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Captaincy and Vice Captaincy options for Pakistan in ICC World Cup 2023

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I believe it is too late to change Captain and we should all back Babar as captain for the World Cup 2023. However, I strongly believe that vice-captain should be immediately changed from Shadab to Rizwan. Rizwan as a VC should be given a role to provide leadership to the team from behind the stumps and also help Babar setting the fields/ bowling changes.

This change will have 2 advantages:

1) Shadab will not feel secure and permanent in the team and will work harder on his bowling which is his primary and main role. His batting and fielding is a bonus not a requirement.

2) Wicketkeepers have best vision of the game on the field and plans are created and changed on the field not what management tells a day prior. Rizwan can definitely play a key role in that. However, I would want someone from management to give a lecture to Rizwan to stop being over-enthusiastic and more serious on the field. Team Pakistan needs him to play a key role to gel the team together during tough times in the field. In the current team, only he and Shaheen have some leadership skills and I would want Shaheen to focus on his bowling as premium wicket taker match winner.
 
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I believe it is too late to change Captain and we should all back Babar as captain for the World Cup 2023. However, I strongly believe that vice-captain should be immediately changed from Shadab to Rizwan. Rizwan as a VC should be given a role to provide leadership to the team from behind the stumps and also help Babar setting the fields/ bowling changes.
This change will have 2 advantages:
1) Shadab will not feel secure and permanent in the team and will work harder on his bowling which is his primary and main role. His batting and fielding is a bonus not a requirement.
2) Wicketkeepers have best vision of the game on the field and plans are created and changed on the field not what management tells a day prior. Rizwan can definitely play a key role in that. However, I would want someone from management to give a lecture to Rizwan to stop being over-enthusiastic and more serious on the field. Team Pakistan needs him to play a key role to gel the team together during tough times in the field. In the current team, only he and Shaheen have some leadership skills and I would want Shaheen to focus on his bowling as premium wicket taker match winner.
I agree with you on this
 
I believe it is too late to change Captain and we should all back Babar as captain for the World Cup 2023. However, I strongly believe that vice-captain should be immediately changed from Shadab to Rizwan. Rizwan as a VC should be given a role to provide leadership to the team from behind the stumps and also help Babar setting the fields/ bowling changes.

This change will have 2 advantages:

1) Shadab will not feel secure and permanent in the team and will work harder on his bowling which is his primary and main role. His batting and fielding is a bonus not a requirement.

2) Wicketkeepers have best vision of the game on the field and plans are created and changed on the field not what management tells a day prior. Rizwan can definitely play a key role in that. However, I would want someone from management to give a lecture to Rizwan to stop being over-enthusiastic and more serious on the field. Team Pakistan needs him to play a key role to gel the team together during tough times in the field. In the current team, only he and Shaheen have some leadership skills and I would want Shaheen to focus on his bowling as premium wicket taker match winner.
Can you please give me ONE NAME to replace Shadab as a number 7?
 
If Rizwan ever becomes VC or C, we’ll lose our reviews inside the first 10 overs.

We have no candidates to take over the captaincy, only reasonable option for me would be Imad Wasim.
 
Sorry to be sounding ignorant but what exactly does a vice captain do, fill in for when captain not playing?
 
Fair point.

I'm not sure why Shadab was appointed vice-captain in the first place as he offers very little in the field.

Rizwan would be a far better choice.

RIzwan should be captain and shaheen VC
 
Can you please give me ONE NAME to replace Shadab as a number 7?
We will need to adjust our team a bit. I personally feel that with Naseem out of the World Cup and nobody to replace him with new ball Imad Wasim could be the better choice than Nawaz as Imad can bowl in PP too.
Secondly, Usama Mir comes in as leg spinner to adjust the team combination.

For the sake of better team, Usama and Imad together can replace Shadab and Nawaz.
Imad will bat at No.7 then and play as 5th bowler with Ifti or Agha helping him out
 
If Rizwan ever becomes VC or C, we’ll lose our reviews inside the first 10 overs.

We have no candidates to take over the captaincy, only reasonable option for me would be Imad Wasim.
Nope that won't happen. Human psychology normally suggests that some people like to fire guns from other shoulders. With Babar as captain, Rizwan is too over-enthusiastic but I have seen him captaining sides, he gets quite serious while on the role.
On a funnier note though, reviews are still going away sooner 😂.
 
Sorry to be sounding ignorant but what exactly does a vice captain do, fill in for when captain not playing?
VC offers support to the captain with on field advices. When captain is fielding in the outfield (Babar does that near death overs), somebody has to provide leadership and guidance to the bowlers. Field settings and placements also need to be executed. Wicket keepers have an advantage that they stay close to stumps all 50 overs.
 
VC offers support to the captain with on field advices. When captain is fielding in the outfield (Babar does that near death overs), somebody has to provide leadership and guidance to the bowlers. Field settings and placements also need to be executed. Wicket keepers have an advantage that they stay close to stumps all 50 overs.
If that’s the case , I’ve yet to see (live tv) any input from Shadab. Makes total sense to put Rizwan to at least vice captain (ideally captain)
 
We will need to adjust our team a bit. I personally feel that with Naseem out of the World Cup and nobody to replace him with new ball Imad Wasim could be the better choice than Nawaz as Imad can bowl in PP too.
Secondly, Usama Mir comes in as leg spinner to adjust the team combination.

For the sake of better team, Usama and Imad together can replace Shadab and Nawaz.
Imad will bat at No.7 then and play as 5th bowler with Ifti or Agha helping him out
Have a look at what Imad is doing in the last few matches in the CPL. He has suddenly forgotten how to bat. And he can only bowl in the powerplay, will never take wickets in the middle overs. He can be your 6th bowler but definitely not your 5th.

STOP OVERREACTING. GO WITH THE SAME TEAM THAT WE HAVE BEEN PLAYING FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. WOULD BE FOOLISH TO MAKE MASSIVE CHANGES NOW
 
You cannot change the captain right now , this should have been done 2 years or at least one year back. You have to go with what you have right now.
 
Have a look at what Imad is doing in the last few matches in the CPL. He has suddenly forgotten how to bat. And he can only bowl in the powerplay, will never take wickets in the middle overs. He can be your 6th bowler but definitely not your 5th.

STOP OVERREACTING. GO WITH THE SAME TEAM THAT WE HAVE BEEN PLAYING FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. WOULD BE FOOLISH TO MAKE MASSIVE CHANGES NOW
Typical
 
Retain babar as Captain for world cup. As far as vice captain is concerned, in my opinion Shaheen shah afridi is right person for the job. Lahore qalanders has lifted trophy twice consecutively under his splendid captaincy
 
Captain Rizwan and Vice Captain must be Shaheen Afridi.

Trust me under this leadership the same team must be achieving remarkable results.
 
I don't think it is an ideal time to change the captain ahead of such a big tournament but vice captain can certainly be changed and it is very likely that Shaheen Afridi will be named as the vice captain to replace Shadab Khan. Hopefully, this will make Shadab focus more on his bowling and don't think about this captaincy or vice captaincy role.
 
Imad captain, Saud deputy, Haris keeper with sarfraz backup

Babar hangs on to his no3 position

Rizwan can be a cheerleader on the boundary. He’ll have plenty of time to back slap the opposition and laughter with them
 
the post is about VC change not for captain it is too late.
Even VC , if you were not sure about Shadab Place or utility in the XI , then why you keep playing him. You need to have clarity before WC , players should get time to mentally prepare.
 
I feel like our next captain will be rizwan lol 😂. Like I'm not even joking, I actually think pcb will make rizwan Captain.
 
Captain Rizwan and Vice Captain must be Shaheen Afridi.

Trust me under this leadership the same team must be achieving remarkable results.
How?

Do they have the following players at their disposal:

Tim David
Rashid Khan
Miller
David Wiese
Sam Billings

They have “Pakistani cricketers”. You will understand that too
 
Doubt it, fast bowlers aren't usually made Captain due to injury, he'll probs be t20 captain though.
This is only a myth, injuries can happen to anyone. We shouldn't exclude fast bowlers from captaincy consideration just because of that.

Imran Khan and Kapil Dev both were fast bowlers but see both were so successful as a captain for their respective teams.
 
This is a only a myth, injuries can happen to anyone. We shouldn't exclude fast bowlers from captaincy consideration just because of that.

Imran Khan and Kapil Dev both were fast bowlers but see both were so successful as a captain for their respective teams.

Shaheen is injury prone, and during the 1990's era tours weren't played as frequently back then.

Injuries can happen to anyone yes, but a pulled hamstring, shoulder injury etc is enough to put a bowler out for life. Bowlers do the most heavy work out of any unit in the team.

A batter can be fat and overweight like inzi and their fine, same with spinners. They do, obviously have to be fit to play but it's extra for a bowler.

Playing a bowler in every match is what caused naseem and Rauf to dissappear during the Asia cup. And in shaheen's case a broken finger.
 
Doubt it, fast bowlers aren't usually made Captain due to injury, he'll probs be t20 captain though.
But we had a long history of fast bowling captains, Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis are a few examples.
 
But we had a long history of fast bowling captains, Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis are a few examples.
Yh tours weren't played much during that era, their frequent now.

Also as I said, shaheen is injury prone.
 
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