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Less we say about state of cricket in Pakistan is better, but the more serious matter is the worsening security situation in Pakistan . 3 Days ago there was a bomb blast in KP and today 11 people lost their lives in another terrorist attack on a check post at Bannu . Ideally Mohsin Navi should be fired from both of his jobs , Interior Ministry and the chairman of PCB. But he should leave at least cricket job , if he really wants to improve security situation in the country .

How long the torture will continue .
 
The Lahore underground train will cost $2.5 billion.
- 6 times the investment from Saudis, for which Reno diq is being sold
-60 times the bid of PIA.
- nearly half the amount Pakistan beg the IMF.

These individuals are the ones governing Pakistan, and in the last elections, they found a way to manipulate the results in their favor, which they’ll repeat again in the future.

Nothing will change unless the people of Pakistan rise to claim their rights. However, history suggests that this is unlikely, as it has never happened, neither before partition nor after in the country’s largest province, which holds a monopoly over Pakistan.
 
The Lahore underground train will cost $2.5 billion.
- 6 times the investment from Saudis, for which Reno diq is being sold
-60 times the bid of PIA.
- nearly half the amount Pakistan beg the IMF.

These individuals are the ones governing Pakistan, and in the last elections, they found a way to manipulate the results in their favor, which they’ll repeat again in the future.

Nothing will change unless the people of Pakistan rise to claim their rights. However, history suggests that this is unlikely, as it has never happened, neither before partition nor after in the country’s largest province, which holds a monopoly over Pakistan.

After November 26, 2024 and the entire world's apathy including the US, forget it. Pakistani people are not going to unnecessarily risk their lives again for a useless cause and country. Get out if you can, the establishment and PDM are here to rule forever.
 
I understand your question but it comes across naive. Why Naqvi is keeping both jobs? He isn't appointed by the establishment. It's because he IS the establishment.

They want to stamp Imrans image out of Pakistan, cricket is best way to get in touch with the masses and they cannot risk a sympathiser in charge of PCB.
 
After November 26, 2024 and the entire world's apathy including the US, forget it. Pakistani people are not going to unnecessarily risk their lives again for a useless cause and country. Get out if you can, the establishment and PDM are here to rule forever.
How can @HalBass9 get out? He don't even live in Pakistan best he can do is make some noise on the internet which will have no effect.

Don't think he will leave his comfort in England for the sake of Pakistan all this being patriotic is just for the internet
 
"Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims. The term is used in this regard primarily to refer to intentional violence during peacetime or in the context of war against non-combatant"

The country itself is run by terrorists...
Absolutely, the biggest terrorists in the region are running the country Pakistan and the biggest victims are the people of Pakistan.
 
When do you return to Pakistan and support Dimmy in his fight? Easy to shoot from the hip thousands of miles away.

Crying again when you claim not to support any particular party? Is he a relative of yours? The guy is a crook, criminal, taking two jobs is to take more money for himself. Are you denying this?
 
He has two jobs so he can loot twice the amount, its nothing new for these criminals.
He can have 5 jobs does the Pakistani law restrict him from having 2 jobs?

Him looting do you havd any solid proof or just accusations and bias because hes not from the party you support?
 
Crying again when you claim not to support any particular party? Is he a relative of yours? The guy is a crook, criminal, taking two jobs is to take more money for himself. Are you denying this?
Where's your evidence? If its a fact we will support you with your cause but at the moment without evidence you are coming across as who is just having a dig because he's not from your party
 
These lists are usually dumb prepared by someone with little actual ground knowledge.

How on earth is Sudan having zero terrorism impact score?? Haiti ?Honduras ??
Here is a list of countries with zero score and get an idea how sensible such a list is:

100 Croatia 0 0 100 Haiti 0 0 100 Hungary 0 0 100 Jamaica 0 0 100 Kazakhstan 0 0 100 Kyrgyz Republic 0 0 100 Kuwait 0 0 100 Laos 0 0 100 Liberia 0 0 100 Sri Lanka 0-3.072 100 Lesotho 0 0 100 Morocco 0 0 100 Moldova 0 0 100 Madagascar 0 0 100 North Macedonia 0 0 100 Montenegro 0 0 100 Mongolia 0 0 100 Mauritania 0 0 100 Mauritius 0 0 100 Malawi 0 0 100 Namibia 0 0 100 Nicaragua 0 0 100 Panama 0 0 100 Papua New Guinea 0 0 100 North Korea 0 0 100 Portugal 0 0 100 Qatar 0 0 100 Romania 0 0 100 Rwanda 0-0.114 100 Sudan 0 0 100 Singapore 0 0 100 Sierra Leone 0 0 100 El Salvador 0 0 100 South Sudan 0 0 100 Slovenia 0 0 100 Turkmenistan 0 0 100 Timor-Leste 0 0 100 Trinidad and Tobago 0 0 100 Taiwan 0 0 100 Vietnam 0 0 100 South Africa 0 0 100 Zambia 0 0 100 Zimbabwe
 
Imran Khan has said that Pakistan should not consider military action against the banned Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) or seek help from the United States in this regard as such cooperation would lead to internal discord and may start a never-ending war against terrorism. He made these remarks while addressing a seminar organised by the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government on the resurgence of terrorism in Pakistan.

why this sympathy for terrorist organisation from imran khan? Nor did he come up with any solution a d just left it hanging Probably some of his relatives from Afghanistan and kpk are part of this group.

And his followers are talking about eliminating terrorism in Pakistan
 
What wrong with expressing your opinion against these criminals , unlike guys like you who are either too scared or getting some benefit from the culture of corruption in Pakistan and don't want to raise your voice against them .
It’s wrong if your opinion is against the fascist regime. But if you’re abroad and have nice things to say about the crooks in power then more power to you.
 
Imran Khan has said that Pakistan should not consider military action against the banned Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) or seek help from the United States in this regard as such cooperation would lead to internal discord and may start a never-ending war against terrorism. He made these remarks while addressing a seminar organised by the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government on the resurgence of terrorism in Pakistan.

why this sympathy for terrorist organisation from imran khan? Nor did he come up with any solution a d just left it hanging Probably some of his relatives from Afghanistan and kpk are part of this group.

And his followers are talking about eliminating terrorism in Pakistan
He is called "Taliban Khan" for a reason. Just a standard run of the mill politician, protecting anything and everything with no principle as long as his vote bank is filled. Every country, every state and city have such politicians.
 
Majority of pti supporters in Pakistan support this stance because its came out of imran khans mouth
I know bhai. I see no difference between IK's cult, Trump's MAGA and Modi bhakts and others.
Just switch the names and most of the conversations and arguments by these groups would be exactly the same. Just same coins different currencies. Blind adherence to their strong man leaders.
and ironic thing, they cant stand each other :ROFLMAO:
 
What wrong with expressing your opinion against these criminals , unlike guys like you who are either too scared or getting some benefit from the culture of corruption in Pakistan and don't want to raise your voice against them .
Who is a criminal and who is not will be decided by law. I don't understand why each and every one of the PTI cult repeatedly makes personal remarks about someone benefitting from corruption, should we start saying the same about PTI cult benefitting from Imran and BB?

There's nothing wrong with expressing an opinion and equally there is nothing wrong in expressing an opinion against that opinion....Big talk sounds great from the comfort of Western nations but how many are willing to return?
 
Who is a criminal and who is not will be decided by law. I don't understand why each and every one of the PTI cult repeatedly makes personal remarks about someone benefitting from corruption, should we start saying the same about PTI cult benefitting from Imran and BB?

There's nothing wrong with expressing an opinion and equally there is nothing wrong in expressing an opinion against that opinion....Big talk sounds great from the comfort of Western nations but how many are willing to return?
No mate no.
These are not personal remarks, this is actual hatred of murderers and thus hatred of those that support murderers and terrorists and hence are complicit.

You won't ever sleep well at night so stop trying to justify it.
 
How can @HalBass9 get out? He don't even live in Pakistan best he can do is make some noise on the internet which will have no effect.

Don't think he will leave his comfort in England for the sake of Pakistan all this being patriotic is just for the internet
When do you return to Pakistan and support Dimmy in his fight? Easy to shoot from thousands of miles away.


Usual suspects failing to address the topic and attacking posters instead.

If you back Naqvi, just tell us why. If you don't then likewise. If you don't have an opinion on Naqvi then just don't post.
 
Usual suspects failing to address the topic and attacking posters instead.

If you back Naqvi, just tell us why. If you don't then likewise. If you don't have an opinion on Naqvi then just don't post.

I supported Imran Khan in 2013 because he promised to create Riyasat-e-Madina and Naya Pakistan within 100 days. His vision seemed inspiring at the time, offering hope for a new and improved Pakistan. However, after spending more than three years as Prime Minister, it’s clear that those promises never materialized.


1) Where is Naya Pakistan?


Imran Khan had more than enough time in office to bring real change, yet the results were deeply disappointing. Instead of focusing on economic growth, infrastructure development, and public welfare, he prioritized political theatrics and confrontational politics. Rather than building roads, hospitals, and schools, he encouraged his followers to engage in acts of destruction. His party members and supporters were seen petrol-bombing government buildings, burning buses, and vandalizing public property. Instead of progress, he left behind a trail of chaos and division.


Under his leadership, Pakistan’s economy suffered significantly. Inflation skyrocketed, unemployment increased, and businesses faced severe challenges. The cost of living became unbearable for the common citizen, yet his focus remained on rhetoric rather than real governance. The dream of Naya Pakistan turned out to be nothing more than empty slogans, as the country saw no substantial improvements in governance, infrastructure, or public services.


2) Where is Riyasat-e-Madina?


Imran Khan frequently invoked the concept of Riyasat-e-Madina, portraying himself as a leader who would bring Islamic values into governance. However, his actions and the culture he promoted were far from those ideals. Instead of fostering respect, unity, and morality, he and his party encouraged a toxic political environment.


His followers have been notorious for spreading hatred, abusing women, and using obscene language on social media. Women who opposed his views were subjected to relentless online harassment, and instead of condemning such behavior, he allowed it to flourish. The younger generation, which looked up to him, was influenced by this negativity, learning to disrespect elders and engage in crude, offensive discourse. Is this the kind of behavior that represents Riyasat-e-Madina?


Moreover, his political rallies (jalsas) were marked by inappropriate performances, including vulgar dance acts. Instead of setting a moral example, he allowed an environment where such displays were encouraged, contradicting the very principles he claimed to stand for.


Comparison with Maryam Nawaz & Real Leadership


In contrast, Maryam Nawaz, despite having a much shorter time in power, delivered more for Punjab in under a year than Imran Khan did in his entire tenure. Infrastructure projects were completed, public welfare programs were launched, and governance was more structured.


The real issue here is not about blind loyalty to a political party—it’s not like supporting Liverpool or Manchester United, where fans stay faithful no matter what. Politics is about progress, development, and improving people’s lives. Imran Khan failed to deliver on all fronts. His tenure was defined by chaos, destruction, and empty promises rather than tangible progress. People deserve leadership that brings real change, not just catchy slogans and divisive politics.
 
The thread was about Naqvi, not Imran Khan.

Perhaps you should follow the thread instead of quoting me. My response was directed at Savak, who was replying to the person who initiated this conversation. Maybe you should ask him to keep the discussion focused solely on Naqvi in this thread rather than involving others.

I'm waiting let's see you do it 👍🏼
 
Perhaps you should follow the thread instead of quoting me. My response was directed at Savak, who was replying to the person who initiated this conversation. Maybe you should ask him to keep the discussion focused solely on Naqvi in this thread rather than involving others.

I'm waiting let's see you do it 👍🏼

His reply was related to the Naqvi who is part of the administration. Your reply was about posters living in England...again. If you do it once or twice it is not a problem, but every thread you are talking about posters who live in the UK instead of just addressing the topic.
 
His reply was related to the Naqvi who is part of the administration. Your reply was about posters living in England...again. If you do it once or twice it is not a problem, but every thread you are talking about posters who live in the UK instead of just addressing the topic.
Maybe I'm missing something, but what does Lahore’s underground train have to do with Naqvi having two jobs, the PIA bid, how Shehbaz Sharif came into power, or the IMF loans?

Please explain
 
Maybe I'm missing something, but what does Lahore’s underground train have to do with Naqvi having two jobs, the PIA bid, how Shehbaz Sharif came into power, or the IMF loans?

Please explain

I don't see any of those mentioned in post #3.
 
You asked me to look at @Savak post, now you are saying it was really about @HalBass9 post. Very confusing.

Maybe it would be easier if you just addressed Naqvi then we could relate to everything else.
Show me where did I say look at savak post?

i said i quoted savak post who was replying to halbass9 and then you quoted that post of mine
You see how it's all connected

So instead of coming here and telling me what to do maybe you should talk to the person who actually went off topic and talking about issues not related to naqvi having 2 jobs in this thread
 
Show me where did I say look at savak post?

i said i quoted savak post who was replying to halbass9 and then you quoted that post of mine
You see how it's all connected

So instead of coming here and telling me what to do maybe you should talk to the person who actually went off topic and talking about issues not related to naqvi having 2 jobs in this thread

Do you have any opinions about Naqvi or do you want to talk about PTI and their support base abroad in this thread as well?
 
Who is a criminal and who is not will be decided by law. I don't understand why each and every one of the PTI cult repeatedly makes personal remarks about someone benefitting from corruption, should we start saying the same about PTI cult benefitting from Imran and BB?

There's nothing wrong with expressing an opinion and equally there is nothing wrong in expressing an opinion against that opinion....Big talk sounds great from the comfort of Western nations but how many are willing to return?
" Decided by the law" ??? in a lawless country , where the law is interrupted by the most criminal of them of all, army and its handpicked corrupt politicians .

Why would any sensible person in the west return to Pakistan in its current condition , its not a country anymore, its a land occupied by an armed gang . I feel bad for my extended family and relatives still living in that oppressed country. Born and raised in Pakistan my connection to that land is natural and obviously it hurts to watch what's going on there and how a country with so much promise turned out be a failure . Hundreds of thousands innocent people sacrificed their lives for the creation of Pakistan , including my ancestors , for this ???????????? We could not be in worst condition in undivided India. Creation of Pakistan was a right decision under the circumstances , but thanks to the establishment , it turned out to be a failure.
 
" Decided by the law" ??? in a lawless country , where the law is interrupted by the most criminal of them of all, army and its handpicked corrupt politicians .

Why would any sensible person in the west return to Pakistan in its current condition , its not a country anymore, its a land occupied by an armed gang . I feel bad for my extended family and relatives still living in that oppressed country. Born and raised in Pakistan my connection to that land is natural and obviously it hurts to watch what's going on there and how a country with so much promise turned out be a failure . Hundreds of thousands innocent people sacrificed their lives for the creation of Pakistan , including my ancestors , for this ???????????? We could not be in worst condition in undivided India. Creation of Pakistan was a right decision under the circumstances , but thanks to the establishment , it turned out to be a failure.

It's quite ironic that PTI supporters are now discussing the importance of the law.

Was the law upheld on May 9th?

That day saw widespread violent riots, acts of vandalism, looting, and arson, all carried out by PTI members and supporters. Public and military properties were attacked, government buildings were set on fire, and chaos was deliberately created across the country.

These were not just protests; they were clear acts of terrorism aimed at destabilizing the state.

If PTI truly believes in the rule of law, they should first acknowledge and take responsibility for the destruction and lawlessness their members engaged in on that day.

What happened to the country you were born and raised in?

Imran Khan happened. His reckless leadership and manipulative politics fueled aggression and division across the nation. He exploited emotions, spreading hatred and misinformation, turning people against each other. Instead of fostering unity, he created chaos, polarizing society to the point where Pakistan feels like it's been split into two. The sense of national solidarity has been replaced with hostility and confrontation, all because of his selfish and destructive approach to politics.

PTI supporters would be better off leaving the country or staying abroad because it’s clear that the establishment has no interest in entertaining a two-nation theory within Pakistan. The state is unlikely to tolerate any attempts to create division or challenge its authority. Given the current political landscape, the fate of PTI supporters could mirror that of Khalistan supporters in India marginalized, suppressed, and facing relentless crackdowns. The establishment is making it clear that there is no room for movements that threaten national unity, and those who continue to push against the state may find themselves facing severe consequences.
 
It's quite ironic that PTI supporters are now discussing the importance of the law.

Was the law upheld on May 9th?

That day saw widespread violent riots, acts of vandalism, looting, and arson, all carried out by PTI members and supporters. Public and military properties were attacked, government buildings were set on fire, and chaos was deliberately created across the country.

These were not just protests; they were clear acts of terrorism aimed at destabilizing the state.

If PTI truly believes in the rule of law, they should first acknowledge and take responsibility for the destruction and lawlessness their members engaged in on that day.

What happened to the country you were born and raised in?

Imran Khan happened. His reckless leadership and manipulative politics fueled aggression and division across the nation. He exploited emotions, spreading hatred and misinformation, turning people against each other. Instead of fostering unity, he created chaos, polarizing society to the point where Pakistan feels like it's been split into two. The sense of national solidarity has been replaced with hostility and confrontation, all because of his selfish and destructive approach to politics.

PTI supporters would be better off leaving the country or staying abroad because it’s clear that the establishment has no interest in entertaining a two-nation theory within Pakistan. The state is unlikely to tolerate any attempts to create division or challenge its authority. Given the current political landscape, the fate of PTI supporters could mirror that of Khalistan supporters in India marginalized, suppressed, and facing relentless crackdowns. The establishment is making it clear that there is no room for movements that threaten national unity, and those who continue to push against the state may find themselves facing severe consequences.
You copied this from ISPR's website , didn't you ?
 
Maybe I'm missing something, but what does Lahore’s underground train have to do with Naqvi having two jobs, the PIA bid, how Shehbaz Sharif came into power, or the IMF loans?

Please explain
Just look at the heading of this thread , its about Naqvi keeping two very important position , particularly as Interior minister and security situation is one of the worst in the world ( going by the ranking of Global terrorism ranking ) and we are at the bottom in all cricket format, why can't we ask for his sacking. I know being a close relative of the army chief his " pawa" is strong but one should at least express an opinion.

I don't have any appetite to talk about PTI and AKI on this thread , with people like you here ,so stay at the topic otherwise just ------.
 
You copied this from ISPR's website , didn't you ?
These are all facts that you're trying to avoid.

Come on, just be upfront it’s not a big deal. Admit it, you support Imran Khan simply because he’s hailed as a hero for winning the 1992 World Cup. There’s no denying in his cricketing achievement,

but your admiration for him as a leader is more about fantasy of seeing your favorite as the pm of Pakistan and nothing to do with the welfare of Pakistan
 
Just look at the heading of this thread , its about Naqvi keeping two very important position , particularly as Interior minister and security situation is one of the worst in the world ( going by the ranking of Global terrorism ranking ) and we are at the bottom in all cricket format, why can't we ask for his sacking. I know being a close relative of the army chief his " pawa" is strong but one should at least express an opinion.

I don't have any appetite to talk about PTI and AKI on this thread , with people like you here ,so stay at the topic otherwise just ------.
When questions are hard and no answers it's a easy way out "oh the title of the thread" it's a normal trait with you pti followers many have made runners with this excuse
 
When questions are hard and no answers it's a easy way out "oh the title of the thread" it's a normal trait with you pti followers many have made runners with this excuse
You are "deep state puppet" don't you know that.
IK :pmik is the only one, who can make P.A.kistan G.reat A.nd L.iberated (PAGAL) :bow:
 
You are "deep state puppet" don't you know that.
IK :pmik is the only one, who can make P.A.kistan G.reat A.nd L.iberated (PAGAL) :bow:
I supported Imran Khan in 2013 because he promised to create Riyasat-e-Madina and Naya Pakistan within 100 days. His vision seemed inspiring at the time, offering hope for a new and improved Pakistan. However, after spending more than three years as Prime Minister, it’s clear that those promises never materialized.


1) Where is Naya Pakistan?

Imran Khan had more than enough time in office to bring real change, yet the results were deeply disappointing. Instead of focusing on economic growth, infrastructure development, and public welfare, he prioritized political theatrics and confrontational politics. Rather than building roads, hospitals, and schools, he encouraged his followers to engage in acts of destruction. His party members and supporters were seen petrol-bombing government buildings, burning buses, and vandalizing public property. Instead of progress, he left behind a trail of chaos and division.


Under his leadership, Pakistan’s economy suffered significantly. Inflation skyrocketed, unemployment increased, and businesses faced severe challenges. The cost of living became unbearable for the common citizen, yet his focus remained on rhetoric rather than real governance. The dream of Naya Pakistan turned out to be nothing more than empty slogans, as the country saw no substantial improvements in governance, infrastructure, or public services.


2) Where is Riyasat-e-Madina?

Imran Khan frequently invoked the concept of Riyasat-e-Madina, portraying himself as a leader who would bring Islamic values into governance. However, his actions and the culture he promoted were far from those ideals. Instead of fostering respect, unity, and morality, he and his party encouraged a toxic political environment.


His followers have been notorious for spreading hatred, abusing women, and using obscene language on social media. Women who opposed his views were subjected to relentless online harassment, and instead of condemning such behavior, he allowed it to flourish. The younger generation, which looked up to him, was influenced by this negativity, learning to disrespect elders and engage in crude, offensive discourse. Is this the kind of behavior that represents Riyasat-e-Madina?


Moreover, his political rallies (jalsas) were marked by inappropriate performances, including vulgar dance acts. Instead of setting a moral example, he allowed an environment where such displays were encouraged, contradicting the very principles he claimed to stand for.


Comparison with Maryam Nawaz & Real Leadership

In contrast, Maryam Nawaz, despite having a much shorter time in power, delivered more for Punjab in under a year than Imran Khan did in his entire tenure. Infrastructure projects were completed, public welfare programs were launched, and governance was more structured.


The real issue here is not about blind loyalty to a political party—it’s not like supporting Liverpool or Manchester United, where fans stay faithful no matter what. Politics is about progress, development, and improving people’s lives. Imran Khan failed to deliver on all fronts. His tenure was defined by chaos, destruction, and empty promises rather than tangible progress. People deserve leadership that brings real change, not just catchy slogans and divisive politics.
 
You are "deep state puppet" don't you know that.
IK :pmik is the only one, who can make P.A.kistan G.reat A.nd L.iberated (PAGAL) :bow:
No you have a soft spot for imran khan because he has won the world cup in 1992 without his 1992 achievement you wouldn't even know who imran khan is he would have just been another useless pakistani politician
 
This is exactly what I mean. If there were elections in India and Virat Kohli was a candidate, it would be natural for me to support him simply because he’s the only one I’m familiar with. It’s just human nature.
I remember Imran contested on some 20 seats in his first elections and lost all :ROFLMAO: and that was 1997. The victory aura was still fresh then, but so was his playboy and a philanderer image. These young kids who have been fed manufactured legacy on social media, have no idea about what kind of a man this leader was.

Pakistani public of 90s didnt elect him even for a single seat says a lot what people thought about him. Run of the mill Indian cricket stars have easily become MPs in the first go Azhar, Gambhir, Sidhu etc.
 
Imran Khan has said that Pakistan should not consider military action against the banned Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) or seek help from the United States in this regard as such cooperation would lead to internal discord and may start a never-ending war against terrorism. He made these remarks while addressing a seminar organised by the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government on the resurgence of terrorism in Pakistan.

why this sympathy for terrorist organisation from imran khan? Nor did he come up with any solution a d just left it hanging Probably some of his relatives from Afghanistan and kpk are part of this group.

And his followers are talking about eliminating terrorism in Pakistan
Taliban Khan bruv
 
When questions are hard and no answers it's a easy way out "oh the title of the thread" it's a normal trait with you pti followers many have made runners with this excuse
I have nothing new to add and you also continuing the same rant. Reality is that the most popular leader in the country who won the elections in jail and the most corrupt ones and who lost the elections are in power . And , its obvious May 9 was a drama staged by the army , which converted a peaceful protest against army to a violent one for their own benefit , no wonder they don't want may 9 to be investigated by a judicial commission.

Again, this thread is about Naqvi and his disaster performance . There are many threads about PTI and IK , you can express our frustration over there, I had no intention to open a new one .
 
I have nothing new to add and you also continuing the same rant. Reality is that the most popular leader in the country who won the elections in jail and the most corrupt ones and who lost the elections are in power . And , its obvious May 9 was a drama staged by the army , which converted a peaceful protest against army to a violent one for their own benefit , no wonder they don't want may 9 to be investigated by a judicial commission.

Again, this thread is about Naqvi and his disaster performance . There are many threads about PTI and IK , you can express our frustration over there, I had no intention to open a new one .
Just because you have popularity doesn't make you a good pm this is what I pointed out earlier your following popularity

If you think 9 may was drama then your living under a rock I saw many videos on tiktok of pti supporters, supporting it and some were even involved and making videos of them and posting it.

If you are not aware that 93 seats don't win you elections and you can't do simple maths to add the total seats of mqm plmn and ppp combined then it's better you don't involve your self in if pakistani law allows naqvi to have 2 positions or not.
 
One of the members here on PP was egging on the PTI supporters to riot and burn government buildings down.
He was saying this is the time if PTI supporters really care.
This was no other than our resident PTI hater, PPP fanboy, Major.

Someone should dig up that thread so we can see who else were in favour of rioting....
 
I have nothing new to add and you also continuing the same rant. Reality is that the most popular leader in the country who won the elections in jail and the most corrupt ones and who lost the elections are in power . And , its obvious May 9 was a drama staged by the army , which converted a peaceful protest against army to a violent one for their own benefit , no wonder they don't want may 9 to be investigated by a judicial commission.

Again, this thread is about Naqvi and his disaster performance . There are many threads about PTI and IK , you can express our frustration over there, I had no intention to open a new one .
  1. Imran Khan is the most popular leader of Pakistan : agreed
  2. Imran Khan won the 2023 elections from jail : Debatable, not enough proof, Elections are rigged thats a Pakistani constant
  3. May 9 was a govt conspiracy : possible but wild conjecture
  4. May 9 was Imran Khan overplaying his card and hoping for a coup against the army : wild conjecture but also possible
  5. Did Imran Khan win the 2018 election? No, elections in Pakistan are always rigged, he was selected not elected.
  6. Is IK appeasing the Taliban for his vote bank: Absolutely
  7. Did IK do anything for cricket during his term as PM? : Pakistan continued its slied IK actually had the most power to stem the decline but he failed

Coming back to Naqvi and Pakistan cricket:
  1. Is Naqvi a buffoon? Yes an entertaining one tbh
  2. Has he mismanaged PCB and CT preparations? Yes, but thats another Pakistani constant for decades
  3. Did Naqvi show grit with regards to hosting of CT? Absolutely yes, Any past administrators of PCB would have ended up losing hosting rights, taking ICC and BCCI to court and end up paying their legal fees
  4. Has he made random illogical changes in everything but eventually nothing changed? Yes, a PCB feature
  5. Have PCB financials improved ? A RESOUNDING YES, PCB was operating in losses before Naqvi took over .. its profitable and will be huge profit from CT hosting rights too
  6. Is he responsible for crap performance by players, the coaches etc? I dont think so, he has some role but not accountable for that.
Root cause of Pakistani cricket decline is neither IK or Naqvi both are just 2 factors in the giant equation
 
Mohsin Naqvi is the chairman of PCB not because he’s competent but because of his connections. He was put in this role by the military junta leader himself. This fact alone destroys all his credentials

He has been doing what any incompetent corrupt person would do in his position that is enjoy the perks and run the organization like it’s some Friday basketball league for the geriatric.

It’s funny the Indian above poking his nose into Pakistan’s affairs like and treating us like we don’t know anything doesn’t even know the hosting rights of Champions trophy were decided way before Naqvi’s appointment. On what grounds would PCB lose hosting these rights? This is a moot point to gloss over Naqvi’s non-achievement.

Another thing people give him credit for is ensuring the security of the chanpion trophy tournament. This is an achievement? It wasn’t likely there was any incident going to take place to compromise the security but if something were to happen, he would have been sitting ducks just like he is with his other role as internal minister.

Also, how has PCBs financials improved? Can someone give me the breakdown? Pakistan was going to get paid for hosting championships trophy anyway with or without Mohsin Naqvi so can someone please explain how he’s directly responsible for PCBs finances improving?

Also can someone shed light on what is PCB’s plan for improving the structure of domestic cricket in Pakistan, grooming young talent so they can systematically transition to playing for Pakistan team, expanding PSL which PCB heavily relies on for making money and improving the state of the venues where international cricket is to be played.

The fact of the matter is, Mohsin Naqvi’s tenure has been a culmination of mismanagement, gross negligence and incompetence and under him, the Pakistan team has regressed severely and people have lost hope of ever seeing it improve and become competitive. Mohsin Naqvi, just like his other role, has proven to be an unqualified and ineffective leader, relying more on political backing than his actual qualifications.
 
Mohsin Naqvi is the chairman of PCB not because he’s competent but because of his connections. He was put in this role by the military junta leader himself. This fact alone destroys all his credentials

He has been doing what any incompetent corrupt person would do in his position that is enjoy the perks and run the organization like it’s some Friday basketball league for the geriatric.

It’s funny the Indian above poking his nose into Pakistan’s affairs like and treating us like we don’t know anything doesn’t even know the hosting rights of Champions trophy were decided way before Naqvi’s appointment. On what grounds would PCB lose hosting these rights? This is a moot point to gloss over Naqvi’s non-achievement.

Another thing people give him credit for is ensuring the security of the chanpion trophy tournament. This is an achievement? It wasn’t likely there was any incident going to take place to compromise the security but if something were to happen, he would have been sitting ducks just like he is with his other role as internal minister.

Also, how has PCBs financials improved? Can someone give me the breakdown? Pakistan was going to get paid for hosting championships trophy anyway with or without Mohsin Naqvi so can someone please explain how he’s directly responsible for PCBs finances improving?

Also can someone shed light on what is PCB’s plan for improving the structure of domestic cricket in Pakistan, grooming young talent so they can systematically transition to playing for Pakistan team, expanding PSL which PCB heavily relies on for making money and improving the state of the venues where international cricket is to be played.

The fact of the matter is, Mohsin Naqvi’s tenure has been a culmination of mismanagement, gross negligence and incompetence and under him, the Pakistan team has regressed severely and people have lost hope of ever seeing it improve and become competitive. Mohsin Naqvi, just like his other role, has proven to be an unqualified and ineffective leader, relying more on political backing than his actual qualifications.

Finally someone posts on Naqvi rather than deflecting to a previous govt from two years ago. The other two trolls who keep spamming about PTI or Imran Khan clearly don't have anything positive to say about their stooge appointment, hence they keep deflecting desperately to previous adminstrations.
 
Naqvi is a competent administrator and his PCB role has nothing to do with anything. Trolling him when Pak cricket is at a low is very classless.
 
Naqvi is a competent administrator and his PCB role has nothing to do with anything. Trolling him when Pak cricket is at a low is very classless.
No one is trolling. People who criticized him have raised valid points. I challenge you to counter argue the positives he brings to the table without referencing Imran Khan and PTI like your other troll buddies
 

Another massacre, though direct responsibility is of Chairman CDA, but Naqvi is lumber#1, those who understands Islamabad hierarchy
 
I supported Imran Khan in 2013 because he promised to create Riyasat-e-Madina and Naya Pakistan within 100 days. His vision seemed inspiring at the time, offering hope for a new and improved Pakistan. However, after spending more than three years as Prime Minister, it’s clear that those promises never materialized.


1) Where is Naya Pakistan?


Imran Khan had more than enough time in office to bring real change, yet the results were deeply disappointing. Instead of focusing on economic growth, infrastructure development, and public welfare, he prioritized political theatrics and confrontational politics. Rather than building roads, hospitals, and schools, he encouraged his followers to engage in acts of destruction. His party members and supporters were seen petrol-bombing government buildings, burning buses, and vandalizing public property. Instead of progress, he left behind a trail of chaos and division.


Under his leadership, Pakistan’s economy suffered significantly. Inflation skyrocketed, unemployment increased, and businesses faced severe challenges. The cost of living became unbearable for the common citizen, yet his focus remained on rhetoric rather than real governance. The dream of Naya Pakistan turned out to be nothing more than empty slogans, as the country saw no substantial improvements in governance, infrastructure, or public services.


2) Where is Riyasat-e-Madina?


Imran Khan frequently invoked the concept of Riyasat-e-Madina, portraying himself as a leader who would bring Islamic values into governance. However, his actions and the culture he promoted were far from those ideals. Instead of fostering respect, unity, and morality, he and his party encouraged a toxic political environment.


His followers have been notorious for spreading hatred, abusing women, and using obscene language on social media. Women who opposed his views were subjected to relentless online harassment, and instead of condemning such behavior, he allowed it to flourish. The younger generation, which looked up to him, was influenced by this negativity, learning to disrespect elders and engage in crude, offensive discourse. Is this the kind of behavior that represents Riyasat-e-Madina?


Moreover, his political rallies (jalsas) were marked by inappropriate performances, including vulgar dance acts. Instead of setting a moral example, he allowed an environment where such displays were encouraged, contradicting the very principles he claimed to stand for.


Comparison with Maryam Nawaz & Real Leadership


In contrast, Maryam Nawaz, despite having a much shorter time in power, delivered more for Punjab in under a year than Imran Khan did in his entire tenure. Infrastructure projects were completed, public welfare programs were launched, and governance was more structured.


The real issue here is not about blind loyalty to a political party—it’s not like supporting Liverpool or Manchester United, where fans stay faithful no matter what. Politics is about progress, development, and improving people’s lives. Imran Khan failed to deliver on all fronts. His tenure was defined by chaos, destruction, and empty promises rather than tangible progress. People deserve leadership that brings real change, not just catchy slogans and divisive politics.
I was curious to find what you were posting but lost it at Comparison with Maryam Nawaz and Real Leadership.
You could have literally based your comparison with any politician who brought reforms to Pakistan (Jinnah), yet you chose Maryam Nawaz. The person who quit Mbbs in first year cause it was causing her enormous mental stress.
There's nothing that has been done for the sake of improvement by any politician in Pakistan. Neither by PTI nor by any other party.
Pak's economy was in steep decline well before 2018 as well. Loadshedding has been going on since 2005. Pakistani Rupee has been losing its value well before as well. It used to be 60Rs - 1 USD in 1999. In 2018, it was 135 PKR - 1 USD, By 2019- 145 PKR - 1 USD, and now its 280 PKR - 1 usd.

I'd urge you to visit Punjab to get a better view of how it is "progressing". Apart from Lahore, there isn't any city in Punjab that is getting roads etc built up. There are 100s of villages still in Punjab without electricity and gas. Even in Lahore, Maryam Nawaz created a circus a few days ago by terminating MS of Mayo Hospital while not batting an eye over the Minister of Health who was (I think) present there too.

Whether it's marshal law, PMLN, PTI, PPP or whoever, Pakistan has been declining for well over 25 years now.
 
I was curious to find what you were posting but lost it at Comparison with Maryam Nawaz and Real Leadership.
You could have literally based your comparison with any politician who brought reforms to Pakistan (Jinnah), yet you chose Maryam Nawaz. The person who quit Mbbs in first year cause it was causing her enormous mental stress.
There's nothing that has been done for the sake of improvement by any politician in Pakistan. Neither by PTI nor by any other party.
Pak's economy was in steep decline well before 2018 as well. Loadshedding has been going on since 2005. Pakistani Rupee has been losing its value well before as well. It used to be 60Rs - 1 USD in 1999. In 2018, it was 135 PKR - 1 USD, By 2019- 145 PKR - 1 USD, and now its 280 PKR - 1 usd.

I'd urge you to visit Punjab to get a better view of how it is "progressing". Apart from Lahore, there isn't any city in Punjab that is getting roads etc built up. There are 100s of villages still in Punjab without electricity and gas. Even in Lahore, Maryam Nawaz created a circus a few days ago by terminating MS of Mayo Hospital while not batting an eye over the Minister of Health who was (I think) present there too.

Whether it's marshal law, PMLN, PTI, PPP or whoever, Pakistan has been declining for well over 25 years now.

Why did you react that way when Maryam Nawaz was mentioned? She has accomplished more in one year than Imran Khan did in three years in Punjab.

What has Imran Khan achieved in KPK the last 11 years? Can you list me 5 things? People from kpk are coming to punjab for work I was also in Pakistan in July in every other shop in bazar there's a pathan from kpk is working there especially in areas like kamoke and mureedke

Oh don't talk to me about Punjab I was there during the 2024 elections. The majority were criticizing Imran Khan's government and supporting PML-N. I have connections in Gujranwala, Kamoke, Muridke, Kala Shah Kaku, Lahore, Sahiwal, Sargodha, Okara, and Pakpattan. I regularly speak to people, and most are satisfied with CM Maryam Nawaz's government.

In fact, a friend from a village near Sargodha told me she is actively improving infrastructure in his area, and he has noticed a difference in the cost of living. If you want, I can get him on a video call so he can show you the ongoing development.

Funny how you completely ignored the value of the rupee during Imran Khan's tenure. Nawaz Sharif left it at 135 PKR in 2018, and by the time Imran Khan's government ended, it had reached 190 PKR. Clearly, his policies were responsible, and the trend has continued since then.
 
No one is trolling. People who criticized him have raised valid points. I challenge you to counter argue the positives he brings to the table without referencing Imran Khan and PTI like your other troll buddies
Why are you deciding what I should do? It is necessary to use Imran and PTI as the reference point because you guys consider him the gold standard. Naqvi is the least of our problems.
 
This thread is about Mohsin Naqvi and the way it has been deflected to off topic items is amazing.

On Mohsin Naqvi, history will literally write his name as "ardali" of the highest order. No jokes here but the only reason he holds any Government position is because of his "connections", legit literally. Had this guy achieved anything of substance in his entire life then the yappers on this thread would have been quick to jump onto those "achievements" to portray this guy as Pakistan's homegrown Rupert Murdoch.

Since this guy's face started appearing on prime time tv during regime change time and then during interim government nothing has gone well for Pakistan. As an interior minister, terrorism is on the rise in the country with Pakistan now being placed 2nd on the list of Global Terrorism Index. US issuing a travel advisory on not to travel freely in Pakistan shows how inept this individual is. Regions like Balochistan and KPK turning into lawless states signifies this clueless person's priorities are elsewhere. He is just a hate-filled individual who all his life has been taking orders and good at being the best "ardali" around.

As far as cricket is concerned this guy doesn't even have an iota of cricketing knowledge to make his position work. So far in his reign as PCB Chairman he has been instrumental in breaking up Gaddafi stadium and carry out a big construction activity from Pakistani standards. So here we are now, Gaddafi stadium has been broken down, roof still not on it, the iconic look at the moment is gone and funny thing is this stadium after being ruined in the name of CT didn't even host the CT final. To top this off, this new stadium hasn't even yet hosted any Pakistan game yet. What a tragedy. To add to misery here as the future FTPs aren't announced yet Pakistan is not having a home series this year, assuming we host SL or Bangladesh in autumn I can bet on the fact that our famous administrator will not place even a brick on this incomplete Gaddafi stadium. What I'm trying to say is that stadium is incomplete and tournament is finished, as per norms the stadium construction should now be completed as there is plenty of time. But no, this idiot is all for cameras. Given there is no tournament or series coming up and no chances of photography I can bet no additional brick will be layered in Gaddafi stadium and it will remain incomplete till next series.

Mohsin Naqvi in a nutshell is the reason why words like "ardali" exists. This is exactly how history will remember him or for best he wont have any footprint in the long history.
 
Why did you react that way when Maryam Nawaz was mentioned? She has accomplished more in one year than Imran Khan did in three years in Punjab.

What has Imran Khan achieved in KPK the last 11 years? Can you list me 5 things? People from kpk are coming to punjab for work I was also in Pakistan in July in every other shop in bazar there's a pathan from kpk is working there especially in areas like kamoke and mureedke

Oh don't talk to me about Punjab I was there during the 2024 elections. The majority were criticizing Imran Khan's government and supporting PML-N. I have connections in Gujranwala, Kamoke, Muridke, Kala Shah Kaku, Lahore, Sahiwal, Sargodha, Okara, and Pakpattan. I regularly speak to people, and most are satisfied with CM Maryam Nawaz's government.

In fact, a friend from a village near Sargodha told me she is actively improving infrastructure in his area, and he has noticed a difference in the cost of living. If you want, I can get him on a video call so he can show you the ongoing development.

Funny how you completely ignored the value of the rupee during Imran Khan's tenure. Nawaz Sharif left it at 135 PKR in 2018, and by the time Imran Khan's government ended, it had reached 190 PKR. Clearly, his policies were responsible, and the trend has continued since then.

Rather than get a friend on a video call to endorse your views, it would be more helpful to post some links from an independent source which could expand on Naqvi's credentials.
 
Rather than get a friend on a video call to endorse your views, it would be more helpful to post some links from an independent source which could expand on Naqvi's credentials.
Naqvi is a more competent administrator than clowns like Fawad C and Sheikh R.
 
Fine, he may well be. I'm sure there must be some articles written by qualified commentators you can reference and put here and we can form an opinion.
I don't care much for the opinion of non-Pakistanis on matters to do with the country. Do your own research.
 
Funny because you are the one running after me for research material.

That's just me asking for an independent assessment of your claims to Naqvi's credentials. You don't have to provide them but then of course all you are giving is a general opinion as in "oh ya, Naqvi is superb, fabulous administrator. Take my word for it". - Anon.
 
Seriously I don't mind if Naqvi insists to stay as PCB chairman to enjoy PCB's funds , let him be but FGS, sack him from the responsibility of interior ministry and give it to someone capable for making an effort to save the lives of innocent civilians , even someone retired from army . We can afford the death of cricket at the hand of this idiot but humans lives are too precious . What happened in Boluchistan is a desperate situation and demands desperate action .
 
Seriously I don't mind if Naqvi insists to stay as PCB chairman to enjoy PCB's funds , let him be but FGS, sack him from the responsibility of interior ministry and give it to someone capable for making an effort to save the lives of innocent civilians , even someone retired from army . We can afford the death of cricket at the hand of this idiot but humans lives are too precious . What happened in Boluchistan is a desperate situation and demands desperate action .
Human life is cheap in Pakistan. Who cares if a few civilians die every week. The country is the personal property of the corrupt elite while the rest are just termites that can be exterminated at anytime without anyone noticing or caring.
 
Human life is cheap in Pakistan. Who cares if a few civilians die every week. The country is the personal property of the corrupt elite while the rest are just termites that can be exterminated at anytime without anyone noticing or caring.
Exactly... Nobody cares what is happening to poor people of this country. The government is busy making fake stats about economy and talk big about ending terrorism but nothing is getting fixed here...
 
Why did you react that way when Maryam Nawaz was mentioned? She has accomplished more in one year than Imran Khan did in three years in Punjab.

What has Imran Khan achieved in KPK the last 11 years? Can you list me 5 things? People from kpk are coming to punjab for work I was also in Pakistan in July in every other shop in bazar there's a pathan from kpk is working there especially in areas like kamoke and mureedke

Oh don't talk to me about Punjab I was there during the 2024 elections. The majority were criticizing Imran Khan's government and supporting PML-N. I have connections in Gujranwala, Kamoke, Muridke, Kala Shah Kaku, Lahore, Sahiwal, Sargodha, Okara, and Pakpattan. I regularly speak to people, and most are satisfied with CM Maryam Nawaz's government.

In fact, a friend from a village near Sargodha told me she is actively improving infrastructure in his area, and he has noticed a difference in the cost of living. If you want, I can get him on a video call so he can show you the ongoing development.

Funny how you completely ignored the value of the rupee during Imran Khan's tenure. Nawaz Sharif left it at 135 PKR in 2018, and by the time Imran Khan's government ended, it had reached 190 PKR. Clearly, his policies were responsible, and the trend has continued since then.
I am not a PTI supporter and PTI's government did poorly as well just like any other politician in our history.
But its funny that for some reason you are portraying Maryam Nawaz as a revolutionary who has achieved something even though the economy is still declining and the unemployment and inflation rates are their highest.
Your friend is apparently working with Maryam Nawaz the way you're saying, so obviously he's gonna talk positively about her. It's based on a few people you have interacted with, ask the majority whether Pakistan is in a better place it was 20 years ago? Nope. Every political party who has reigned in the meantime is accountable for the decline whether its IK, Nawaz, Zardari or the voldemorts of Pakistan.
 
Exactly... Nobody cares what is happening to poor people of this country. The government is busy making fake stats about economy and talk big about ending terrorism but nothing is getting fixed here...
Only who have lived through the different clown regimes know how Pak has been drowning slowly. The murder of merit, unemployment, lack of opportunities to succeed and progress, it's all too depressing for anyone who's in Pakistan.
 
I am not a PTI supporter and PTI's government did poorly as well just like any other politician in our history.
But its funny that for some reason you are portraying Maryam Nawaz as a revolutionary who has achieved something even though the economy is still declining and the unemployment and inflation rates are their highest.
Your friend is apparently working with Maryam Nawaz the way you're saying, so obviously he's gonna talk positively about her. It's based on a few people you have interacted with, ask the majority whether Pakistan is in a better place it was 20 years ago? Nope. Every political party who has reigned in the meantime is accountable for the decline whether its IK, Nawaz, Zardari or the voldemorts of Pakistan.
The roles of the Prime Minister (PM) and Chief Minister (CM) are different. The issues you're raising are not specific to Punjab they are nationwide concerns. Blaming Maryam Nawaz for them doesn’t make sense, Shahbaz Sharif is the one responsible for nationwide matters.


I have a friend who lives in a village and earns a living by singing on TikTok Live, making nearly 20,000 PKR rupees a month. I met him five years ago while working on a music project he has nothing to do with the plmn

As for Punjab, most people seem satisfied with Maryam Nawaz compared to your guy buzdar tell me what do you like about buzdafmr and what he did for Punjab? And there was a survey conducted a few days ago that supports this most punjabis preference maryam nawaz compared to buzdar there for they want a PLMN government.

But can you name me any achievement buzdar did? Just name 3 not too many too ask
 
Any update on the train hijack.

I know Pakistan is not a country but really not even being discussed?
 
A complete failure on both fronts , surely he has to be sacked from dual responsibilities
 
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