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Wow good to see Indians finding out where they stand in the world. US support now making them happy. Amazing how China has taught them that lesson.
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Pakistan was being made fun of because your country lacks credibility. You housed OBL, other UN nominated terrorists have connection to Pakistan, you are broke, you have governments which gets thrown off anytime like Musharaff did. Your image in front of the world is well you get the picture of what I am getting at, everything about Pakistan is one and after another disaster.
Had Pakistan been a stable country economically and politically no one would be making fun of you if you were asking for help in a crisis situation.....
Seems like you’ve been taught a lesson by China and are now running around asking for support.
China showed you your ‘aukaat’ eventhough the 2 countries are similar size and once were comparable
Pakistan was being made fun of because your country lacks credibility. You housed OBL, other UN nominated terrorists have connection to Pakistan, you are broke, you have governments which gets thrown off anytime like Musharaff did. Your image in front of the world is well you get the picture of what I am getting at, everything about Pakistan is one and after another disaster.
Had Pakistan been a stable country economically and politically no one would be making fun of you if you were asking for help in a crisis situation.....
So, despite all of these disasters the country is still in tact, imagine what will happen when better times come In sha Allah.
Somalia is still intact I believe but that doesn't mean much. I honestly hope Pakistan can become a stable country economically and politically. A stable Pakistan will only do good for everyone in the neighborhood. People here are just blind, they actually don't get that I am a well wisher of Pakistan...
And how do you think China kicked India’s a’ss recently. Which country gave them intelligence help?
Yeah if you believe what you say and that makes you sleep better at night, so be it.
You guys should focus on taking the lost land back rather than going celebrating America’s empty words.
I heard Americans already moved 2 or 3 aircraft carriers to the Suoth China sea before the India issue took place. You can damn well bet Americans will interfere in some way if a full blown war broke out between China and America. I wouldn't even be surprised if the NSA & CIA are already providing intelligence to the Indians, all China has is You, Nepal and whoelse >??
So, despite all of these disasters the country is still in tact, imagine what will happen when better times come In sha Allah.
Somalia is still intact I believe but that doesn't mean much. I honestly hope Pakistan can become a stable country economically and politically. A stable Pakistan will only do good everyone in the neighborhood. People here are just blind, they actually don't get that I am a well wisher of Pakistan...
And how do you think China kicked India’s a’ss recently. Which country gave them intelligence help?
Yeah if you believe what you say and that makes you sleep better at night, so be it.
You guys should focus on taking the lost land back rather than going celebrating America’s empty words.
I heard Americans already moved 2 or 3 aircraft carriers to the Suoth China sea before the India issue took place. You can damn well bet Americans will interfere in some way if a full blown war broke out between China and India. I wouldn't even be surprised if the NSA & CIA are already providing intelligence to the Indians, all China has is You, Nepal and whoelse >??
But they have. Why deny it?Perfect response. Pretty much sums up my previous post to you. You are a lost cause.
Yeap China has taught India a lesson, whatever makes you happy my friend.
Lets hope a war doesnt take place.
You are a lost cause.
Pakistan was being made fun of because your country lacks credibility. You housed OBL, other UN nominated terrorists have connection to Pakistan, you are broke, you have governments which gets thrown off anytime like Musharaff did. Your image in front of the world is well you get the picture of what I am getting at, everything about Pakistan is one and after another disaster.
Had Pakistan been a stable country economically and politically no one would be making fun of you if you were asking for help in a crisis situation.....
Perfect response. Pretty much sums up my previous post to you. You are a lost cause.
Yeap China has taught India a lesson, whatever makes you happy my friend.
WTH just i read .... nigeria , india or pakistan .... if you ask for help from US its same for everyone ....
the thing is as a self proclaimed suppa pawaa nation, asking for US help is a shameless and cowardly act ....
also China wont budge and wont give a dam no matter if you ask help from Aliens .....
Wow good to see Indians finding out where they stand in the world. US support now making them happy. Amazing how China has taught them that lesson.
Disillusioned Indians needed a lesson or two in humility. The arrogance was getting a bit overboard from Cricket to all other aspects. Just read the comments you quoted above.
20 body bags and 10 released Soldiers as prisoners of war is just 1 small reminder.
'Looking at it in Planet, it looks like China is constructing roads in the valley and possibly damming the river,' Jeffrey Lewis, director of the East Asia Non-proliferation Programme at California's Middlebury Institute of International Studies, was quoted as saying.
Disillusioned Indians needed a lesson or two in humility. The arrogance was getting a bit overboard from Cricket to all other aspects. Just read the comments you quoted above.
20 body bags and 10 released Soldiers as prisoners of war is just 1 small reminder.
What lesson? A clash broke out, indian and chinese both sides had casualties, as accepted by both sides. Satellite pics show that China is on their side of LAC in the Galwan Valley.
Both sides have troops on the border.
India is not a small country that has no resources to fight a war. Neither is India dependent on China for money.
Regarding US support, good that they supported. What should we do? Be sorry about someone's support?
What are pakistanis being gung ho about? Jumping on someone's shoulders?
China has casualties and its reported by some to be higher than India. Let this be a reminder to people like you, that you guys stand no chance.
What are pakistanis being gung ho about? Jumping on someone's shoulders?
China has casualties and its reported by some to be higher than India. Let this be a reminder to people like you, that you guys stand no chance.
It's incredible that after what happened last year and what happened just a few weeks ago you bakhts are still so arrogant.
I am a 100% pro peace kinda dude but a devilish part of me wants India to get a 3rd phainta so they are reminded of their place, yet again.
It's been Pakistan and China so far. Let's see if Nepalese smash your spineless military. Fingers crossed.
What are pakistanis being gung ho about? Jumping on someone's shoulders?
China has casualties and its reported by some to be higher than India. Let this be a reminder to people like you, that you guys stand no chance.
China has casualties and its <b> reported by some </b>to be higher than India.
Only Indians like you are reporting it. Just like you were reporting the F16 shot by Chai drinking Abhinandan.
Indians are also reporting Indian casualties while China denies any casualties. So how come you guys seem to accept that from the same source lol.
This is a new ground, accepting news from media one doesn’t trust for only news that suits them)
Whole world media like BBC, CNN has been reporting it.Indians are also reporting Indian casualties while China denies any casualties. So how come you guys seem to accept that from the same source lol.
This is a new ground, accepting news from media one doesnÂ’t trust for only news that suits them)
No one is trusting fake indian newz. It’s Indian Army who has confirmed the killings of 20 Odd indians, and that is reported by all World media. So what’s your point again?
No one is trusting fake indian newz. It’s Indian Army who has confirmed the killings of 20 Odd indians, and that is reported by all World media. So what’s your point again?
The Indian army knew that in the difficult terrain of Laddakh, it would be difficult to retrieve the dead bodies. An operation, which would then be documented by satellites and chinese. Furthermore Chinese also took 10 Indian soldiers captive, who were later released. So the Indian army had no where to hide.
On the other hand, If the Indian claims about Chinese casualties are true, then where are the Videos and Pics?
Surely Indian media would be broadcasting the visuals of Chinese losses 24x7 by now.
I would have been embarrassed to ask that question about what’s the point but no problem will address it again.
Point 1: The skirmish happened in one of the toughest terrains in the world. There was no verifiable third party source.
Point 2; India has released casualty numbers to the press because we are a democracy with freedom of press unlike China.
Point 3: The world media has quoted Indian numbers because it was Indian army’s info that was provided about their numbers. They cannot validate China’s number from Indian sources. That’s basic media ethics and no worries.
Point 4: China has denied any casualty numbers or even a big skirmish
So conclusion: The information about Indian casualties comes from India which is what most posters on this thread have been strangely celebrating. Weird because most of these soldiers were sons, husbands and father that left behind a grieving family. Anyways the point being India lost soldiers is readily accepted from an Indian source were as Chinese casualties reported by the same source is considered fake. So either it should be China’s word of no lives lost vs India’s word of Indian and Chinese casualty count.
It’s not that complicated to understand for most I guess
The problem with your statement is that India was shown to be helpless when faced with an enemy they couldn't bully - the bravado, surgical strikes, we will show them etc statements not there.
Only Indians like you are reporting it. Just like you were reporting the F16 shot by Chai drinking Abhinandan.
I would have been embarrassed to ask that question about what’s the point but no problem will address it again.
Point 1: The skirmish happened in one of the toughest terrains in the world. There was no verifiable third party source.
Point 2; India has released casualty numbers to the press because we are a democracy with freedom of press unlike China.
Point 3: The world media has quoted Indian numbers because it was Indian army’s info that was provided about their numbers. They cannot validate China’s number from Indian sources. That’s basic media ethics and no worries.
Point 4: China has denied any casualty numbers or even a big skirmish
So conclusion: The information about Indian casualties comes from India which is what most posters on this thread have been strangely celebrating. Weird because most of these soldiers were sons, husbands and father that left behind a grieving family. Anyways the point being India lost soldiers is readily accepted from an Indian source were as Chinese casualties reported by the same source is considered fake. So either it should be China’s word of no lives lost vs India’s word of Indian and Chinese casualty count.
It’s not that complicated to understand for most I guess
Indians are also reporting Indian casualties while China denies any casualties. So how come you guys seem to accept that from the same source lol.
This is a new ground, accepting news from media one doesn’t trust for only news that suits them)
https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www....-in-first-deadly-clash-in-decades?context=amp
American intelligence believes 35 Chinese troops died, including one senior officer, a source familiar with that assessment tells U.S. News. The incident took place during a meeting in the mountainous region between the two sides – both of which had agreed to disarm – to determine how the two militaries would safely withdraw their presences from the region.
Reported by whom? Have the Chinese given you any number? Or are you relying on your fake media?
You always run away from discussions by saying where is the official gov statement bla bla.. at least try to show some consistency. Your loss is confirmed by your army. Whole World knows that.
Allthough it’s sad but your lot got some real beating. So we are all waiting for revenge from your side. Even your PM said the the soldiers blood wont go in vain. Let’s see.
https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www....-in-first-deadly-clash-in-decades?context=amp
American intelligence believes 35 Chinese troops died, including one senior officer, a source familiar with that assessment tells U.S. News. The incident took place during a meeting in the mountainous region between the two sides – both of which had agreed to disarm – to determine how the two militaries would safely withdraw their presences from the region.
https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www....-in-first-deadly-clash-in-decades?context=amp
American intelligence believes 35 Chinese troops died, including one senior officer, a source familiar with that assessment tells U.S. News. The incident took place during a meeting in the mountainous region between the two sides – both of which had agreed to disarm – to determine how the two militaries would safely withdraw their presences from the region.
If chinese are embarassed to accept and reveal the numbers, it shows what a loss of face they had.
They have said they had casualties. Satellite imagery shows no chinese presence on the Indian side of the Galwan valley.
So two things confirmed. Chinese didnot take any territory. Chinese suffered casualties. Only in pakistani view its a bad situation for India.
How on earth would the US know the number of Chinese casualties?
Stop clutching at straws in your numbers game.
Lol, this has been discussed inside out already. This is one single reporting from Shinkman whole of India have been distributing. Have your army, or your PM said 35 chinese were killed?
So no chinese presence in Galwan valley and chinese army taking in casualties us a sign of helplessness?
Has the chinese denied these numbers?
What a stupid question this is. Every tom, dick and Harry can come up with a random number and you think there are children there who will deny all the Numbers coming in. You have completely lost it. Take a rest.
By the same account how would they know Indian casualties without Indian media sources?
What a stupid question this is. Every tom, dick and Harry can come up with a random number and you think there are children there who will deny all the Numbers coming in. You have completely lost it. Take a rest.
India would know it's own casualties, not the Chinese.
Not going to go into a long argument but Indian media and government have proven to be persistent liars.
Sources say 350 Chinese casualties...
Have the Chinese denied these figures?????
So you are ok to accept casualty news about Indian soldiers but not Chinese. So just the news you prefer. Ok lol.
By the way since Indian Army and media are liars how about 0 casualties from India and India is just saying this to gain world sympathy during these difficult times. Would you see that as a possibility too? But then you want get the joy of Indian casualties so it might not suit you.
which source says that figure
which source says that figure
Like I said, India would know the numbers of it's own casualties, not the Chinese.
True may be they are more than 43 but Indian Army is underreporting it. If whosever the rep from the Indian army had those numbers which you trust, would you give him the benefit of doubt of getting some ball park numbers in there?
I am sure there is some method to the madness involved when getting an inventory(hate that term for dead soldiers regardless of where they are from)
So:
- Chinese killed 20 Indian soldiers and took 10 captives (incl 1 Officer). Pics are out there for everyone to see.
- Indians apparently killed 45 Chinese soldiers but NO captives, NO videos, NO pics and NO other evidence.
The whole world is not Arnab Goswami show.
So:
- Chinese killed 20 Indian soldiers and took 10 captives (incl 1 Officer). Pics are out there for everyone to see.
- Indians apparently killed 45 Chinese soldiers but NO captives, NO videos, NO pics and NO other evidence.
The whole world is not Arnab Goswami show.
India doesn’t deny their own soldiers like we have seen with some other countries. I don’t think you would like me to expand on that.
Anyways, the pics you see because these are our soldiers and they died under whatever circumstance while on duty serving their country.they get a full funeral.
Do you expect Indians to parade the dead bodies of the Chinese ?
American soldiers killed the greatest bad guy of the modern era, did anyone keep even a hair as a momento? The only proof from that fallout is a brave heart who gave the info is languishing in a cell in Pakistan.
Not everything is done to quench the inquisitiveness of some online keyboard warrior.
You are free to believe what you want. Again I am asking you, what do you think is the actual number on the Chinese side?
India doesn’t deny their own soldiers like we have seen with some other countries. I don’t think you would like me to expand on that.
Anyways, the pics you see because these are our soldiers and they died under whatever circumstance while on duty serving their country.they get a full funeral.
Do you expect Indians to parade the dead bodies of the Chinese ?
American soldiers killed the greatest bad guy of the modern era, did anyone keep even a hair as a momento? The only proof from that fallout is a brave heart who gave the info is languishing in a cell in Pakistan.
Not everything is done to quench the inquisitiveness of some online keyboard warrior.
You are free to believe what you want. Again I am asking you, what do you think is the actual number on the Chinese side?
Zero.
Because it was any higher than this, we would be seeing the visuals all over indian media. There have been other videos out there of earlier incidents at LOC, where Indian soldiers are shouting Maa Behen ki gaaliyan, apparently capturing 1 chinese army jeep and 1 injured chinese soldier next to it. Therefore if the skirmish this time was considered important enough that a Colonel and a general were sent to engage with Chinese, dismantle the illegal chinese post, then surely they would be capturing the video evidence.
Where is it?
(Ya phir chinese ne phenta laganay k baad cameras bhi torr diay?)
So you are going to go with 0 even after China never denied casualties)
India would know it's own casualties, not the Chinese.
Not going to go into a long argument but Indian media and government have proven to be persistent liars.
What are pakistanis being gung ho about? Jumping on someone's shoulders?
China has casualties and its reported by some to be higher than India. Let this be a reminder to people like you, that you guys stand no chance.
IK has been giving statements on twitter for months. Hardly anyone in India even cares to respond. Thats how immaterial it is.
India will respond if provoked.
Feku and his blind bhakts have made all of us a laughing stock in front of entire World for last 6 years. That's why it pays to be literate. What if we had at least a semi literate person leading us?Thank you feku and his bhakhts. You have left no opportunity to embarrass India time and again in the past few years. India and China are almost the same size but bhakhts want US to help us beat the Dragon. Why will US do that lol?
This shows all this fake bravado only works against countries much smaller than us like Nepal, Bangaldesh and Pakistan but when we come up against China we need other's help.![]()
Spineless modi has sold a part of our state. I have never seen such a coward pm.
There are already some reports that Chinese have captured some part of Arunachal Pradesh.Make sure you protect the remaining part. It is China afterall. Won't be surprised if they capture more land.![]()
There are already some reports that Chinese have captured some part of Arunachal Pradesh.