Did Pakistan blunder by not playing Abbas, Hasan Ali, Yasir Shah against Aus, Eng and NZ?

[Savak]

I am seeing a lot of sports journalists taking the previous selection committee led by Mohd Wasim to task. To be fair Ramiz gave Babar the full authority to choose the squad of 15 and final playing 11 therefore blaming Mohd Wasim is pointless.

However a lot of journalists have now made U turns and are stating that the decision made by the selection committee to ignore the likes of Mohammad Abbas, Hasan Ali, Yasir Shah against the toughest oppositions Pakistan could face at home ie Australia, England and New Zealand in the end proved to be disastrous.

The strategy to ignore experience and past performances and instead opting for raw debutants ie Mohd Ali, Haris Rauf, Wasim Jr and average spinners ie Sajid Ali, Nauman has failed spectacularly.

Yes, the recent form of Hasan Ali, Yasir Shah, Mohd Abbas was not great but there is no substitute for experience and experience always has extremely high value on the biggest of stages against the toughest of oppositions and throwing inexperienced raw bowlers against such tough teams on docile pitches in the end turned out to be a disastrous strategy.

These reporters are also criticizing the PCB for ending Asad Shafiqs and Azhar Ali's career so abruptly without having groomed any ready replacements.

I just think it's easier to say all these things in hindsight, I remember full well how frustrated everyone was with Abbas lack of pace effectiveness in 2021, Hasan Ali's, Yasir Shahs, Asad Shafiqs, Azhar Ali's lack of performances.

To me, the biggest culprit is the captain Babar Azam, Ramiz gave this guy the full complete authority to select a team of his choosing and he squandered the opportunity with grotesque incompetency and to be fair Ramiz is also to blame for not realizing or admitting he had blundered giving this much power to an incompetent paindu with zero cricketing intellect and personality.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Abbas dodged a bullet, I’m sure he wouldn’t want to put his body through these dead pitches.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Any bowler who did not play the series should consider themselves lucky lol

 

[Suleiman]

Rule of thumb in Pak cricket is always “the players on the bench / not in squad would’ve won this series.”

 

[ElRaja]

new zealand were the first team to neuter abbas on moderately helpful wickets, he could not have done anything on these decks.

 

[gazza619]

I am can easily imagine Yasir, Hassan & Abbass having played the series and flopped and your thread would have been “Did Pakistan blunder by not playing Hamza, Waseem and Nauman against Aus, Eng and NZ?”

The players not picked are always the better players as they say.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Pakistan didnt groom replacements for Asad and Azhar?

So Fawad sitting out of the team so long a few years ago, Saud taking ages for debut Kamram Ghulam not being selected in final 11, Salluddin another.

Pakistan had batsmen waiting but persisted with two failures.

 

[moghul]

I am seeing a lot of sports journalists taking the previous selection committee led by Mohd Wasim to task. To be fair Ramiz gave Babar the full authority to choose the squad of 15 and final playing 11 therefore blaming Mohd Wasim is pointless.

However a lot of journalists have now made U turns and are stating that the decision made by the selection committee to ignore the likes of Mohammad Abbas, Hasan Ali, Yasir Shah against the toughest oppositions Pakistan could face at home ie Australia, England and New Zealand in the end proved to be disastrous.

The strategy to ignore experience and past performances and instead opting for raw debutants ie Mohd Ali, Haris Rauf, Wasim Jr and average spinners ie Sajid Ali, Nauman has failed spectacularly.

Yes, the recent form of Hasan Ali, Yasir Shah, Mohd Abbas was not great but there is no substitute for experience and experience always has extremely high value on the biggest of stages against the toughest of oppositions and throwing inexperienced raw bowlers against such tough teams on docile pitches in the end turned out to be a disastrous strategy.

These reporters are also criticizing the PCB for ending Asad Shafiqs and Azhar Ali's career so abruptly without having groomed any ready replacements.

I just think it's easier to say all these things in hindsight, I remember full well how frustrated everyone was with Abbas lack of pace effectiveness in 2021, Hasan Ali's, Yasir Shahs, Asad Shafiqs, Azhar Ali's lack of performances.

To me, the biggest culprit is the captain Babar Azam, Ramiz gave this guy the full complete authority to select a team of his choosing and he squandered the opportunity with grotesque incompetency and to be fair Ramiz is also to blame for not realizing or admitting he had blundered giving this much power to an incompetent paindu with zero cricketing intellect and personality.

Please explain me , on what merit you want these old players who were dropped after their prolonged failure to make a come back , have they shown any spectacular performance which made you think about them . Players like M Ali and Hamza were included in the team based upon their recent form in domestic cricket and if they failed to make an impact on roads prepared for them, wouldn't be nice to try some other youngsters who are performing in domestic cricket.

In the same FC matches where M ALi and Hamza were taking wickets , players like Hasan Ali failed to shown any impressive performance. We need to move on from these dead woods.

 

[Plumb]

For Abbas yes very surprised why he wasn't the pick. Even with his 125kph deliveries he had the experience to bowl better than current lot...(its ifs and buts situation )

Yasir I don't think he could have caused any threat to the Eng/NZ/Aus batters'

Hassan.... No idea what he is upto these days, looks like he is out of focus with cricket.

 

[Hawkeye]

Abbas

Yet another trundling machine that every team has figured out.

In fact he would be thanking PCB for not selecting him, as he would’ve been absolutely thrashed in these two series.

Yasir and Hasan would’ve made no difference.

 

[Major]

Yasir yes

 

[daytrader]

I think the main mistake we've been making is not playing another seamer. Two just don't cut it. We need a minimum of three irrespective of the pitch. So yes there's a case for both Abbas and Hasan. Abrar's performances however have sealed Yasir's fate

 

[TheSultan]

Hassan Ali is a divisive figure because when he’s bad, he’s very bad.

But it is ridiculous with all our troubles he hasn’t featured at all over these 4 tests.

I’m sorry Mir Hamza for all his “he looks good and is testing the batsmen” is a trundler. And wasim is a one trick pony and not a very good one at that

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

I am seeing a lot of sports journalists taking the previous selection committee led by Mohd Wasim to task. To be fair Ramiz gave Babar the full authority to choose the squad of 15 and final playing 11 therefore blaming Mohd Wasim is pointless.

However a lot of journalists have now made U turns and are stating that the decision made by the selection committee to ignore the likes of Mohammad Abbas, Hasan Ali, Yasir Shah against the toughest oppositions Pakistan could face at home ie Australia, England and New Zealand in the end proved to be disastrous.

The strategy to ignore experience and past performances and instead opting for raw debutants ie Mohd Ali, Haris Rauf, Wasim Jr and average spinners ie Sajid Ali, Nauman has failed spectacularly.

Yes, the recent form of Hasan Ali, Yasir Shah, Mohd Abbas was not great but there is no substitute for experience and experience always has extremely high value on the biggest of stages against the toughest of oppositions and throwing inexperienced raw bowlers against such tough teams on docile pitches in the end turned out to be a disastrous strategy.

These reporters are also criticizing the PCB for ending Asad Shafiqs and Azhar Ali's career so abruptly without having groomed any ready replacements.

I just think it's easier to say all these things in hindsight, I remember full well how frustrated everyone was with Abbas lack of pace effectiveness in 2021, Hasan Ali's, Yasir Shahs, Asad Shafiqs, Azhar Ali's lack of performances.

To me, the biggest culprit is the captain Babar Azam, Ramiz gave this guy the full complete authority to select a team of his choosing and he squandered the opportunity with grotesque incompetency and to be fair Ramiz is also to blame for not realizing or admitting he had blundered giving this much power to an incompetent paindu with zero cricketing intellect and personality.

Our people think its bowling that's letting us down but in reality its our Batting unit thats a big let down.. i have lost the count on number of collapses we have had in last 9 test matches we have played in 2022.
Aus Series
Karachi test our team got out for 120 plus score on a pitch that was flat as motorway
Then in Lahore we gave away position of strength. We were 248/3 and bowled out 268
In Final innings of Lahore test , we gave away 10 wickets on final day to lose series
Against England we could have won Pindi test. 413/4 to 579 all out , while chasing we needed to bat out final session with 5 wickets in hand. Again collapsed

Multan test we could have won. 142-2 to 204 all out. Another collapse.
290/5 needing just 66 runs and all out for 328 . Another collapse

Why are we blaming bowling?

 

[SpiritOf1903]

If debutants Rehan and Jack's, and average Sodhi can make a road look like a Bunsen burner which they might have been, Pakistan must have mediocre spinners.

I would imagine Shah to get soin on this pitch as a classical leggie. It's doing enough and he's won low scoring chasds in UAE. It might just be the bowlers more than conditions here

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Well it's now a DL t20 with bang average spinners and Jr getting carted. Uh oh