Combined Pakistan-Bangladesh all time Test XI

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As we look forward to another test series between these two titans, it’s time to honour the rivalry by cherishing the finest test cricketers produced by these two nations.

Who would be in your combined All Time Test XI for Pakistan-Bangladesh
 
Will probably be all Pakistani players as Bangladeshi has struggled to produce a truly world class cricketers - which is sad because even Afghanistan (which has been playing cricket for relatively very short period of time) and Zimbabwe can field a combined playing XI with Pakistan and other major teams.

Bangladesh cricket has stagnated and hasn’t really never taken off. Perpetual apprentice.
 
All Pakistani XI. Not even Shakib, because Afridi will be better spinning all rounder, and even he cannot get into the all time eleven. Salman Butt is better than Tamim, and even he cannot get into the all time eleven.
 
Some solid Bangladeshi cricketers that might be considered subject to scrutiny :-

Tamim Iqbal
Shakib Hussein
Mushfiqur Rehman
Mohd Rafeeq
Mushrafe Mortaza
Liton Das
Tapash Boysya
Mustafizur Rehman
 
Shakib vs Afridi is a dog fight for the all rounder position.
 
Literally no Bangladeshi player will make thisnlist considering pakistan has Hanif Mohammad, Saeed Anwar, Younis Khan, Miadad, Yousaf, Inzi, Wasim akram etc etc to work with
 
Mohammad Rafique was a handicapping all rounder back in the day.

May not be as good as Marhoom Abdul Qadir as a pure bowler but as an overall package he can-be considered.
 
It doesn't matter what the combined XI is when the hearts of both brotherly countries are combined.
 
Probably only Shakib's name will come into consideration but I don't think he will make it into the best XI still.
 
This could be a good line -up


Tamim Iqbal (*Wikkie)
Saeed Anwar
Marhoom Haneef Mohd (*TOLM)
Inzamam ul Haq
Javed Miandad
Yoni Khan
Shakib Hussein
Imran Khan (*Skippy)
Wasim Akram
Danish Kaneria
Shoaib Akhtar

This team has great balance
 
This could be a good line -up


Tamim Iqbal (*Wikkie)
Saeed Anwar
Marhoom Haneef Mohd (*TOLM)
Inzamam ul Haq
Javed Miandad
Yoni Khan
Shakib Hussein
Imran Khan (*Skippy)
Wasim Akram
Danish Kaneria
Shoaib Akhtar

This team has great balance
Bas kar dei bhai, infinite trolling lol
 
A more interesting question would be a Pak-Ban test XI post 2010. I reckon the team would look like this:
1. Tamim
2. Azhar
3. Saud
4. Younis
5. Shakib
6. Asad
7. Saifi (C)
8. Mehdi
9. Amir
10. Yasir
11. Taskin

The reason I went with Saud despite his inexperience is I would assume with a strong spin line up that our home pitches would be tailor made to that strength therefore we need the best players of spin

I was juggling between Shaheen and Taskin but went with the latter as under the correct tutelage, Taskin can flourish. Shaheen unfortunately has proven to be way to stubborn in that regard
 
#1 Saeed Anwar
#2 Tamim Iqbal
#3 Younis Khan
#4 Inzamam-ul-Haq
#5 Mushfiqur Rahim (wk)
#6 Shakib-al-Hasan
#7 Imran Khan (c)
#8 Wasim Akram
#9 Waqar Younis
#10 Saqlain Mushtaq
#11 Shoaib Akhtar

Team slogan: East or West! Pakistan is the best!
 
In tests?
Shakib is miles ahead.
He is miles ahead because he had the sincerity to want to play Test cricket

Afridi’s non serious attitude towards Test cricket cost him here. He was a solid Test cricketer, it was actually his best format. Great cricketer
 
Not really. He is probably on par with Taufeeq Umar and Pakistan has had better Test openers then Taufeeq. Azhar Ali recently was one of the better ones as an opener.

Tamim makes the side as a wikkie batter
He is miles ahead because he had the sincerity to want to play Test cricket

Afridi’s non serious attitude towards Test cricket cost him here. He was a solid Test cricketer, it was actually his best format. Great cricketer

We all remember the young Afridi who was destined for test greatness. Let’s not forget that great century against Bharat in Bharat. It was a scintillating knock and back then such knocks were rare from openers. Back then openers were all boring uncles like Mykey Athertun.
 
He is miles ahead because he had the sincerity to want to play Test cricket

Afridi’s non serious attitude towards Test cricket cost him here. He was a solid Test cricketer, it was actually his best format. Great cricketer
I know that and do understand your point of view, but in the end results matter.
Shakib has achieved more and will be picked ahead of Afridi in an all time eleven.

Shakib is also a better batsman away from home and Afridi definitely would have struggled in SENA.
 
Saeed Anwar
Shakib
Saqlain Mushtaq
Waqar Younis
Imran Khan
Abdul Qadir
Mahmudullah/Tamim
Younis Khan
Mushfiqur Rahim
Wasim Akram
Javed Miandad
 
Pakistan- Bangladesh Combined Test XI ( since 1972):-

Saeed Anwar
Majid Khan
Younis Khan
Javed Miandad
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Shakib-al-Hasan/Mohammad Yousuf
Imran Khan (c)
Rashid Latif(wkt)
Wasim Akram
Saqlain Mushtaq
Waqar Younis

On spin friendly pitches, Shakib will be lethal via contributions with bat and ball both otherwise on flat tracks, you can drop him and play Yousuf.
 
Some solid Bangladeshi cricketers that might be considered subject to scrutiny :-

Tamim Iqbal
Shakib Hussein
Mushfiqur Rehman
Mohd Rafeeq
Mushrafe Mortaza
Liton Das
Tapash Boysya
Mustafizur Rehman
😂 Pakistan have better bench fast bowlers than these names.
 
He is miles ahead because he had the sincerity to want to play Test cricket

Afridi’s non serious attitude towards Test cricket cost him here. He was a solid Test cricketer, it was actually his best format. Great cricketer
Both of them can't makes eleven.
 
Pakistan- Bangladesh Combined Test XI ( since 1972):-

Saeed Anwar
Majid Khan
Younis Khan
Javed Miandad
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Shakib-al-Hasan/Mohammad Yousuf
Imran Khan (c)
Rashid Latif(wkt)
Wasim Akram
Saqlain Mushtaq
Waqar Younis

On spin friendly pitches, Shakib will be lethal via contributions with bat and ball both otherwise on flat tracks, you can drop him and play Yousuf.
Its more like a Pakistan 11

i will add Tamim and Mushfiqur Raheem in my 11 from BD
 
After this win, little Mushqifur and Shakib have made a strong case for themselves.
 
This could be a good line -up


Tamim Iqbal (*Wikkie)
Saeed Anwar
Marhoom Haneef Mohd (*TOLM)
Inzamam ul Haq
Javed Miandad
Yoni Khan
Shakib Hussein
Imran Khan (*Skippy)
Wasim Akram
Danish Kaneria
Shoaib Akhtar

This team has great balance


My updated team after Bangladesh’s comprehensive 10 wicket victory in the 1st test which has opened my eyes about the value of Bangladeshi cricketers :-

Tamim Iqbal
Saeed Anwar
Marhoom Haneef Mohd (*TOLM)
Inzamam ul Haq
Javed Miandad
Mushqifur Rahman (wikkie)
Shakib Hussein
Imran Khan (C)
Wasim Akram
Danish Kaneria
Shoaib Akhtar
 
He is miles ahead because he had the sincerity to want to play Test cricket

Afridi’s non serious attitude towards Test cricket cost him here. He was a solid Test cricketer, it was actually his best format. Great cricketer
Even in ODIs, Shakib is way ahead of Afridi. Unless ur all time XI plans to play bilateral series with Bangladesh XI or Lanka in Asia, i don't see any expert will have Afridi over Shakib. Shakib scored more runs in 3 successive ODI matches in one WC in Eng than the total number of runs Afridi scored in 5 WCs. Its laughable to suggest Afridi over Shakib.
 
Even in ODIs, Shakib is way ahead of Afridi. Unless ur all time XI plans to play bilateral series with Bangladesh XI or Lanka in Asia, i don't see any expert will have Afridi over Shakib. Shakib scored more runs in 3 successive ODI matches in one WC in Eng than the total number of runs Afridi scored in 5 WCs. Its laughable to suggest Afridi over Shakib.

Afridi was a match winner.
 
My updated team after Bangladesh’s comprehensive 10 wicket victory in the 1st test which has opened my eyes about the value of Bangladeshi cricketers :-

Tamim Iqbal
Saeed Anwar
Marhoom Haneef Mohd (*TOLM)
Inzamam ul Haq
Javed Miandad
Mushqifur Rahman (wikkie)
Shakib Hussein
Imran Khan (C)
Wasim Akram
Danish Kaneria
Shoaib Akhtar
Recency bias. When considering all time XI, one should not decide by one match, or give more weight to the recent performance.
 
Afridi was a match winner.
If we talk about allrounder ability - Afridi is one of my all time fav player but he was always a 'what if' type of player with the bat. Where as Shakib is a consistent performer in both department over a decade hence he held that top allrorunder tag for a long time. If one had to choose between the two, it would always be Shakib.
 
If we talk about allrounder ability - Afridi is one of my all time fav player but he was always a 'what if' type of player with the bat. Where as Shakib is a consistent performer in both department over a decade hence he held that top allrorunder tag for a long time. If one had to choose between the two, it would always be Shakib.

In that case, don’t call yourself a fan of Shahid Afridi. You don’t get to enter our club. Just like we respectfully don’t ever try to join your ordinary cricketers fan club.
 
Bangladesh doesn't really have any real Test legacy. They got the status in 2000. It is only recently they started to win some Tests.

So, a combined Text XI should have all Pakistani players (maybe you can add Shakib if you want to be generous).

My XI:

Hanif Muhammad
Saeed Anwar
Inzamam
Muhammad Yousuf
Shakib
Imran Khan (c)
Wasim Bari (wk)
Wasim Akram
Saqlain Mushtaq
Waqar Younis
Shoaib Akthar.
 
Can't believe this is even a thread. LOL. Troll thread?

Anyway, current XI (not ATG XI) can be something like this:

Babar
Shanto
Mominul
Litton
Saud Shakeel
Rizwan (wk)
Mehidy
Shoriful
Taskin
Shaheen Shah Afridi (c)
Abrar.
 
Can't believe this is even a thread. LOL. Troll thread?

Anyway, current XI (not ATG XI) can be something like this:

Babar
Litton
Mominul
Litton
Saud Shakeel
Rizwan (wk)
Mehidy
Shoriful
Taskin
Shaheen Shah Afridi (c)
Abrar.
Rizwan when you have Mushfiqur?

Babar opening?

Shaheen captain?

Think this is a troll post
 
Rizwan when you have Mushfiqur?

Babar opening?

Shaheen captain?

Think this is a troll post

I added Litton twice by mistake.

Here is my updated current XI:

Babar
Shanto
Mominul
Litton
Saud Shakeel
Rizwan (wk)
Mehidy
Shoriful
Taskin
Shaheen Shah Afridi (c)
Abrar

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If not Shaheen, who should be the captain? I guess Shanto can be the captain.

I didn't add Mushfiqur because this was his first good innings in a while. Rizwan has better Test form.
 
I added Litton twice by mistake.

Here is my updated current XI:

Babar
Shanto
Mominul
Litton
Saud Shakeel
Rizwan (wk)
Mehidy
Shoriful
Taskin
Shaheen Shah Afridi (c)
Abrar

====================

If not Shaheen, who should be the captain?

I didn't add Mushfiqur because this was his first good innings in a while. Rizwan has better Test form.
Abdullah should open considering he has the same amount of away test hundreds as Babar as well as a double hundred

Rizwan may have more "runs" than Mushfiqur, however when Mushfiqur scores his team wins matches unlike the former

Bat Saud at 3 and have Saifi batting at 6 as captain
 
Probably only Shakib will make it as 12th man, still not sure, because Mushtaq (Mo) was a better batsman and this is a Test XI.

On merit -
1. Hanif
2. Saeed
3. YK
4. Javed
5. Inzi
6. Khan*
7. Rizwan+/Latif+ (still probably Latif - Mushi is better bat, but Test WK must be picked based on Gloves’ work)
8. Wasim
9. AQadir
10. Saqline
11. Waquar
12th. Shakib

For a balanced mixed team, I’ll drop Saq, WK & Saeed for Shakib, Mushi & Tamim ….. and 12th man Rafique.
 
However, at present probably more BD players will make the XII

1. Abdullah
2. Tamim (he is coming back next series, if not Liton as specialist bat)
3. Saud
4. Babar
5. Mushi
6. Rizwan+
7. *Shakib
8. Miraz
9. Khurram/Shaheen
10. Naseem
11. Shoriful
—-
12th Liton

That’s like 6/6 split.
 
However, at present probably more BD players will make the XII

1. Abdullah
2. Tamim (he is coming back next series, if not Liton as specialist bat)
3. Saud
4. Babar
5. Mushi
6. Rizwan+
7. *Shakib
8. Miraz
9. Khurram/Shaheen
10. Naseem
11. Shoriful
—-
12th Liton

That’s like 6/6 split.

Good to know that Tamil is coming back. He is a manly cricketer. Not like Abdullah Shafique.
 
In that case, don’t call yourself a fan of Shahid Afridi. You don’t get to enter our club. Just like we respectfully don’t ever try to join your ordinary cricketers fan club.
Being a fan =/= being delusional.
 
Afridi was beyond stats
Afridi is a one hit wonder. Yes his peak is > Shakib but their comparisons don't make sense, Shakib most of his life has been a middle order batter and bowler with comparisons mostly being with people like hafeez, malik, Maxwell and other. (PS: not saying he's Maxwell level lol, just saying that this is his category)

Meanwhile Afridi has moat of his life been a pinch hitter and wristsppiner. His job was taking wickets and makeshifting from no 1 to no 7 and swing for the stands, if he functions he functions but if he fails he fails.

It's not really a fair comparison and doesn't make much sense.

It's why I also tell people rohit vs Kohli isn't a comparison that makes sense either. Rohit's job is to be a hitman and kohli's job is bat through. If you asked either to swap roles, both would be failures as rohit can't bat through or chase like kohli can and kohli can't go bang bang like rohit can.

Same this for shakib vs afridi, Shakib can't go bang bang but afridi can't exactly bat consistently either.
 
It's why I also tell people rohit vs Kohli isn't a comparison that makes sense either. Rohit's job is to be a hitman and kohli's job is bat through. If you asked either to swap roles, both would be failures as rohit can't bat through or chase like kohli can and kohli can't go bang bang like rohit can.

Says who?
 
Says who?
You think Rohit Sharma can consistently do what kohli could in his prime and be given the mantra of India's greatest chaser?

You think if Hitman could do that they wouldn't have given Kohli that title to begin with?

Before you fetch innings, Obviously innings will exist lol when he has 200+ games. You indian fans need to stop taking things at face value and focus on certain words lol
 
What Shahid Afridi was doing in 1996 was unimaginable for that time. It saddens me to see that brothers from Pakistan are picking a loser like Shakib over the legend and an icon that Afridi bhai was. Again goes back to my thought that modern day Pakistani fans don’t deserve it.

Sorry but i am done for the day.
Let me mourn this for a day.
 
What Shahid Afridi was doing in 1996 was unimaginable for that time. It saddens me to see that brothers from Pakistan are picking a loser like Shakib over the legend and an icon that Afridi bhai was. Again goes back to my thought that modern day Pakistani fans don’t deserve it.

Sorry but i am done for the day.
Let me mourn this for a day.
Any person would pick afridi > Shakib ofcourse. No question.

However it doesn't really make much sense either way.

Better question is someone like hafeez vs Shakib.

Afridi is a make shift no 1 to no 8 and primarily a wrist spinner, Shakib is a middle order batter and offspinner.

One goes bang bang the other is suppose to be consistent in the MO.

It's like asking who's superior Gilchrist or Bevan, Gimchrist is obviously superior but both have completely different roles lol
 
Any person would pick afridi > Shakib ofcourse. No question.

However it doesn't really make much sense either way.

Better question is someone like hafeez vs Shakib.

Afridi is a make shift no 1 to no 8 and primarily a wrist spinner, Shakib is a middle order batter and offspinner.

One goes bang bang the other is suppose to be consistent in the MO.

It's like asking who's superior Gilchrist or Bevan, Gimchrist is obviously superior but both have completely different roles lol
Like you said, different comparison. One bite balls vs other showed balls on live tv.
 
Only Rahim (wicketkeeper) and Sakib can be included in Pakistan's all time test XI.

Anwar
Haneef
Younis
Miandad
Inzamam
Imran *
Rahim (wk)
Shakib
Wasim
Qadir
Waqar
 
Only Rahim (wicketkeeper) and Sakib can be included in Pakistan's all time test XI.

Anwar
Haneef
Younis
Miandad
Inzamam
Imran *
Rahim (wk)
Shakib
Wasim
Qadir
Waqar
Ijaz Ahmed should be on here. Dude averaged 50+ overseas againat Australia, India and WI amd was aggressive as heck.

Ik that rahim is a keeper but like I just can't fathom to see what shakib and rahim are doing on here.
 
Ijaz Ahmed should be on here. Dude averaged 50+ overseas againat Australia, India and WI amd was aggressive as heck.

Ik that rahim is a keeper but like I just can't fathom to see what shakib and rahim are doing on here.
From where did you get these stats?

Ijaz's average in these 3 countries was

Aus 41
WI 25.66
India 8

His career average was 37
 
From where did you get these stats?

Ijaz's average in these 3 countries was

Aus 41
WI 25.66
India 8

His career average was 37
Pakistan No. 3 Ijaz Ahmed, ungainly, with a closed-off stance and a bottom-hand-heavy technique, did not win any batting beauty contests in his time. There was no doubting his calibre as a player, though: he made 12 Test hundreds and averaged a little under 40 overall; in his matches, against West Indies, Australia and England, that number went up to 50 or thereabouts.
 
Saeed anwer
Saheed Afridi
Inzamam ul haq
Musarafe Raheem(wk)
Yousuf youhana
Shaib ul hasan
Abdur razaak
Imran khan(c)
Wasim akram
Mehdy Hasan miraz
Waqar younis

3 geneiun fast bowler wasim,waqar and imran.
3 Alrounders Afridi Shakib razaak for 5th bowler option
1 specialist spinner mehedy hasan miraaz
All bases covered here
 
Pakistan No. 3 Ijaz Ahmed, ungainly, with a closed-off stance and a bottom-hand-heavy technique, did not win any batting beauty contests in his time. There was no doubting his calibre as a player, though: he made 12 Test hundreds and averaged a little under 40 overall; in his matches, against West Indies, Australia and England, that number went up to 50 or thereabouts.
Saleem Malik had better records and was a better test batsman than Ijaz Ahmed. The axeman was better at ODIs.
 
I will definitely put in Saqlain Mushtaq in the 11.

Wasim
Waqar
Asif
for the pace attack.

Shakib as an allrounder.

Saeed and Tamin to open
Mushfiqur as keeper (Rizwan can be replaced here as well)
 
Saleem Malik had better records and was a better test batsman than Ijaz Ahmed. The axeman was better at ODIs.
I forward saleem Malik as well.

I pointed out Ijaz Ahmed cause he's an average player and even he is LEAGUES GREATER then Babar azam as a batsmen.

Say what you want about Ijaz Ahmed but Australia and windies in test was his favourite teams and he switched on against them.

He was medicore againat other teams but when Pakistan needed him the most to function against the like of mcgrath and Warne he went beast mode.

The likes of Miandad are 100x superior to Ijaz and ijaz is 100× Superior to Babar, and yet people are claiming Babar is > Miandad HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Out of babar's 19 centuries in odi, only 5 of them have cone against full strength teams and 3 resulted in losses, and sa was a lucky win no thanks to bobby.

Even the 2021 r20 wc that people gloat about, besides india game, He flopped against NZ, Made 51 of 47 against afghanistan and nearly lost the game if it wasn't for asif Ali chasing 24 In 12.

He played a horrible 39 of 34 against australia.

What miandad did in 1986 alone is superior to anything Babar can or will ever do, Heck ijaz Ahmed 87 ball 139 is a masterclass obliteration of our rival nation whereas Babar couldnt do a damn against C team india in 2018 haha
 
Ijaz Ahmed is one of those guys who does not get much appreciation but was also a great player. 1 level below Miandad but yeah, he is up there.
 
As a growing kid, I feared Ijaz Ahmed the most, over other illustrious names. I will not put him down.
Ijaz is extremely underrated and doesn't get mentioned alot. Mainly because he just like fakhar Kiwi zaman only switches on against certain teams.

However he switched on against the likes of Australia in their home den in test and the likes of India in odi. That's not an easy feat.
Ijaz Ahmed is one of those guys who does not get much appreciation but was also a great player. 1 level below Miandad but yeah, he is up there.
 
Pakistan No. 3 Ijaz Ahmed, ungainly, with a closed-off stance and a bottom-hand-heavy technique, did not win any batting beauty contests in his time. There was no doubting his calibre as a player, though: he made 12 Test hundreds and averaged a little under 40 overall; in his matches, against West Indies, Australia and England, that number went up to 50 or thereabouts.
Your previous post has a different thing mentioned
 
Anyone wants to put together a command 11t for this particular series only?

Sorry, I have not watched the cricket action myself as this series quality is too low for my standards.
 
Anyone wants to put together a command 11t for this particular series only?

Sorry, I have not watched the cricket action myself as this series quality is too low for my standards.
You missed a high class historic series with scintillating action. Bold declaration, Collapses, high impact fast bowling, bazball attempts, and stoic heroism from Luton. I think it could go down as an ATG series.

To top it all off there is a Shakespeare level press conference from Shan.

As far as making a combined level we won't fall for the Indian trap of dividing us and our brothers. The hearts of the two nations are combined and that's enough. When Bangladesh plays well Pakistan wins too and vice versa.
 
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