chances to learn and play at the highest level.
 
Anchorman said:
Top scorer in the first match. Did well again today. Captained the side well. Give credit where it's due. He's done more than enough so far. Certainly enough to justify his selection in the team.

Just because they won't win the tournament doesn't mean their whole campaign was a failure. They were 5th last season. Even a deep run this time will be an improvement.
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Exactly. Despite not being suited to the format he has contributed in 2 out of 4 matches and also captained well.

Took a very good catch today and his captaincy was top notch.

Compare him to other captains such as Darren Sammy and Sohail Akhtar. In fact, the only captain who has led from the front throughout is Sarfaraz and he has been doing it for many seasons now.
 
Hawkeye said:
Nothing to do with Shan Masood. He doesn't deserve to play, that's it.

They have fluked some wins because of some individual performances.

I can guarantee they'll not win the tournament.
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Thought you were one of the better posters around . . with statements like "they have fluked wins" when they sit at the top of the order and have won games convincingly, you lose all objectivity and credibility in your posts . . and begin to sound biased based on your likes/dislikes . .

I don't think many people will disagree with you that Shan isn't a t20 batsman and absolutely shouldn't be anywhere close to the Pak t20 team and I am sure he will never be . . but give credit where its due . .

The team is doing well when on paper they probably have one of the worst squads . .

Irfan, Tanvir, Imran Tahir, Afridi, Bopara are all 35 and above and way past their best . .
Ilyas is below average at best . .
Shan like you say isn't a t20 player . .

That's 75% of your team that's quite mediocre . .

So they've done well thus far and there's no harm in accepting that even though we all know you despise Shan Masood in all formats . .

As far as your prediction about "guaranteeing they won't win the tournament" is concerned . . hardly proving anything there . . they shouldn't be winning this tournament . . with the team they've got, they should be at the bottom of the table . .

Currently, they're punching above their weight . .
 
To much hate for Shan ! Batted well today , led well and is also giving youngsters a chance to shine . They might not even make the play offs but Shan has this far not disgraced himself .
 
NauV said:
Thought you were one of the better posters around . . with statements like "they have fluked wins" when they sit at the top of the order and have won games convincingly, you lose all objectivity and credibility in your posts . . and begin to sound biased based on your likes/dislikes . .

I don't think many people will disagree with you that Shan isn't a t20 batsman and absolutely shouldn't be anywhere close to the Pak t20 team and I am sure he will never be . . but give credit where its due . .

The team is doing well when on paper they probably have one of the worst squads . .

Irfan, Tanvir, Imran Tahir, Afridi, Bopara are all 35 and above and way past their best . .
Ilyas is below average at best . .
Shan like you say isn't a t20 player . .

That's 75% of your team that's quite mediocre . .

So they've done well thus far and there's no harm in accepting that even though we all know you despise Shan Masood in all formats . .

As far as your prediction about "guaranteeing they won't win the tournament" is concerned . . hardly proving anything there . . they shouldn't be winning this tournament . . with the team they've got, they should be at the bottom of the table . .

Currently, they're punching above their weight . .
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He won't reply to actual logical posts. If you see his style, it is basically to make absurd random claims and then when someone counters his point he doesn't reply and moves to a different thread.

He is salty because of the relative performance of Islamabad vs Multan so far.
 
looks like 2nd best captain in this tournament after Sarfraz
 
I have been bashing him alot but have to admit he is doing better than both Imad and Shadab as captain. He is hardworking, wish he had some natural batting talent.
 
Shan Masood is extracting performance out of an over the hill (past it) bunch of retirees so it is praiseworthy stuff.

He isn't a T20 player and T20 doesn't come to him naturally but lets be honest, as a Captain he has done well
 
Very calm and composed, never seem rattled by the situation although Multan hasnt been really put under pressure here. Its a learning curve for him but so far so good, he is sitting pretty at the top.
 
He will stay in Pak test team for long time and his performances will get even better. I would not mind him as a test captain in years time.
 
the MULAN SULTANS set-up is really good. they are stats driven, have ANDY FLOWER as coach, have a bunch of analysts. and most importantly they have backed SHAN MASOOD as captain. when you get that kind of confidence and clear-headed planning from the management it makes things easier for you. have a feeling MULTAN will do well this time and the most visible reason for that is how they seem to outshine certain teams key areas like; planning, decision-making, strategy.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
the MULAN SULTANS set-up is really good. they are stats driven, have ANDY FLOWER as coach, have a bunch of analysts. and most importantly they have backed SHAN MASOOD as captain. when you get that kind of confidence and clear-headed planning from the management it makes things easier for you. have a feeling MULTAN will do well this time and the most visible reason for that is how they seem to outshine certain teams key areas like; planning, decision-making, strategy.
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Agreed. These guys look focused and they have the right platinum pick in Moeen Ali. Best player in PSL roster IMO
 
NauV said:
Thought you were one of the better posters around . . with statements like "they have fluked wins" when they sit at the top of the order and have won games convincingly, you lose all objectivity and credibility in your posts . . and begin to sound biased based on your likes/dislikes . .

I don't think many people will disagree with you that Shan isn't a t20 batsman and absolutely shouldn't be anywhere close to the Pak t20 team and I am sure he will never be . . but give credit where its due . .

The team is doing well when on paper they probably have one of the worst squads . .

Irfan, Tanvir, Imran Tahir, Afridi, Bopara are all 35 and above and way past their best . .
Ilyas is below average at best . .
Shan like you say isn't a t20 player . .

That's 75% of your team that's quite mediocre . .

So they've done well thus far and there's no harm in accepting that even though we all know you despise Shan Masood in all formats . .

As far as your prediction about "guaranteeing they won't win the tournament" is concerned . . hardly proving anything there . . they shouldn't be winning this tournament . . with the team they've got, they should be at the bottom of the table . .

Currently, they're punching above their weight . .
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Well said
 
Another fluke of a win by captain clueless . .
 
Shaan masood is one of the few players that bring certain level headedness in pakistan's set up. He may not have the greatest batting skills, but he will score at atleast 120-130 SR and allow others to bat around him.

Most importantly, he plays risk free cricket. Much better than sharjeel.

I dont see sharjeel doing well under pressure. Fakhar has been found out as almost half of his shots are lofted hacks.
 
I like the guy, always have. He might not be the most talented athlete on the planet but he comes off as a humble, level headed fellow who tries to learn with every mistake.

Not scared to admit his mistakes and gives credit when due.. Eg the post match interview after the first match when he made it a point to mention that the early run out was his mistake.. And again today mentioning it was actually the managements idea to bring Khishdil on.

Such a breath of fresh air amongst the shezzys and akmals we are used to.
 
khan_aa said:
Shaan masood is one of the few players that bring certain level headedness in pakistan's set up. He may not have the greatest batting skills, but he will score at atleast 120-130 SR and allow others to bat around him.

Most importantly, he plays risk free cricket. Much better than sharjeel.

I dont see sharjeel doing well under pressure. Fakhar has been found out as almost half of his shots are lofted hacks.
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Its about team combination. Pak already has Babar around which everybody can bat and that everybody needs to have big shots under their belt.

Shan, Imam, Haris Sohail, Umer Amin etc cant be in the T20 squad in my opinion when we already have one of the world’s best batsman doing the anchoring job. 120 odd strike rates all around the batting can only produce 140 or maybe 150 odd scores which isnt enough.
 
According to Zeeshan it's Flower who decides the batting order. Not sure why Shan Masood is getting all the credit. The credit he should get is for playing well which he's done.
 
Pakpak said:
According to Zeeshan it's Flower who decides the batting order. Not sure why Shan Masood is getting all the credit. The credit he should get is for playing well which he's done.
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What f shan does not want to come at one down???
 
Pakpak said:
According to Zeeshan it's Flower who decides the batting order. Not sure why Shan Masood is getting all the credit. The credit he should get is for playing well which he's done.
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Captaincy is not about batting order, its about in the ground marshaling your troops, fieldplacing, bowling changes, putting pressures on batsmen by keeping on slips, blocking singles etc
 
You have to give him credit. Everyone thought he was useless but he is using his resources well and improving with the bat. Communication and dealing with the media were never going to be an issue for him as he is well educated and always speaks well.
 
Imran Tahir was his most experienced bowler.

And his captains like to keep his one over to bowl him for 19th or 20th.

These two points, and yet he decided to bowl Tahir for 16th when Watson was taking the game away. This alone is enough to convince me that Shan Masood tactically is a good Captain.
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]
 
NauV said:
Another fluke of a win by captain clueless . .
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How was this a fluke? They won by 30 runs. If thats a fluke than every 30 plus run win is a fluke. Please take a good moment to do soul searching before coming up with such rubbish comments.
 
Shan has been solid as a captain, certainly exceeded the low expectations most had going in to the tournament. That said, I am not sure how much you can judge a captain after 6 to 7 T20's. There have been some exceptional individual performances for Multan, anyone could've easily captained those teams.

That said, I'd take Shan over Imad 100 times out of a 100
 
Good game for shan his decision making was good for example giving his best bowler the 16th over and he delivered for him well done not good enough as a batesman thou
 
Shazzam said:
How was this a fluke? They won by 30 runs. If thats a fluke than every 30 plus run win is a fluke. Please take a good moment to do soul searching before coming up with such rubbish comments.
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I thought the sarcasm was pretty obvious . . clearly not!

Please read my comments above from the thread and you'll know why I posted this based on some of the earlier posts on the thread . .
 
last_knight said:
Imran Tahir was his most experienced bowler.

And his captains like to keep his one over to bowl him for 19th or 20th.

These two points, and yet he decided to bowl Tahir for 16th when Watson was taking the game away. This alone is enough to convince me that Shan Masood tactically is a good Captain.

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]
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I have noticed that the guy is in the hunt of wickets, even when bowling first, which is key in any form of cricket. Apart from the only loss, MS has has always won the game by knocking key wicket (s) at right time, killing the momentum. Today they were defending 200, but in previous games they won, Masood pro-actively went for the kill, which a reactive Captain would have allowed the game to drift on.
 
PakPremi said:
Sensible post our fans are too quick to judge, no one is born as captain you develop from your experiences. Same goes as a player there is no reason why he cannot develop his T20 game.
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As I said he will develop as a captain and a player and he seems to be doing well on both counts.
Lol at those saying management should be credited for on field captaincy decisions, so if he lost those matches would you have blamed the management or Shan Masood. Let me guess the later would get unbelievable hate.
 
Ryw said:
Captaincy is not about batting order, its about in the ground marshaling your troops, fieldplacing, bowling changes, putting pressures on batsmen by keeping on slips, blocking singles etc
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????

People are giving him credit regarding the batting order. Which is what my spot referred to.
 
Shan's list A record is excellent. Surprising to hear people on PP saying he's not suited to limited overs cricket. No research perhaps.
 
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