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A simple plea to our Indian friends and especially their government to let go their obsession with Pakistan by spending million even billions on arm deals. Pakistan is a country already mired in a plethora of issues with electricity and energy shortages some of the most glaring problems.

So as a well wisher of some of my Indian friends, I would advise them to urge their government to focus on their own issues rather than wasting time over affairs in Pakistan. Besides a country with a huge population and low per capita GDP, it would be wise to spend money on the populace rather than buying some unreliable toys that get destroyed.

PS: It's a light hearted thread with some sane advice for neighbors
 
Unless cooler heads prevail within India, a hot war with Pakistan, China, and even Bangladesh is no longer a question of if, only when. And under any outcome, India stands to be the biggest loser. No amount of economic chest thumping or fourth largest economy slogans will shield it from the harsh reality of multi front isolation and military overreach.
 
One more thing, Pakistan/ india both need to forget about taking the entire kashmir. Jo jiske pass hai abhi usi mein khush raho or LOC kp permanent border bana do.

:kp
 
One more thing, Pakistan/ india both need to forget about taking the entire kashmir. Jo jiske pass hai abhi usi mein khush raho or LOC kp permanent border bana do.

:kp
Why not respect the democratic right of Kashmiri Muslims
 
Why not respect the democratic right of Kashmiri Muslims
Kashmir is fine and all the progress and development happening in Jammu and Kashmir . Maybe Pakistan should look at democratic rights of baloch people's. That's May help for them to solved Balochistan problem.

:kp
 
Unless cooler heads prevail within India, a hot war with Pakistan, China, and even Bangladesh is no longer a question of if, only when. And under any outcome, India stands to be the biggest loser. No amount of economic chest thumping or fourth largest economy slogans will shield it from the harsh reality of multi front isolation and military overreach.

Pakistan, China, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, and Maldives are experiencing what Europe experienced during WW2.

Sanghis are the Nazis of modern day subcontinent. 90% of the issues in subcontinent revolve around India.

Good news is sanghis are not militarily competent like the Nazis were. So, if they try any military adventure, they may get their backside kicked by China and its allies (including Pakistan). India is surrounded; they have no military ally. :inti
 
A simple plea to our Indian friends and especially their government to let go their obsession with Pakistan by spending million even billions on arm deals. Pakistan is a country already mired in a plethora of issues with electricity and energy shortages some of the most glaring problems.

So as a well wisher of some of my Indian friends, I would advise them to urge their government to focus on their own issues rather than wasting time over affairs in Pakistan. Besides a country with a huge population and low per capita GDP, it would be wise to spend money on the populace rather than buying some unreliable toys that get destroyed.

PS: It's a light hearted thread with some sane advice for neighbors
Pakistan lives rent free in the heads of Indians just like Islam lives rent free in the head of @Farhan The Man
 
We are ready for democracy for all...but are you too in Kashmir?? Atleast for the sake of your largest sham democracy
Kashmir is fine and all the progress and development happening in Jammu and Kashmir . Maybe Pakistan should look at democratic rights of baloch people's. That's May help for them to solved Balochistan problem.

:kp
 
A simple plea to our Indian friends and especially their government to let go their obsession with Pakistan by spending million even billions on arm deals. Pakistan is a country already mired in a plethora of issues with electricity and energy shortages some of the most glaring problems.

So as a well wisher of some of my Indian friends, I would advise them to urge their government to focus on their own issues rather than wasting time over affairs in Pakistan. Besides a country with a huge population and low per capita GDP, it would be wise to spend money on the populace rather than buying some unreliable toys that get destroyed.

PS: It's a light hearted thread with some sane advice for neighbors

I appreciate the intention behind your thread and the sincerity of your motives. I’ve often said that one of Pakistani people’s commendable traits is their capacity for reflection and eventual acknowledgment of mistakes. This introspective quality is something to be proud of. Over the years be it in 1971, 1999, 2008, or now Pakistanis have demonstrated an ability to confront hard truths, and I believe it won’t be long before the same happens again.

Unfortunately, your true leader remains imprisoned, while a failed marshal clings to power, holding your country’s future hostage for personal gain. But regardless of internal politics, larger forces have now been set in motion and sadly you can’t control what’s gotten out of hands now.

India is momentum nation. We go through these weird phases of complacency when we absolutely forget about regional threats but all it takes is a situation like this last month when the entire nation wakes up from sleep and locks in on a collective goal. Look at the speed af which Indians now revamping and reimagining its entire defense sector. All the dormant projects are now red hot topics and aggressive timelines are being set now to complete them in record time. This is a nation on war footing. A nation which produced a world class Covid vaccine in months cannot be stopped easily.

To be clear, I don’t place the blame entirely on Pakistan. You too are victims caught in the crossfire of global geopolitical strategies and manipulated by your own military establishment.

India is now in a state of heightened readiness. I’ve said before, and I’ll repeat: while war is never something to glorify, India is perhaps the most mentally prepared and brave nation when it comes to conflict. This readiness is not rooted in aggression but in historical resilience. It’s 5000 years legacy of fighting wars with forces that came and were ended on this land itself. We are a proud civilisation.

When the ceasefire was announced, many who usually support the government expressed frustration, believing we should have continued. That’s a reflection of how unified and determined the nation is right now. This message is not just directed at Pakistan but also at those little cowards in China who believe they can perpetually act through proxies. That era is ending. India is prepared—strategically and morally to respond directly and decisively. If we can hit Pakistan beyond international borders we can and we absolutely will hit China beyond international borders if and when the day comes that absolutely have to. Make no mistake about it. Momentum is a dangerous things and times are changing fast and those Chinese toys simply cannot intercept our daggers after daggers of mass destruction.

To the people of Pakistan, this is not about you now. This is now beyond Kashmir, India vs Pakistan. Our eyes are set on Beijing. Locked-in.

Despite the missteps, your role in this moment of awakening for India cannot be ignored though. In a way, you’ve done us a service by rekindling a fire that had grown dim. It’s unfortunate it had to come to this, but we’ve accepted the reality. We’re no longer governed by fear, diplomacy, or delay. If mutual destruction is the cost, so be it. The path we are on is clear: China must be confronted, and it’s India that will lead the way.

Jai Hind! 🇮🇳 💪🏻
 
Unless cooler heads prevail within India, a hot war with Pakistan, China, and even Bangladesh is no longer a question of if, only when. And under any outcome, India stands to be the biggest loser. No amount of economic chest thumping or fourth largest economy slogans will shield it from the harsh reality of multi front isolation and military overreach.

We will see about that 🤣
 
Our confrontation with China in the nearest future is inevitable.

Pakistan is well advised to sit this one out. You have no business in this and we do not want to use it as an excuse to inflict damages on you.

Same message for Bangladesh. We will spare you because we helped in your creation.

Let India & China go at it.
Both are big nations and don’t need anyone’s help.
 
Indians are mentally disturbed people. They took a beating asked for ceasefire and then did parades. You cannot reason with them. It's why they are pariah in the region. From Maldives to China, from Pakistan to Bangladesh all countries are united against India.

They will continue to walk around barefoot amongst cows and dirt while counting the digits on their imaginary economy.
 
Let's hope not.

Me too.
Bangladesh and Pakistan don’t need to suffer in this. It wasn’t funny in 1971 when we arrived and just pierced you in half like it was a video game move and it won’t be funny anywhere in the future if God forbid you want to put us against Bangladesh lol. At least Pakistan has come a long way as a military force. You have got to be a sadist if you want to see how putting Bangladesh against us goes in the real world. Even for us it won’t be funny.
 
Apparently pakistan also lives on in minds of pakistanis with western passports.

Seriously. Keep out.

Stay put in. We are better off.
Muslims all over the world care about Pakistan and that will never change as it is an issue of Islam which although you have "left" still lives rent free in your head.

Never lived in Bradford but is UAE (where you live) really better then Bradford? Also, thousands of Muslims (of Pakistan origin) are born in Bradford) while you are nothing but an Indian squatter in UAE.

"11 years of Madrasah" education has clearly not worked.
 
Muslims all over the world care about Pakistan and that will never change as it is an issue of Islam which although you have "left" still lives rent free in your head.

Never lived in Bradford but is UAE (where you live) really better then Bradford? Also, thousands of Muslims (of Pakistan origin) are born in Bradford) while you are nothing but an Indian squatter in UAE.

"11 years of Madrasah" education has clearly not worked.
Sorry bro correct it, DUBAI call center.....
 
It's hard to ignore a country that is known as world's premier hub of terrorism. It's a curse that India must bear. #toxic-neighbour.
 
Last refuge is religion.

Challenge accepted. From non-citizens of pakistan.

Bring it on. I say.

@Farhan The Man

What I said is highlighted,
below.

Muslims all over the world care about Pakistan and that will never change as it is an issue of Islam which although you have "left" still lives rent free in your head.

Never lived in Bradford but is UAE (where you live) really better then Bradford? Also, thousands of Muslims (of Pakistan origin) are born in Bradford) while you are nothing but an Indian squatter in UAE.

"11 years of Madrasah" education has clearly not worked.

I am asserting two things here:
  1. Muslims all over the world support Pakistan (as opposed to India)
  2. It is an issue of Islam (as in supporting Muslims at war over non-Muslims)
The intellectual deficiency coupled with Academic inadequacy which you suffer despite making claims of "11 years of Madrasah" education and with Islam living rent free in your head as led you to a totally different set of conclusions.

Carry on man, I pity your mental state.
 
One more thing, Pakistan/ india both need to forget about taking the entire kashmir. Jo jiske pass hai abhi usi mein khush raho or LOC kp permanent border bana do.

:kp
Finally a sane suggestion from you.

But you guys ans your media also need to stop poking nose in Balochistan.
 
These guys still think they’re invincible but are incapable.
One more thing, Pakistan/ india both need to forget about taking the entire kashmir. Jo jiske pass hai abhi usi mein khush raho or LOC kp permanent border bana do.

:kp
Nobody wants to take it, do you not understand the will of the people in Kashmir and that you occupy it? You’ll always have problems there, you aren’t capable of deterring Pakistan or the locals there clearly.

Truthfully, I do hope this round of violence does deter the Pakistani establishment from doing anything further in Kashmir and focus on development and taking people out of poverty in the region.

But not with Modi, if there is a hot war in the region it will be his fault.
 
What a weird request to make to these deaf, blind, and deeply hung over Sanghis in the False narrative of being a Shupa Powa. There is NOTHING that will make sense to them until all will be withered away in smoke. A full show of ignorance is about to get underway as South Asia is about to get lit up just because they are too stupid to understand that they are being played by powerful.
 
It’s great to see Pakistanis, both at home and abroad, standing up to Bhakths and dismantling their hollow narratives. Even better when they shut down those who claim deep knowledge of Islam but can’t grasp a single surah of the Qur’an. And if your only validation comes from someone who openly supports human slaughter, well, there’s really nothing left to discuss. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
 
Finally a sane suggestion from you.

But you guys ans your media also need to stop poking nose in Balochistan.
Your entire nation from past 75 year think kashmir is pakistan jugular vein and living the slogan of Kashmir Banega pakistan. Lol

Pakistan started most of the war with india on Kashmir so first pakistan need to realised that kashmir is not pakistan jugular vein but Indus water treaty.

IF pakistan forget about Kashmir or stop sending Jihadi/ terrorist in Kashmir we will not even think about pakistan/ Balochistan.

As i said earlier india ambitions are big and pakistan is a failed nation's so we have nothing to do with Pakistan .

:kp
 
It’s great to see Pakistanis, both at home and abroad, standing up to Bhakths and dismantling their hollow narratives. Even better when they shut down those who claim deep knowledge of Islam but can’t grasp a single surah of the Qur’an. And if your only validation comes from someone who openly supports human slaughter, well, there’s really nothing left to discuss. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

Sanghis are on the backfoot ever since their country lost the recent war (including losing 6 jets). :qdkcheeky
 
Yesterday Nigeria caught pakistani terrorists training their terrorists(u know from which religion). Pak is distributing the knowledge to their ummah.they are the most delusional bunch to treat themselves as victims

Few months ago Pakistan based terrorists had a raily with Hamas in the Pakistan occupied Kashmir . Pehhlgam attacks was similar to hamas ideology . Connect the dots .

:kp
 
There was no electricity for 2 days straight here in my area... We have a 1100MW generation from Mangla dam, and the people around here are getting such zalalat Electricity department.

Their system has been as old as dinosaurs. No upgrade whatsoever.

I think India should not waste their time on Pakistan atm. Why waste time and money and missiles here when Pakistan is slowly going back to Stone Age.

All this talk about lower inflation and economic growth is unseen on ground.
 
There was no electricity for 2 days straight here in my area... We have a 1100MW generation from Mangla dam, and the people around here are getting such zalalat Electricity department.

Their system has been as old as dinosaurs. No upgrade whatsoever.

I think India should not waste their time on Pakistan atm. Why waste time and money and missiles here when Pakistan is slowly going back to Stone Age.

All this talk about lower inflation and economic growth is unseen on ground.
Use solar system bro. Best way to avoid The loadshedding. :kp
 
STAY ON TOPIC AND SEE THE OPENING POST AGAIN FOR REFERENCE.

STOP MAKING IT ANOTHER WAR THREAD AND DO CHEST THUMPING HERE...

NO RELIGION STUFF HERE ALSO..
 
A simple plea to our Indian friends and especially their government to let go their obsession with Pakistan by spending million even billions on arm deals. Pakistan is a country already mired in a plethora of issues with electricity and energy shortages some of the most glaring problems.

So as a well wisher of some of my Indian friends, I would advise them to urge their government to focus on their own issues rather than wasting time over affairs in Pakistan. Besides a country with a huge population and low per capita GDP, it would be wise to spend money on the populace rather than buying some unreliable toys that get destroyed.

PS: It's a light hearted thread with some sane advice for neighbors
Don't think India spends money to counter Pakistan..India spends money to dissuade China .but both are mature countries and use diplomacy alliance and economy to control each other with some skirmishes....so when India is attacked by terrorists..those toys get used
 
Seriously do you wants more jihadi by taking POK ? :kp

The entire Kashmir is historically Sanatani and belongs to us.

No there is no place for any Jihadi in our country and we will get rid off them.When things were really bad in Kashmir at the height of Islamic terrorism some people in India even said let go J&K we don't want this and all the problems associated with it. We stuck to it however and got rid off terrorism to a great extent. Now these incidents are considered exceptions.

Soon we will cleanse PoK from terrorism and bring them in the fold.

Its not for individuals to decide to let go off national claims.

We have many corrections to make be in PoK, Aksai Chin, Siliguri corridor, Tibet etc. They all will happen at their appropriate time. There is no stopping us.
 
There was no electricity for 2 days straight here in my area... We have a 1100MW generation from Mangla dam, and the people around here are getting such zalalat Electricity department.

Their system has been as old as dinosaurs. No upgrade whatsoever.

I think India should not waste their time on Pakistan atm. Why waste time and money and missiles here when Pakistan is slowly going back to Stone Age.

All this talk about lower inflation and economic growth is unseen on ground.

That's really unfortunate.
Its absolutely stupid of Pakistan dictatorship to bring their nation to this just to keep their control on the nation.
 
The entire Kashmir is historically Sanatani and belongs to us.

No there is no place for any Jihadi in our country and we will get rid off them.When things were really bad in Kashmir at the height of Islamic terrorism some people in India even said let go J&K we don't want this and all the problems associated with it. We stuck to it however and got rid off terrorism to a great extent. Now these incidents are considered exceptions.

Soon we will cleanse PoK from terrorism and bring them in the fold.

Its not for individuals to decide to let go off national claims.

We have many corrections to make be in PoK, Aksai Chin, Siliguri corridor, Tibet etc. They all will happen at their appropriate time. There is no stopping us.
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Does the sanatani claim include Africa? BJP toad logic
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The entire Kashmir is historically Sanatani and belongs to us.

No there is no place for any Jihadi in our country and we will get rid off them.When things were really bad in Kashmir at the height of Islamic terrorism some people in India even said let go J&K we don't want this and all the problems associated with it. We stuck to it however and got rid off terrorism to a great extent. Now these incidents are considered exceptions.

Soon we will cleanse PoK from terrorism and bring them in the fold.

Its not for individuals to decide to let go off national claims.

We have many corrections to make be in PoK, Aksai Chin, Siliguri corridor, Tibet etc. They all will happen at their appropriate time. There is no stopping us.
Shant Bhai none of this will happen and is not worth fighting for and derailing our economic growth and fight against poverty ..we are a poor country with large disparity ..pollution lack of basic healthcare cleanliness over population education jobs infrastructure...we should focus on improving that and protecting our people from the scourge of terrorism..land grab and bringing people under our fold..that's not our goal
 
When thousands are being deported from the US, in chains, shackled, and returning back to homeland in disgrace as criminals, what else will they do? Vent out frustration. And Pakistan is the logical easy target. They're also messing around with other smaller countries like small-minded midgets. Won't mess with China though because the slap-back will hurt.

India is in a peculiar position. It wants to be the bully but can't. 7 times bigger than rest of the sub-continent combined but can't do zilch in that space. It's embarrassing and that's making the common folk frustrated and mentally disturbed.
 
When thousands are being deported from the US, in chains, shackled, and returning back to homeland in disgrace as criminals, what else will they do? Vent out frustration. And Pakistan is the logical easy target. They're also messing around with other smaller countries like small-minded midgets. Won't mess with China though because the slap-back will hurt.

India is in a peculiar position. It wants to be the bully but can't. 7 times bigger than rest of the sub-continent combined but can't do zilch in that space. It's embarrassing and that's making the common folk frustrated and mentally disturbed.
Thousands of Pakistani people's doing illegal beggars activities across the globe. They are / were deported .

Anyway Pakistan itself is begging country so I'm not surprised. .

As once your PM Said " beggars can't be choosers"

Latest news for you - Nigeria has arrested four Pakistani nationals accusing them of training cadres of Jihadist terrorist group Boko Haram.

:kp
 
Indians are inherently obsessed with Pakistan. They hate Pakistan yet spend time on a Pakistani forum. They make movies about Pakistan. They are a nation of pathetic people.

Or just a third world nation who's people can only feel uplifted by pointing at a neighbour perceived as doing worse than them. Is it any wonder that a political party based around nothing more than ethnic and religious strife is the most popular in the last generation? These people are truly lost and looking for some form of validation.
 
Thousands of Pakistani people's doing illegal beggars activities across the globe. They are / were deported .

Anyway Pakistan itself is begging country so I'm not surprised. .

As once your PM Said " beggars can't be choosers"

Latest news for you - Nigeria has arrested four Pakistani nationals accusing them of training cadres of Jihadist terrorist group Boko Haram.

:kp
I think terrorist group is iswap( Islamic state of west Africa province )just like Isis.its parent organisation is boko haram.

 
Please stop it.

You do realise the demography of PoK has been completely altered ? Millions of punjabi muslims have been relocated by military junta from their mainland to Kashmir to change the population there; the actual Kashmiris of that region have left and live in the UK, many of them.

PoK is a total waste of time for any Indian govt to focus on.
 
You do realise the demography of PoK has been completely altered ? Millions of punjabi muslims have been relocated by military junta from their mainland to Kashmir to change the population there; the actual Kashmiris of that region have left and live in the UK, many of them.

PoK is a total waste of time for any Indian govt to focus on.

Nothing matters.

The only thing that matters is that entire Kashmir is an integral part of India and at some point in the future it will have to merge with India. Thats our official national stand and cannot be changed for personal opinions of anyone.
 
Nothing matters.

The only thing that matters is that entire Kashmir is an integral part of India and at some point in the future it will have to merge with India. Thats our official national stand and cannot be changed for personal opinions of anyone.
We'll give you a bigger chitrol like abhinandan. AJK is an extension of potohar
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Nothing matters.

The only thing that matters is that entire Kashmir is an integral part of India and at some point in the future it will have to merge with India. Thats our official national stand and cannot be changed for personal opinions of anyone.

Keep dreaming. That ship has sailed.

I am more interested in seeing Pakistan placed back on the FATF blacklist. However that won't happen until India fully joins the USA led order as an actual ally. Staying neutral or being a friend of Russia is not an option anymore.
 
Keep dreaming. That ship has sailed.

I am more interested in seeing Pakistan placed back on the FATF blacklist. However that won't happen until India fully joins the USA led order as an actual ally. Staying neutral or being a friend of Russia is not an option anymore.
Never trust the USA . Period :kp
 
Our confrontation with China in the nearest future is inevitable.

It will be just skirmishes nothing more, India and China trade is 120 billion annually and growing, both are founding members of the BRICs. They will never get into a full on conflict.

The above points are what Pakistanis are failing to realise, you can't blame them they don't know how an economy/trade etc works, their experience is at going to IMF for bail outs, how many times now ? 24?.

However what China will do is try and cause nuisance for India using their lapdog Pakistan and the new puppy they are raising Bangladesh.. Both countries are full of Islamic converts so naturally they do not need any motivation to self destruct and China will happily add fuel to the fire.
 
This advice will fall on deaf ears because careers are made and personalities are glorified in India over anti-Pakistani rhetoric and hate.

-- and it is the same in Pakistan as well. But the difference is in Pakistan its the military junta that does it and in India its the "democratically elected leaders" who are doing it.
 
I am more interested in seeing Pakistan placed back on the FATF blacklist. However that won't happen until India fully joins the USA led order as an actual ally. Staying neutral or being a friend of Russia is not an option anymore.

Pakistan will never get blacklisted, the world cannot afford Pakistan to go rogue because they have a nuclear bomb.

Imagine a world where suddenly there are 100s of nuclear proliferators like AQ KHAN coming out of the woodworks. Just the fact that they have that bomb is enough to keep them out of the black list. World will not, cannot allow Pakistan to go full rogue. All Indian governments be it congress, BJP all know this very well, the protest they put on are all just for show, to show its citizens they are putting pressure to get Pakistan in the Blacklist fully knowing it is all an act and that Pak will never be on the blacklist...

Only solution out of this mess for Pakistan and the rest of the world is, if their citizens take it to the streets against their military, when I say citizens I am talking about the Pakistanis in Pakistan not the useless Britstani keyboard warriors you see here. Pakistani citizens have to take the fight to the street, take their country back, democracy must be restored, they need to have a country that has a military rather a military that owns a country..
 
Have you seen pictures of 93000 Pakistan soldier surrendered 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

:kp
That's Bangladesh, not BJP territory. This is a more pertinent, up to date and relevant chitrol on a downed bharatoad, that too whilst brandishing a pistol and shrieking 'jai hind'. He was later served Pakistans fantastic danedhar tea
 
Keep dreaming. That ship has sailed.

I am more interested in seeing Pakistan placed back on the FATF blacklist. However that won't happen until India fully joins the USA led order as an actual ally. Staying neutral or being a friend of Russia is not an option anymore.
Keep dreaming - Only India is whining about that and as long as they are conducting assassinations in Canada, UK and US of Sikh activists, nobody is going to take this seriously. Not to mention the stuff they are responsible for in Balochistan.

India has made this a purely Pakistan vs India deal and the rest of the world does not want any part of it as you can clearly see. The only country remotely interested is China and you know who they will support.

The FATF crap is only for western nations. third world conflicts dont matter to them.
 
Pakistan will never get blacklisted, the world cannot afford Pakistan to go rogue because they have a nuclear bomb.

Imagine a world where suddenly there are 100s of nuclear proliferators like AQ KHAN coming out of the woodworks. Just the fact that they have that bomb is enough to keep them out of the black list. World will not, cannot allow Pakistan to go full rogue. All Indian governments be it congress, BJP all know this very well, the protest they put on are all just for show, to show its citizens they are putting pressure to get Pakistan in the Blacklist fully knowing it is all an act and that Pak will never be on the blacklist...

Only solution out of this mess for Pakistan and the rest of the world is, if their citizens take it to the streets against their military, when I say citizens I am talking about the Pakistanis in Pakistan not the useless Britstani keyboard warriors you see here. Pakistani citizens have to take the fight to the street, take their country back, democracy must be restored, they need to have a country that has a military rather a military that owns a country..
Noble thoughts, and I do agree that the nation needs to take the country back from an establishment that is always going to favor war with India (what else would you expect from a military establishment).
With that being said, while you are so gracious in offering a path forward to your neighbors, what words of wisdom will you offer your countrymen who are equally war mongering and full of hatred towards their neighbor even with a democratic "civilian" leadership in place that has been equally, in fact even more war-mongering, than the Pakistani establishment?
 
Noble thoughts, and I do agree that the nation needs to take the country back from an establishment that is always going to favor war with India (what else would you expect from a military establishment).
With that being said, while you are so gracious in offering a path forward to your neighbors, what words of wisdom will you offer your countrymen who are equally war mongering and full of hatred towards their neighbor even with a democratic "civilian" leadership in place that has been equally, in fact even more war-mongering, than the Pakistani establishment?

What other Indians say is out of my control, I was never in favour of a military conflict as my previous posts before the conflict would show...
 
What other Indians say is out of my control, I was never in favour of a military conflict as my previous posts before the conflict would show...
Do you acknowledge that hate and war mongering on the Indian side has become an essential part of Indian politics though?

Just as the absence of anti India sentiment can result in an existential crisis for the Pakistani establishment, do you agree the Indian counterparts are leveraging and encouraging similar public sentiment to support and maintain their political agenda?
 
The FATF crap is only for western nations. third world conflicts dont matter to them.

Why was Pakistan put on the FATF grey list three times ?

i.e from 2008 to 2009, 2012 to 2015 and 2018 to 2022 (as per Google)
 
do you agree the Indian counterparts are leveraging and encouraging similar public sentiment to support and maintain their political agenda?

Ofcourse there is political gain to a degree lesser for India by using their neighbour.

However sending terrorists to India and causing Pahalgham type attacks is vindicating the Indian governments' stance against Pakistan for a lot of their citizens.

One of the ppl killed in Pahalgham was a husband of my cousin's colleague, my cousin was a hardcore communists who hated BJP, however now she has changed her stance and was in support of military action against Pakistan fully backing the Modi government.

You can't cause a major terror incident and then expect people not react to it, that was the norm usually during the Congress government's time but things have now changed, for example: after the Mumbai attacks which Pakistan as usual denied, Monmohan singh just released a few doves in a guesture of peace and love after such a horrific terror incident. The pseudo secularism and leftist attitude is dying in India at an alarming rate, nationalism and pride is rising....
 
Pakistan will never get blacklisted, the world cannot afford Pakistan to go rogue because they have a nuclear bomb.

Imagine a world where suddenly there are 100s of nuclear proliferators like AQ KHAN coming out of the woodworks. Just the fact that they have that bomb is enough to keep them out of the black list. World will not, cannot allow Pakistan to go full rogue. All Indian governments be it congress, BJP all know this very well, the protest they put on are all just for show, to show its citizens they are putting pressure to get Pakistan in the Blacklist fully knowing it is all an act and that Pak will never be on the blacklist...

Pakistan is not going to go rogue, that's just a bluff they try to pull off every now and then, nor they do have the courage for that. The West will treat them like Iran and saction them to smithereens if they offer nuclear weapons on the black market.

Only solution out of this mess for Pakistan and the rest of the world is, if their citizens take it to the streets against their military, when I say citizens I am talking about the Pakistanis in Pakistan not the useless Britstani keyboard warriors you see here. Pakistani citizens have to take the fight to the street, take their country back, democracy must be restored, they need to have a country that has a military rather a military that owns a country..

That's the funniest thing I've heard. This is a country that meekly accepted mutiple military coups in 70 years of their existence. The awaam of Pakistan simply don't have the bravery for engaging in a people's revolution. Too much fear in the DNA.
 
Why was Pakistan put on the FATF grey list three times ?

i.e from 2008 to 2009, 2012 to 2015 and 2018 to 2022 (as per Google)
Don't think you understood what I was trying to say. The FATF stuff is a big deal for the western world post 9/11, IMF world bank are involved and has a lot to do with money laundering and terror financing in the western world.

Nobody cares about what happens in India and Pakistan (or kashmiri region) when it comes to FATF. IMF was approving Pakistan for a massive bailout while you guys were crying hoarse over pakistan's involvement in Pahalgam.

Thats the difference
 
Don't think you understood what I was trying to say. The FATF stuff is a big deal for the western world post 9/11, IMF world bank are involved and has a lot to do with money laundering and terror financing in the western world.

Nobody cares about what happens in India and Pakistan (or kashmiri region) when it comes to FATF. IMF was approving Pakistan for a massive bailout while you guys were crying hoarse over pakistan's involvement in Pahalgam.

Thats the difference

That's great. But you didn't answer my question.
 
Ofcourse there is political gain to a degree lesser for India by using their neighbour.

However sending terrorists to India and causing Pahalgham type attacks is vindicating the Indian governments' stance against Pakistan for a lot of their citizens.

One of the ppl killed in Pahalgham was a husband of my cousin's colleague, my cousin was a hardcore communists who hated BJP, however now she has changed her stance and was in support of military action against Pakistan fully backing the Modi government.

You can't cause a major terror incident and then expect people not react to it, that was the norm usually during the Congress government's time but things have now changed, for example: after the Mumbai attacks which Pakistan as usual denied, Monmohan singh just released a few doves in a guesture of peace and love after such a horrific terror incident. The pseudo secularism and leftist attitude is dying in India at an alarming rate, nationalism and pride is rising....
India is also conducting similar operations in Balochistan.

Pakistan does a pretty bad job of bringing it up and crying and whining about it like India does over Kashmir. But it does not mean that India has not been equally guilty of such tactics not just in Balochistan but more recently against Sikh activists in the western world as well.
 
That's the funniest thing I've heard. This is a country that meekly accepted mutiple military coups in 70 years of their existence. The awaam of Pakistan simply don't have the bravery for engaging in a people's revolution. Too much fear in the DNA.

If they don't have the courage to take thier country back then their fate is sealed no coming back. Game over.
 
India is also conducting similar operations in Balochistan.

Pakistan does a pretty bad job of bringing it up and crying and whining about it like India does over Kashmir. But it does not mean that India has not been equally guilty of such tactics not just in Balochistan but more recently against Sikh activists in the western world as well.

I don't think you realise how deeply the Americans are involved in Balochistan, no way will they want Chinese operating there.. Causing chaos and mayhem in Balochistan is a must for the CIA.
 
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