Did India achieve a moral victory despite losing the first T20I to Australia?

[Bhaijaan]

According to some posters India were a better team today and clearly outperformed Australia.

The DL system is strange and screwed India.

Nonetheless a blessing in disguise and a clear moral victory.

 

[Sarwar89]

How ironic.
Both india and pakistan have lost by 4 runs in space of 3 days by Aus/Kiwi neighbours.

 

[ARK Rafay]

India screwed themselves. Pant with that shot. Pandya putting the pressure and getting out.

 

[Mp812]

How ironic.
Both india and pakistan have lost by 4 runs in space of 3 days by Aus/Kiwi neighbours.

One lost a TEST match and other a T20.

 

[Itachi]

Nope. We don't need moral victory. We are not Pakistan.

 

[Sarwar89]

One lost a TEST match and other a T20.

Bottom line is both lost by 4 runs.

 

[Major]

Bottom line is both lost by 4 runs.

Tests matter more.

T20 wins or losses mean nothing

 

[latecut]

Moral wins are for those who are starved of real victories. No moral victories for India. They lost the match. That is all.

 

[PakPremi]

I thought T20 do not mean anything why another thread for meaningless T20?

 

[Itachi]

I thought T20 do not mean anything why another thread for meaningless T20?

F_c bhai always greeted Pak team on their T20 wins. Safe to say, he maintains the same philosophy across different teams.

 

[Sarwar89]

One lost a TEST match and other a T20.

Tests matter more.

T20 wins or losses mean nothing

Then why in 2007 entire pakistan was sad after misbah’s scoop in meaningless t20 ?.

Every match matters mate.

 

[Major]

Then why in 2007 entire pakistan was sad after misbah’s scoop in meaningless t20 ?.

Every match matters mate.

bro, there is a difference between a t20 match and a world t20 final..

Every match does not matter....

 

[the_outsider]

Don't need any moral victories. We lost but we lost with respect. Batsmen did well (barring that stupid shot from Pant).

However, India should be very disappointed with their fielding effort. Their standards are much higher than what was on display tonight.

 

[Rana]

Nope. We don't need moral victory. We are not Pakistan.

You need it more, Pakistan are unbeaten in T20s for a long time

 

[the_outsider]

You need it more, Pakistan are unbeaten in T20s for a long time

So is India. Unbeaten in the last 11 series (10 wins and 1 draw).

 

[Rana]

Try winning this series and we can talk

 

[Chokli]

Tests matter more.

T20 wins or losses mean nothing

Says who?

Every International match matters.

 

[Major]

Says who?

Every International match matters.

nope they dont

certain matches matter and t20 itself dont matter, unless its a tournament

example:

Sri Lanka held the score for the highest odi total for ten years(2006-2010) and yet people dont remember that.

However people did remember that SA vs Australia 438

 

[Chokli]

nope they dont

certain matches matter and t20 itself dont matter, unless its a tournament

example:

Sri Lanka held the score for the highest odi total for ten years(2006-2010) and yet people dont remember that.

However people did remember that SA vs Australia 438

Yup they do.

T20s bring more viewers than Test matches.

That's false, people did remember that.

 

[gazza619]

Yeah I can see India white washing Australia on moral grounds this season.

On a serious note I think this was India’s best chance to win a game on this tour. I doubt Australia will let them come anywhere near victory again.

 

[Major]

Yup they do.

T20s bring more viewers than Test matches.

That's false, people did remember that.

t20 could bring more views, but the results dont mean zilch.

people will take a team dominating in test or odi any day. Dominating in t20, well no one really cares.

 

[the_outsider]

t20 could bring more views, but the results dont mean zilch.

people will take a team dominating in test or odi any day. Dominating only in t20, well no one really cares.

Fixed.

 

[Chokli]

t20 could bring more views, but the results dont mean zilch.

people will take a team dominating in test or odi any day. Dominating in t20, well no one really cares.

But if more people are watching T20s then that means more people care.

If no one watches Tests and there are hardly any people at the ground, how can those matches mean anything

 

[rhony]

t20 could bring more views, but the results dont mean zilch.

people will take a team dominating in test or odi any day. Dominating in t20, well no one really cares.

Though i agree with you on the importance of winning in other formats compared to T20s, this game has more significance than a mere T20. Aussies were just smashed by the Saffers and were able to defeat a full strength Indian team. This is going to set the tone for the rest of the series. India and Kohli are under pressure for the first time in months.

 

[the_outsider]

Yeah I can see India white washing Australia on moral grounds this season.

On a serious note I think this was India’s best chance to win a game on this tour. I doubt Australia will let them come anywhere near victory again.

Interesting thought.

And I'm sure it's coming from an unbiased place.

Even though it goes against all expert opinions and historical data about the Gabba being the sternest challenge for India.

 

[Major]

But if more people are watching T20s then that means more people care.

If no one watches Tests and there are hardly any people at the ground, how can those matches mean anything

people only watch it because its fast and more sixes and fours.

Even the Hong Kong Sixes have a good turn up, but that dosent mean its results are relevant.

test wins could be bragged, t20 wins arn't bragged(unless its a world t20)

 

[the_outsider]

people only watch it because its fast and more sixes and fours.

Even the Hong Kong Sixes have a good turn up, but that dosent mean its results are relevant.

test wins could be bragged, t20 wins arn't bragged(unless its a world t20)

Don't be so sure.

You need it more, Pakistan are unbeaten in T20s for a long time

 

[Rana]

Don't be so sure.

You enjoy being morrally encouraged by a Pakistani fan saying T20s don’t matter. Moral happiness

 

[Chokli]

people only watch it because its fast and more sixes and fours.

Even the Hong Kong Sixes have a good turn up, but that dosent mean its results are relevant.

test wins could be bragged, t20 wins arn't bragged(unless its a world t20)

Exactly, if nobody has time for Tests how can they possibly care about the result?

Yes but Hong Kong sixes isn't proper International Cricket.

 

[Shandarchowka]

Lol yeah, Kohli scoring a brilliant hundred but Australia killing India as usual

India should always be scared when Kohli scores a hundred in Australia. More often than not it will result in a moral victory

 

[Rana]

India should always be scared when Kohli scores a hundred in Australia. More often than not it will result in a moral victory

Lol #moralVictory should be a thing associated to India in this series

 

[Shandarchowka]

Lol #moralVictory should be a thing associated to India in this series

Indians and moral victories go a long way my friend

 

[the_outsider]

Indians and moral victories go a long way my friend

Lol time for another "blessing in disguise" for the mighty 7th ranked PCT.

I suppose it's not a coincidence that some PAK & BD fans are the only two who chest thump after being the bottom feeders of the cricketing world. )

 

[Plumb]

Its T20 and also Aus C team doesn't matter, does it??

 

[BreadPakoda]

Its a T20 fgs

 

[RainMan_]

I agree. India have accumulated quite a few moral series victories in last 3/4 years. They got the moral victory in their previous Australia tour where kohli sledged the Australians without any reason and that gave Indian fans mental satisfaction, they got the moral victory in their last SA tour and Eng tour as well.

I don't think any no 1 test team in the history of cricket have had as many moral victories as this Indian team have under their belt. I have to say that, they r really really unique in this regard.

 

[BDfanforever]

according to your bhaijaan India were the better team today and clearly outperformed Australia.

The DL system is strange and screwed India.

Nonetheless a blessing in disguise and a clear moral victory.

In T20 there is no moral victory, you either win or loose. I watched the first half before rain, and if not for rain Aus were on course for setting 200+ target.

Also this is only a T20 game. India is expected to make great use against this Aussie side without their top players not win moral victories.

 

[AAli98]

Latest icc moral victory rankings:

India
Pakistan (blessing in disguise losses)
Bangladesh

 

[letme alone]

Latest icc moral victory rankings:

India
Pakistan (blessing in disguise losses)
Bangladesh

so we are second after t20 first in ranking. pak is getting better..

 

[Rana]

Latest icc moral victory rankings:

India
Pakistan (blessing in disguise losses)
Bangladesh

This is Gold!

 

[CricVet]

Remember, this is a moral victory againt an AU "Z" bowling attack. Now go ahead and shiver imagining it against Starck and Co. It will be fascinating seeing more and more bouncy pitches through out the series. SA. gave good pratice to OZs before the start of the series on such srufaces.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Bhaijaan trolling everyone in one go.

 

[Hawkeye]

Bhaijaan trolling everyone in one go.

This. Everyone took the bait.

 

[Bilal7]

Yes, they were the better team as expected. India should give up on cricket and stick to badminton if they cannot finally win a test series in Australia.

Usman Khawaja is the only world-class test batsman in the Australian side. The second best batsman is a 35 averaging, 35 year old.

 

[saintgrace]

No. It doesnt matter. It is bilateral t20 match and it is just for entertainment purpose only. If it is T20W than i would say it has any weightage for for this tourney, it is just a t20 which i wont remember after 24 hours.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

I agree. India have accumulated quite a few moral series victories in last 3/4 years. They got the moral victory in their previous Australia tour where kohli sledged the Australians without any reason and that gave Indian fans mental satisfaction, they got the moral victory in their last SA tour and Eng tour as well.

I don't think any no 1 test team in the history of cricket have had as many moral victories as this Indian team have under their belt. I have to say that, they r really really unique in this regard.

I agree. We need real victories like 1-1 against Zimbabwe D at home to become a legit . Test playing nation

 

[Rana]

They lost a meaningless T20 with their full strength side.

 

[Rana]

I agree. We need real victories like 1-1 against Zimbabwe D at home to become a legit . Test playing nation

I mean constant real victories against Sri Lanka and West Indies at home are quite epic also.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Agree with all our Pakistani brothers about the moral victories abroad for India. It is shameful that the number 1 team can't win more away matches.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

I mean constant real victories against Sri Lanka and West Indies at home are quite epic also.

Are you talking about India here?

 

[Ami]

Sure...how about a few more victories before the season is out.

 

[mystical man]

Yes, they were the better team as expected. India should give up on cricket and stick to badminton if they cannot finally win a test series in Australia.

Usman Khawaja is the only world-class test batsman in the Australian side. The second best batsman is a 35 averaging, 35 year old.

Bas aap hi kami thi??Let us see what you do against the Kiwi's in the next 2 test matches

 

[GrandMaster]

K3s don't deserve another match. Khaleel and Krunal as a player and Kohli as a captain.

 

[Ab Fan]

Ye har match ke liye rona dhona jaruri hai kya?

 

[Hasan123]

Kohli should be batting at 3 in T20s. If KL isn't opening he shouldn't be playing. India poor fielding did cost them today.

But got to admit Kuldeep is a special player in the making.

 

[Ab Fan]

Rahul has been an unfortunate case. If he has to succeed in international arena, he can't wait for a position as an opener.

That slot is not vacant as long as till 2023 WC. Both Rohit and Dhawan will continue themselves till that point. Rahul will be 33 by then and after that, you have Shaw and other youngsters who will be 25-26 age at that time already eyeing for that spot.

If Rahul has to succeed in LOs in international arena, he will have to make place in the middle order only. In tests, this Australia series should be a make or break for him.

 

[saintgrace]

I would like all immoral victories over moral victories.

 

[Saurav]

Rahul has been an unfortunate case. If he has to succeed in international arena, he can't wait for a position as an opener.

That slot is not vacant as long as till 2023 WC. Both Rohit and Dhawan will continue themselves till that point. Rahul will be 33 by then and after that, you have Shaw and other youngsters who will be 25-26 age at that time already eyeing for that spot.

If Rahul has to succeed in LOs in international arena, he will have to make place in the middle order only. In tests, this Australia series should be a make or break for him.

Has been given very less chances at 4,and now Rayudu has cemented his place there

 

[Oligochaetes]

Has been given very less chances at 4,and now Rayudu has cemented his place there

Raydu doesn't play T20?
I think India needs one batting all rounder.. currently top 6 are pure batters and a wkt keeper. You need a 6th bowler too.

 

[Mamba Red]

Yep, awesome moral victory.

 

[Bilal7]

Another moral victory for India. They would have certainly won but...

 

[Shandarchowka]

It’s amazing how India snatched another moral victory today. At least we’ll never know how their batsmen would have performed so that’s a positive from today

 

[jnaveen1980]

In T20 don't care if it is moral or immoral. Even if we get blanked 0-5. Don't care. It is just not a suitable format for international cricket. League cricket is 100 times better than International T20.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Its a shame that India got robbed off a certain victory today due to rain. Also, in the last game, even with numerous mistakes in the shape of drop catches/field placements etc...India just lost by 4 runs. So the gulf between the two teams is very clear with India being a much superior team. Thanks to rain, we have to settle for 1-1 drawn series now

But after we win the main event (test series), no one will remember this T20s anyway.

 

[Rana]

Its a shame that India got robbed off a certain victory today due to rain. Also, in the last game, even with numerous mistakes in the shape of drop catches/field placements etc...India just lost by 4 runs. So the gulf between the two teams is very clear with India being a much superior team. Thanks to rain, we have to settle for 1-1 drawn series now

But after we win the main event (test series), no one will remember this T20s anyway.

Moral is high

 

[Invincible Gujjar]

India and moral victories love story continues another moral victory in their account.India 2 Australia 0.I hope India win many more moral victories on this tour and other upcoming tours.