Congratulations India on winning their 8th Asia Cup title

[captain.hansolo]

what is going on here!

the team won. the opposition was routed in every other campaign, and our best batsman was not even playing.

people calling for the heads of others, do let me know who would replace them? and why do you suppose that as an arm chair critic of the game, have better judgement than experienced selectors who have picked the best 11 players.

 

[austerlitz]

So, they can do well the whole tournament and not so well in the final and suddenly, their abilities are hopeless?

That's as defeatist of an attitude you can get...

Our middle order has never performed .We won this tournament with 2 batsmen.We will be humiliated in WC because of thsi **** middle order.Worst middle order in living memory for me.Even in 90s azhar and jadeja use dto play well occasionally.We can never expect anything from this middle order.Walking wickets full of oldie hasbeens and TTFs.

 

[austerlitz]

what is going on here!

the team won. the opposition was routed in every other campaign, and our best batsman was not even playing.

people calling for the heads of others, do let me know who would replace them? and why do you suppose that as an arm chair critic of the game, have better judgement than experienced selectors who have picked the best 11 players.

What is going on is that the wc contender has a minnow middle order.
Rahul,Pant,Shaw,Gill and Iyer need to be tried in middle order ASAP.Deadwood needs to be booted .

 

[DuckMaster]

Congratulation Ruchira Palliyaguruge, Rod tucker and BCCI. Well played. Congratulations.

Sourest grapes thus far, Champion?

 

[Peshwa]

Pathetic indian team?
Really

 

[Reyansh2017]

India has no hope in hell with this middle order in which a hack who tuk tuks beyond imagination is coming at an important position with duds before and after him

 

[happydavy]

Had put money on bangla once Sharma got out... really wanted Dhoni and co. to get exposed and humiliated but I guess bhuvi saved them..can't believe we had a middle order of 35ish.

I had mentioned at the start of the tournament in one of the threads that I cudnt see Jadhav completing the full tournament without getting his hamstring injured. Selecting him again and again knowing very well that he gets injured fairly easily is complete waste of time..

 

[DuckMaster]

What is going on is that the wc contender has a minnow middle order.
Rahul,Pant,Shaw,Gill and Iyer need to be tried in middle order ASAP.Deadwood needs to be booted .

No Iyer please for sanity's sake. Worst batsman ever. And Shaw's technique is iffy too. Agree with the other three.

 

[happydavy]

what is going on here!

the team won. the opposition was routed in every other campaign, and our best batsman was not even playing.

people calling for the heads of others, do let me know who would replace them? and why do you suppose that as an arm chair critic of the game, have better judgement than experienced selectors who have picked the best 11 players.

If that's the logic then why join this forum? People express their views and ethng from players to selection to shot selection. If you are one of those conformist who believe selectors knows best and captain knows best then what exactly will you gain on this forum?

 

[austerlitz]

No Iyer please for sanity's sake. Worst batsman ever. And Shaw's technique is iffy too. Agree with the other three.

Iyer is scoring centuries in list A regularly.He also scored 3 fifties and was not given a long run.Technique is not an excuse in ODI cricket.Dhoni,Rayudu and Yadav all have bad technique.

 

[saintgrace]

Terrible sportsmanship from you, but my.mistake to expect

There is nothing better than a win but sometimes this cry babies make things more sweeter.

 

[Syed1]

Congrats India still the best side in Asia even without their best player. That is some achievement.


As for us we are not as bad as we showed in tourney hope we can bounce back before the WC.

 

[austerlitz]

Congrats India still the best side in Asia even without their best player. That is some achievement.


As for us we are not as bad as we showed in tourney hope we can bounce back before the WC.

Its a hollow victory.You got your reality check,by the time the idiot shastri and team management get their reality check on this minnow middle order it will be too late.I have little hope now of next year's WC.In actuality,pakistan gained a lot more from this than us.

 

[Josh]

Congratulations to India. Middle order needs a good batsmen though. Congratulations to Bangladesh as well. Specially Mashrafe, led from the front ..superb field placement and superb execution of game plan. Other captains can learn something from it. Batting let Bangladesh down.

 

[EliteCynical]

Royapettah is going have a silent night today! Happy for other places though.

Wow. Never knew about it. Around thousand lights?

 

[EliteCynical]

No Iyer please for sanity's sake. Worst batsman ever. And Shaw's technique is iffy too. Agree with the other three.

Agreed. Iyer should stay away from ODI team as far as possible

 

[EliteCynical]

This could be the worst possible result for India. All the chinks in the armor have been conviently brushed under the carpet

The woeful middle order has become a TTF now. DK & Dhoni have to go, end of story. Dhoni's SR against spinners for last 3 years has not been above 62. This year it is 58 and his overall SR also has taken a dip.
In fact if you take all wk batsmen after 2015 WC with min 1000 runs, Dhoni has the second least SR (least being Shai Hope) and his average is 42 (a good 8 points below his career avg boosted by not outs). The sooner he realises the better and steps away, coz no selector, captain or coach would have guts to drop him.
DK, the lesser said the better. Mental midget who was given a new life line after Nidhaas trophy but couldn't make full use.

Jhadav - Has far too many injury concerns, plus his batting hasn't been fully tested. His bowling could be a plus for India

Jadeja and Pandya - do not exude much confidence.

I'm not sure what is the solution to middle order problems but Pant has to come in ASAP IMO.

For once the bowling attack looks settled.

I was hoping for a humiliating defeat so that some heads would roll. Looks like that is not the case anymore. Smoke screen ahead of WC 2019.

 

[DuckMaster]

My IND WC Squad:

01. Sharma
02. Dhawan
03. Kohli (C) [I'd be happier with Sharma as the ODI Captain but that's not going to happen]
04. Rahane
05. Jadhav [Iffy fitness. All his wickets have come off harmless balls. But need him for balance]
06. Pant (WK)
07. Pandya [Not good enough but don't have any choices]
08. Kumar
09. Shami/Umesh
10. Kuldeep/Chahal
11. Bumrah

12. Gill/Rayudu [The fomer must be tried before WC... can be immensely successful against seam]
13. Umesh/Shami
14. Jadeja/Axar
15. Chahal/Kuldeep
16. Pandey [Terrific "A Team" record. Best fielder in team. No Godfather, hence always the sacrificial lamb.]

 

[EliteCynical]

Congrats India still the best side in Asia even without their best player. That is some achievement.


As for us we are not as bad as we showed in tourney hope we can bounce back before the WC.

In hindsight it was a better result for you. Heads may roll, loose ends would be tied up and you can ensure you do not carry passengers to the WC.

India on the other hand may realize, they have more than a couple of passengers during the WC. All it takes is to breach 1,2 and 3

 

[Sachin136]

Have some shame Rayudu, DK, MSD and step aside for someone more useful to the team!

We needed 4.5 RPO and still never looked comfortable with 5 wickets left, doesn't feel good with this last ball win.

Are you going to quit your job if you know there's some more qualified candidate?

 

[DuckMaster]

Iyer is scoring centuries in list A regularly.He also scored 3 fifties and was not given a long run.Technique is not an excuse in ODI cricket.Dhoni,Rayudu and Yadav all have bad technique.

Agree about the technique part. But in that case, what's wrong with Pandey? He perhaps the best record in A cricket... wins match after match for India A. And on top of that he is perhaps the best boundary rider in the country and the 2nd best fielder after Jadeja.

 

[EliteCynical]

Are you going to quit your job if you know there's some more qualified candidate?

What a ridiculous analogy saar. I am sorry to say you cannot equate the two. I am feeding my family and not representing my nation.

Dhoni for all his bravado, called a journo on stage and asked the same question (2015 WC Sf). Answer is YES, there is a better keeper batsman than you in the country. We do not need a Quick gun murguan who can do a stumping in 0.0005 secs and create a World record. Dhoni is the greatest keeper to spinners no doubt, but does not warrant a place just on that. His SR has taken a nose dive, cannot rotate strike and when he leaves the RRR is inevitably 3-4 runs more than when he came in.

 

[DuckMaster]

My IND WC Squad:

01. Sharma
02. Dhawan
03. Kohli (C) [I'd be happier with Sharma as the ODI Captain but that's not going to happen]
04. Rahane
05. Jadhav [Iffy fitness. All his wickets have come off harmless balls. But need him for balance]
06. Pant (WK)
07. Pandya [Not good enough but don't have any choices]
08. Kumar
09. Shami/Umesh
10. Kuldeep/Chahal
11. Bumrah

12. Gill/Rayudu [The fomer must be tried before WC... can be immensely successful against seam]
13. Umesh/Shami
14. Jadeja/Axar
15. Chahal/Kuldeep
16. Pandey [Terrific "A Team" record. Best fielder in team. No Godfather, hence always the sacrificial lamb.]

I forgot to fit in Rahul there, my bad.

 

[ManFan]

Both sides didn’t give an inch.

BD lost early wickets, recovered, and then India pulled back.

IND lost early wickets, built solid partnerships, and then BD almost won from a position that was only 20% in their favor.

But this victory will end up haunting IND’s WC campaign next year.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

India beat Pakistan by 8 wickets and 9 wickets respectively in this Asia Cup while teams like Bangladesh, Hong Kong and Afghanistan have made India sweat.

Honestly speaking the captain, coaching staff and chief selector needs to be held accountable for this humiliation on the grand stage.

Questions need to be asked, but when mentioning HK & Afghanistan know that India also rested players vs them.

 

[charlie007]

Congratulations Bangladesh! Your never say die attitude is turning me into a fan!
Well done India - a win is a win, we'll take it.

 

[The Viper]

My IND WC Squad:

01. Sharma
02. Dhawan
03. Kohli (C) [I'd be happier with Sharma as the ODI Captain but that's not going to happen]
04. Rahane
05. Jadhav [Iffy fitness. All his wickets have come off harmless balls. But need him for balance]
06. Pant (WK)
07. Pandya [Not good enough but don't have any choices]
08. Kumar
09. Shami/Umesh
10. Kuldeep/Chahal
11. Bumrah

12. Gill/Rayudu [The fomer must be tried before WC... can be immensely successful against seam]
13. Umesh/Shami
14. Jadeja/Axar
15. Chahal/Kuldeep
16. Pandey [Terrific "A Team" record. Best fielder in team. No Godfather, hence always the sacrificial lamb.]

Rahane is awful in LOI. Rahul for Rahane then it is a decent squad but MSD is not getting dropped.

 

[DuckMaster]

Rahane is awful in LOI. Rahul for Rahane then it is a decent squad but MSD is not getting dropped.

Thanks. I agree. Rahul has to be in the 16. MSD will reduce whatever chances India has to 50% by his presence... should retire gracefully now. Not happening we know.

 

[rhony]

Yes Dhoni is a liability in this team but he's here because there is no experience otherwise. It's a catch 22. Pant can score faster and is more dynamic now but I don't think Pant could have played the way Dhoni did today. The situation demanded him to stay and get the innings close to the target without losing wickets. Don't complain about SR today and the target wasn't steep. Pant is hot blooded and could have smashed a few and got out. Also Dhoni is needed for tactics.

I think it's a shame that Indian team management can't utilize Rahul and instead are still backing Rayudu and DK. That's where they will lose the world cup next year. Jadav is alright and if fit is a multi dimensional player. I'm impressed how calm he was scoring just singles as per the requirement and helped India cross the line.

 

[mystical man]

feeling ashamed of this batting performance by India...I do not have any hopes on this Indian team for next year WC

It's ok we don't need your hope as India can do without it

 

[EliteCynical]

Yes Dhoni is a liability in this team but he's here because there is no experience otherwise. It's a catch 22. Pant can score faster and is more dynamic now but I don't think Pant could have played the way Dhoni did today. The situation demanded him to stay and get the innings close to the target without losing wickets. Don't complain about SR today and the target wasn't steep. Pant is hot blooded and could have smashed a few and got out. Also Dhoni is needed for tactics.

I think it's a shame that Indian team management can't utilize Rahul and instead are still backing Rayudu and DK. That's where they will lose the world cup next year. Jadav is alright and if fit is a multi dimensional player. I'm impressed how calm he was scoring just singles as per the requirement and helped India cross the line.

Fair call, but assessment is not just based on today. The commentators are probably either blind or oblivious to the facts. Stats were being shown as to how Dhoni is a master chaser and whenever he has stayed not out, India has won 96% of the times. Dude, are they serious? Those are like 46 games. What about the countless games he failed to see us home.

I have nothing personal against Dhoni. It is just that last 3 years he has digressed so badly, it is not even funny anymore, he cant be hidden because we have a failing middle order.

I agree re Rahul. I think this series is it for DK, he ain't coming back I think and rightly so. Jhadav has fitness issues which he needs to work on. I will still back Rayadu and keep Rahul on the fringes.

Please no Rahane, Iyer, Pandey, DK and if possible no Dhoni too but that is a pipe dream

 

[Usman Chadda]

I have trolled you quite a lot in the recent past India, but it goes without saying that you are the most professional Asian side in world cricket at the moment. Congratulations. Deserved winners.

 

[rhony]

Fair call, but assessment is not just based on today. The commentators are probably either blind or oblivious to the facts. Stats were being shown as to how Dhoni is a master chaser and whenever he has stayed not out, India has won 96% of the times. Dude, are they serious? Those are like 46 games. What about the countless games he failed to see us home.

I have nothing personal against Dhoni. It is just that last 3 years he has digressed so badly, it is not even funny anymore, he cant be hidden because we have a failing middle order.

I agree re Rahul. I think this series is it for DK, he ain't coming back I think and rightly so. Jhadav has fitness issues which he needs to work on. I will still back Rayadu and keep Rahul on the fringes.

Please no Rahane, Iyer, Pandey, DK and if possible no Dhoni too but that is a pipe dream

Everybody knows Dhoni is past his prime. This Indian team believes in it's bowling to restrict opposition to a chaseable target. More often than not, they do. Dhoni is required to provide guidance in that middle order to Target those scores. I have no confidence in this team chasing 280 plus if top 3 go out early. No one from 4 to 7 is capable of scoring a hundred.

Yes DK is done I think. Rayudu at 4 looks very iffy to me. I believe it's still Rahul but he himself is stating that he needs to.learn middle order batting. Rahul at 3 and Kohli at 4 might be the way to go if they can't find another. Iyer is a hack, Rahane isn't fit for ODIs, pandey is a TTF. Dhoni at 5, Jadav at 6, Pandya at 7 will give India the depth and dynamism at the top. Top 4 in that case are capable of scoring big at a fair clip and can set the game up.

 

[urnotserious]

This was the best outcome for India. They won the Asia cup again and didn't win convincingly against awful teams which will cause them to look inward, especially towards the middle order instead of resting on laurels and getting complacent.

Remove Dhoni, Jadhav, KKD and replace them with hopefully better players.

Win-win.

 

[rhony]

Indian top order can bat and it appears lower order isn't a mug either. 40+ run partnership against very good bowling in a pressure final isn't a joke. It's the no.4 spot that will make or break India in the WC.

 

[rhony]

This was the best outcome for India. They won the Asia cup again and didn't win convincingly against awful teams which will cause them to look inward, especially towards the middle order instead of resting on laurels and getting complacent.

Remove Dhoni, Jadhav, KKD and replace them with hopefully better players.

Win-win.

Jadhav? Why? He was my Indian MOM today. Picked wickets and scored under pressure. DK should go. Dhoni will not go. He is too valuable in the middle and behind the stumps and helping out Kohli in captaincy. He isn't a finisher anymore but can stick around and guide the inexperienced middle order.

 

[BaankeJi]

what is going on here!

the team won. the opposition was routed in every other campaign, and our best batsman was not even playing.

people calling for the heads of others, do let me know who would replace them? and why do you suppose that as an arm chair critic of the game, have better judgement than experienced selectors who have picked the best 11 players.

Never ever underestimate the stupidity of selectors!!

If anything, armchair critics are more trustworthy than selectors.

 

[Buffet]

Indian team has top 3 good batsmen. 2 good spinners. 2 good pacers. That's 7 players. Other 4 players are not so great right now. I am puzzled by Indians not playing Rahul consistently. he may not have gone big in earlier matches, but clearly he should be playing ahead of other 4. He has shots to go big, others lack that skill. India need to replace these few batsmen if they want to get near winning the WC.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

India were far too good. Bangla done well but needed 260 to win.

 

[PakLFC]

Indis were easily the best team in the tournament and worthy winners. That said, prior to the tournament padosi fans were dismissing the tournament as a hindrance so their win doesn't matter

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Everybody knows Dhoni is past his prime. This Indian team believes in it's bowling to restrict opposition to a chaseable target. More often than not, they do. Dhoni is required to provide guidance in that middle order to Target those scores. I have no confidence in this team chasing 280 plus if top 3 go out early. No one from 4 to 7 is capable of scoring a hundred.

Yes DK is done I think. Rayudu at 4 looks very iffy to me. I believe it's still Rahul but he himself is stating that he needs to.learn middle order batting. Rahul at 3 and Kohli at 4 might be the way to go if they can't find another. Iyer is a hack, Rahane isn't fit for ODIs, pandey is a TTF. Dhoni at 5, Jadav at 6, Pandya at 7 will give India the depth and dynamism at the top. Top 4 in that case are capable of scoring big at a fair clip and can set the game up.

They can believe in the bowling all they want. But really they are just hiding the flaws in the middle order. The bowling and top3 have carried this team for very long now . Also that reality check in CT final hasnt left them any wiser. We are NOT a great chasing side for anything more than 280 against a good bowling attack. Maybe around 2011 when we had a terrific ODI batting lineup until 7 but certainly not now. This strategy of bowling first almost backfired today and will cost us important matches time and again.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

A very hollow win. This team will get smashed at the World Cup and shastri and the management look extremely complacent. A thrashing in this tournament would've been better for Indian cricket.

 

[MP2011]

Meaningless win. Would have been a goodish win had we tried the likes Gill, Shaw and Pant in this tourney. But no, we had to play grandpas!

 

[MP2011]

However, well played Bangladesh. Have been heart broken too many times by India of late.

 

[MP2011]

Also such shocking fitness of Jadhav! If you pull your hammy just by taking a tight single then it speaks volumes about your abilities as a sportsman and how seriously you take your fitness.

 

[MP2011]

Jadeja is a serial choker. Almost every time India wants him to stay till the end, he chokes.

 

[happydavy]

Also such shocking fitness of Jadhav! If you pull your hammy just by taking a tight single then it speaks volumes about your abilities as a sportsman and how seriously you take your fitness.

I predicted on PP even before the tournament started that jadhav will be injured by 3rd or 4th match. Such is his fitness level, that getting injured in the middle of a tournament is a norm and not aberration.

 

[Pakpak]

Clinical, professional and this is without Kohli, played excellent..

 

[cricketfanfirst]

Jadeja is a serial choker. Almost every time India wants him to stay till the end, he chokes.

He is not a choker, he is a senseless fellow. What was the need for him to go for big shots in yesterday's situation, he was backing away for a wild slog, as Gavaskar says for 'glory shots'. He should be fired just for his irresponsible batting and also in CT final he should have sacrificed his wicket for Pandya who was in red hot form. And also, how can I forget his stupidity in the match against Australia in 2009 when Sachin played an all time great innings.

Jadeja has good ability as a batsman but always misses out due to his instincts to have 'glory'; I simply hate such players who are irresponsible with their play. Jadeja has all qualities to be a superb ODI player with his outstanding fielding, but due to his immature behaviour , I cannot trust him when match is on the line, he simply doesn't have the temperament.

 

[Abhilash93]

Indian team has top 3 good batsmen. 2 good spinners. 2 good pacers. That's 7 players. Other 4 players are not so great right now. I am puzzled by Indians not playing Rahul consistently. he may not have gone big in earlier matches, but clearly he should be playing ahead of other 4. He has shots to go big, others lack that skill. India need to replace these few batsmen if they want to get near winning the WC.

Out of the 4, unfortunately Dhoni is not going anywhere. Rahul, Jadhav and Pandya are decent for the other 3 spots.

I personally feel Jadhav is pretty underrated as a batsman (doesn't get to bat most of the times). Having watched him for quite a few years in domestic cricket, I'd say he deserves his place in the ODI XI.

Hopefully, they get rid of Rayudu & Karthik and give KL Rahul enough chances at 4 before the WC.

 

[Sidilicious]

Out of the 4, unfortunately Dhoni is not going anywhere. Rahul, Jadhav and Pandya are decent for the other 3 spots.

I personally feel Jadhav is pretty underrated as a batsman (doesn't get to bat most of the times). Having watched him for quite a few years in domestic cricket, I'd say he deserves his place in the ODI XI.

Hopefully, they get rid of Rayudu & Karthik and give KL Rahul enough chances at 4 before the WC.

pretty much this.

WK (and no.5) - Ideally, we had replaced MS after the CT final, but its too late now. Pant might be a better bat, but we have not seen and India without MS guiding from behind. If he retires now, there is no knowing how Kohli would react in tight situations.

No. 4 - We need to give Rahul a go for 8-10 matches. Really have no interest in seeing Rayudu and Karthik there. Both have had their chances and its time for them to depart.

No. 6/7 - Ideally we have players here who are all-rounders - 1 pace bowling and 1 spin bowling. So Pandya and Jhadhav fit in here fine. For the spin allrounders slot, I would have liked the selectors to have tried out Krunal Pandya or Washington Sundar. But, Jhadhav has done ok so far to be given a slightly longer run.

As for the pace bowling all rounder, Pandya seems to be the only choice. He needs to improve his batting significantly and become more reliable.

 

[RamLakhan]

Yeh i think they need to throw out dhoni ,rayudu and karthik
XI shud be like

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Rahul
Pant
Pandya
Jadeja/jadhav
Kuldeep/chahal
Bhuvi/shami
Bumrah
Umesh/khaleel

Tho i think prithwi shaw shud be introduced before wc and shud be in as exta players and i think pant and rahul must be way to go give them 2-3 series rather than dropping them every 2 matches

Thanks for thinking alike. India should definitely play 3 seamers outside Asia and Pandya should play as 4th seamer. That relaxes him so much and he can concentrate more on his batting! Bumrah, Bhuvi should play (don't worry about stats of Bhuvi! Just take him because WC is in England & he adds depth to the batting), 3rd seamer can be Khaleel, Umesh, etc (I think we can sort this out). This means only 1 out of Kuldeep/Chahal can play (but both can be in the squad) depending on opponents (Kuldeep should be the 1st choice, but more right handers or if the pitch is too flatter then Chahal) Jadeja & Jadhav should fight for the 2nd alrounder spot (both can be in the squad again!) Out of Jadhav, DK & Rayudu, I want only Jadhav in the squad because he can at least he can bowl! And we know the value of Jadeja (his fielding)

This gives lot of depth to both batting & bowling. Especially if we sort out that 4th batsman (If Rahul has to play, then he has to be given all the confidence in the world that you are regular in Tests as opener & at No.4 in ODIs at least till world cup! His slip catching can come handy in WC, Australia & NZ series as well!) Pant is the kind of guy who should come at No.5, enough of Dhoni.

 

[DHONI183]

Yup, mighty congratulations to India. All the credit should go to their bowlers for not only winning the final but for their performance in the whole tournament which always ensured that India were on top. Not to forget the batting contribution put in yesterday by Jadeja, Bhuvneshwar and then those few vital runs by Kuldeep. Surely, without that partnership between the former two, India would´ve lost the game by a long way. Jadhav´s heroic running with that injury after returning to bat shouldn´t be forgotten either.

India must think deep with regards to their middle-order. I don´t remember the last time that they put in any match defining contribution. A lot of the blame for this obvious lies with Dhoni´s lack of form and waning reflexes. However, India must sort this out before the World Cup next year because this could on its own lose India matches. Their whole batting line-up rests on the shoulders of Rohit, Dhawan and Kohli. What´s not helping here of course is India´s adamance to stick with a mediocre and tried and tested failure like Karthik, who for reasons beyond me keeps getting chances and keeps making comebacks.

As for Bangladesh, I wouldn´t put even one bit blame for yesterday´s loss on their bowling, fielding, captaincy or even commitment. They were fired up and fully focused, really looking into the eyes of the opposition. What dearly cost them obviously is the reckless batting by their middle and lower-order. The shots played by Mushfiqur and Mahmudullah to get out were atrocious to say the least! You expect better from seniors like them. Mushfiq of course can be forgiven for he had single-handed carried their batting in their victories over Sri Lanka and Pakistan.

 

[RamLakhan]

Kohli is missing a great chance of two good shots at World Cup as captain (and he will have two good teams in his arsenal. The first team has Rohit, Dhawan, Rahul, Pant, Bumrah, Kuldeep, Pandya, etc and the next one has Shaw, Gill, Pant, Pandya, Nagarkoti, Mavi, etc) But he is busy bootlicking Shastri & Dhoni and messing up everything!) He will soon realize this after losing captaincy post World Cup!

 

[Peshwa]

Congratulation Ruchira Palliyaguruge, Rod tucker and BCCI. Well played. Congratulations.

Congratulations to and your team bro
Even without Tamim and Shakib Bangladesh played brilliant cricket and fought till the end

 

[DHONI183]

I must ask though, do these commentators have no knowledge of the pitches and the conditions in the UAE? Almost before every match I´d heard aiming at 280s and 300s, yet in each match even 250 became a daunting task - with only a couple of times it having been achieved(?). I expected better from someone like Kevin Pietersen, someone who has played quite a bit on those tracks. The scores that you got in the Asia Cup are exactly within the usual range as witnessed before in the past in the UAE.

 

[MP2011]

For his extremely poor fitness alone, Jadhav should be permanently beched. However that's not going to happen in this age of muddled selection policies. So what happened to Kohli's much touted fitness first mantra?

 

[DHONI183]

Again, Bangladesh can go home with their heads held high. They should in fact draw a lot of encouragement from the fact that they made to the final and almost won it despite being without Tamim and then Shakib. A very good sign in my opinion, a sign that they´re developing as a team without over-relying on one or two big players.

 

[the_outsider]

For his extremely poor fitness alone, Jadhav should be permanently beched. However that's not going to happen in this age of muddled selection policies. So what happened to Kohli's much touted fitness first mantra?

It's a hamstring tear. It can happen to any sportsman anytime. Jhadav is otherwise a very fit player. Plus, he is our most utility player in the squad. Why would you not want him in the XI?

 

[MP2011]

Either you didn't see how he got injured or just acting too innocent!

 

[MP2011]

Using Jadhav and fitness in same sentence is blasphemous.

 

[MP2011]

As for him being utility player, well he'll /was be cannon fodder on pitches that matter, that is Eng pitches.

 

[MP2011]

That's why true well wishers of Indian cricket have alluded to that this Asia cup win will do more harm to Indian cricket than any good. These TTFs will continue to make merry.

If India somehow manages to win CWC next year, it'll be biggest fluke ever.

 

[the_outsider]

Either you didn't see how he got injured or just acting too innocent!

I saw how he got injured. I don't think you understand how muscle tears work.

There have been so many players who have done in their hammy on the field.

One that comes to mind right away is Ponting. I suppose you think even Ponting has no fitness.

 

[MP2011]

Lol at muscle tear! Keep yourself happy with these 'all is well in Indian cricket' theories. Some day you might believe yourself.

 

[the_outsider]

Lol at muscle tear! Keep yourself happy with these 'all is well in Indian cricket' theories. Some day you might believe yourself.

I didn't say all is well at all. But you are clearly trying to project your thoughts on to a situation that has nothing to do with our actual problems.

We have a problem with our middle order, no doubt. But fitness is not a problem for the ICT.

PS: And I see you had no response to Ponting's hammy tear. Why is that?

 

[MP2011]

Mentioning Jadhav and Ponting in same sentence is blasphemy even if it is only for their hammies!

 

[the_outsider]

Mentioning Jadhav and Ponting in same sentence is blasphemy even if it is only for their hammies!

Unless you think white-people blood and bones are somehow superior to brown-people blood and bones, I don't see how it's "blasphemous" to compare fitness standards.

I am comparing fitness levels, not cricketing skills. And you are just trolling without actually engaging in any meaningful debate. So I'm gonna bow out of this nonsense. Goodbye.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Congratulations boys!!!!

 

[CricVet]

Congratulations to India. The top order used the brain to fight out the conditions and thoroughly deserve the cup. BD also thrived in such conditions and could cause an upset but only fell short. I personally hate the cricket in UAE and I hope that Pakistan finds a home somewhere else for its cricket.

 

[MP2011]

Unless you think white-people blood and bones are somehow superior to brown-people blood and bones, I don't see how it's "blasphemous" to compare fitness standards.

I am comparing fitness levels, not cricketing skills. And you are just trolling without actually engaging in any meaningful debate. So I'm gonna bow out of this nonsense. Goodbye.

Looks like you can't read. Fair enough.

I don't have any intentions to even engage a known establishment stooge either, for whom all is well. Unlike you I care for Indian cricket who will never vouch for known cancers like Dhoni, Karthik, Rayudu, Jadhav in Indian team.

 

[MP2011]

And more lol at comparing fitness levels of Jadhav and Ponting.

The latter played top class cricket for well, 16-17 years. The former, its better I don't speak of his 'fitness'.

 

[Sherlock]

This is what you call a professional outfit. Struggling and yet the can still cross the line. Says a lot about their mentality.

Well done India and their fans.

 

[Balthazar]

These Asian teams are so pathetic that our middle-order hardly got any chance to bat. This is why I am against playing minnows.

 

[Saj]

India were easily the best team, but I must say the standard of Asian teams at the moment isn't great.

 

[Sam99]

India were easily the best team, but I must say the standard of Asian teams at the moment isn't great.

Srilanka has gone down badly. Pakistan need to improve their cricket in these conditions. Pakistan team will do well with their bowling in bit helpful conditions but idk if they have good batsman to bat in those conditions.

 

[MP2011]

Not just Shastri but Kohli, Rohit etc all sail in same boat. All of them are like you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.

 

[WengerOut]

Not just Shastri but Kohli, Rohit etc all sail in same boat. All of them are like you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.

How did a good for nothing, saliva sprayer become so powerful coach!!

 

[MP2011]

I mean all of them are so smug with power just like India's current ruling dispensation.

 

[WengerOut]

Shastri is just a dummy