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Seems to be enjoying playing at home, good tempremant shown early in his career, i think he will do well abroad as well.
 
amlafan79 said:
+1
his head is on top of ball at point of contact (that means he can move the bat late and adjust ) also he is always has so much time while playing ..pace will never be a problem..not with the solid back foot game he has!

another complete player who needs to be in team asap is rayadu.. i have been asking form these to be in team for such a long time now...hope we get rid of raina for good
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Yes, Rayadu needs to be given opportunity. As a kid (U19) he was star of Indian team. I think he was in news everywhere when he got that 175+ odd runs against England in England. I dont know why it has taken so long but he had great potential to make it to playing 11.
 
bin_pendi_ka_lota said:
Yes, Rayadu needs to be given opportunity. As a kid (U19) he was star of Indian team. I think he was in news everywhere when he got that 175+ odd runs against England in England. I dont know why it has taken so long but he had great potential to make it to playing 11.
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he is no longer a star but i have seen him play enough to know he has complete game..
i dont get what people see in rohit sharma but not in this guy who just oozes class
heck i will play him ahead of rahane!
 
bin_pendi_ka_lota said:
He is allready at the end of his playing years. Something like Saeed Ajmal.... Too good of a peak. But not long enough playing career
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thats true but pujara is young ..cannot really compere them in that regard..
so what do u think ? will rahane debut in next game ?
 
amlafan79 said:
he is no longer a star but i have seen him play enough to know he has complete game..
i dont get what people see in rohit sharma but not in this guy who just oozes class
heck i will play him ahead of rahane!
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In a way Rohit Sharma,Mukund,Pujara,Tewari and Rahane are lucky. They came to the scene when our batting Power House needs new batteries. Am not sure but they are probably younger than Rayadu.
 
bin_pendi_ka_lota said:
In a way Rohit Sharma,Mukund,Pujara,Tewari and Rahane are lucky. They came to the scene when our batting Power House needs new batteries. Am not sure but they are probably younger than Rayadu.
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rayadu can easily play for 10 years even form now on..he is not really old..
also i have seen this trend..some mumbai players are overhyped for no reason
 
amlafan79 said:
thats true but pujara is young ..cannot really compere them in that regard..
so what do u think ? will rahane debut in next game ?
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Honestly, I think Rahane will loose his off stump within first two overs of Pattison. He doent give me confidence. One has to look at the way, consistently Finn cleaned him in the odi series. If selectors and Dhoni think he can now manage to defend those balls he should be brought in. But I still doubt that he would have made that extra improvement within past two months.
 
amlafan79 said:
rayadu can easily play for 10 years even form now on..he is not really old..
also i have seen this trend..some mumbai players are overhyped for no reason
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Well I thought CSK players are hyped :13:
But Yes, Mumbai lobby is definitely the strongest when it comes to BCCI.
 
bin_pendi_ka_lota said:
Honestly, I think Rahane will loose his off stump within first two overs of Pattison. He doent give me confidence. One has to look at the way, consistently Finn cleaned him in the odi series. If selectors and Dhoni think he can now manage to defend those balls he should be brought in. But I still doubt that he would have made that extra improvement within past two months.
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i dont think too much abt that finn dismissal..but there are other things too
he has kind of risky game (not in sehwag way ) but he can do with some time in county to tighten his game up
with finn i honestly felt cos of lack of match practice he was not going forward enough.. i have seen him bat before and that is not big problem for him
im more worried abt playing away from body against good bowlers that can be bad..

also he looked all right in last domestic match he played much better then others but rayadu played better in 2nd innings

another good player is bist he didn ot had great season this time around but he is class act..lets hope he does well :P
 
bin_pendi_ka_lota said:
Well, I wouldnt rely on commies comment. We will never know if any other batsman would have dealt with that. However that doesn't mean that Pujara hasn't got potential.
I hope he doesnt ends up like Jonathan Trott.
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no batsman can play that
 
bin_pendi_ka_lota said:
Well I thought CSK players are hyped :13:
But Yes, Mumbai lobby is definitely the strongest when it comes to BCCI.
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they both are..csk players dont need hype they get into team for no reason
mumbai batsmen some times i feel for example rohit is over hyped only cos he is from mumbai
also mumbai play on flat tracks averages are bit high cos of that..rohit sharma is no where close to est level and still many people cos of hype by commie believe he deserves to be in test side and in odis he only struggled cos of pressure (while he does well in t20 and ipl! haha)
in test matches u go through phases iwth run rate of 1 like in last match too
and rohit will 9 times out of 10 throw wicket away after 4-5 tight overs
 
Saurav said:
no batsman can play that
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Is that a opinion , fact or a argument?
If I was Steyn I will give up everything and try to bowl that same delivery in the nets and in the game. Atleast one in every 10 attempts i may succeed in bow;ling exactly the same.
 
amlafan79 said:
they both are..csk players dont need hype they get into team for no reason
mumbai batsmen some times i feel for example rohit is over hyped only cos he is from mumbai
also mumbai play on flat tracks averages are bit high cos of that..rohit sharma is no where close to est level and still many people cos of hype by commie believe he deserves to be in test side and in odis he only struggled cos of pressure (while he does well in t20 and ipl! haha)
in test matches u go through phases iwth run rate of 1 like in last match too
and rohit will 9 times out of 10 throw wicket away after 4-5 tight overs
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Not only you, but a lot of people are loosing their patience with Rohit. And others are finding it increasingly difficult to justify his selection. I would rather let someone else wear the cap and clearly let Rohit know that he should work harder. If others fail too then after say 1.5-2 years he may be given one more chance.
 
bin_pendi_ka_lota said:
Is that a opinion , fact or a argument?
If I was Steyn I will give up everything and try to bowl that same delivery in the nets and in the game. Atleast one in every 10 attempts i may succeed in bow;ling exactly the same.
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its a fact:moyo

what do you think Steyn tries when he strays down the leg side?and no you can't practise it.it just happens
 
speed said:
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Name any batsman who played in the last 20 years. I will "prove" that they all flopped against various fast bowlers. After all, I need to show only one delivery isn't it?
 
Saurav said:
its a fact:moyo

what do you think Steyn tries when he strays down the leg side?and no you can't practise it.it just happens
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You can practice it, and even perfect it. How else do you think bowlers like McGrath could bowl on the same spot (if they wanted) every ball of an over?
 
Saurav said:
its a fact:moyo

what do you think Steyn tries when he strays down the leg side?and no you can't practise it.it just happens
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Ball missed outside edge of the bat by half a inch.i.e Pujara was too early in his shot... I am sure Pujara will be adjusted to that next time he plays Steyn.

Those 5 dots ball that Steyn bowled prior to that may have made Pujara to take the sixth one as opportunity to score a run in legside. He will probably just let the sixth ball go dot as well instead of thinking it as a opportunity on which he must score run.
 
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@ everyone still discussing about that ball
it was total beauty u honestly cannot play it
ball was drifting towards leg stump then cos of late swing of steyn it started swinging from leg stump and would have hit off stump
u cannot defend these its impossible to play..
another example is dismissal of clarke at perth..it was shorter ball but it swing from middle stump and got edge of bat of clarke

also in this series he was swinging ball like this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s93XgGOIyUQ

like i said u will be lucky that it swings so much that it misses the edge and stumps otherwise u cant leave it (as its on stumps ) u have to play at it
 
IndianWillow said:
You can practice it, and even perfect it. How else do you think bowlers like McGrath could bowl on the same spot (if they wanted) every ball of an over?
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dude,bowling on the same spot is completely different thing to getting the ball swing from leg stump.If one could practice n perfect it,dont think we would have it more often
 
bin_pendi_ka_lota said:
Ball missed outside edge of the bat by half a inch.i.e Pujara was too early in his shot... I am sure Pujara will be adjusted to that next time he plays Steyn.

Those 5 dots ball that Steyn bowled prior to that may have made Pujara to take the sixth one as opportunity to score a run in legside. He will probably just let the sixth ball go dot as well instead of thinking it as a opportunity on which he must score run.
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lol you want him to leave the ball which is hitting middle?

Pujara wasnt too early on the shot.when the ball pitches on leg stump,the batsman instinct to close the face of the bat as 99% of time it carries on,still it was just facing mid the swing was too big though which nobody can handle.
 
amlafan79 said:
create a thread for him too
since u hate talented people so much and love sir jaddu
after all isnt he sir jaddu's bunny? :D
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ofcourse he is:D

I meant by speed's standards Clarke is a hack as he edged this too:))
 
Pujara the new ftb?

Can pujara score outside sc.i dont think he can play the moving ball well
 
avicricket said:
Can pujara score outside sc.i dont think he can play the moving ball well
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He has prooved that SO FAR he is street head than any other young batsman in the world.

If you are an indian you should worry more about the likes of Vijay, Rahane, Kholi, Dhawan etc... To me they all look, at best, average.
 
Mobashir said:
He has prooved that SO FAR he is street head than any other young batsman in the world.

If you are an indian you should worry more about the likes of Vijay, Rahane, Kholi, Dhawan etc... To me they all look, at best, average.
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rahane is below avg,,,rest of them can at least bat well in subcontinent wickts...rahane is a walking wicket evrywhere
 
Did ya people saw track today?
It was mine field and look how this guy played...brilliant innings ,magnificent find for india
 
Sooooo .... let me undersyand this. Any Indian batsman does well in India is a Flat Track Bully ????? Hmmmmm ....
 
Re: Pujara the new ftb?

Haha what a joke. Ball was spinning, jumping, and staying low and rising up suddenly. This guy made it look like a road. I think OP can show the slightest bit of appreciation rather than this blatant disrespect to a special player.
 
A thread about Pujara being a FTB immediately after last test! Did OP watched the test match? LOL , Last pitch was hardly a flat track. Every batsmen was struggling there.
 
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avicricket said:
If the pitch was so tough how could the aussie tail add so many runs in the match
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Because some of them applied them self despite pitch being tough. Pitch had uneven bounce and it was turning. Opposite of being a flat pitch. Flat pitches don't produce 3 day test match.

Did you watch the match or simply saw high score by Pujara and came up with this post?
 
He may struggle on seaming wickets but that remains to be seen. Give him some credit those pitches were turners not roads.
 
Haha. Maybe, but WHAT an ftb though!

With herbjaan and laxman gone, and tendulkar's powers on the wane, I hope and believe that we have found australia's new nemesis. I love this guy
 
He will fail outside the subcontinent just like kohli, dhawan, murli vijay and rahane. They are a product of the ipl and don't have a clue on how to face england, pakistan or south african bowlers outside India. tHey will all fail just like Vinod Kambli did back in the day...Mark my words..

My world cup squad fpr worldcup 2015 for the indian squad will have sehwag, gautam gambhir, suresh raina, tendulkar, dhoni, yuvraj, harbhajan and zaheer khan who have the maturity and the will to win.

They also have the maturity and world cup experience. They just need to be fit and slog it out in the gym until then. The Australianas did it with the waugh brothers, warne and ponting back in the day.
 
Snak3eye5 said:
He will fail outside the subcontinent just like kohli, dhawan, murli vijay and rahane. They are a product of the ipl and don't have a clue on how to face england, pakistan or south african bowlers outside India. tHey will all fail just like Vinod Kambli did back in the day...Mark my words..

My world cup squad fpr worldcup 2015 for the indian squad will have sehwag, gautam gambhir, suresh raina, tendulkar, dhoni, yuvraj, harbhajan and zaheer khan who have the maturity and the will to win.

They also have the maturity and world cup experience. They just need to be fit and slog it out in the gym until then. The Australianas did it with the waugh brothers, warne and ponting back in the day.
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He already did in SA where he averaged in teens.
 
Snak3eye5 said:
He will fail outside the subcontinent just like kohli, dhawan, murli vijay and rahane. They are a product of the ipl and don't have a clue on how to face england, pakistan or south african bowlers outside India. tHey will all fail just like Vinod Kambli did back in the day...Mark my words..

My world cup squad fpr worldcup 2015 for the indian squad will have sehwag, gautam gambhir, suresh raina, tendulkar, dhoni, yuvraj, harbhajan and zaheer khan who have the maturity and the will to win.

They also have the maturity and world cup experience. They just need to be fit and slog it out in the gym until then. The Australianas did it with the waugh brothers, warne and ponting back in the day.
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sure we should get a stretcher for them to come to the ground lol
 
Pujara the new ftb?

Home matches are imp for any player, master your own pitches before trying alien pitches ...
 
what a pathetic thread. pujara has done well for india a outside the subcontinent. and even though he flopped last time in sa, he still looked impressive

pujara, dhawan & kohli will all do well outside the sub continent also. vijay might struggle, but if he has improved, even he will do well. they just need to bat like sehwag and score quickly
 
even if he turns out to be a ftb, its not fair to call him one till he actually fails to perform away from home..
 
vandokkum said:
even if he turns out to be a ftb, its not fair to call him one till he actually fails to perform away from home..
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Actually, how can you call a batsman FTB if he plays so well on turners with uneven bounce? It doesn't matter if was at home or away.

FTB should be reserved for batsmen who can bully on flat track but can't play on difficult pitch. Pujara has played few very good knocks on difficult pitch. Even if he can't play well on seaming tracks, he can hardly be called a FTB. Anyway, there are not too many FTB in world to begin with.
 
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Will be interesting to see him in SA,have always been a fan of this kid and want him to succeed in SA
 
Turning track ≠ Flat track, I hope people get that in their frontal lobe.
 
Well he isn't an FTB.
The pitch was a minefield and where all the other Batsman struggled he scored Runs.
Has to work on his pull though it may lead to his demise on bouncing pitches, i don't think the moving ball should effect him a lot.
 
He's a class player and probably one of the best batsmen India have produced since the fab 4.
 
He isn't a ftb. Rank track bully? Yes. Bouncy track? Let's wait and see.
 
You know someone's either a certified blind or has no knowledge about cricketing terms when he makes such threads. Last pitch was a rank turner and the ball was keeping low, some deliveries lifting off like rockets lol it was one heck of a touch pitch even for Indian batsmen. Pujara totally conquered it, give credit where due. This guy's quite a fighter.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
You know someone's either a certified blind or has no knowledge about cricketing terms when he makes such threads. Last pitch was a rank turner and the ball was keeping low, some deliveries lifting off like rockets lol it was one heck of a touch pitch even for Indian batsmen. Pujara totally conquered it, give credit where due. This guy's quite a fighter.
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You can't overrate him though just by performing on that pitch , these guys grow up playing on these pitches.
 
ahmed778 said:
You can't overrate him though just by performing on that pitch , these guys grow up playing on these pitches.
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Not true
This guy grew up on rajkot track...lmao
And most pitches in India are not turners...intact Delhi pitch has fair amount of bounce in ranji with pacers picking majority of wickets

Its like south Africa batters grow up on bouncy tracks but not many are 48 all out tracks are they ?
Performing there even at home is special performance..
 
ahmed778 said:
You can't overrate him though just by performing on that pitch , these guys grow up playing on these pitches.
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Domestic pitches are of different kinds in India. There are all sorts of pitches here. India use spinner's tracks for international matches as it is their strength. That does not mean all the tracks here favour spin and our lads grow up entirely on these tracks.
 
amlafan79 said:
Not true
This guy grew up on rajkot track...lmao
And most pitches in India are not turners...intact Delhi pitch has fair amount of bounce in ranji with pacers picking majority of wickets

Its like south Africa batters grow up on bouncy tracks but not many are 48 all out tracks are they ?
Performing there even at home is special performance..
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"I didn't score many runs with the bat, but I bowled well in the series. I'm used to playing on such wickets in Rajkot. I was bowling in the right areas and the rest the wicket was doing," Jaddu Boy.

:46:
 
Not sold on this kid yet, I think his technique is suspect; the South African series will tell the real story... Fingers crossed...
 
Pujara is a ftb just like Kohli, Rahane, Dhawan and Vijay. THey fail outside the subcontinent. They are just good for domestic matches within India. They are now where near the maturity and skill level of Dhoni, Sehwag, Yuvraj, Gautam Gambhir and Raina...
 
Kohli seemed the best of the lot we had but didn't helped our cause on away tours, Pujara did well this series but will have to wait and see whether he is a worthy replacement for Dravid.
 
Snak3eye5 said:
Pujara is a ftb just like Kohli, Rahane, Dhawan and Vijay. THey fail outside the subcontinent. They are just good for domestic matches within India. They are now where near the maturity and skill level of Dhoni, Sehwag, Yuvraj, Gautam Gambhir and Raina...
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:)))
 
Even if he is an FTB what he is supposed to do? Not score when the track is flat and not win games for his country? 'Hey I am not going to win games for my country cuz some nutcase on a forum will call me FTB'

I am tired of this FTB thingy. Just because a match is played in subcontinent doesn't automatically mean the pitch is flat.
 
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Anfield said:
Even if he is an FTB what he is supposed to do? Not score when the track is flat and not win games for his country? 'Hey I am not going to win games for my country cuz some nutcase on a forum will call me FTB'

I am tired of this FTB thingy. Just because a match is played in subcontinent doesn't automatically means the pitch is flat.
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Well said. Some.... no most here think 'FTB' is a derogatory remark hence they use it a lot to undermine certain teams/batsmen but for me 'any track bully' is better than pretenders.
 
This FTB thing is not helped by the India-Pakistan-Sri Lanka rivalry, all sets of fans would mindlessly label the opponent bat as one and it'll stick.
 
Varun said:
This FTB thing is not helped by the India-Pakistan-Sri Lanka rivalry, all sets of fans would mindlessly label the opponent bat as one and it'll stick.
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As if the players themselves care about what a random fan on the internet thinks. Any track bully is better than a zombie.
 
Everyone knows Virat has always been the real deal. He may not have 'bullied' in SC but outside of it he will be our #1 playa !
 
I don't think that he will remain there for long time he just played 13 matches from which 11 are in india. Sanga, Kallis, Sachin, Lara, Miandad, Ponting, Dravid etc played 100+ Tests everywhere in the world and still managed to have an average of 50+ Pujara is not of that league...Pujara played almost all matches in india on flat pitches and played 2 matches in South Africa and wasn't able to score 20 runs there...If he is given a long run outside asia he will be exposed and his average will be dropped...
 
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