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Cricket or Politics — Is the ICC losing its core purpose?

Should the ICC stay above politics and focus solely on promoting cricket?


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SA not only survived by flourishd despite not playing international cricket.

Why will cricket will die in Paksitan just because this BCCI and ICC saga?

Pakistan has 250M population and cricket as the biggest sports. Once economy gets better in Pakistan , no reason to not tap into that and generated enough money.

Cricket is not going anywhere in Pakistan.
South Africa had a flourishing economy which kept the cricket alive. Rand was stronger than USD. Pakistan doesn’t have that luxury.
Look at hockey and squash. Sports is an expensive business and hence positive correlation between economy and Olympic medal tally
 
You're right as the market and money often dictate terms.

SA not only survived by flourishd despite not playing international cricket.

Why will cricket will die in Paksitan just because this BCCI and ICC saga?

Pakistan has 250M population and cricket as the biggest sports. Once economy gets better in Pakistan , no reason to not tap into that and generated enough money.

Cricket is not going anywhere in Pakistan.


If you don't get to play regular cricket, all over the world, for more than 3 tests how do you develop well honed competitive skills

The financial disparity will mirror the playing disparity
 
Some statements that outgoing ICC Chairman Greg Barclay made in an interview. Quite telling and I guess also goes to show how powerless he is despite being the Chairman of the ICC:

"I think he's [Jay Shah] got a great opportunity to use what he's got in his background to help India take the game to another level, but without making it sort of under the yoke of India as well."

"We're really lucky to have India, they're a massive contributor to the game across all the measures, but one country having that amount of power and influence does distort a whole lot of other outcomes, which is not necessarily helpful in terms of that global growth."


On Australia not playing Afghanistan though its funny how it applies to a certain other rivalry aswell:

"If you really want to make a political statement, don't play them in a World Cup. Sure, it might cost you a semi-final place, but principles are principles. It's not about having half a principle."
 
Some statements that outgoing ICC Chairman Greg Barclay made in an interview. Quite telling and I guess also goes to show how powerless he is despite being the Chairman of the ICC:

"I think he's [Jay Shah] got a great opportunity to use what he's got in his background to help India take the game to another level, but without making it sort of under the yoke of India as well."

"We're really lucky to have India, they're a massive contributor to the game across all the measures, but one country having that amount of power and influence does distort a whole lot of other outcomes, which is not necessarily helpful in terms of that global growth."


On Australia not playing Afghanistan though its funny how it applies to a certain other rivalry aswell:

"If you really want to make a political statement, don't play them in a World Cup. Sure, it might cost you a semi-final place, but principles are principles. It's not about having half a principle."
It was a rather poor interview.

He claimed to have been unaware that South Africa were playing international cricket currently as a result of how congested the cricket schedule is

That's quite poor from a chairman of what is essentially a 12 team sport.

Now he has placed all the burden at Jay Shahs feet despite being at the helm for four years.
 
ICC doesn’t govern countries and their policies and hence has no say whatsoever. They couldn’t make Australia host the Afghans since the last few years, couldn’t have England travel to Zimbabwe, and will have no say on whether India travel to Pakistan.
Sport has and will always remain below the societal, ideological, and political relations.
It doesn’t matter who comes into power, the cricket governing body itself lacks jurisdiction.
 
It was a rather poor interview.

He claimed to have been unaware that South Africa were playing international cricket currently as a result of how congested the cricket schedule is

That's quite poor from a chairman of what is essentially a 12 team sport.

Now he has placed all the burden at Jay Shahs feet despite being at the helm for four years.
Don't really blame him for not knowing that. The international cricket calendar is a joke with the endless amount of bilateral T20I series.

And you're saying as if he was actually in control of the ICC and responsible for any of the key decision-making. He was just a decoration piece like any other ICC Chairman who isn't Indian would be.
 
Some statements that outgoing ICC Chairman Greg Barclay made in an interview. Quite telling and I guess also goes to show how powerless he is despite being the Chairman of the ICC:

"I think he's [Jay Shah] got a great opportunity to use what he's got in his background to help India take the game to another level, but without making it sort of under the yoke of India as well."

"We're really lucky to have India, they're a massive contributor to the game across all the measures, but one country having that amount of power and influence does distort a whole lot of other outcomes, which is not necessarily helpful in terms of that global growth."


On Australia not playing Afghanistan though its funny how it applies to a certain other rivalry aswell:

"If you really want to make a political statement, don't play them in a World Cup. Sure, it might cost you a semi-final place, but principles are principles. It's not about having half a principle."
The money is great, but ultimately BCCI control not great long term.
 
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ICC is useless.

They knew the sitaution before gving tournament to Pakistan. Entire tournement should have been happening in Pakistan. Nothing has changed from 2021 to now. This whole hybrid stuff is non-sense.
 
The most striking aspect of the Champions Trophy saga is that the ICC has yet to make any public statement regarding the delay. Once a governing body, it has now been reduced to an event management organization, and it no longer appears to be effectively managing events.
 
If there is one board that has a chance to take on the politics of ICC/BCCI its PCB.

But for that to happen, you need an educated Pakistani awaam, with an educated Pakistani govt with a whole PCB staff filled with educated people.

The biggest advantage PCB has is that BCCI is involved in discrimination, be it with regards to IPL or International cricket. If PCB was to create awareness on this issue and file proper cases they can easily beat BCCI down. Remember, ICC sanctions BCCI/IPL, ICC doesnt come under BCCI.

Now to do all this, you need an educated board. Our board is filled with desi people that dont know about whats going on in the world, and how you can take advantage of a woke society.

This is why education is important everywhere in life, you atleast know what your rights are. PCB officials think that international bodies also run like Pakistan.

For 16 years BCCI has been involved in discrimination. They will one day get caught and have to pay a hefty price for it.

321....... in comes unpaid bcci lawyers......
 
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ICC doesn’t govern countries and their policies and hence has no say whatsoever. They couldn’t make Australia host the Afghans since the last few years, couldn’t have England travel to Zimbabwe, and will have no say on whether India travel to Pakistan.
Sport has and will always remain below the societal, ideological, and political relations.
It doesn’t matter who comes into power, the cricket governing body itself lacks jurisdiction.
you really need to go watch some football or follow how FIFA runs itself.
 
If you don't get to play regular cricket, all over the world, for more than 3 tests how do you develop well honed competitive skills

The financial disparity will mirror the playing disparity
Except India, Pakistan can play regularly against all other teams with 3 or more tests. What stopping Pakistan to do so? ICC does not dictate bilateral series. I think you are being too pessimistic.
 
The most striking aspect of the Champions Trophy saga is that the ICC has yet to make any public statement regarding the delay. Once a governing body, it has now been reduced to an event management organization, and it no longer appears to be effectively managing events.
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ICC should have been on top of it due to being the governing body.
 
ICC is useless.

They knew the sitaution before gving tournament to Pakistan. Entire tournement should have been happening in Pakistan. Nothing has changed from 2021 to now. This whole hybrid stuff is non-sense.

ICC should've replaced India with SL. That would've been the right thing to do.
 
The ongoing disagreement between PCB and BCCI over the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 shows how weak the ICC looks when it comes to Indian politics. The PCB suggested a hybrid model with a "partnership formula," but BCCI rejected it, and the ICC hasn’t stepped in to solve the issue. This is causing delays, and broadcasters are now pushing for the schedule to be finalized. The situation is complicated by the political influence of India and the strong position of the BCCI within the ICC. It’s frustrating to see how the ICC is struggling to make a decision, caught between politics and the game.
 
Except India, Pakistan can play regularly against all other teams with 3 or more tests. What stopping Pakistan to do so? ICC does not dictate bilateral series. I think you are being too pessimistic.
The lack of big test series cricket, past and future is simply the reality
 
I think those that are interested in the cricket and those that run cricket need to ask themselves what is the role of money in the game: is it a means or is it an end? Or to put it in the words of Gideon Haigh: “does cricket make money in order to exist, or does it exist in order to make money?”

To be sure commercialisation has brought many benefits to the game over the years. Players are better remunerated. Innovation has been enabled. There is no longer room for the condescension and paternalism of the old stuffy ruling guard.

But surely it has gone too far. We now have the absurd situation where ICC manipulates which teams are put in which groups to maximise income.

Money has become the testimony of faith for many in the game: ‘there is no God, but money’.
 
Will Jay Shah led ICC take any disciplinary action against BCCI for their recent shenanigans? Although the answer is obvious
 
Why these hypocrite, greedy and pathetic cricket boards (and their governments) who bring politics into only bilateral series .... and go ahead play in ICC tournaments without any issues? Hypocrisy and greed at it's finest!
 
Governments in some countries are unfortunately extremists like the Taliban and Indian government. The ICC is unable to tackle this head on and don't enforce the proper rules for ACB and BCCI.
 
Will Jay Shah led ICC take any disciplinary action against BCCI for their recent shenanigans? Although the answer is obvious

What shenanigans? The government of India hasn't given clearance for Indian team or its members to visit Pakistan.

What will BCCI or ICC do?
 
Why these hypocrite, greedy and pathetic cricket boards (and their governments) who bring politics into only bilateral series .... and go ahead play in ICC tournaments without any issues? Hypocrisy and greed at it's finest!

Why will anyone gift its hostile neighbour free points and help them?

PCB was Very happy boycotting tours to India in 1991 and 1993. Even boycotted the 1990 Asia Cup. But came to play the 1996 WC.
 
Why will anyone gift its hostile neighbour free points and help them?

PCB was Very happy boycotting tours to India in 1991 and 1993. Even boycotted the 1990 Asia Cup. But came to play the 1996 WC.

1. >>Why will anyone gift its hostile neighbour free points and help them?
That was my question... why give the same hostile neighbors free points in ICC tournaments?
Are you saying hypocrite and greedy cricket boards - first allow themselves to put labels (hostile etc) on any nations and then pick and choose the matches?

2. >>PCB was Very happy
I did not name any cricket board. Australian cricket board is also refusing to play Afghanistan.

3. >>Even boycotted the 1990 Asia Cup. But came to play the 1996 WC.
Six years is very long time. Look at the list of matches between India and Pakistan below. Pakistan did play in UAE in 1991 & 1994 - and both tournaments were NOT ICC tournaments.

4. >>PCB was Very happy boycotting tours to India in 1991 and 1993.
Can you please provide any links to these two boycotts (1991 and 1993)? Were those test series or ? I do recall PCB boycotted at least one Asia Cup.


5. Keeping count.
Since you have kept the count of PCB's boycott of Indian tours - (even though I had not heard of 1991 and 1993 boycott), just to be fair.... how many time BCCI has refused to come to Pakistan?




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1. >>Why will anyone gift its hostile neighbour free points and help them?
That was my question... why give the same hostile neighbors free points in ICC tournaments?
Are you saying hypocrite and greedy cricket boards - first allow themselves to put labels (hostile etc) on any nations and then pick and choose the matches?

2. >>PCB was Very happy
I did not name any cricket board. Australian cricket board is also refusing to play Afghanistan.

3. >>Even boycotted the 1990 Asia Cup. But came to play the 1996 WC.
Six years is very long time. Look at the list of matches between India and Pakistan below. Pakistan did play in UAE in 1991 & 1994 - and both tournaments were NOT ICC tournaments.

4. >>PCB was Very happy boycotting tours to India in 1991 and 1993.
Can you please provide any links to these two boycotts (1991 and 1993)? Were those test series or ? I do recall PCB boycotted at least one Asia Cup.


5. Keeping count.
Since you have kept the count of PCB's boycott of Indian tours - (even though I had not heard of 1991 and 1993 boycott), just to be fair.... how many time BCCI has refused to come to Pakistan?




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1. India isn't giving away any free points.

2. I am talking about PCB. Not interested in CA or ECB.

3. India Pakistan kept playing in neutral territory but Pakistan refused to come to India.

4. 1991-92 bilateral tour.

1993 Hero Cup, pakistan first agreed to come then pulled out 4 days before the tournament.

5. Once PCB started the boycott business, they cannot control India's retaliation. That's not in their hands.
 
I'll say this right now-the result Pakistan got in return for giving up India coming to Pakistan was pretty decent. Per the official hosting approval it's clear that both Pakistan and India are now free to chart their own course over the next few years and true cricketing neutrality has become the norm. India will not make money from Pakistan. Pakistan will not make money from India.

As far as the ICC goes, there's been a massive lack of true corporate strategy the past few years. Everything has been dictated by "how much money can we get out of India for this event". It's stupid. It shows incompetence. It's not just the champions trophy.
I could appreciate the support United States cricket has been given over the past decade or so, but even the T20 World Cup was horrifically managed. How do you take a loss on a tournament partially hosted in the States with sellout crowds for most of the fixtures? Where was the strategy to win over US businesses for corporate sponsorship? Where was the strategy to win over American fans who were not of desi descent? Instead, most US games were supported by Indian fans and Pakistani fans who went to Pakistan matches only. There was no marketing. This tournament was announced well ahead of time, so where was the push to get ESPN or some other major American broadcaster on board? If you land ESPN you land their full marketing arm who would have pushed the match extremely hard and likely gotten some strong ratings instead of it being PPV on Willow. There is nothing going on sports wise in the summer in the USA aside from NHL/NBA finals and MLB, and you could have planned around that.
Going beyond the states-where's the effort to bring China into the game? Hong Kong was such a solid associate side for so many years, now they're really getting taken over by the Chinese. So why isn't there a push to bring China into the game and bring their money into the game? They're not a small economy. They've bought into basketball and soccer, so why not cricket?If Pakistan and China are all-weather friends then this would be something huge. You've got access to a market with over a billion people in the same geographical area and you are not even trying to bring them into the game?

There is PLENTY of money to be had by growing the game. But as has been stated before much of the focus has been to squeeze as much cash as possible out of India and to a lesser extent Pakistan, England, and Australia. I am glad Pakistan finally grew some balls to push back against India as it exposed the truth-India is dependent on its broadcasters. Pakistan has, frankly, always been the country that focused on growing the game-they brought Afghanistan and Sri Lanka to the table and got them to where they could stand on their own (India only came in after the hard yards are done). If Pakistan is willing to work at this, they should continue to focus on growing the game so that you have more money from more sources-and India's selfishness will see them cast down once bigger sporting marketing come to push back against Indian bullying.
 
I'll say this right now-the result Pakistan got in return for giving up India coming to Pakistan was pretty decent. Per the official hosting approval it's clear that both Pakistan and India are now free to chart their own course over the next few years and true cricketing neutrality has become the norm. India will not make money from Pakistan. Pakistan will not make money from India.

As far as the ICC goes, there's been a massive lack of true corporate strategy the past few years. Everything has been dictated by "how much money can we get out of India for this event". It's stupid. It shows incompetence. It's not just the champions trophy.
I could appreciate the support United States cricket has been given over the past decade or so, but even the T20 World Cup was horrifically managed. How do you take a loss on a tournament partially hosted in the States with sellout crowds for most of the fixtures? Where was the strategy to win over US businesses for corporate sponsorship? Where was the strategy to win over American fans who were not of desi descent? Instead, most US games were supported by Indian fans and Pakistani fans who went to Pakistan matches only. There was no marketing. This tournament was announced well ahead of time, so where was the push to get ESPN or some other major American broadcaster on board? If you land ESPN you land their full marketing arm who would have pushed the match extremely hard and likely gotten some strong ratings instead of it being PPV on Willow. There is nothing going on sports wise in the summer in the USA aside from NHL/NBA finals and MLB, and you could have planned around that.
Going beyond the states-where's the effort to bring China into the game? Hong Kong was such a solid associate side for so many years, now they're really getting taken over by the Chinese. So why isn't there a push to bring China into the game and bring their money into the game? They're not a small economy. They've bought into basketball and soccer, so why not cricket?If Pakistan and China are all-weather friends then this would be something huge. You've got access to a market with over a billion people in the same geographical area and you are not even trying to bring them into the game?

There is PLENTY of money to be had by growing the game. But as has been stated before much of the focus has been to squeeze as much cash as possible out of India and to a lesser extent Pakistan, England, and Australia. I am glad Pakistan finally grew some balls to push back against India as it exposed the truth-India is dependent on its broadcasters. Pakistan has, frankly, always been the country that focused on growing the game-they brought Afghanistan and Sri Lanka to the table and got them to where they could stand on their own (India only came in after the hard yards are done). If Pakistan is willing to work at this, they should continue to focus on growing the game so that you have more money from more sources-and India's selfishness will see them cast down once bigger sporting marketing come to push back against Indian bullying.
Champion trophy marketing is zero. All the talk about can Pakistan stadiums will be ready on time

This is not a champion trophy but a construction trophy. PCB is most incompetent board who were waiting for the last moment for the renovation but now blaming on BCCI or ICC.

When a single country is generating the 80%+ revenue for ICC just because other board's are useless and just talking big but doing nothing to marketing the cricket in own countries.

When you're surviving on ICC handout than just sit down at the corner instead talking big.

:kp
 
Champion trophy marketing is zero. All the talk about can Pakistan stadiums will be ready on time

This is not a champion trophy but a construction trophy. PCB is most incompetent board who were waiting for the last moment for the renovation but now blaming on BCCI or ICC.

When a single country is generating the 80%+ revenue for ICC just because other board's are useless and just talking big but doing nothing to marketing the cricket in own countries.

When you're surviving on ICC handout than just sit down at the corner instead talking big.

:kp
Show one statement from PCB blaming BCCI for anything to do with stadiums
 
Show one statement from PCB blaming BCCI for anything to do with stadiums
Check the other threads where pakistan fans blamed on BCCI/ ICC.

Some of delusion fans even think all the stadiums renovation works happening at the last moments because ICC gave Pakistan $70mn for the champions trophy too late .lol

:kp
 
I'll say this right now-the result Pakistan got in return for giving up India coming to Pakistan was pretty decent. Per the official hosting approval it's clear that both Pakistan and India are now free to chart their own course over the next few years and true cricketing neutrality has become the norm. India will not make money from Pakistan. Pakistan will not make money from India.

As far as the ICC goes, there's been a massive lack of true corporate strategy the past few years. Everything has been dictated by "how much money can we get out of India for this event". It's stupid. It shows incompetence. It's not just the champions trophy.
I could appreciate the support United States cricket has been given over the past decade or so, but even the T20 World Cup was horrifically managed. How do you take a loss on a tournament partially hosted in the States with sellout crowds for most of the fixtures? Where was the strategy to win over US businesses for corporate sponsorship? Where was the strategy to win over American fans who were not of desi descent? Instead, most US games were supported by Indian fans and Pakistani fans who went to Pakistan matches only. There was no marketing. This tournament was announced well ahead of time, so where was the push to get ESPN or some other major American broadcaster on board? If you land ESPN you land their full marketing arm who would have pushed the match extremely hard and likely gotten some strong ratings instead of it being PPV on Willow. There is nothing going on sports wise in the summer in the USA aside from NHL/NBA finals and MLB, and you could have planned around that.
Going beyond the states-where's the effort to bring China into the game? Hong Kong was such a solid associate side for so many years, now they're really getting taken over by the Chinese. So why isn't there a push to bring China into the game and bring their money into the game? They're not a small economy. They've bought into basketball and soccer, so why not cricket?If Pakistan and China are all-weather friends then this would be something huge. You've got access to a market with over a billion people in the same geographical area and you are not even trying to bring them into the game?

There is PLENTY of money to be had by growing the game. But as has been stated before much of the focus has been to squeeze as much cash as possible out of India and to a lesser extent Pakistan, England, and Australia. I am glad Pakistan finally grew some balls to push back against India as it exposed the truth-India is dependent on its broadcasters. Pakistan has, frankly, always been the country that focused on growing the game-they brought Afghanistan and Sri Lanka to the table and got them to where they could stand on their own (India only came in after the hard yards are done). If Pakistan is willing to work at this, they should continue to focus on growing the game so that you have more money from more sources-and India's selfishness will see them cast down once bigger sporting marketing come to push back against Indian bullying.

Great post. I nominate this as the POTW.

I specifically agree with the bolded part. You are right on the money.
 
I'll say this right now-the result Pakistan got in return for giving up India coming to Pakistan was pretty decent. Per the official hosting approval it's clear that both Pakistan and India are now free to chart their own course over the next few years and true cricketing neutrality has become the norm. India will not make money from Pakistan. Pakistan will not make money from India.

As far as the ICC goes, there's been a massive lack of true corporate strategy the past few years. Everything has been dictated by "how much money can we get out of India for this event". It's stupid. It shows incompetence. It's not just the champions trophy.
I could appreciate the support United States cricket has been given over the past decade or so, but even the T20 World Cup was horrifically managed. How do you take a loss on a tournament partially hosted in the States with sellout crowds for most of the fixtures? Where was the strategy to win over US businesses for corporate sponsorship? Where was the strategy to win over American fans who were not of desi descent? Instead, most US games were supported by Indian fans and Pakistani fans who went to Pakistan matches only. There was no marketing. This tournament was announced well ahead of time, so where was the push to get ESPN or some other major American broadcaster on board? If you land ESPN you land their full marketing arm who would have pushed the match extremely hard and likely gotten some strong ratings instead of it being PPV on Willow. There is nothing going on sports wise in the summer in the USA aside from NHL/NBA finals and MLB, and you could have planned around that.
Going beyond the states-where's the effort to bring China into the game? Hong Kong was such a solid associate side for so many years, now they're really getting taken over by the Chinese. So why isn't there a push to bring China into the game and bring their money into the game? They're not a small economy. They've bought into basketball and soccer, so why not cricket?If Pakistan and China are all-weather friends then this would be something huge. You've got access to a market with over a billion people in the same geographical area and you are not even trying to bring them into the game?

There is PLENTY of money to be had by growing the game. But as has been stated before much of the focus has been to squeeze as much cash as possible out of India and to a lesser extent Pakistan, England, and Australia. I am glad Pakistan finally grew some balls to push back against India as it exposed the truth-India is dependent on its broadcasters. Pakistan has, frankly, always been the country that focused on growing the game-they brought Afghanistan and Sri Lanka to the table and got them to where they could stand on their own (India only came in after the hard yards are done). If Pakistan is willing to work at this, they should continue to focus on growing the game so that you have more money from more sources-and India's selfishness will see them cast down once bigger sporting marketing come to push back against Indian bullying.


That's a load of bull.

India makes billions out of its IPL and home series broadcast deals. None of that has anything to do with pakistan.

ICC broadcast deal is by ICC. India only gets a percentage of it. Though as per current deal, $3bn of ICCs total broadcast deal of $3.2 bn comes from its sale of rights from India territory.

2026 t20wc was awarded to two countries, India and SL. They were co hosts and remain so. Pakistan is playing its matches at venues of one co host. How is pakistan gaining anything?

You really think few 1000 people packing a small ground in USA bring huge revenues?

15 years back, pakistanis on this forum were saying that Pakistan should bring the Emirati sheikhs in the game. They are friends with pakistan and will help take on India.

Today Emirates has a cricket league. All except one team is owned by Indians. And pakistanis get to play in that one team only.

Chinese won't throw millions into something just because pakistanis want so. Just like emiratis didn't.

It was India that helped bring Bangladesh and Afghanistan into ICC. Dalmiya was the guy who was instrumental in getting BD test status. BCCI gave Afghanistan international stadiums rent free for some years.

This pakistani aim of finding someone to get back at India is laughable.
 
Check the other threads where pakistan fans blamed on BCCI/ ICC.

Some of delusion fans even think all the stadiums renovation works happening at the last moments because ICC gave Pakistan $70mn for the champions trophy too late .lol

:kp
You originally said the board blamed BCCI and now you are saying it's the fans.....
 
India makes billions out of its IPL and home series broadcast deals. None of that has anything to do with pakistan.

ICC broadcast deal is by ICC. India only gets a percentage of it. Though as per current deal, $3bn of ICCs total broadcast deal of $3.2 bn comes from its sale of rights from India territory.

2026 t20wc was awarded to two countries, India and SL. They were co hosts and remain so. Pakistan is playing its matches at venues of one co host. How is pakistan gaining anything?

You really think few 1000 people packing a small ground in USA bring huge revenues?

15 years back, pakistanis on this forum were saying that Pakistan should bring the Emirati sheikhs in the game. They are friends with pakistan and will help take on India.

Today Emirates has a cricket league. All except one team is owned by Indians. And pakistanis get to play in that one team only.

Chinese won't throw millions into something just because pakistanis want so. Just like emiratis didn't.

It was India that helped bring Bangladesh and Afghanistan into ICC. Dalmiya was the guy who was instrumental in getting BD test status. BCCI gave Afghanistan international stadiums rent free for some years.

This pakistani aim of finding someone to get back at India is laughable.

If Pakistan-India really had no revenue value, they could have simply excluded it from the Champions Trophy and brought Sri Lanka in. Or they could have simply put Pakistan and India in different groups and had no match. The broadcasters, including your beloved Star Sports, warned ICC that their rights deal would not stand without that match. Instead, here are the FACTS:
1. Pakistan will not be visiting India for tournaments until after 2027.
2. Not only this, but Pakistan will not be visiting India for the 2026 T20 World Cup. India will be forced to come play them in Sri Lanka instead of hosting the game in India (Indian source here: https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cr...cc-approves-pakistan-dubai-2649526-2024-12-13)
3. A second tournament (admittedly a smaller one) was award to Pakistan.

As far as the rest...shameful statements. Emirates? A tiny country with no real population? The Emiratis are only good at hosting sports. They are not the ones to bring new revenue into the game. Sure they're sitting on billions and billions of oil money but not even the Sheikhs invested-the Emirati Cricket board had to invite Indians and one American who already owns an NFl team and Manchester United to buy their franchise teams.

Do you know who owns Chinese sports teams? The answer is pretty simple-Chinese people. It doesn't happen overnight. It's a long-term investment. Much like what was done with the US teams and Afghanistan, it's a ten year building process where Pakistani cricket leadership steadily works with the Chinese cricket leadership to spread the game, host more matches and eventually boosts their performance to the point where the Chinese cricket teams are competing with top level associates like Namibia, Scotland, USA, and similar and able to surprise a lower level team like USA did to Bangladesh and Pakistan last summer and host a seasonal franchise league. I guarantee Indians won't be able to invest-China won't let them.

As far as the T20 World Cup last year, you are utterly missing the point. It's becoming apparent to me that the only words you understand are "BCCI revenue" as if that's all that matters. Again, strategic thinking. Not one person sat down for a minute to think "OK, we're hosting this tournament in the USA. How do we get backing from businesses operating in the richest market on the planet so we can maximize our exposure?". The ICC has only ever thought about gate revenue.Pro sports teams don't make their primary income from gate revenue here. They make it from TV rights, merchandising, corporate sponsorships, and pro sports revenue. This could have been done much better and ensured a huge profit in the T20 world cup simply from smarter thinking...and thinking beyond gate revenue.

Finally, regarding Afghanistan, don't nonsense this. Afghans learned the game in Pakistan in the 80s and 90s. The ACB was founded with assistance by the PCB. The Afghan cricket team regularly played first class cricket in Pakistan in the 2000s, saw Kabir Khan and Rashid Latif coach the team, saw Afghan crickets play as visitors in Pakistan, and even played a three match LOI series vs. Pakistan A in 2011 and in the National T20 cup the same year, and finally, played their first ODI against guess who? Pakistan in 2012. Furthermore, the PCB provided further development support from 2013 to 2015 to help further develop Afghan cricket under an official MOU. All this work was done in the middle of a war that badly affected Pakistan and had cross-border terror come from Afghanistan to Pakistan.

India did nothing until Afghanistan was already a strong side deserving of Test status on its own merits. Don't try to BS me with your historical revisionism and Indian propaganda. I predicted the result of what would happen to the Champions trophy long before India opened its nakhray late last year. I told all here that the end result would be Pakistan no longer touring India. I told all here ECB would back Pakistan. You should be glad- the vile, evil Pakistan team will no longer grace Indian soil.

I'm done talking with you.
 
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If Pakistan-India really had no revenue value, they could have simply excluded it from the Champions Trophy and brought Sri Lanka in. Or they could have simply put Pakistan and India in different groups and had no match. The broadcasters, including your beloved Star Sports, warned ICC that their rights deal would not stand without that match. Instead, here are the FACTS:
1. Pakistan will not be visiting India for tournaments until after 2027.
2. Not only this, but Pakistan will not be visiting India for the 2026 T20 World Cup. India will be forced to come play them in Sri Lanka instead of hosting the game in India (Indian source here: https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cr...cc-approves-pakistan-dubai-2649526-2024-12-13)
3. A second tournament (admittedly a smaller one) was award to Pakistan.

As far as the rest...shameful statements. Emirates? A tiny country with no real population? The Emiratis are only good at hosting sports. They are not the ones to bring new revenue into the game. Sure they're sitting on billions and billions of oil money but not even the Sheikhs invested-the Emirati Cricket board had to invite Indians and one American who already owns an NFl team and Manchester United to buy their franchise teams.

Do you know who owns Chinese sports teams? The answer is pretty simple-Chinese people. It doesn't happen overnight. It's a long-term investment. Much like what was done with the US teams and Afghanistan, it's a ten year building process where Pakistani cricket leadership steadily works with the Chinese cricket leadership to spread the game, host more matches and eventually boosts their performance to the point where the Chinese cricket teams are competing with top level associates like Namibia, Scotland, USA, and similar and able to surprise a lower level team like USA did to Bangladesh and Pakistan last summer and host a seasonal franchise league. I guarantee Indians won't be able to invest-China won't let them.

As far as the T20 World Cup last year, you are utterly missing the point. It's becoming apparent to me that the only words you understand are "BCCI revenue" as if that's all that matters. Again, strategic thinking. Not one person sat down for a minute to think "OK, we're hosting this tournament in the USA. How do we get backing from businesses operating in the richest market on the planet so we can maximize our exposure?". The ICC has only ever thought about gate revenue.Pro sports teams don't make their primary income from gate revenue here. They make it from TV rights, merchandising, corporate sponsorships, and pro sports revenue. This could have been done much better and ensured a huge profit in the T20 world cup simply from smarter thinking...and thinking beyond gate revenue.

Finally, regarding Afghanistan, don't nonsense this. Afghans learned the game in Pakistan in the 80s and 90s. The ACB was founded with assistance by the PCB. The Afghan cricket team regularly played first class cricket in Pakistan in the 2000s, saw Kabir Khan and Rashid Latif coach the team, saw Afghan crickets play as visitors in Pakistan, and even played a three match LOI series vs. Pakistan A in 2011 and in the National T20 cup the same year, and finally, played their first ODI against guess who? Pakistan in 2012. Furthermore, the PCB provided further development support from 2013 to 2015 to help further develop Afghan cricket under an official MOU. All this work was done in the middle of a war that badly affected Pakistan and had cross-border terror come from Afghanistan to Pakistan.

India did nothing until Afghanistan was already a strong side deserving of Test status on its own merits. Don't try to BS me with your historical revisionism and Indian propaganda. I predicted the result of what would happen to the Champions trophy long before India opened its nakhray late last year. I told all here that the end result would be Pakistan no longer touring India. I told all here ECB would back Pakistan. You should be glad- the vile, evil Pakistan team will no longer grace Indian soil.

I'm done talking with you.

The biggest cricket broadcast deal in the world is IPL. There are no pakistanis there. Then there is the Indian home series deal. Again no pakistani involvement. BCCI makes close to 7bn on these deals in 5 years. So BCCI isn't dependent on Pakistan.

ICC cannot just replace one team with another. There are legal ramifications. Unless that team steps aside.

1. No schedule says pakistan was even supposed to visit India.

2.2026 T20WC schedule isn't even out. No one even knows if such a match is scheduled to take place.

3. For which India again won't be visiting Pakistan and matches will be held elsewhere.

4. Even if i take your view to be true

Pakistan has lost the hosting rights of 5 CT 2025 matches.

India at worst will lose hosting of one match.


You know what is shameful, a country of 200mn plus needing to hang to the court tails of Chinese or Emiratis or someone else to be relevant in cricket.

Can you guys do anything yourself?

I guarantee you, Chinese won't be spending billions on a game they hardly play, just to make pakistanis happy.

You don't have any idea about ICC revenue. ICCs biggest revenue is from its broadcast deal. Then sponsors. ICC doesn't make much revenue via gate receipts. You need to read up.

Its true that Afghan refugees learnt the game in Pakistan. But Pakistan was in no position to host international cricket for more than 10 years. That was the crucial phase of Afghanistan because Afghanistan achieved associate status in 2013. They needed a place to host matches. Bcci gave them that. Afghan players would live in India and use Indian facilities. Host matches. All free

I will tell you what. Pakistan team will again visit India for the next CT.

ECB has almost stopped giving NoCs for PSL, that's how much they back Pakistan.

And you will at that time try to find another country, who will throw billions on a sport they don't play just to make you happy. 🤣
 
The ICC has now become nothing more than a dummy council. Jay Shah is going to turn it into a totally political council in the future—mark my words. Abhi to party shuru hoi hai
 
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